13/11

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Interval information
Ratio 13/11
Subgroup monzo 11.13 [-1 1
Size in cents 289.2097¢
Names tridecimal minor third,
neo-Gothic minor third,
major minthmic minor third
Color name 3o1u3, tholu 3rd
FJS name [math]\text{m3}^{13}_{11}[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney height (log2 nd) 7.15987
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 7.40088
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 24
Harmonic entropy
(Shannon, [math]\sqrt{nd}[/math])
~4.23071 bits

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In 13-limit just intonation, 13/11 is the tridecimal minor third, neo-Gothic minor third or major minthmic minor third, measuring about 289.2¢. It is the difference between the 11th and 13th harmonics. The (octave-reduced) 11th harmonic (11/8, about 551.3¢) and 13th harmonic (13/8, about 840.5¢) are both quite xenharmonic and demand new interval categories, while 13/11 can be likened unto some kind of relatively complex minor third – it is a major minthma (352/351) narrower than the Pythagorean minor third (32/27). It can even function as such in a 13-limit neo-Gothic minor triad of 22:26:33, with a 3/2 perfect fifth between 33 and 22. Compare this to 22:26:32 (11:13:16), which has the much more dissonant 16/11 as the outside interval in place of 3/2. The latter triad sounds more like a xenharmonic version of a diminished triad, and could not be confused with simpler diminished triads such as 5:6:7.

13/11 is the classic mediant between the simpler and more familiar ratios 6/5 and 7/6, as it can be given as (6+7)/(5+6). This puts in between the latter ratios, slightly closer to 7/6. More complex minor thirds can be generated by taking the mediant between 13/11 and 7/6 (which yields (13+7)/(11+6) = 20/17, the septendecimal subminor third, about 281.4¢) and between 13/11 and 6/5 (which yields (13+6)/(11+5) = 19/16, the overtone minor third of 19-limit JI, about 297.5¢). (See the diagram below.)

subminor and minor third 7/6
266.9¢
6/5
315.6¢
interval in between << 36:35
48.7¢
>>
add mediant (13/11) 7/6
266.9¢
13/11
289.2¢
6/5
315.6¢
intervals in between << 78:77
22.3¢
>> << 66:65
26.4¢
>>
add mediants (20/17 and 19/16) 7/6
266.9¢
20/17
281.4¢
13/11
289.2¢
19/16
297.5¢
6/5
315.6¢
intervals in between << 120:119 >>
14.5¢
<< 221:220 >>
7.9¢
<< 209:208 >>
8.3¢
<< 96:95 >>
18.1¢

Approximation

This interval is well approximated by 4\17 (282.353 cents), and even better, by 7\29 (289.655 cents).

See also

External links

  • The Noble Mediant by Margo Schulter and David Keenan, the earliest description of 13/11 as the "neo-Gothic" minor third