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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[2/1|Octaves]]. Equivalent to 2-limit JI, unless you want to temper some other JI intervals into octaves. Not much to talk about.
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[2/1|Octaves]]. Equivalent to 2-limit JI, unless you want to temper some other JI intervals into octaves. Not much to talk about.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Octaves. Extremely boring to use still, as octaves are hyperconsonant, so there is no inertia. You really have to get creative to make something cool in this. Ligeti pulled it off. But I won't care to try. F.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Octaves. Extremely boring to use still, as octaves are hyperconsonant, so there is no inertia. You really have to get creative to make something cool in this. Ligeti pulled it off. But I won't care to try. Rank: F.


== [[2edo]] ==
== [[2edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[sqrt(2)|Half octaves]] aka symmetric [[tritone]]s. The key to tritone substitution, although sometimes asymmetric tritones or even non-tritone intervals can also be used. Some notable approximations are [[7/5]], [[17/12]] and [[99/70]], the final one giving [[kalismic]]. 2''n''-edos within 1000 that do not [[support]] kalismic are probably bad in [[11-limit]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[sqrt(2)|Half octaves]] aka symmetric [[tritone]]s. The key to tritone substitution, although sometimes asymmetric tritones or even non-tritone intervals can also be used. Some notable approximations are [[7/5]], [[17/12]] and [[99/70]], the final one giving [[kalismic]]. 2''n''-edos within 1000 that do not [[support]] kalismic are probably bad in [[11-limit]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' Only ever good as subsets of other edos such as 12edo. Basically just [[compton]]. Anywhere else, they stand out, and not positively. D.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Only ever good as subsets of other edos such as 12edo. Basically just [[compton]]. Anywhere else, they stand out, and not positively. Rank: D.


== [[3edo]] ==
== [[3edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Zhenlige:''' 12edo major thirds. 2.5 subgroup augmented. The smallest EDO with decent 2.5 subgroup. Treating its steps as [[63/50]] gives [[landscape]]. 3''n''-edos within 1000 that do not [[support]] landscape are probably bad in [[7-limit]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' 12edo major thirds. 2.5 subgroup augmented. The smallest EDO with decent 2.5 subgroup. Treating its steps as [[63/50]] gives [[landscape]]. 3''n''-edos within 1000 that do not [[support]] landscape are probably bad in [[7-limit]].
: '''Eufalesio''': Only ever good as subsets of other edos such as 12edo. Basically just compton. Anywhere else, they stand out, and not positively. Though 3edo has a surprisingly accurate 5. C.  
: '''Eufalesio''': Only ever good as subsets of other edos such as 12edo. Basically just compton. Anywhere else, they stand out, and not positively. Though 3edo has a surprisingly accurate 5. Rank: C.


== [[4edo]] ==
== [[4edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[12edo]] minor thirds.
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[12edo]] minor thirds.
: '''Eufalesio''': Only ever good as subsets of other edos such as 12edo. Basically just [[compton]]. Anywhere else, they stand out, and not positively. D.  
: '''Eufalesio''': Only ever good as subsets of other edos such as 12edo. Basically just [[compton]]. Anywhere else, they stand out, and not positively. Rank: D.


== [[5edo]] ==
== [[5edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Equalized [[2L 3s|pentatonic]] scale. [[3-limit]] [[blackwood]]. Kinda familiar but everything is warped. To me as a Chinese, it sounds like out-of-tone traditional Chinese music. The smallest EDO that roughly represents [[3-limit]] or 2.3.7 subgroup.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Equalized [[2L 3s|pentatonic]] scale. [[3-limit]] [[blackwood]]. Kinda familiar but everything is warped. To me as a Chinese, it sounds like out-of-tone traditional Chinese music. The smallest EDO that roughly represents [[3-limit]] or 2.3.7 subgroup.
: '''Eufalesio:''' The first usable edo and the first edo to have any semblance of a perfect fifth. It features an extremely simplified 2.3.7, forming a [[consistent circle]] of [[8/7]] and 3/2. Due to its extremely coarse grain, it is extremely simple to use, as each step is large enough that no cluttering will ever occur. It is horrible in all other limits… well… except… 2.3.7.37, but who here cares about that – Also due to its extremely coarse grain, you can play anything, short of bashing keys and sitting on the keyboard, and it will sound good. This is because the edostep is so large that it doesn't cause audible cluttering… unless you're playing too low. The sonic profile of this edo is immediately recognizable. – It greatly benefits from non-harmonic timbres, or bell-like sounds, much like that of slendro. Its melodic capabilities are basically the same as that of all pentatonic scales, which is to say: great! It would be wrong to only call 5edo innacurate. A better descriptor would be: coarse. The coarsest, in fact. And due to the fact that it is so coarse, but it is still quite relatively accurate, it is a great edo. A.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' The first usable edo and the first edo to have any semblance of a perfect fifth. It features an extremely simplified za, forming a [[consistent circle]] of [[8/7]] and 3/2. Due to its extremely coarse grain, it is extremely simple to use, as each step is large enough that no cluttering will ever occur. It is horrible in all other limits… well… except… zathisa, but who here cares about that – Also due to its extremely coarse grain, you can play anything, short of bashing keys and sitting on the keyboard, and it will sound good. This is because the edostep is so large that it doesn't cause audible cluttering… unless you're playing too low. The sonic profile of this edo is immediately recognizable. – It greatly benefits from non-harmonic timbres, or bell-like sounds, much like that of slendro. Its melodic capabilities are basically the same as that of all pentatonic scales, which is to say: great! It would be wrong to only call 5edo innacurate. A better descriptor would be: coarse. The coarsest, in fact. And due to the fact that it is so coarse, but it is still quite relatively accurate, it is a great edo. Rank: A.


== [[6edo]] ==
== [[6edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[12edo]] whole tones. Incomplete 12edo. Also a heavily stretched [[didacus]] chain.
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[12edo]] whole tones. Incomplete 12edo. Also a heavily stretched [[didacus]] chain.
: '''Eufalesio''': Only ever good as subsets of other edos such as 12edo. Basically just [[compton]]. Anywhere else, they stand out, and not positively. D.  
: '''Eufalesio''': Only ever good as subsets of other edos such as 12edo. Basically just [[compton]]. Anywhere else, they stand out, and not positively. Rank: D.


== [[7edo]] ==
== [[7edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Zhenlige:''' Equalized [[5L 2s|diatonic]] scale. 3-limit [[whitewood]]. It sounds like out-of-tone [[3L 4s|neutral scale]] music. The smallest EDO that roughly represents [[5-limit]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' Equalized [[5L 2s|diatonic]] scale. 3-limit [[whitewood]]. It sounds like out-of-tone [[3L 4s|neutral scale]] music. The smallest EDO that roughly represents [[5-limit]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' The second usable edo. Its fifth is a tad flat, but usable, and it is also the first edo to feature a heptatonic scale, obviously... an equalized diatonic. The edostep is now small enough so that cluttering ''can'' occur, but still somewhat bashable. The sonic profile is also immediately recognizable. While the 5-limit is not there, the melodic coolness you can pull of with this coarse edo are nothing to scoff at. C, not for accuracy, but for ''cool''.
: '''Eufalesio:''' The second usable edo. Its fifth is a tad flat, but usable, and it is also the first edo to feature a heptatonic scale, obviously... an equalized diatonic. The edostep is now small enough so that cluttering ''can'' occur, but still somewhat bashable. The sonic profile is also immediately recognizable. While the 5-limit is not there, the melodic coolness you can pull of with this coarse edo are nothing to scoff at. Rank: C, not for accuracy, but for ''cool''.


== [[8edo]] ==
== [[8edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Zhenlige:''' Incomplete [[24edo]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' Incomplete [[24edo]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Having no diatonic fifths is useless to me.


== [[9edo]] ==
== [[9edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to timbre to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to timbre to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Zhenlige:''' A stack of [[7/6]]. A subset of [[ennealimmal]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' A stack of [[7/6]]. A subset of [[ennealimmal]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' Because this system does not support diatonic, I consider it useless. On its own. However, as a subset of other edos, it absolutely rules, as it is '''the''' basis for ennealimmal. A great deal of ''nineven'' edos are top-tier, because of this. Alone, F. As a subset, A.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Because this system does not support diatonic, I consider it useless. On its own. However, as a subset of other edos, it absolutely rules, as it is '''the''' basis for ennealimmal. A great deal of ''nineven'' edos are top-tier, because of this. Alone, rank: F. As a subset, rank: A.


== [[10edo]] ==
== [[10edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Zhenlige:''' Incomplete [[22edo]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' Incomplete [[22edo]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. Use 22edo instead. FF.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Having no diatonic fifths is useless to me. Use 22edo instead.


== [[12edo]] ==
== [[12edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' An excellent [[5-limit]] tuning. It is simple and stays out of the composer's way for two reasons: it works with an impressively wide variety of timbres, and it avoids [[wolf interval]]s better than any larger tuning. I believe this elegant simplicity is the reason for its popularity.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' An excellent [[5-limit]] tuning. It is simple and stays out of the composer's way for two reasons: it works with an impressively wide variety of timbres, and it avoids [[wolf interval]]s better than any larger tuning. I believe this elegant simplicity is the reason for its popularity.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Equalized [[5L 7s|chromatic]] scale. Both augmented and diminished. The smallest edo with decent 7-limit. The only reasonable tuning for the dominant temperament ignoring overall streching. A sharper fifth makes [[garibaldi]] better and a flatter fifth makes [[septimal meantone]] better. The boundary between meantone and [[schismatic]]. The smallest [[5L 2s|diatonic]] EDO. Efficient at its size. Very excellent [[3/1|3]] as well as [[17/1|17]] and [[19/1|19]] for its size, but inaccurate [[5/1|5]] and worse [[7/1|7]]. Suitable for symmetric scales. Easy to make accurate [[NEJI]]s. Its 2.3.17.19 subgroup deserves more exploration (something "xenharmonic" but not "microtonal"). Its thirds do not accurately approximate common JI intervals. A [[well temperament]] can make some of them do better.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Equalized [[5L 7s|chromatic]] scale. Both augmented and diminished. The smallest edo with decent 7-limit. The only reasonable tuning for the dominant temperament ignoring overall streching. A sharper fifth makes [[garibaldi]] better and a flatter fifth makes [[septimal meantone]] better. The boundary between meantone and [[schismatic]]. The smallest [[5L 2s|diatonic]] EDO. Efficient at its size. Very excellent [[3/1|3]] as well as [[17/1|17]] and [[19/1|19]] for its size, but inaccurate [[5/1|5]] and worse [[7/1|7]]. Suitable for symmetric scales. Easy to make accurate [[NEJI]]s. Its 2.3.17.19 subgroup deserves more exploration (something "xenharmonic" but not "microtonal"). Its thirds do not accurately approximate common JI intervals. A [[well temperament]] can make some of them do better.
: '''Eufalesio:''' It's easily one of the best edos. 12edo is many, many things all at once, and I would say that its place in mainstream music is well earned. It's the first edo that can deal with the 5-limit at all, and it also has an incredibly accurate fifth for its size, making it the only temperament that is both meantone and pythagorean at the same time… Super practical, and very easy to conceptualize. S.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' It's easily one of the best edos. 12edo is many, many things all at once, and I would say that its place in mainstream music is well earned. It's the first edo that can deal with the ya at all, and it also has an incredibly accurate fifth for its size, making it the only temperament that is both meantone and pythagorean at the same time… Super practical, and very easy to conceptualize. Rank: S.


== [[13edo]] ==
== [[13edo]] ==
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: '''Fumica:''' Every other step of 26edo. Like 11edo, quintal harmony can be used. Unlike 11edo, the intonation sucks. D-tier.
: '''Fumica:''' Every other step of 26edo. Like 11edo, quintal harmony can be used. Unlike 11edo, the intonation sucks. D-tier.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Having no diatonic fifths is useless to me.


== [[14edo]] ==
== [[14edo]] ==
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: '''Fumica:''' I heard it too that this was the "most dissonant edo". The intonation surely has a lot of spice. [[Support]]s [[squares]] and [[godzilla]], making it important in theory. Perhaps works better as an interval category scheme than as sound to be listened to. B-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' I heard it too that this was the "most dissonant edo". The intonation surely has a lot of spice. [[Support]]s [[squares]] and [[godzilla]], making it important in theory. Perhaps works better as an interval category scheme than as sound to be listened to. B-tier.  
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Having no diatonic fifths is useless to me.


== [[15edo]] ==
== [[15edo]] ==
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: '''Vector:''' Definitive proof that a fifth doesn't need to be a 3/2. (TBA)
: '''Vector:''' Definitive proof that a fifth doesn't need to be a 3/2. (TBA)
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Eufalesio:''' Supposedly, it would be one of the best antidiatonic systems, next to 9edo, but if an edo does not have diatonic, I consider it useless. Unlike 9edo which forms the basis for ennealimmal, I don't know of any good temperaments with a 1/16 octave period. 2^n edos suck in general. D.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Supposedly, it would be one of the best antidiatonic systems, next to 9edo, but if an edo does not have diatonic, I consider it useless. Unlike 9edo which forms the basis for ennealimmal, I don't know of any good temperaments with a 1/16 octave period. 2^n edos suck in general. Rank: D.


== [[17edo]] ==
== [[17edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Zhenlige:''' A circle of fifths in [[34edo]]. Interesting sharp fifths. The smallest [[5L 2s|diatonic]] EDO with neutral intervals. The boundary between neogothic and superpyth. Like [[12edo]], its diatonic thirds do not approximate any simple ratios well, and a [[well temperament]] may help. Its [[13/1|13]] is good, and [[11/1|11]] and [[7/1|7]] have a similar precision to 12edo's [[5/1|5]]. It benefits from compression.
: '''Zhenlige:''' A circle of fifths in [[34edo]]. Interesting sharp fifths. The smallest [[5L 2s|diatonic]] EDO with neutral intervals. The boundary between neogothic and superpyth. Like [[12edo]], its diatonic thirds do not approximate any simple ratios well, and a [[well temperament]] may help. Its [[13/1|13]] is good, and [[11/1|11]] and [[7/1|7]] have a similar precision to 12edo's [[5/1|5]]. It benefits from compression.
: '''Eufalesio''': Despite being the next edo with a usable fifth, the fact that it tempers out the interval whose edostep best approximates it is the ultimate irony. I like the slightly sharp fifths and neo-gothic feel, but the lack of 5-limit is a hole I can't easily live without, and no matter how good it is on other limits (and it is ''great''), the lack of 5 is sad. C+.  
: '''Eufalesio''': Despite being the next edo with a usable fifth, the fact that it tempers out the interval whose edostep best approximates it is the ultimate irony. I like the slightly sharp fifths and neo-gothic feel, but the lack of ya is a hole I can't easily live without, and no matter how good it is on other limits (and it is ''great''), the lack of 5 is sad. Rank: C+.


== [[18edo]] ==
== [[18edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Offers exciting melodic shapes, but requires careful attention to [[timbre]] to prevent it sounding "out of tune".
: '''Zhenlige:''' Incomplete [[36edo]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' Incomplete [[36edo]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Having no diatonic fifths is useless to me.


== [[19edo]] ==
== [[19edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' The smallest equal tuning that approximates the entire [[43-limit]]. Its melodic similarity to 12edo makes it easier to find your bearings, but harder to break out of that diatonic comfort zone and explore all those intricate high limit harmonies it has to offer.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' The smallest equal tuning that approximates the entire [[43-limit]]. Its melodic similarity to 12edo makes it easier to find your bearings, but harder to break out of that diatonic comfort zone and explore all those intricate high limit harmonies it has to offer.
: '''Zhenlige:''' A stack of [[5/3]]. Very different tradeoffs from [[12edo]]. Usable but imperfect for many temperaments. [[Meantone]] or [[magic]], but with a too flat fifth. Strangely large minor 2nds off from [[16/15]] even more than 12edo's. A compressed [[Carlos Beta]] scale. For meantone [[31edo]] is more preferable, and for magic [[41edo]]. The lower bound of a good fifth. It benefits from stretching. Good as a subset of [[enneadecal]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' A stack of [[5/3]]. Very different tradeoffs from [[12edo]]. Usable but imperfect for many temperaments. [[Meantone]] or [[magic]], but with a too flat fifth. Strangely large minor 2nds off from [[16/15]] even more than 12edo's. A compressed [[Carlos Beta]] scale. For meantone [[31edo]] is more preferable, and for magic [[41edo]]. The lower bound of a good fifth. It benefits from stretching. Good as a subset of [[enneadecal]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' The next most easily accessible edo, and one that offers a change in perspective. It is meantone just like 12edo, but it has a completely different sonic profile, due to the flatter 5-limit, which I find very enjoyable. The near just minor thirds are definitely something to remark, though not as discernible as it is in its supersets. Great stuff! A
: '''Eufalesio:''' The next most easily accessible edo, and one that offers a change in perspective. It is meantone just like 12edo, but it has a completely different sonic profile, due to the flatter ya, which I find very enjoyable. The near just minor thirds are definitely something to remark, though not as discernible as it is in its supersets. Great stuff! Rank: A


== [[20edo]] ==
== [[20edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' It has a lot of [[consonant]] intervals available, but they're mostly all very different to anything in 12edo. This makes it intimidating at first, but rewards exploration, ideal for composers looking for a wild world of new microtonal colours, without sounding as "sour" as some smaller EDOs do.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' It has a lot of [[consonant]] intervals available, but they're mostly all very different to anything in 12edo. This makes it intimidating at first, but rewards exploration, ideal for composers looking for a wild world of new microtonal colours, without sounding as "sour" as some smaller EDOs do.
: '''Zhenlige:''' The fact that [[41edo]] is good indicates that 20- and [[21edo]] are probably bad. Does anyone really think it is OK for a chord to contain a lot of in[[consistent]] mappings involving 3?
: '''Zhenlige:''' The fact that [[41edo]] is good indicates that 20- and [[21edo]] are probably bad. Does anyone really think it is OK for a chord to contain a lot of in[[consistent]] mappings involving 3?
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Having no diatonic fifths is useless to me.


== [[21edo]] ==
== [[21edo]] ==
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: '''Fumica:''' 14edo but worse. F-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' 14edo but worse. F-tier.  
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' If you like the melodic shapes of 7edo, but want some sweeter harmonies and smaller step sizes to mix them with, 21edo is ideal for that.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' If you like the melodic shapes of 7edo, but want some sweeter harmonies and smaller step sizes to mix them with, 21edo is ideal for that.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF


== [[22edo]] ==
== [[22edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' It is the first EDO bigger than 12 which sounds equally as "in-tune" as 12, in my opinion.  Though it does have some [[wolf interval]]s which can startle new composers; with experience one learns how to approach those. Its [[superpyth]] and [[pajara]] scales offer a familiar-but-not-too-familiar melodic structure where prior 12edo training is useful, but where exploration beyond it is rewarded with gorgeous new colours. In this sense, it offers the strengths of both 19 and 20 without the drawbacks of either.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' It is the first EDO bigger than 12 which sounds equally as "in-tune" as 12, in my opinion.  Though it does have some [[wolf interval]]s which can startle new composers; with experience one learns how to approach those. Its [[superpyth]] and [[pajara]] scales offer a familiar-but-not-too-familiar melodic structure where prior 12edo training is useful, but where exploration beyond it is rewarded with gorgeous new colours. In this sense, it offers the strengths of both 19 and 20 without the drawbacks of either.
: '''Zhenlige:''' The smallest EDO with decent [[11-limit]] and the smallest non-meantone EDO with decent [[5-limit]]. Superpyth and porcupine. The only reasonable superpyth EDO. The upper bound of a good fifth. The best you can get with [[50/49]] tempered out.
: '''Zhenlige:''' The smallest EDO with decent [[11-limit]] and the smallest non-meantone EDO with decent [[5-limit]]. Superpyth and porcupine. The only reasonable superpyth EDO. The upper bound of a good fifth. The best you can get with [[50/49]] tempered out.
: '''Eufalesio:''' While the change in perspective that 19edo offers is mixed with familiarity, 22edo is an entirely different beast. It features a very exaggerated non-meantone 5-limit, making it the ultimate porcupine, which is not a temperament known for its accuracy, but it's cool! It also supports magic, featuring a flatter 5, which I enjoy, though the incredibly sharp 6/5 is a tad excessive. – The 7-limit structure inside the diatonic scale is something very sui generis, though it's 11-limit is kinda meh, but what can I say, it's the first edo to be [[consistent]] in the [[11-odd-limit]]! C, not for accuracy, but for ''cool''.
: '''Eufalesio:''' While the change in perspective that 19edo offers is mixed with familiarity, 22edo is an entirely different beast. It features a very exaggerated non-meantone ya, making it the ultimate porcupine, which is not a temperament known for its accuracy, but it's cool! It also supports magic, featuring a flatter 5, which I enjoy, though the incredibly sharp 6/5 is a tad excessive. – The yaza structure inside the diatonic scale is something very sui generis, though it's yazala is kinda meh, but what can I say, it's the first edo to be [[consistent]] in the [[11-odd-limit]]! Rank: C, not for accuracy, but for ''cool''.


== [[23edo]] ==
== [[23edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' A great EDO to begin experimenting with [[octave stretching]] and squishing. With pure octaves, it sounds out of tune, but stretch it by about 10 [[cents]], and you get access to the full array of pretty no-13s [[59-limit]] harmonies. ''Compress'' it by about 10 cents, and you instead get access to the full array of no-19s [[37-limit]] harmonies. Both tunings punch far above their weight by having lots of consonances in only 23 notes. Experiment with both the stretched and squished versions of 23edo, to get a feeling for how stretching or squishing a scale can shift its underlying harmonies dramatically while preserving its melodic shape.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' A great EDO to begin experimenting with [[octave stretching]] and squishing. With pure octaves, it sounds out of tune, but stretch it by about 10 [[cents]], and you get access to the full array of pretty no-13s [[59-limit]] harmonies. ''Compress'' it by about 10 cents, and you instead get access to the full array of no-19s [[37-limit]] harmonies. Both tunings punch far above their weight by having lots of consonances in only 23 notes. Experiment with both the stretched and squished versions of 23edo, to get a feeling for how stretching or squishing a scale can shift its underlying harmonies dramatically while preserving its melodic shape.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Incomplete [[46edo]]. The largest EDO without a [[5L 2s|diatonic]], [[5edo|blackwood]] or [[7edo|whitewood]] fifth.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Incomplete [[46edo]]. The largest EDO without a [[5L 2s|diatonic]], [[5edo|blackwood]] or [[7edo|whitewood]] fifth.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Having no diatonic fifths is useless to me.


== [[24edo]] ==
== [[24edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Along with [[36edo]], it is one of the two possible ways to extend 12edo while preserving equal spacing, and keeping the number of notes somewhat manageable. 36edo is ideal if you want to add intervals involving the 7th harmonic into 12edo, while 24edo is ideal if you want to add intervals involving the 11th harmonic. Comparing and contrasting 24edo and 36edo can help you get a feel for the difference between the "vibe" of the 11th harmonic, and the "vibe" of the 7th harmonic. I recommend dipping your toes into each of the two. — Try using familar 12edo intervals in lower registers of your instrument(s)/mix, while mixing in some of the strange new 24edo intervals in the higher registers. Thus will mimic the shape of the [[harmonic series]] and sound nice and glittery.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Along with [[36edo]], it is one of the two possible ways to extend 12edo while preserving equal spacing, and keeping the number of notes somewhat manageable. 36edo is ideal if you want to add intervals involving the 7th harmonic into 12edo, while 24edo is ideal if you want to add intervals involving the 11th harmonic. Comparing and contrasting 24edo and 36edo can help you get a feel for the difference between the "vibe" of the 11th harmonic, and the "vibe" of the 7th harmonic. I recommend dipping your toes into each of the two. — Try using familar 12edo intervals in lower registers of your instrument(s)/mix, while mixing in some of the strange new 24edo intervals in the higher registers. Thus will mimic the shape of the [[harmonic series]] and sound nice and glittery.
: '''Zhenlige:''' What some non-microtonalists think microtonality is. 12edo with neutrals. Good for prime [[11/1|11]]. Accurate in subgroup 2.3.11.17.19.
: '''Zhenlige:''' What some non-microtonalists think microtonality is. 12edo with neutrals. Good for prime [[11/1|11]]. Accurate in subgroup 2.3.11.17.19.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Entry-level xenharmonic edo. A huge improvement to the 2.3.5.11, but nothing much more to remark. Probably the most common xenharmonic edo among non xen spaces, and for good reason. We've all used it. It's trivial to build it. – Still, some ensembles fail at playing quartertones accurately (singers are the worst, some can even fail to sing 12edo accurately, which is a feat…) C+.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Entry-level xenharmonic edo. A huge improvement to the yala, but nothing much more to remark. Probably the most common xenharmonic edo among non xen spaces, and for good reason. We've all used it. It's trivial to build it. – Still, some ensembles fail at playing quartertones accurately (singers are the worst, some can even fail to sing 12edo accurately, which is a feat…) Rank: C+.


== [[25edo]] ==
== [[25edo]] ==
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: '''Deja Igliashon:''' 25edo might be "the one that got away" for me. It bears a lot of similarities to [[23edo]] by virtue of being half the notes of a large very-accurate ET (50edo), having half of the nice 2nds, 3rds, 6ths, and 7ths, but not the nice 4ths and 5ths. Lots of nice harmony to be had, but no 5-limit triads (or at least, none that are very nice). I've thought about having a [[guitar]] made in 25edo multiple times but always ended up going with something else for some reason. Anyway, it's really really good for 8:9:10:14:17:19:23:25 chords, as well as 11:12:13:15:21:27 chords, but you can't put the two together unless you are in 50edo.
: '''Deja Igliashon:''' 25edo might be "the one that got away" for me. It bears a lot of similarities to [[23edo]] by virtue of being half the notes of a large very-accurate ET (50edo), having half of the nice 2nds, 3rds, 6ths, and 7ths, but not the nice 4ths and 5ths. Lots of nice harmony to be had, but no 5-limit triads (or at least, none that are very nice). I've thought about having a [[guitar]] made in 25edo multiple times but always ended up going with something else for some reason. Anyway, it's really really good for 8:9:10:14:17:19:23:25 chords, as well as 11:12:13:15:21:27 chords, but you can't put the two together unless you are in 50edo.
: '''Fumica:''' Potentially useful as every other step of 50edo. D-tier.
: '''Fumica:''' Potentially useful as every other step of 50edo. D-tier.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Having no diatonic fifths is useless to me.


== [[26edo]] ==
== [[26edo]] ==
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: '''Fumica:''' Just as [[19edo]] is the point separating meantone and flattone, this is the point separating flattone and [[flattertone|a meantone extension that implies an even flatter fifth]]. Therefore it should share all the advantages of 12edo and 19edo, at least theoretically, that is if not for its poor intonation in the [[5-limit]]. C-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' Just as [[19edo]] is the point separating meantone and flattone, this is the point separating flattone and [[flattertone|a meantone extension that implies an even flatter fifth]]. Therefore it should share all the advantages of 12edo and 19edo, at least theoretically, that is if not for its poor intonation in the [[5-limit]]. C-tier.  
: '''Zhenlige:''' The fact that [[53edo]] is good indicates that 26- and [[27edo]] are probably bad. A stack of [[7/4]]. Good for 2.7.11 subgroup. Other intervals suck. Since it is relatively small, [[consistency]] does not implies high accuracy. [[Meantone]] in [[5-limit]] but tuned terribly. Incomplete [[130edo]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' The fact that [[53edo]] is good indicates that 26- and [[27edo]] are probably bad. A stack of [[7/4]]. Good for 2.7.11 subgroup. Other intervals suck. Since it is relatively small, [[consistency]] does not implies high accuracy. [[Meantone]] in [[5-limit]] but tuned terribly. Incomplete [[130edo]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' Interesting, but unjustifiably inaccurate for me. D.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Interesting, but unjustifiably inaccurate for me. Rank: D.


== [[27edo]] ==
== [[27edo]] ==
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: '''Fumica:''' Potentially useful as every other step of [[56edo]]. D-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' Potentially useful as every other step of [[56edo]]. D-tier.  
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[Whitewood]] [[diminished (temperament)|diminished]]. Kinda opposite from [[15edo]]. The best you can get with whitewood.
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[Whitewood]] [[diminished (temperament)|diminished]]. Kinda opposite from [[15edo]]. The best you can get with whitewood.
: '''Eufalesio:''' The hyper-accurate 5/4 alone makes it useless. FF
: '''Eufalesio:''' The hyper-accurate 5/4 alone and nothing else makes it useless. Rank: FF


== [[29edo]] ==
== [[29edo]] ==
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: '''Fumica:''' Potentially useful as every other step of [[60edo]]. D-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' Potentially useful as every other step of [[60edo]]. D-tier.  
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' The most simple [[dual-fifth]] edo, not as "in-tune" as bigger ones, but a good introduction to the dual-fifth concept. It's kind of underrated because, while it doesn't have the same precise, luminous [[JI]] chords as 29 or 31, its [[wolf interval]]s are fewer and have less bite than 29 or 31 - so 30edo is actually relatively easy to noodle around in without hitting any ''really sour'' notes. It's not a good system for the JI-centric, regular temperament-centric approach that works for other big edos - but if you meet 30edo ''on its own terms'', it's actually surprisingly approachable, and you can get a surprising amount of sweetness out of it. It kind of sounds like if JI was muffled underwater, if that makes sense? Everything's a little murky, but in a 'smooth' way - not necessarily unpleasant. [[Bryan Deister]] has lots of good [[Lumatone]] pieces in 30edo. Don't get me wrong, it's not ''as'' useful as 29 or 31, but it's much more useful than it's made out to be.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' The most simple [[dual-fifth]] edo, not as "in-tune" as bigger ones, but a good introduction to the dual-fifth concept. It's kind of underrated because, while it doesn't have the same precise, luminous [[JI]] chords as 29 or 31, its [[wolf interval]]s are fewer and have less bite than 29 or 31 - so 30edo is actually relatively easy to noodle around in without hitting any ''really sour'' notes. It's not a good system for the JI-centric, regular temperament-centric approach that works for other big edos - but if you meet 30edo ''on its own terms'', it's actually surprisingly approachable, and you can get a surprising amount of sweetness out of it. It kind of sounds like if JI was muffled underwater, if that makes sense? Everything's a little murky, but in a 'smooth' way - not necessarily unpleasant. [[Bryan Deister]] has lots of good [[Lumatone]] pieces in 30edo. Don't get me wrong, it's not ''as'' useful as 29 or 31, but it's much more useful than it's made out to be.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.


== [[31edo]] ==
== [[31edo]] ==
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: '''Fumica:''' This is a great edo. Too great it's a little unfun to work with. It has a tuning profile close to what I consider the [[optimal tuning]] of meantone, and [[migration]], the [[meantone]] [[extension]] that maps harmonic 11 to the semi-augmented fourth, works almost perfectly in this system. [[Octave stretch]] gives better intonation. A-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' This is a great edo. Too great it's a little unfun to work with. It has a tuning profile close to what I consider the [[optimal tuning]] of meantone, and [[migration]], the [[meantone]] [[extension]] that maps harmonic 11 to the semi-augmented fourth, works almost perfectly in this system. [[Octave stretch]] gives better intonation. A-tier.  
: '''Zhenlige:''' Ideal for pure-octave meantone, combining lots of [[11-limit]] extensions in a single tuning. The meantone flat fifth makes its neutral thirds close to [[11/9]] (tho there is the JI subgroup problem since [[11/1|11]] and [[9/1|9]] themselves are not so good). Also [[valentine]] and [[miracle]]. IMO the best meantone EDO. Nearly the best meantone can give for high limit. For other temperaments its flat fifth may be a drawback, making 9 bad.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Ideal for pure-octave meantone, combining lots of [[11-limit]] extensions in a single tuning. The meantone flat fifth makes its neutral thirds close to [[11/9]] (tho there is the JI subgroup problem since [[11/1|11]] and [[9/1|9]] themselves are not so good). Also [[valentine]] and [[miracle]]. IMO the best meantone EDO. Nearly the best meantone can give for high limit. For other temperaments its flat fifth may be a drawback, making 9 bad.
: '''Eufalesio:''' The best meantone edo. Manageable grain, incredible 11-limit. You can't get more juice out of meantone without diminishing returns. From this point on, it becomes hard to justify using a finer meantone gamut. SSS.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' The best meantone edo. Manageable grain, incredible 11-limit. You can't get more juice out of meantone without diminishing returns. From this point on, it becomes hard to justify using a finer meantone gamut. Rank: SSS.


== [[32edo]] ==
== [[32edo]] ==
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: '''Yourmusic Productions:''' Like all pure powers of 2, unusually bad for it's size.
: '''Yourmusic Productions:''' Like all pure powers of 2, unusually bad for it's size.
: '''Fumica:''' 27edo but worse. F-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' 27edo but worse. F-tier.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.


== [[33edo]] ==
== [[33edo]] ==
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: '''Fumica:''' This is to 17edo what [[24edo]] is to [[12edo]]. While 17edo is often good enough, this offers some more sophisticated solutions such as [[tetracot]]. Even the [[harmonic]]s [[7/1|7]] and [[11/1|11]], which come from 17edo and are commonly cited as relatively poor in this edo, are convincing enough to me, since when I worked with [[modus]] I never had a problem with the intonation at all, unlike with [[porcupine]]. The sound is better than the structure. B-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' This is to 17edo what [[24edo]] is to [[12edo]]. While 17edo is often good enough, this offers some more sophisticated solutions such as [[tetracot]]. Even the [[harmonic]]s [[7/1|7]] and [[11/1|11]], which come from 17edo and are commonly cited as relatively poor in this edo, are convincing enough to me, since when I worked with [[modus]] I never had a problem with the intonation at all, unlike with [[porcupine]]. The sound is better than the structure. B-tier.  
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[17edo]] with [[5/1|5]] and [[17/1|17]] added, making a good 2.3.5.13.17 system. A slightly stretched [[Carlos Gamma]] scale.
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[17edo]] with [[5/1|5]] and [[17/1|17]] added, making a good 2.3.5.13.17 system. A slightly stretched [[Carlos Gamma]] scale.
: '''Eufalesio:''' 17edo, but good. By splitting the edo in two, we get a great 5-limit, the best so far. Fails at 7 and 11, which is sad, but at least is a very good [[2.3.5.13 subgroup|2.3.5.13]], as it also [[support]]s [[kleismic]]. And [[diaschismic]]. I've used this to retune some classical pieces. It's good for its grain, but it's not the best. B+.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' 17edo, but good. By splitting the edo in two, we get a great ya, the best so far. Fails at 7 and 11, which is sad, but at least is a very good [[yatha]], as it also [[support]]s [[kleismic]]. And [[diaschismic]]. I've used this to retune some classical pieces. It's good for its grain, but it's not the best. Rank: B+.  


== [[35edo]] ==
== [[35edo]] ==
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: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' A very good [[dual-fifth]] edo.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' A very good [[dual-fifth]] edo.
: '''Zhenlige:''' The largest non-[[5L 2s|diatonic]] EDO.
: '''Zhenlige:''' The largest non-[[5L 2s|diatonic]] EDO.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.


== [[36edo]] ==
== [[36edo]] ==
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== [[40edo]] ==
== [[40edo]] ==
: '''Bozu:''' [[Amphipent]] [[diminished (temperament)|diminished]]. Can't really find a good use for this one.
: '''Bozu:''' [[Amphipent]] [[diminished (temperament)|diminished]]. Can't really find a good use for this one.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Having no diatonic fifths is useless to me.


== [[41edo]] ==
== [[41edo]] ==
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: '''Fumica:''' The first of the five essential comma-level edos, and the first edo to achieve [[9-odd-limit]] [[distinction]] and [[consistency]]. This is most significant for providing three flavors for each [[chromatic]] category: classical, Pythagorean, and septimal. In this case it is a [[schismic]] and [[garischismic]] system, so that all three kinds are separated by the same [[comma]] step and can be found on a stack of fifths. The comma step is somewhat larger than just, making the differences more pronounced, which is part of why I think this edo is pretty deep – the step isn't only a comma, but many things at once, including but not limited to the [[septimal diesis|septimal dieses]], as well as the chroma of the [[archaeotonic]] scale, the scale of [[Tetracot]][7]. The best [[subgroup]] of this edo is, actually, 2.3.5.7.11.19. [[Prime]] [[13/1|13]] is certainly plausible, but prime [[19/1|19]] fits way better. There's a unique uniform tuning for the [[harmonic segment]] 18::22, a fact related to the vanish of [[S-expression|s10]] = [[100/99]] and [[S-expression|s9/s11]] = [[243/242]]. The beauty of this edo goes even beyond the structure, but also to the intonation: it has a very slightly sharp 3 and a more noticeably flat 5, making a flat, more stable 15; that is ideal for my music. Finally, it's an ideal tuning for the [[magic]] temperament. I can't compliment it enough. S-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' The first of the five essential comma-level edos, and the first edo to achieve [[9-odd-limit]] [[distinction]] and [[consistency]]. This is most significant for providing three flavors for each [[chromatic]] category: classical, Pythagorean, and septimal. In this case it is a [[schismic]] and [[garischismic]] system, so that all three kinds are separated by the same [[comma]] step and can be found on a stack of fifths. The comma step is somewhat larger than just, making the differences more pronounced, which is part of why I think this edo is pretty deep – the step isn't only a comma, but many things at once, including but not limited to the [[septimal diesis|septimal dieses]], as well as the chroma of the [[archaeotonic]] scale, the scale of [[Tetracot]][7]. The best [[subgroup]] of this edo is, actually, 2.3.5.7.11.19. [[Prime]] [[13/1|13]] is certainly plausible, but prime [[19/1|19]] fits way better. There's a unique uniform tuning for the [[harmonic segment]] 18::22, a fact related to the vanish of [[S-expression|s10]] = [[100/99]] and [[S-expression|s9/s11]] = [[243/242]]. The beauty of this edo goes even beyond the structure, but also to the intonation: it has a very slightly sharp 3 and a more noticeably flat 5, making a flat, more stable 15; that is ideal for my music. Finally, it's an ideal tuning for the [[magic]] temperament. I can't compliment it enough. S-tier.  
: '''Zhenlige:''' Prime octave and highly composite fifth, opposite from [[12edo]], thus good for fifth-dividing temperaments. Containing [[Bohlen-Pierce scale]]. Good for magic. The [[Kite guitar]] shows its elegance, with many simple intervals evenly spaced. Also [[garibaldi]] and [[miracle]]. The largest problem is its relatively inaccurate [[5/1|5]]. From here on, most EDOs with good [[13-limit]] [[support]] [[akea]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' Prime octave and highly composite fifth, opposite from [[12edo]], thus good for fifth-dividing temperaments. Containing [[Bohlen-Pierce scale]]. Good for magic. The [[Kite guitar]] shows its elegance, with many simple intervals evenly spaced. Also [[garibaldi]] and [[miracle]]. The largest problem is its relatively inaccurate [[5/1|5]]. From here on, most EDOs with good [[13-limit]] [[support]] [[akea]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' The first usable [[schismic]] edo ([[29edo]] and [[17edo]] don't count because their [[5/4]]'s are wack). Still manageable grain, hyperaccurate fifths and the non-meantoneness is definitely welcome. It is the first edo to introduce a comma accidental framework, which in my opinion is one of the best frameworks for composition. The 11-limit is marvelous (pun intended) but the [[13-limit]] is… lacking. However, since it tempers so many things together, it is extremely useful. Still, even if the 5-limit is not that accurate, since the innacuracy is flatwards, I think it's much more enjoyable, as I like wide minor thirds. Also supports Bohlen Pierce, which is also incredibly cool. AC, not for air conditioner, but for ''accuracy'' and ''cool''.
: '''Eufalesio:''' The first usable [[schismic]] edo ([[29edo]] and [[17edo]] don't count because their [[5/4]]'s are wack). Still manageable grain, hyperaccurate fifths and the non-meantoneness is definitely welcome. It is the first edo to introduce a comma accidental framework, which in my opinion is one of the best frameworks for composition. The yazala is marvelous (pun intended) but the [[yazalatha]] is... lacking. However, since it tempers so many things together, it is extremely useful. Still, even if the ya is not that accurate, since the innacuracy is flatwards, I think it's much more enjoyable, as I like wide minor thirds. Also supports Bohlen Pierce, which is also incredibly cool. Rank: AC, not for air conditioner, but for ''accuracy'' and ''cool''.


== [[42edo]] ==
== [[42edo]] ==
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: '''Nicolai:''' You either get [[7edo|7EDO]] or [[superpyth]], there is no middle.
: '''Nicolai:''' You either get [[7edo|7EDO]] or [[superpyth]], there is no middle.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Incomplete [[84edo]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' Incomplete [[84edo]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.


== [[43edo]] ==
== [[43edo]] ==
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: '''Bozu:''' [[Amphipent]] [[augmented (temperament)|augmented]].
: '''Bozu:''' [[Amphipent]] [[augmented (temperament)|augmented]].
: '''Fumica:''' The only legit edo tuning for [[flattone]]. Otherwise it has little utility. It has this weird structure of [[9/8]]~[[10/9]]~[[11/10]] all [[tempering together|tempered together]] as a characteristic of flattone, but meanwhile the [[septimal comma]] is tuned to two steps, which feels a bit ugly. D-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' The only legit edo tuning for [[flattone]]. Otherwise it has little utility. It has this weird structure of [[9/8]]~[[10/9]]~[[11/10]] all [[tempering together|tempered together]] as a characteristic of flattone, but meanwhile the [[septimal comma]] is tuned to two steps, which feels a bit ugly. D-tier.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.


== [[46edo]] ==
== [[46edo]] ==
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: '''Nicolai:''' You either get [[7edo|7EDO]] or [[superpyth]], but there's a nice third.
: '''Nicolai:''' You either get [[7edo|7EDO]] or [[superpyth]], but there's a nice third.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Incomplete [[94edo]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' Incomplete [[94edo]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' Useless. FF.


== [[48edo]] ==
== [[48edo]] ==
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: '''Fumica:''' Close to [[2/7-comma meantone]] so it has a niche. Has the same problem as [[45edo]], though less severe. C-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' Close to [[2/7-comma meantone]] so it has a niche. Has the same problem as [[45edo]], though less severe. C-tier.  
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[Meantone]] with a flatter fifth than [[31edo]], but I usually use [[golden meantone]] (with slight octave stretching) for this range.
: '''Zhenlige:''' [[Meantone]] with a flatter fifth than [[31edo]], but I usually use [[golden meantone]] (with slight octave stretching) for this range.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Still a good meantone edo, and though it is a much better approximant for golden meantone, I prefer using golden meantone as a rank-2, and not buying the entire gamut. The [[19-limit]] usability is very surprising, still. However, having all those new intervals inside a meantone edo feels in my opinion strangely unnatural, as we're stretching the meantone [[chain of fifths|chain-of-fifths]] beyond what's supposed to. The meantone chain of fifths already hits its apex with 31edo. – For finer edos in this range, meantone ceases to do it for me, but I respect this one. C-.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Still a good meantone edo, and though it is a much better approximant for golden meantone, I prefer using golden meantone as a rank-2, and not buying the entire gamut. The [[19-limit]] usability is very surprising, still. However, having all those new intervals inside a meantone edo feels in my opinion strangely unnatural, as we're stretching the meantone [[chain of fifths|chain-of-fifths]] beyond what's supposed to. The meantone chain of fifths already hits its apex with 31edo. – For finer edos in this range, meantone ceases to do it for me, but I respect this one. Rank: C-.


== [[51edo]] ==
== [[51edo]] ==
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: '''Fumica:''' The third essential comma-level edo. This one is kinda overrated. The best thing about it is the distinction of [[15/13]] and [[13/10]] from nearby [[7-limit|septimal]] intervals, which neither [[41edo|41-]] nor [[46edo]] does. What bugs me is that the fifth feels undertempered for pretty much every purpose, and while the 5-limit approximation is praiseworthy the rest deserves more love. Compared to [[41edo|41-]] or [[46edo]], it feels slack and doesn't convey a sense of tightly packed well-compromisedness. B-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' The third essential comma-level edo. This one is kinda overrated. The best thing about it is the distinction of [[15/13]] and [[13/10]] from nearby [[7-limit|septimal]] intervals, which neither [[41edo|41-]] nor [[46edo]] does. What bugs me is that the fifth feels undertempered for pretty much every purpose, and while the 5-limit approximation is praiseworthy the rest deserves more love. Compared to [[41edo|41-]] or [[46edo]], it feels slack and doesn't convey a sense of tightly packed well-compromisedness. B-tier.  
: '''Zhenlige:''' A stack of [[3/2]]. Almost just [[3/1|3]], accurate [[5-limit]], and decent [[7-limit]]. Good for 5-limit [[schismatic]] with occasional [[garibaldi]] [[7/1|7]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' A stack of [[3/2]]. Almost just [[3/1|3]], accurate [[5-limit]], and decent [[7-limit]]. Good for 5-limit [[schismatic]] with occasional [[garibaldi]] [[7/1|7]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' Pythagorean tuning incarnate, and astounding 5-limit. 2.3.5.13.19 is especially potent, but the .7.23 is still very much usable, even the .11! It doesn't temper as many things together as 41edo, so it feels like a less compromised system, still, I feel bad for the rest of the edos near this one, because this trumps a lot of the competition. But what can I say? Suck it losers! SS.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Pythagorean tuning incarnate, and astounding ya. Yathana is especially potent, but the -zatwetha is still very much usable, even the yazalatha! It feels less tempered than 41edo, so it feels like a less compromised system, still, I feel bad for the rest of the edos near this one, because this trumps a lot of the competition. But what can I say? Suck it losers! Rank: SS.


== [[55edo]] ==
== [[55edo]] ==
: '''ArrowHead:''' A standardisation and representation of [[1/6-comma meantone]], proposed by [[Telemann]] as a theoretical basis for analysing the intervals of meantone. Works well for most of Western music written since the {{w|Renaissance music|Renaissance}} and even works today for songs that don't presuppose [[12edo]]'s [[enharmonic]]s, but in practice I think it's really best suited for certain classical works as it's gotten to the point of diminishing returns. For non-classical musicians, the sound is likely to be far too similar to 12edo to justify the significant extra complexity, especially since [[43edo]] and [[50edo]] are already pushing it.
: '''ArrowHead:''' A standardisation and representation of [[1/6-comma meantone]], proposed by [[Telemann]] as a theoretical basis for analysing the intervals of meantone. Works well for most of Western music written since the {{w|Renaissance music|Renaissance}} and even works today for songs that don't presuppose [[12edo]]'s [[enharmonic]]s, but in practice I think it's really best suited for certain classical works as it's gotten to the point of diminishing returns. For non-classical musicians, the sound is likely to be far too similar to 12edo to justify the significant extra complexity, especially since [[43edo]] and [[50edo]] are already pushing it.
: '''Fumica:''' This edo is out of the [[optimal tuning|optimal]] range of meantone. [[Septimal meantone]] feels dumb here since we know [[43edo]] is sharp enough. It can be used for [[mohaha]], but that feels so similar to [[24edo]] that I'd just go with the latter. D-tier.
: '''Fumica:''' This edo is out of the [[optimal tuning|optimal]] range of meantone. [[Septimal meantone]] feels dumb here since we know [[43edo]] is sharp enough. It can be used for [[mohaha]], but that feels so similar to [[24edo]] that I'd just go with the latter. D-tier.
: '''Eufalesio''': Even worse than 43edo. In fact, it's a zeta valley edo, which means that it does a bad job at approximating JI, and that in my eyes is a failed edo. I don't know what the Mozarts were on while they suggested a meantone this sharp... it's not good at all! Rank: FF


== [[56edo]] ==
== [[56edo]] ==
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: '''Fumica:''' The last essential comma-level edo. Has the same problem as [[60edo]]. Even tho it approximates [[JI]] way better and thus qualifies for an essential comma-level edo, most of its structural features have been provided by [[41edo|41-]] and [[58edo]]. B-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' The last essential comma-level edo. Has the same problem as [[60edo]]. Even tho it approximates [[JI]] way better and thus qualifies for an essential comma-level edo, most of its structural features have been provided by [[41edo|41-]] and [[58edo]]. B-tier.  
: '''Zhenlige:''' The ultimate extension of [[12edo]] and [[24edo]]. Its [[11-limit]] is very accurate with a slightly flat tendency that works well with 12edo's flat [[3/1|3]], and some higher limit intervals are also usable. [[Compton]] which is useful in 12edo-based programs. The only notable [[13-limit]] non-[[akea]] EDO around this size. A powerful tool for modulating quartertones, which can be difficult in 24edo itself. Good for [[miracle]]. Suitable for octave stretching if only [[17-limit]] or below is used. Playable by using three 24edo instruments or six 12edo instruments.
: '''Zhenlige:''' The ultimate extension of [[12edo]] and [[24edo]]. Its [[11-limit]] is very accurate with a slightly flat tendency that works well with 12edo's flat [[3/1|3]], and some higher limit intervals are also usable. [[Compton]] which is useful in 12edo-based programs. The only notable [[13-limit]] non-[[akea]] EDO around this size. A powerful tool for modulating quartertones, which can be difficult in 24edo itself. Good for [[miracle]]. Suitable for octave stretching if only [[17-limit]] or below is used. Playable by using three 24edo instruments or six 12edo instruments.
: '''Eufalesio:''' The first compton edo that achieves any semblance of JIoid goodness. This was one of the first finer edos I've composed in. It has an astounding 11-limit, and decent 19-limit! It's also a multiple of 12, so it is very transposing-friendly and building it is trivial! It's a miracle, and it also supports it! SSS.
: '''Eufalesio:''' The first compton edo that achieves any semblance of JIoid goodness. This was one of the first finer edos I've composed in. It has an astounding yazala, and decent 19-limti! It's also a multiple of 12, so it is very transposing-friendly and building it is trivial! It's a miracle, and it also supports it! Rank: SSS.


== [[73edo]] ==
== [[73edo]] ==
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: '''Yourmusic Productions:''' [[12edo]] only each note is split into a full rainbow, which makes for awesome looking yet still easily comprehensible [[notation]]. The best multiple of 12 for [[5-limit]] music and my personal holy grail of edos to find a way to make playable.
: '''Yourmusic Productions:''' [[12edo]] only each note is split into a full rainbow, which makes for awesome looking yet still easily comprehensible [[notation]]. The best multiple of 12 for [[5-limit]] music and my personal holy grail of edos to find a way to make playable.
: '''Zhenlige:''' An alternate [[compton]] EDO besides [[72edo]], with better [[5/1|5]] and [[13/1|13]] with the expense of [[11/1|11]]. It has a sharp tendency instead of 72edo's flat.
: '''Zhenlige:''' An alternate [[compton]] EDO besides [[72edo]], with better [[5/1|5]] and [[13/1|13]] with the expense of [[11/1|11]]. It has a sharp tendency instead of 72edo's flat.
: '''Eufalesio:''' I haven't composed anything in it, but theory tells me that it's a really good compton edo. The bad tuning of the 11 is a bit sad, but it can be useful all the way up to the 31-limit. The 2.3.5.7.13 here is instead a great subgroup, which is a good selling point for me. Had I known about it, I could have probably used this instead of 72edo, but I'm now not that interested in compton anymore. A.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' I haven't composed anything in it, but theory tells me that it's a really good compton edo. The bad tuning of the 11 is a bit sad, but it can be useful all the way up to the 31-limit. The 2.3.5.7.13 here is instead a great subgroup, which is a good selling point for me. Had I known about it, I could have probably used this instead of 72edo, but I'm now not that interested in compton anymore. Rank: A.


== [[87edo]] ==
== [[87edo]] ==
: '''Bozu:''' [[29edo]] with each interval sliced into three. You can do some nifty stuff with it, but the number of notes is too crazy to cover much with midi unless you choose a subset. Pushing a continuum beyond this.
: '''Bozu:''' [[29edo]] with each interval sliced into three. You can do some nifty stuff with it, but the number of notes is too crazy to cover much with midi unless you choose a subset. Pushing a continuum beyond this.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Good [[mystery]] EDO. Useful for high limit JI. Playable by using three [[29edo]] instruments.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Good [[mystery]] EDO. Useful for high limit JI. Playable by using three [[29edo]] instruments.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Theory says that it is a really strong [[13-limit]] edo. So much so, that it is the first edo with [[distinct consistency]] and [[pure consistency]] in the [[13-odd-limit]], and normal [[consistency]] in the [[15-odd-limit]], and for that, I give it my respects. However, I like my fifths to have minimal error, and being a subset of 29edo, the fifths are good, but not as good. C+.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Theory says that it is a really strong [[13-limit]] edo. So much so, that it is the first edo with [[distinct consistency]] and [[pure consistency]] in the [[13-odd-limit]], and normal [[consistency]] in the [[15-odd-limit]], and for that, I give it my respects. However, I like my fifths to have minimal error, and being a subset of 29edo, the fifths are good, but not as good. Rank: C+.


== [[94edo]] ==
== [[94edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' Surprisingly, I have attempted to use this EDO before, and it is the first EDO I've attempted to use that wasn't some kind of superset of [[12edo]].  I've noticed just from working out the [[JI]] intervals that this EDO approximates that the [[7-limit]] for this EDO is really good- better than what this EDO has to offer in the [[5-limit]]. Furthermore, all of the pitches in this EDO are connected by a single, complicated [[circle of fifths]]. It is from working with this EDO that I learned the ways that the [[paradiatonic]] [[harmonic limit|prime-limits]] (that would be the [[7-limit]], the [[11-limit]], and the [[13-limit]]) are connected with each other.
: '''Aura:''' Surprisingly, I have attempted to use this EDO before, and it is the first EDO I've attempted to use that wasn't some kind of superset of [[12edo]].  I've noticed just from working out the [[JI]] intervals that this EDO approximates that the [[7-limit]] for this EDO is really good- better than what this EDO has to offer in the [[5-limit]]. Furthermore, all of the pitches in this EDO are connected by a single, complicated [[circle of fifths]]. It is from working with this EDO that I learned the ways that the [[paradiatonic]] [[harmonic limit|prime-limits]] (that would be the [[7-limit]], the [[11-limit]], and the [[13-limit]]) are connected with each other.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Good for high-limit JI with the [[garibaldi]] structure similar to [[41edo]] and [[53edo]]. Containing [[Carlos Beta]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' Good for high-limit JI with the [[garibaldi]] structure similar to [[41edo]] and [[53edo]]. Containing [[Carlos Beta]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' GOAT. The combination of the two smallest schismic edos, which are both incredibly solid choices, into one neatly rounded package that is very optimized. '''I am heavily biased towards this''', as it represents the ultimate cassandra, and a chain-of-fifths framework that I find extremely easy to work with. It also tempers a lot of things together, much like 41edo, – Naturals for [[prime interval|prime]] [[3/1|3]] or [[19/1|19]]. ±1 for [[17/1|17]] or [[23/1|23]]. ∓2 for [[5/1|5]] or [[7/1|7]]. ±4 for [[11/1|11]] or [[13/1|13]]. Throughout many different peer-reviewed experiments and in many on my compositions, I've found that this edo is good enough for most [[microtonal music|xen]] purposes. Still a tiny smidge innacurate in the 5-limit, but since it is flat and not sharp, I find it much more palatable, as I like wide minor thirds. I really only use it for the 2.3.5.7.11.13.19, but the [[23-limit]] goodness is no joke. SSS.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' GOAT. The combination of the two coarsest schismic edos, which are both incredibly solid choices. However, 41edo is a tad too tempered and 53edo is a tad too untempered and too close to using pythagorean tuning as if it were yazalatha. However, 94edo is tempered ''just'' enough, into a neatly optimized cassandra package. '''I am heavily''' '''biased''' '''towards this''', as it represents the ultimate cassandra, the simplest extended chain-of-fifths framework which I find extremely easy to work with. – Naturals for prime 3 or 19. ±1 for 17 or 23. ∓2 for 5 or 7. ±4 for 11 or 13. Throughout many different peer-reviewed experiments and in many on my compositions, I've found that this edo is good enough for most xen purposes. Still a tiny smidge innacurate in the ya, but since it is flat and not sharp, I find it much more palatable, as I like slightly wide minor thirds. I really only use it for the yazalathana, but the 23-limit goodness is no joke. Rank: '''Perfect.'''


== [[99edo]] ==
== [[99edo]] ==
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== [[130edo]] ==
== [[130edo]] ==
: '''Eufalesio:''' I haven't composed in it, but theory screams to me that this edo is a beast. I like to think of it as [[65edo]], but good. It has an extremely accurate [[13-limit]], and a [[schismic]] [[chain of fifths|chain-of-fifths]] framework? Count me in! S+.
: '''Eufalesio:''' I haven't composed in it, but theory screams to me that this edo is a beast. I like to think of it as 65edo, but good. It has a very accurate yazalatha, and a schismic chain-of-fifths framework? Cool. Only problem... It's rastmic. Rastmic is a tad innacurate of a framework for an edo in the hundreds, but oh well. Rank: S


== [[159edo]] ==
== [[159edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' This is the main system I use in writing [[microtonal music]]. After finishing the list of [[JI]] equivalents of the various steps of this EDO, I have since found that not only is 159edo very good for those who like to make more just versions of the [[quartertone|quartertone-based intervals]] you see in [[24edo]], but is also very capable of approximating the steps of many lower EDOs within five [[cents]], making for some decent retunings of some of the more commonly used EDOs such as [[22edo]], [[31edo]], and even [[41edo]], which was part of the premise of "[[:File:Space Tour.mp3|Space Tour]]". Based on this discovery alone, I'd have to say that 159edo is not just a superset of [[53edo]], but rather, an EDO that is quite full of potential.  However, the fact is that this EDO is [[consistent]] all the way up to the [[17-limit]], and has a good [[23/1|23-prime]], and, should you skip the [[17/1|17-prime]], you have access to a decent [[19/1|19-prime]] and [[29/1|29-prime]]. This, and the fact that one has access to a bunch of [[microtemperament]]s in this EDO, all for a step-size that's slightly above the average [[JND]], means I can also perform other tricks in composition. I imagine at this point that some would ask me why I don't just use JI, and the answer is that even an EDO in the hundreds like 159edo is considerably more simple than JI, as you have to account for a lot of [[unnoticeable comma]]s in JI- a near-pointless endeavor as virtually nobody can hear such small differences in pitch.
: '''Aura:''' This is the main system I use in writing [[microtonal music]]. After finishing the list of [[JI]] equivalents of the various steps of this EDO, I have since found that not only is 159edo very good for those who like to make more just versions of the [[quartertone|quartertone-based intervals]] you see in [[24edo]], but is also very capable of approximating the steps of many lower EDOs within five [[cents]], making for some decent retunings of some of the more commonly used EDOs such as [[22edo]], [[31edo]], and even [[41edo]], which was part of the premise of "[[:File:Space Tour.mp3|Space Tour]]". Based on this discovery alone, I'd have to say that 159edo is not just a superset of [[53edo]], but rather, an EDO that is quite full of potential.  However, the fact is that this EDO is [[consistent]] all the way up to the [[17-limit]], and has a good [[23/1|23-prime]], and, should you skip the [[17/1|17-prime]], you have access to a decent [[19/1|19-prime]] and [[29/1|29-prime]]. This, and the fact that one has access to a bunch of [[microtemperament]]s in this EDO, all for a step-size that's slightly above the average [[JND]], means I can also perform other tricks in composition. I imagine at this point that some would ask me why I don't just use JI, and the answer is that even an EDO in the hundreds like 159edo is considerably more simple than JI, as you have to account for a lot of [[unnoticeable comma]]s in JI- a near-pointless endeavor as virtually nobody can hear such small differences in pitch.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Aura's favorite tuning. He does have a point, it takes an extremely good edo, and tripling it makes it even better! [[29-limit]] goodness! I don't care as much for the insanely accurate [[2.3.11 subgroup|2.3.11]], as I care for the entirety of the 2.3.5.7.11.13.19(.29), on which it is worse than other alternatives, as primes [[7/1|7]] and [[13/1|13]] are relatively innacurate. I've composed stuff with it, and it isn't as easy to do as in other edos, but the result is still decent. SS-.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Aura's favorite tuning. He does have a point, it takes an extremely good edo, and tripling it makes it even better! 29-limit goodness! I don't care as much for the insanely accurate ila, as I care for the entire yazalatha, on which it is worse than other alternatives, as primes 7 and 13 are relatively innacurate. I've composed stuff with it, and it isn't as easy to do as in other edos, but the result is still decent. Rank: SS-


== [[171edo]] ==
== [[171edo]] ==
: '''Zhenlige:''' The ultimate EDO for approximating [[7-limit]] JI. It suggests very slight stretching. If you don't need some ridiculous high precision or specific [[microtemperament]]s, there is no need to go any further. [[Schismatic]], [[gammic]], [[ennealimmal]] and [[enneadecal]]. Containing a better [[Carlos Gamma]] scale than [[34edo]]. At this size level, EDOs are more like free pitch, rather than either JI or a stable temperament. Ideal for free-pitch-like music that emphasizes 7-limit.
: '''Zhenlige:''' The ultimate EDO for approximating [[7-limit]] JI. It suggests very slight stretching. If you don't need some ridiculous high precision or specific [[microtemperament]]s, there is no need to go any further. [[Schismatic]], [[gammic]], [[ennealimmal]] and [[enneadecal]]. Containing a better [[Carlos Gamma]] scale than [[34edo]]. At this size level, EDOs are more like free pitch, rather than either JI or a stable temperament. Ideal for free-pitch-like music that emphasizes 7-limit.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Ennealimmal, personified. I haven't composed in it directly, but since I did compose in 7-limit JI, it'd sound the same. It features a dead-accurate 7-limit that I cannot distinguish from just. It's that good. The great innacuracy of the [[11/1|11]] is a bit sad, though it still has a usable [[13/1|13]], which has that going for it. A.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Ennealimmal, personified. I haven't composed in it directly, but since I did compose in yaza JI, it'd sound the same. It features a dead-accurate yaza that I cannot distinguish from just. It's that good. The great innacuracy of the prime 11 is a bit sad, though it still has a usable [[yazatha]], which has that going for it. Rank: A  


== [[217edo]] ==
== [[217edo]] ==
: '''Eufalesio:''' It's the septuple of [[31edo]], and that is nothing less than a miracle (though it doesn't [[support]] [[miracle]]). I've done some tests on it, and it's [[31-limit]] is incredible. It introduces an unfamiliar and slightly tedious [[gary|gari-]][[vulture|vulture-esque]] framework in which you have to use [[32805/32768|schisma-function]] steps apart from [[pythagorean comma|pythcommas]], but apart from that, it's still within the realms of manageability. Also, it has an incredible [[2.3.5.13 subgroup|2.3.5.13]], which I really respect. Also important to remark, from this point onward, edos start to sound more or less the same, as the absolute error gets lower and lower, and the difference between edosteps becomes harder to reliably hear. –Apart from that, 217edo's 2.3.5.7.11.13.19 mappings can be easily converted to [[270edo]] or [[311edo]] if need be, S+.
: '''Eufalesio:''' It's the septuple of 31edo, and that is nothing less than a miracle (though it doesn't support miracle). I've done some tests on it, and it's 31-limit is incredible. It's a simple high-accuracy system with very useful subsets. It introduces the cassaschismic framework in which you have to use 3-5 cent steps apart from the pyth spine, but apart from that, it's still within the realms of manageability. Also, it has an incredible yazatha, which I really respect. Rank: S+


== [[224edo]] ==
== [[224edo]] ==
: '''Zhenlige:''' Like [[171edo]] but with a slightly sharper (and closer to just) fifth, worse [[7-limit]] but better [[13-limit]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' Like [[171edo]] but with a slightly sharper (and closer to just) fifth, worse [[7-limit]] but better [[13-limit]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' A cousin to 217edo which is still [[schismic]], dare I say the ultimate schismic edo, though still harder to conceptualize. Theory tells me that the 13-limit is extremely accurate, even more than the [[217edo]], and for that I think it deserves praise. But 217edo is smaller and its mappings can be easily expanded to more accurate edos. B+.
: '''Eufalesio:''' A cousin to 217edo which is still schismic, dare I say the ultimate schismic edo, though still harder to conceptualize. Theory tells me that the yazalatha is extremely accurate, even more than the 217edo, and for that I think it deserves praise. However, 217edo has 31edo as a subset, whilst 224edo only has powers of 2 which suck ass as subsets. Rank: B+


== [[270edo]] ==
== [[270edo]] ==
: '''Zhenlige:''' Better than [[224edo]] if [[schismatic]] is not required. Ideal for free-pitch-like music that emphasizes [[13-limit]].
: '''Zhenlige:''' Better than [[224edo]] if [[schismatic]] is not required. Ideal for free-pitch-like music that emphasizes [[13-limit]].
: '''Eufalesio:''' Ultimate low complexity JIoid edo. Though a tad large now, consistency within its 2.3.5.7.11.13.19 is insane. This trumps a lot of the competition. Using a finer gamut in the same subgroup becomes hard to justify. SSS.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Ultimate low complexity JIoid edo. Though a tad fine now, consistency and accuracy within its yazalathana is insane. I've done some tests with this and this is straight up unbeatable. For practically all musical purposes, this sounds like JI. There is literally no edo better than this within reason, as its step size is still discernible (by me (in mid frequency range)). Rank: '''Perfect'''.  


== [[311edo]] ==
== [[311edo]] ==
: '''Zhenlige:''' Good for very high limit JI.
: '''Zhenlige:''' Good for very high limit JI.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Ultimate ultra-high-limit JI. [[Absolute error]] is a smidge worse than [[270edo]], but it makes up by being [[consistent]] to the goddamn [[41-odd-limit]]. Serendipity personified. Very hard to justify using anything else other than this, as the difference between edosteps from this point on is definitely nigh impossible to hear. I see it as an ultimate tuning of sorts for practicality's sake. SSS.  
: '''Eufalesio:''' Ultimate ultra-high-limit JI. Absolute error is a smidge worse than 270edo, but it makes up by being consistent to the goddamn 41-odd-limit. Since its yazalathana mappings are the same as 270edo, it can be used to retune pieces for much more in tune otonality, but I'm not one to do that. This is my boundary of practicality. From this point on, edosteps begin to blend with each other and using JI is most surely a better option. Rank: SS


== [[665edo]] ==
== [[665edo]] ==
: '''Eufalesio:''' Ultimate [[pythagorean tuning|pyth]]. It has an unfathomably perfect [[3-limit|2.3]], and I say that in an almost literal sense. It is very much fathomable, obviously: the beat period of 665edo's fifth is 5077906.80060 s*Hz with two sawtooth waves in perfect sync, which would be around 3 hours, 12 minutes 21 seconds at ''f''=440. 3 fucking hours. That's what it would take you to hear the beating of 665edo. It is, for all intents and purposes, unfathomable to focused human perception. Or, you could make a 3-hour track out of this. –However, this is not why you would use 665edo, as this essentially allows you to extend the precision limit of the chain of fifths from very good to ''extreme,'' by adding the mercator (+53 fifths) and an equalized qian comma (+306/-359 fifths) into the mix, also working as a schisma. Yes, it has a bad [[prime interval|prime]] [[11/1|11]], but it is surprisingly good in the rest of primes up to the [[27-odd-limit]], which is very surprising for a convergent. I will likely never use this, but since I do greatly care about the [[chain of fifths]] as a theoretical construct, I care about this ''theoretically''. A-.
: '''Eufalesio:''' Ultimate pyth. It has an unfathomably perfect 2.3, and I say that in an almost literal sense. It is very much fathomable, obviously: the beat period of 665edo's fifth is 5077906.80060 s*Hz with two sawtooth waves in perfect sync, which would be around 3 hours, 12 minutes 21 seconds at f=440. 3 fucking hours. That's what it would take you to hear the beating of 665edo. It is, for all intents and purposes, unfathomable to focused human perception. Or, you could make a 3-hour track out of this and sell it to ''connoisseurs'' disenchanted with the mainstream. However, this is not why you would use 665edo, as this essentially allows you to extend the precision limit of the chain of fifths from very good to ''extreme,'' by adding the mercator (+53 fifths) and an equalized qian comma (+306/-359 fifths) into the mix, also working as a schisma. Yes, it has a bad prime 11, but it is surprisingly good in the rest of primes up to the 27-odd-limit, which is very surprising for a convergent. I will likely never use this, but since I do greatly care about the chain of fifths as a theoretical construct, I think this is good. Rank: A.
 
== [[1600edo]] ==
: '''Eufalesio:''' Now we've gone far tooo big. But… you know… [[43-odd-limit]]… ah… round number… ah! It tickles special parts of my brain, even if it's not really practical to use it. I don't really know why I like it, I'm probably not going to use anything above the [[29-limit]]… but what if…? B.
 
== [[2460edo]] ==
:'''Eufalesio:''' The only reason I've put this one here is because it is a 12''n'' edo, and that makes it ''slightly'' easier to work with, and very transposing friendly. It's astonishingly accurate, though dividing the semitone into 205ths is reasonably excessive. C.  


== [[7315edo]] ==
== [[7315edo]] ==
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== [[8539edo]] ==
== [[8539edo]] ==
:'''Eufalesio:''' This level of fineness is at the bleeding edge of insanity. The precision of this behemoth is astounding. I firmly believe no sane person would compose anything requiring a tuning precision higher than what this offers. And I'm one to ogle at impossibly gargantuan edos, I'll admit, but that ogling is only theoretical. Beyond here… there be monsters… and hot sauce. C.
:'''Eufalesio:''' If 311edo was my boundary of practicality, 8539edo is my boundary of sanity. The precision of this behemoth is unfathomable. I firmly believe no sane person would compose anything requiring a tuning precision higher than what this offers. And I'm one to ogle at impossibly gargantuan edos, I'll admit, but that ogling is only theoretical. Beyond here... there be monsters... and hot sauce. Rank: C


== [[190537edo]] ==
== [[190537edo]] ==