3L 4s

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Scale structure
Step pattern LsLsLss
ssLsLsL
Equave 2/1 (1200.0 ¢)
Period 2/1 (1200.0 ¢)
Generator size
Bright 2\7 to 1\3 (342.9 ¢ to 400.0 ¢)
Dark 2\3 to 5\7 (800.0 ¢ to 857.1 ¢)
TAMNAMS information
Name mosh
Prefix mosh-
Abbrev. mosh
Related MOS scales
Parent 3L 1s
Sister 4L 3s
Daughters 7L 3s, 3L 7s
Neutralized 6L 1s
2-Flought 10L 4s, 3L 11s
Equal tunings
Equalized (L:s = 1:1) 2\7 (342.9 ¢)
Supersoft (L:s = 4:3) 7\24 (350.0 ¢)
Soft (L:s = 3:2) 5\17 (352.9 ¢)
Semisoft (L:s = 5:3) 8\27 (355.6 ¢)
Basic (L:s = 2:1) 3\10 (360.0 ¢)
Semihard (L:s = 5:2) 7\23 (365.2 ¢)
Hard (L:s = 3:1) 4\13 (369.2 ¢)
Superhard (L:s = 4:1) 5\16 (375.0 ¢)
Collapsed (L:s = 1:0) 1\3 (400.0 ¢)

3L 4s, named mosh in TAMNAMS, is a 2/1-equivalent (octave-equivalent) moment of symmetry scale containing 3 large steps and 4 small steps, repeating every octave. Generators that produce this scale range from 342.9 ¢ to 400 ¢, or from 800 ¢ to 857.1 ¢.

Name

TAMNAMS suggests the temperament-agnostic name mosh for this scale, adopted from an older mos naming scheme by Graham Breed. The name is a contraction of "mohajira-ish".

Scale properties

This article uses TAMNAMS conventions for the names of this scale's intervals and scale degrees. The use of 1-indexed ordinal names is reserved for diatonic interval categories.

Intervals

The intervals of 3L 4s are named after the number of mossteps (L and s) they subtend. Each interval, apart from the root and octave (perfect 0-moshstep and perfect 7-moshstep), has two varieties, or sizes, each. Interval varieties are named major and minor for the large and small sizes, respectively, and augmented, perfect, and diminished for the scale's generators.

Intervals of 3L 4s
Intervals Steps
subtended
Range in cents
Generic Specific Abbrev.
0-moshstep Perfect 0-moshstep P0moshs 0 0.0 ¢
1-moshstep Minor 1-moshstep m1moshs s 0.0 ¢ to 171.4 ¢
Major 1-moshstep M1moshs L 171.4 ¢ to 400.0 ¢
2-moshstep Diminished 2-moshstep d2moshs 2s 0.0 ¢ to 342.9 ¢
Perfect 2-moshstep P2moshs L + s 342.9 ¢ to 400.0 ¢
3-moshstep Minor 3-moshstep m3moshs L + 2s 400.0 ¢ to 514.3 ¢
Major 3-moshstep M3moshs 2L + s 514.3 ¢ to 800.0 ¢
4-moshstep Minor 4-moshstep m4moshs L + 3s 400.0 ¢ to 685.7 ¢
Major 4-moshstep M4moshs 2L + 2s 685.7 ¢ to 800.0 ¢
5-moshstep Perfect 5-moshstep P5moshs 2L + 3s 800.0 ¢ to 857.1 ¢
Augmented 5-moshstep A5moshs 3L + 2s 857.1 ¢ to 1200.0 ¢
6-moshstep Minor 6-moshstep m6moshs 2L + 4s 800.0 ¢ to 1028.6 ¢
Major 6-moshstep M6moshs 3L + 3s 1028.6 ¢ to 1200.0 ¢
7-moshstep Perfect 7-moshstep P7moshs 3L + 4s 1200.0 ¢

Generator chain

A chain of bright generators, each a perfect 2-moshstep, produces the following scale degrees. A chain of 7 bright generators contains the scale degrees of one of the modes of 3L 4s. Expanding the chain to 10 scale degrees produces the modes of either 7L 3s (for soft-of-basic tunings) or 3L 7s (for hard-of-basic tunings).

Generator chain of 3L 4s
Bright gens Scale degree Abbrev.
9 Augmented 4-moshdegree A4moshd
8 Augmented 2-moshdegree A2moshd
7 Augmented 0-moshdegree A0moshd
6 Augmented 5-moshdegree A5moshd
5 Major 3-moshdegree M3moshd
4 Major 1-moshdegree M1moshd
3 Major 6-moshdegree M6moshd
2 Major 4-moshdegree M4moshd
1 Perfect 2-moshdegree P2moshd
0 Perfect 0-moshdegree
Perfect 7-moshdegree
P0moshd
P7moshd
−1 Perfect 5-moshdegree P5moshd
−2 Minor 3-moshdegree m3moshd
−3 Minor 1-moshdegree m1moshd
−4 Minor 6-moshdegree m6moshd
−5 Minor 4-moshdegree m4moshd
−6 Diminished 2-moshdegree d2moshd
−7 Diminished 7-moshdegree d7moshd
−8 Diminished 5-moshdegree d5moshd
−9 Diminished 3-moshdegree d3moshd

Modes

Scale degrees of the modes of 3L 4s 
UDP Cyclic
order
Step
pattern
Scale degree (moshdegree)
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
6|0 1 LsLsLss Perf. Maj. Perf. Maj. Maj. Aug. Maj. Perf.
5|1 3 LsLssLs Perf. Maj. Perf. Maj. Maj. Perf. Maj. Perf.
4|2 5 LssLsLs Perf. Maj. Perf. Min. Maj. Perf. Maj. Perf.
3|3 7 sLsLsLs Perf. Min. Perf. Min. Maj. Perf. Maj. Perf.
2|4 2 sLsLssL Perf. Min. Perf. Min. Maj. Perf. Min. Perf.
1|5 4 sLssLsL Perf. Min. Perf. Min. Min. Perf. Min. Perf.
0|6 6 ssLsLsL Perf. Min. Dim. Min. Min. Perf. Min. Perf.

Proposed names

One set of mode nicknames was coined by Andrew Heathwaite. The other set was coined by CellularAutomaton and follows the diatonic modes' naming convention by using ancient Greek toponyms that sound similar to the Heathwaite names.

Modes of 3L 4s
UDP Cyclic
order
Step
pattern
Mode names
(Heathwaite)
Mode names
(CA)
6|0 1 LsLsLss Dril Dalmatian
5|1 3 LsLssLs Gil Galatian
4|2 5 LssLsLs Kleeth Cilician
3|3 7 sLsLsLs Bish Bithynian
2|4 2 sLsLssL Fish Pisidian
1|5 4 sLssLsL Jwl Illyrian
0|6 6 ssLsLsL Led Lycian

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Theory

Low harmonic entropy scales

There are two notable harmonic entropy minima:

  • Neutral third scales, such as dicot, hemififth, and mohajira, in which the generator is a neutral 3rd (around 350 ¢) and two of them make a 3/2 (702 ¢).
  • Magic, in which the generator is 5/4 (386 ¢) and 5 of them make a 3/1 (1902 ¢).

Tuning ranges

3\10 represents a dividing line between "neutral third scales" on the bottom (eg. 17edo neutral scale), and scales generated by submajor and major thirds at the top, with 10edo standing in between. The neutral third scales, after three more generators, make mos 7L 3s (dicoid); the other scales make mos 3L 7s (sephiroid).

In dicoid, the generators are all "neutral thirds," and two of them make an approximation of the "perfect fifth." Additionally, the L of the scale is somewhere around a "whole tone" and the s of the scale is somewhere around a "neutral tone".

In sephiroid, the generators are major thirds (including some very flat ones), and two generators are definitely sharp of a perfect fifth. L ranges from a "supermajor second" to a "major third" and s is a "semitone" or smaller.

Ultrasoft

Ultrasoft mosh tunings have step ratios that are less than 4:3, which implies a generator flatter than 7\24 = 350 ¢.

Ultrasoft mosh can be considered "meantone mosh". This is because the large step is a "meantone" in these tunings, somewhere between near-10/9 (as in 38edo) and near-9/8 (as in 24edo).

Ultrasoft mosh edos include 24edo, 31edo, 38edo, and 55edo.

  • 24edo can be used to make large and small steps more distinct (the step ratio is 4/3), or for its nearly pure 3/2.
  • 38edo can be used to tune the diminished and perfect mosthirds near 6/5 and 11/9, respectively.

These identifications are associated with mohajira temperament.

The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of mosh are as follows in various ultrasoft mosh tunings.

24edo (supersoft) 31edo 38edo 55edo JI intervals represented
generator (g) 7\24, 350.00 9\31, 348.39 11\38, 347.37 16\55, 349.09 11/9
L (4g − octave) 4\24, 200.00 5\31, 193.55 6\38, 189.47 9\55, 196.36 9/8, 10/9
s (octave − 3g) 3\24, 150.00 4\31, 154.84 5\38, 157.89 7\55, 152.72 11/10, 12/11

Quasisoft

Quasisoft tunings of mosh have a step ratio between 3/2 and 5/3, implying a generator sharper than 5\17 = 352.94 ¢ and flatter than 8\27 = 355.56 ¢.

The large step is a sharper major second in these tunings than in ultrasoft tunings. These tunings could be considered "parapyth mosh" or "archy mosh", in analogy to ultrasoft mosh being meantone mosh.

These identifications are associated with beatles and suhajira temperaments.

17edo (soft) 27edo (semisoft) 44edo JI intervals represented
generator (g) 5\17, 352.94 8\27, 355.56 13\44, 354.55 16/13, 11/9
L (4g − octave) 3\17, 211.76 5\27, 222.22 8\44, 218.18 9/8, 8/7
s (octave − 3g) 2\17, 141.18 3\27, 133.33 5\44, 137.37 12/11, 13/12, 14/13

Hypohard

Hypohard tunings of mosh have a step ratio between 2 and 3, implying a generator sharper than 3\10 = 360 ¢ and flatter than 4\13 = 369.23 ¢.

The large step ranges from a semifourth to a subminor third in these tunings. The small step is now clearly a semitone, ranging from 1\10 (120 ¢) to 1\13 (92.31 ¢).

The symmetric mode sLsLsLs becomes a distorted double harmonic major in these tunings.

This range is associated with sephiroth temperament.

10edo (basic) 13edo (hard) 23edo (semihard)
generator (g) 3\10, 360.00 4\13, 369.23 7\23, 365.22
L (4g − octave) 2\10, 240.00 3\13, 276.92 5\23, 260.87
s (octave − 3g) 1\10, 120.00 1\13, 92.31 2\23, 104.35

Ultrahard

Ultra tunings of mosh have a step ratio greater than 4/1, implying a generator sharper than 5\16 = 375 ¢. The generator is thus near a 5/4 major third, five of which add up to an approximate 3/1. The 7-note mos only has two perfect fifths, so extending the chain to bigger mosses, such as the 3L 7s 10-note mos, is suggested for getting 5-limit harmony.

This range is associated with magic temperament.

16edo (superhard) 19edo 22edo 41edo JI intervals represented
generator (g) 5\16, 375.00 6\19, 378.95 7\22, 381.82 13\41, 380.49 5/4
L (4g − octave) 4\16, 300.00 5\19, 315.79 6\22, 327.27 11\41, 321.95 6/5
s (octave − 3g) 1\16, 75.00 1\19, 63.16 1\22, 54.54 2\41, 58.54 25/24

Scale tree

Generator ranges:

  • Chroma-positive generator: 342.8571 ¢ (2\7) to 400.0000 ¢ (1\3)
  • Chroma-negative generator: 800.0000 ¢ (2\3) to 857.1429 ¢ (5\7)
Scale tree and tuning spectrum of 3L 4s
Generator(edo) Cents Step ratio Comments
Bright Dark L:s Hardness
2\7 342.857 857.143 1:1 1.000 Equalized 3L 4s
11\38 347.368 852.632 6:5 1.200 Mohaha / ptolemy ↑
9\31 348.387 851.613 5:4 1.250 Mohaha / migration / mohajira
16\55 349.091 850.909 9:7 1.286
7\24 350.000 850.000 4:3 1.333 Supersoft 3L 4s
19\65 350.769 849.231 11:8 1.375 Mohaha / mohamaq
12\41 351.220 848.780 7:5 1.400 Mohaha / neutrominant
17\58 351.724 848.276 10:7 1.429 Hemif / hemififths
5\17 352.941 847.059 3:2 1.500 Soft 3L 4s
18\61 354.098 845.902 11:7 1.571 Suhajira
13\44 354.545 845.455 8:5 1.600
21\71 354.930 845.070 13:8 1.625 Golden suhajira (354.8232 ¢)
8\27 355.556 844.444 5:3 1.667 Semisoft 3L 4s
Suhajira / ringo
19\64 356.250 843.750 12:7 1.714 Beatles
11\37 356.757 843.243 7:4 1.750
14\47 357.447 842.553 9:5 1.800
3\10 360.000 840.000 2:1 2.000 Basic 3L 4s
Scales with tunings softer than this are proper
13\43 362.791 837.209 9:4 2.250
10\33 363.636 836.364 7:3 2.333
17\56 364.286 835.714 12:5 2.400
7\23 365.217 834.783 5:2 2.500 Semihard 3L 4s
18\59 366.102 833.898 13:5 2.600 Unnamed golden tuning (366.2564 ¢)
11\36 366.667 833.333 8:3 2.667
15\49 367.347 832.653 11:4 2.750
4\13 369.231 830.769 3:1 3.000 Hard 3L 4s
13\42 371.429 828.571 10:3 3.333
9\29 372.414 827.586 7:2 3.500 Sephiroth
14\45 373.333 826.667 11:3 3.667
5\16 375.000 825.000 4:1 4.000 Superhard 3L 4s
11\35 377.143 822.857 9:2 4.500 Muggles
6\19 378.947 821.053 5:1 5.000 Magic
7\22 381.818 818.182 6:1 6.000 Würschmidt ↓
1\3 400.000 800.000 1:0 → ∞ Collapsed 3L 4s