Didacus

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Didacus
Subgroups 2.5.7, 2.5.7.11
Comma basis 3136/3125 (2.5.7);
176/175, 1375/1372 (2.5.7.11)
Reduced mapping <1; 2 5 9]
Edo join 6 & 19
Generator (POTE) ~28/25 = 193.772c
MOS scales 1L 5s, 6L 1s, 6L 7s
Ploidacot diseph
Minmax error (7-odd limit) 1.22c;
(11-odd limit) 4.13c
Target scale size (7-odd limit) 13 notes;
(11-odd limit) 19 notes

Didacus is an temperament of the 2.5.7 subgroup, tempering out 3136/3125, the hemimean comma, such that two intervals of 7/5 reach the same point as three intervals of 5/4; the generator is therefore (7/5)/(5/4) = 28/25, two of which stack to 5/4 and three of which stack to 7/5, notable for being one of the most efficient traversals of the no-threes subgroup. 31edo is a very good tuning of didacus, with its generator 5\31 (which is the "mean tone" of 31edo); but 25edo, 37edo, and 68edo among others are good tunings as well. As this generator tends to be slightly less than 1/6 of the octave, MOS scales of didacus tend to consist of 6 long intervals interspersed by sequences of diesis-sized steps (representing 50/49~128/125), therefore bearing similar properties to those of slendric.

It also has a simple extension to prime 11 - undecimal didacus, by tempering out 176/175, the valinorsma, so that (5/4)2 is equated to 11/7. Further extensions to primes 13, 17, and 19, known as roulette and mediantone, are also possible.

As for prime 3, while didacus has as a weak extension (among others) septimal meantone, strong extensions that include 3 are rather complex. Hemithirds (25 & 31) tempers out 1029/1024 to find the fifth at 3/2 ~ (8/7)3, and therefore the 3rd harmonic 15 generators down; and hemiwürschmidt (31 & 37) tempers out 2401/2400 so that (5/4)8 is equated to 6/1, finding the 3rd harmonic 16 generators up (and as described for the page for 5-limit würschmidt, there is also a free extension to find 23/1 at 28 generators). These two mappings intersect in 31edo, though the latter spans the optimal range for undecimal didacus specifically.

For technical data, see Hemimean clan #Didacus.

Interval chain

In the following table, odd harmonics and subharmonics 1–35 are labeled in bold.

# Cents* Approximate ratios
2.5.7.11 intervals Intervals of extensions
Hemithirds Hemiwürschmidt
0 0.0 1/1
1 194.4 28/25, 49/44, 55/49
2 388.9 5/4, 44/35 144/115
3 583.3 7/5
4 777.7 11/7, 25/16 36/23
5 972.1 7/4, 44/25 184/105
6 1166.6 49/25, 55/28 96/49, 45/23
7 161.0 11/10, 35/32 23/21, 126/115
8 355.4 49/40, 121/98 128/105 60/49, 92/75
9 549.9 11/8 48/35, 63/46, 115/84
10 744.3 49/32, 77/50 32/21 75/49, 23/15
11 938.7 55/32, 121/70 128/75 12/7
12 1133.1 77/40 40/21 48/25, 23/12
13 127.6 121/112 16/15 15/14
14 322.0 77/64, 121/100 25/21 6/5, 115/96
15 516.4 4/3 75/56
16 710.8 121/80 112/75 3/2
17 905.3 5/3 42/25
18 1099.7 121/64 28/15 15/8
19 94.1 25/24 21/20

* In CWE undecimal didacus

Tunings

Optimized tunings

Prime-optimized tunings
Weight-skew\Order Euclidean
Constrained Destretched
Tenney (2.5.7) CTE: ~28/25 = 193.650¢ (2.5.7) POTE: ~28/25 = 193.772¢
Equilateral (2.5.7) CEE: ~28/25 = 193.681¢

(12/29-comma)

Tenney (2.5.7.11) CTE: ~28/25 = 194.246¢ (2.5.7.11) POTE: ~28/25 = 194.556¢
DR and equal-beating tunings
Optimized chord Generator value Polynomial Further notes
4:5:7 (+1 +2) ~28/25 = 197.346 g5 − 3g2 + 2 = 0 Close to -1/5-comma
5:7:8 (+2 +1) ~28/25 = 193.829 g5g2 − 4 = 0 Close to 37/95-comma
7:8:10 (+1 +2) ~28/25 = 193.630 g5 + g2 − 3 = 0 Close to 33/80-comma
8:11:14 (+1 +1) ~28/25 = 195.043 g9g5 − 1 = 0
11:14:16 (+3 +2) ~28/25 = 192.698 g9 − 5g5 + 6 = 0

Tuning spectrum

EDO
generator
Eigenmonzo
(unchanged interval)
*
Generator (¢) Comments
1\7 171.429 7dee val, lower bound of (2.5.7) 7-odd-limit diamond monotone
2\13 184.615 13e val, lower bound of (2.5.7.11) 11-odd-limit diamond monotone
3\19 189.474 19e val
125/112 190.115 Full-comma
7\44 190.909 44dee val
4\25 192.000
9\56 192.857 56e val
14\87 193.103 87e val
5/4 193.157 1/2-comma
19\118 193.220 118ee val
5\31 193.548
7/4 193.765 2/5-comma
21\130 193.846 130e val
16\99 193.939
27\167 194.012 167e val
11\68 194.118
7/5 194.171 1/3-comma
17\105 194.286
23\142 194.366
11/8 194.591
6\37 194.595
196/125 194.678 1/4-comma
19\117 194.872 117d val
13\80 195.000
11/10 195.001
7\43 195.349
11/7 195.623
8\49 195.918
28/25 196.198 Untempered tuning
9\55 196.364 55de val
1\6 200.000 Upper bound of (no-threes) 7- and 11-odd-limit diamond monotone

* Besides the octave

Other tunings

  • DKW (2.5.7): ~2 = 1\1, ~28/25 = 194.061

Images

Didacus.png

A chart of the tuning spectrum of didacus, showing the offsets of prime harmonics 5, 7, and 11, as a function of the generator; all EDO tunings are shown with vertical lines whose length indicates the EDO's tolerance, i.e. half of its step size in either direction of just, and some small EDOs supporting the temperament are labeled.