Superpyth

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Superpyth is a temperament of the archytas clan where ~3/2 is a generator, and the Archytas comma 64/63 is tempered out, so a stack of two generators octave-reduced represents 8/7 in addition to 9/8. Since 3/2 is a generator we can use the same standard chain-of-fifths notation that is also used for meantone and 12edo, with the understanding that, for example, A♯ is sharper than B♭ (in contrast to meantone where A♯ is flatter than B♭, or 12edo where they are identical). An interesting coincidence is that the plastic number has a value of ~486.822 cents, which, taken as a generator (~4/3) and assuming an octave period, constitutes a variety of superpyth.

Such a temperament without the 5th harmonic is also called archy. If the 5th harmonic is used at all, it is mapped to +9 generators through tempering out 245/243, so C-D♯ is 5/4. So superpyth is the "opposite" of septimal meantone in several different ways: meantone has 3/2 tempered narrow so that intervals of 5 are simple and intervals of 7 are complex, while superpyth has 3/2 tempered wide so that intervals of 7 are simple while intervals of 5 are complex.

If intervals of 11 are desired, the canonical way is to map 11/8 to +16 generators, so 11/8 is a double augmented second (C-Dx), tempering out 100/99. Yet a simpler but reasonable way is to map it to -6 generators, so 11/8 is a diminished fifth (C-G♭), by tempering out 99/98. The latter is called supra, or suprapyth. The two mappings unite on 22edo.

Mos scales of superpyth have cardinalities of 5, 7, 12, 17, or 22.

For more technical data, see Archytas clan #Superpyth.

Interval chains

Archy (2.3.7)
1146.61 437.29 927.97 218.64 709.32 0 490.68 981.36 272.03 762.71 53.39
27/14 9/7 12/7 9/8~8/7 3/2 1/1 4/3 7/4~16/9 7/6 14/9 28/27
Full 7-limit superpyth
613.20 1102.91 392.62 882.33 172.04 661.75 1151.46 441.16 930.87 220.58 710.29 0 489.71 979.42 269.13 758.84 48.54 538.25 1027.96 317.67 807.38 97.09 586.80
10/7 15/8 5/4 5/3 10/9 27/14 9/7 12/7 9/8~8/7 3/2 1/1 4/3 7/4~16/9 7/6 14/9 28/27 9/5 6/5 8/5 16/15 7/5
Supra (2.3.7.11)
857.54 150.35 643.15 1135.96 428.77 921.58 214.38 707.19 0 492.81 985.62 278.42 771.23 64.04 556.85 1049.65 342.46
18/11 12/11 16/11 27/14 14/11~9/7 12/7 9/8~8/7 3/2 1/1 4/3 7/4~16/9 7/6 14/9~11/7 33/32~28/27 11/8 11/6 11/9
Full 11-limit suprapyth
604.44 1094.94 385.45 875.96 166.46 656.97 1147.47 437.98 928.48 218.99 709.49 0 490.51 981.01 271.52 762.02 52.53 543.03 1033.54 324.04 814.55 105.06 595.56
10/7 15/8 5/4 18/11~5/3 12/11~10/9 16/11 27/14 14/11~9/7 12/7 9/8~8/7 3/2 1/1 4/3 7/4~16/9 7/6 14/9~11/7 33/32~28/27 11/8 9/5~11/6 6/5~11/9 8/5 16/15 7/5

Scales

5-note MOS (2L 3s, proper)
  • Archy5 – archy in 472edo tuning
7-note MOS (5L 2s, improper)
  • Archy7 – archy in 472edo tuning
  • Supra7 – supra in 56edo tuning

In contrast to the meantone diatonic scale, the superpyth diatonic is improper.

12-note MOS (5L 7s, borderline improper)
  • Archy12 – archy in 472edo tuning
  • Supra12 – supra in 56edo tuning
  • 12-22a – superpyth in 22edo tuning

The boundary of propriety is 17edo.

Tunings

Prime-optimized tunings

2.3.7 Subgroup Prime-Optimized Tunings
Weight-skew\Order Euclidean
Tenney CTE: ~3/2 = 709.5948¢
Weil CWE: ~3/2 = 709.3901¢
Equilateral CEE: ~3/2 = 712.8606¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.49/3 (2/5-comma tuning)
Skewed-equilateral CSEE: ~3/2 = 711.9997¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.823543/243 (7/19-comma tuning)
Benedetti/Wilson CBE: ~3/2 = 707.7286¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.[0 -49 0 18 (18/85-comma tuning)
Skewed-Benedetti/Wilson CSBE: ~3/2 = 707.9869¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.[0 -63 25 (25/113-comma tuning)
7-limit Prime-Optimized Tunings
Weight-skew\Order Euclidean
Tenney CTE: ~3/2 = 709.5907¢
Weil CWE: ~3/2 = 710.1193¢
Equilateral CEE: ~3/2 = 709.7805¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.5859375/49
Skewed-equilateral CSEE: ~3/2 = 710.2428¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.[0 3 -37 18
Benedetti/Wilson CBE: ~3/2 = 709.4859¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.[0 -1225 -3969 450
Skewed-Benedetti/Wilson CSBE: ~3/2 = 710.0321¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.[0 665 -15771 5160

Tuning spectrum

Edo
Generator
Eigenmonzo
(Unchanged-interval)
Generator
(¢)
Comments
3/2 701.955 Pythagorean tuning
10\17 705.882 Lower bound of 7- and 9-odd-limit diamond monotone
27/14 707.408 1/5 comma
23\39 707.692
9/7 708.771 1/4 comma, {1, 3, 7, 9} minimax
15/8 708.807
13\22 709.091
5/4 709.590 9-odd-limit minimax
49/27 709.745 2/7 comma
15/14 709.954
25/24 710.040
29\49 710.204
5/3 710.545
7/5 710.681 7-odd-limit minimax
7/6 711.043 1/3 comma, {1, 3, 7} minimax
16\27 711.111
21/20 711.553
9/5 711.772
19\32 712.500
49/48 712.861 2/5 comma, 2.3.7 subgroup CEE tuning
25\42 714.286
7/4 715.587 1/2 comma
3\5 720.000 Upper bound of 7- and 9-odd-limit diamond monotone
21/16 729.219 Full comma

Music

Lillian Hearne

Both in 22edo tuning

Joel Grant Taylor

All in superpyth[12] in 22edo tuning.

See also