1375/1372

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Interval information
Ratio 1375/1372
Factorization 2-2 × 53 × 7-3 × 11
Monzo [-2 0 3 -3 1
Size in cents 3.781365¢
Names moctdel comma,
moctdelisma
Color name 1or3y3-3, lotriruyo negative 3rd,
Lotriruyo comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{dd}{-3}^{5,5,5,11}_{7,7,7} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 20.8473
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 20.8504
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 51
Comma size small
Open this interval in xen-calc

1375/1372, the moctdel comma or moctdelisma is a no-threes 11-limit comma with a size of 3.78 cents. It is the amount by which a stack of three 7/5s falls short of 11/4, undecimal eleventh (one octave above 11/8). Some rank-two temperaments such as miracle, octoid and grendel temper out this comma, and from this it derives its name.

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma leads to the rank-4 moctdelismic temperament in the full 11-limit, and moctdelic temperament in its minimal prime subgroup of 2.5.7.11.

In the 2.7/5.11 subgroup it creates a very efficient temperament with a generator of 7/5, two of which equals 55/28 and three of which equals 11/4 as discussed. If we split the generator in 3, we get ~28/25 which is notable as the difference between 5/4 and 7/5 so that two gens finds 5/4, four gens finds 25/16~11/7 and seven gens finds 11/5, which is the (no-3's) 11-limit version of didacus, a very strong temperament of the 2.5.7.11 subgroup.

Moctdelismic

Comma list: 1375/1372

Subgroup: full 11-limit

Mapping[1 0 0 0 2], 0 1 0 0 0], 0 0 1 0 -3], 0 0 0 1 3]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.056¢, ~3 = 1901.955¢, ~5 = 2785.862¢, ~7 = 3369.486¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000¢, ~3 = 1901.910¢, ~5 = 2785.789¢, ~7 = 3369.416¢

Optimal ET sequence12, 19e, 29, 31, 41, 72, 152, 224

Badness (Sintel): 0.723

Moctdelic

Comma list: 1375/1372

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11

Mapping[1 0 0 2], 0 1 0 -3], 0 0 1 3]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.056¢, ~5 = 2785.862¢, ~7 = 3369.486¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000¢, ~5 = 2785.789¢, ~7 = 3369.416¢

Optimal ET sequence25, 29, 31, 37

Badness (Sintel): 0.110

See also