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== [[1edo]] ==
== [[1edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' The framework for all other EDOs. As it offers only 2-limit consonance, all notes belong to the same pitch class, and this can get boring pretty quickly, though admittedly not as boring as if you only had one note to play.
: '''Aura:''' The framework for all other EDOs. As it offers only 2-limit consonance, all notes belong to the same pitch class, and this can get boring pretty quickly, though admittedly not as boring as if you only had one note to play.
: '''Nicolai:''' The harmony of the cavemen.
: '''Nicolai:''' The harmony of the cavemen.
: '''Keenan:''' People ought to write more 2-limit music. (Or not.)
: '''Keenan:''' People ought to write more 2-limit music. (Or not.)
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== [[2edo]] ==
== [[2edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' This EDO is very simple, offering only the perfect consonance of the octave and perfect dissonance of the tritone. The brute force contrast between the antitonic (my name for the diatonic function of pitches located at or around 600 cents away from the tonic) and the tonic does make for good minimalistic harmonic progression, but to use this to its maximum potential requires some of the same techniques needed to master traditional music theory's Locrian mode, and even then, this EDO's limited note palette only ensures that it gets boring rather quickly.
: '''Aura:''' This EDO is very simple, offering only the perfect consonance of the octave and perfect dissonance of the tritone. The brute force contrast between the antitonic (my name for the diatonic function of pitches located at or around 600 cents away from the tonic) and the tonic does make for good minimalistic harmonic progression, but to use this to its maximum potential requires some of the same techniques needed to master traditional music theory's Locrian mode, and even then, this EDO's limited note palette only ensures that it gets boring rather quickly.
: '''Bozu:''' 0th order diminished. Nothing interesting, too constrained.
: '''Bozu:''' 0th order diminished. Nothing interesting, too constrained.
: '''Nicolai:''' The worse harmony of the cavemen.
: '''Nicolai:''' The worse harmony of the cavemen.
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== [[3edo]] ==
== [[3edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' This EDO is also quite simple, and relies on the perfect consonance of the octave to obtain resolution, with the dominant harmony consisting only of the two steps surrounding the octave. Like with 2edo, 3edo does make for good minimalistic harmonic progression, but to use it to its maximum potential requires serious skills, and its limited note palette again ensures that it gets boring rather quickly.
: '''Aura:''' This EDO is also quite simple, and it relies on the perfect consonance of the octave to obtain resolution, with the dominant harmony consisting only of the two steps surrounding the octave. Like with 2edo, 3edo does make for good minimalistic harmonic progression, but to use it to its maximum potential requires serious skills, and its limited note palette again ensures that it gets boring rather quickly.
: '''Bozu:''' Elemental augmented type tuning. Fun for a minute or two, boring after that. Sounds augmented no matter what you play.
: '''Bozu:''' Elemental augmented type tuning. Fun for a minute or two, boring after that. Sounds augmented no matter what you play.
: '''Nicolai:''' Augmented chord.
: '''Nicolai:''' Augmented chord.
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== [[4edo]] ==
== [[4edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' This EDO is twice as complicated as 2edo, but no more than that. Again, it relies on the perfect consonance of the octave to obtain any type of resolution, and the brute force contrast between the antitonic and the tonic makes for good minimalistic harmonic progression. This time, however, the pitch directly above the tonic can be used in conjunction with the tonic and the octave to create a surprisingly decent tonic chord- more or less the exact means of obtaining resolution in the strictest forms of traditional music theory's Locrian mode. However, given that there are only two other pitch classes to work with, a chord like this is best saved for the end of a piece. Unlike 2edo, 4edo has more of a melodic structure to work with, but again, this requires skills, and this EDO is liable to get boring rather quickly in the hands of an unskilled composer.
: '''Aura:''' This EDO is twice as complicated as 2edo, but no more than that. Again, it relies on the perfect consonance of the octave to obtain any type of resolution, and the brute force contrast between the antitonic and the tonic makes for good minimalistic harmonic progression. This time, however, the pitch directly above the tonic can be used in conjunction with the tonic and the octave to create a surprisingly decent tonic chord- more or less the exact means of obtaining resolution in the strictest forms of traditional music theory's Locrian mode. However, given that there are only two other pitch classes to work with, a chord like this is best saved for the end of a piece. Unlike 2edo, 4edo has more of a melodic structure to work with, but again, this requires skills, and this EDO is liable to get boring rather quickly in the hands of an unskilled composer.
: '''Bozu:''' Elemental diminished type tuning. Fun for a minute or two, boring after that. Sounds diminished no matter what you play.
: '''Bozu:''' Elemental diminished type tuning. Fun for a minute or two, boring after that. Sounds diminished no matter what you play.
: '''Nicolai:''' Diminished chord. It, surprisingly, has interesting melodic movement despite only being four notes.
: '''Nicolai:''' Diminished chord. It, surprisingly, has interesting melodic movement despite only being four notes.
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== [[5edo]] ==
== [[5edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' This EDO is the smallest one commonly used, and is the first one that allows the usage of the fifth above the tonic as part of a resolved tonic harmony, though this admittedly sounds dirty, and furthermore the note a fifth above the dominant acts more like a second than a third in this case. Thankfully, this EDO doesn't take as much skill to work with as the previous three EDOs, and it is not quite as dissonant in terms of its note palette either. Beyond this, and the fact that it provides the framework for the varicant and contravaricant functions, I can't say much more about this EDO than what has already been said by others who have used it, as the only reason I know anything beyond what I've mentioned here is due to observations of others' work on this EDO.
: '''Aura:''' This EDO is the smallest one commonly used and is the first one that allows the usage of the fifth above the tonic as part of a resolved tonic harmony, though this admittedly sounds dirty, and furthermore the note a fifth above the dominant acts more like a second than a third in this case. Thankfully, this EDO doesn't take as much skill to work with as the previous three EDOs, and it is not quite as dissonant in terms of its note palette either. Beyond this, and the fact that it provides the framework for the varicant and contravaricant functions, I can't say much more about this EDO than what has already been said by others who have used it, as the only reason I know anything beyond what I've mentioned here is due to observations of others' work on this EDO.
: '''Bozu:''' Elemental hyperpent. You can actually play a couple of melodies in the tuning, but it gets exhausted after an hour or two. Good tuning for percussive-melodic instruments like gamelan, woodblock, etc., but it can get grating on its own.
: '''Bozu:''' Elemental hyperpent. You can actually play a couple of melodies in the tuning, but it gets exhausted after an hour or two. Good tuning for percussive-melodic instruments like gamelan, woodblock, etc., but it can get grating on its own.
: '''Nicolai:''' Equipentatonic. Nothing too original.
: '''Nicolai:''' Equipentatonic. Nothing too original.
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== [[6edo]] ==
== [[6edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' This EDO requires a mixture of the aforementioned techniques for 2edo and 3edo for proper harmonizing. I'd really like to see someone take on this challenge, especially as there are more options for this EDO than for either 2edo or 3edo- particularly in the realm of melody.
: '''Aura:''' This EDO requires a mixture of the aforementioned techniques for 2edo and 3edo for proper harmonizing, along with knowledge of the whole tone scale from 12edo, as that scale is exactly what this EDO is. I'd really like to see someone take on this challenge, especially as there are more options for this EDO than for either 2edo or 3edo- particularly in the realm of melody.
: '''Bozu:''' Smallest 2nd order tuning set - augmented in whole steps. There are a number of possibilities, but trying to create any sort of tonal movement is useless, modality is useless, and overall, it's overconstrained.
: '''Bozu:''' Smallest 2nd order tuning set - augmented in whole steps. There are a number of possibilities, but trying to create any sort of tonal movement is useless, modality is useless, and overall, it's overconstrained.
: '''Nicolai:''' Whole tone scale. Take out 4\6 and you have a pentatonic subset of the lydian dominant scale.
: '''Nicolai:''' Whole tone scale. Take out 4\6 and you have a pentatonic subset of the lydian dominant scale.
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: '''Fumica:''' Whole tone scale.  
: '''Fumica:''' Whole tone scale.  
: '''Vector:''' Whole tone scale. It's interesting because it has basically all the basic consonances of 12edo except the fifths. I usually end up harmonizing with tritones; it doesn't even sound that dissonant because I'm already using the wholetone scale.
: '''Vector:''' Whole tone scale. It's interesting because it has basically all the basic consonances of 12edo except the fifths. I usually end up harmonizing with tritones; it doesn't even sound that dissonant because I'm already using the wholetone scale.
: '''MisterShafXen:''' Augmented in whole tones. So much missing.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.
: '''Budjarn Lambeth:''' Lends itself to meditative, minimalist music: music where rhythm and timbre are the source of most of the interest, while melody and harmony are repetitive and change by small increments, forcing the listener to pay close attention to the most subtle changes.


== [[7edo]] ==
== [[7edo]] ==
: '''ArrowHead:''' I find 7edo to be great for blowing people's minds since it completely eliminates any concept of "minor" or "major" in the diatonic scale. Everything is neutral.
: '''ArrowHead:''' I find 7edo to be great for blowing people's minds since it completely eliminates any concept of "minor" or "major" in the diatonic scale. Everything is neutral.
: '''Aura:''' This EDO provides the framework for all the diatonic functions and most of the paradiatonic functions. Beyond that, the fact that all triads are essentially neutral in this EDO, and the fact that this EDO supports Amity, I have very little to comment on.
: '''Aura:''' This EDO provides the framework for all the diatonic functions and most of the paradiatonic functions. Beyond that, the fact that all triads are essentially neutral in this EDO, and the fact that this EDO supports Amity, I have very little to comment on.
: '''Bozu:''' Elemental hypopent. The experience here is sort of like playing in 5edo, but it's more like a tuning where you have one complete scale to play with. For me, this is the smallest edo with which I would consider composing. But it's still overconstrained when it comes to trying to modulate anything.
: '''Bozu:''' Elemental hypopent. The experience here is sort of like playing in 5edo, but it's more like a tuning where you have one complete scale to play with. For me, this is the smallest edo with which I would consider composing. But it's still overconstrained when it comes to trying to modulate anything.
: '''Nicolai:''' Equiheptatonic. Again, nothing too original.
: '''Nicolai:''' Equiheptatonic. Again, nothing too original.
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== [[8edo]] ==
== [[8edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' The only things I knew for a fact about this EDO going in were from my understanding of 4edo- namely that the same techniques available in 4edo are also viable here, with the added bonus of being able to use the Locrian-style tonic harmony in other ways due to there being more available pitch contrasts. It is true that one has to omit the fifth from most chords for harmony in this EDO to be useful, but I have to say I was pleasantly surprised when I found out not only that the antitonic harmony could now be fortified with what is effectively a supermajor third rather than simply another instance of the tonic, but also that the pitch immediately above the antitonic could serve as a good set-up for the antitonic harmony thanks to also having this same supermajor third above the root in the form of the tonic itself. Suffice to say I now have a new xenharmonic trick up my sleeve.
: '''Aura:''' The only things I knew for a fact about this EDO going in were from my understanding of 4edo- namely that the same techniques available in 4edo are also viable here, with the added bonus of being able to use the Locrian-style tonic harmony in other ways due to there being more available pitch contrasts. It is true that one has to omit the fifth from most chords for harmony in this EDO to be useful, but I have to say I was pleasantly surprised when I found out not only that the antitonic harmony could now be fortified with what is effectively a supermajor third rather than simply another instance of the tonic, but also that the pitch immediately above the antitonic could serve as a good set-up for the antitonic harmony thanks to also having this same supermajor third above the root in the form of the tonic itself. Suffice to say I now have a new xenharmonic trick up my sleeve.
: '''Bozu:''' kind of a cool diminished scale, but it suffers from the same problems as other drone-like edo's, in terms of options and constraints.
: '''Bozu:''' kind of a cool diminished scale, but it suffers from the same problems as other drone-like edo's, in terms of options and constraints.
: '''Nicolai:''' First EDO with some kind of quarter tone interval.
: '''Nicolai:''' First EDO with some kind of quarter tone interval.
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== [[9edo]] ==
== [[9edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' The only things I know for a fact about this EDO come from my understanding of 3edo, as the same techniques available in 3edo are also viable here. However, I can't say much about the other aspects of this EDO due to lack of other relevant experience on my part.
: '''Aura:''' The only things I know for a fact about this EDO come from my understanding of 3edo, as the same techniques available in 3edo are also viable here. Listening to others' antidiatonic scales in this EDO does have my curiosity peaked, but at the same time, the lack of a good fifth is a turn-off for me.
: '''Bozu:''' 3rd order augmented scale. I want to like this tuning, but I can't see any value in it beyond noodling.
: '''Bozu:''' 3rd order augmented scale. I want to like this tuning, but I can't see any value in it beyond noodling.
: '''Keenan:''' On the one hand you can treat the 667 cent intervals as 3/2, yielding an extreme version of [[mavila]] (or 7-limit [[armodue]]) which is a very acceptable tuning for pelog selisir. On the other hand you can treat it has having no 3rd harmonics, as something like a 2.5.7/3 temperament. (Treating it as a super-accurate 2.27/25.7/3 temperament makes no sense to me.) First EDO with '''recognizable''' "major" and "minor" chords.
: '''Keenan:''' On the one hand you can treat the 667 cent intervals as 3/2, yielding an extreme version of [[mavila]] (or 7-limit [[armodue]]) which is a very acceptable tuning for pelog selisir. On the other hand you can treat it has having no 3rd harmonics, as something like a 2.5.7/3 temperament. (Treating it as a super-accurate 2.27/25.7/3 temperament makes no sense to me.) First EDO with '''recognizable''' "major" and "minor" chords.
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== [[10edo]] ==
== [[10edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' With the discovery that this EDO tempers out the punctisma, and that it creates part of the structure that 24edo inherits, I'm interested in finding ways to put an approximation of this EDO to use.
: '''Bozu:''' Hyperpent with something resembling the chromatic scale. This is the smallest edo set that has anything worthwhile to offer. Constraints are within the critical range where melody, harmony, and chord changes can make some kind of sense. It's not my favourite edo, but it has its own characteristics.
: '''Bozu:''' Hyperpent with something resembling the chromatic scale. This is the smallest edo set that has anything worthwhile to offer. Constraints are within the critical range where melody, harmony, and chord changes can make some kind of sense. It's not my favourite edo, but it has its own characteristics.
: '''Nicolai:''' The first ''actually'' usable EDO. Decent chords & decent melodic ideas. Sevish's ''Vidya'' is a good example of how it can sound.
: '''Nicolai:''' The first ''actually'' usable EDO. Decent chords & decent melodic ideas. Sevish's ''Vidya'' is a good example of how it can sound.
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== [[11edo]] ==
== [[11edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' Potentially useful in terms of its pitch-hue palette due to it being every other step of 22edo- the lack of a diatonic fifth is a turn-off.
: '''Bozu:''' This one is one of the three edo's that don't really fit any distinct category, and it shows. In my opinion, it's the second most difficult to use. Lots of possibilities of notes, unlike anything smaller than 9edo, but nothing seems to sound particularly great, not that it sounds particularly awful, either.
: '''Bozu:''' This one is one of the three edo's that don't really fit any distinct category, and it shows. In my opinion, it's the second most difficult to use. Lots of possibilities of notes, unlike anything smaller than 9edo, but nothing seems to sound particularly great, not that it sounds particularly awful, either.
: '''Nicolai:''' This is probably a good example of where you should use secundal harmony rather than tertial harmony.
: '''Nicolai:''' This is probably a good example of where you should use secundal harmony rather than tertial harmony.
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== [[12edo]] ==
== [[12edo]] ==
: '''ArrowHead:''' The smallest one that does 5-limit well, and is right on the midpoint of the regular diatonic tuning spectrum, separating meantone from Parapythagorean and Superpythagorean. Has the largest possible contrast between major and minor for a meantone tuning, though since the wide major thirds and narrow minor thirds can sound quite sludgy on certain timbres such as organs I feel like 12 is far from optimal tuning for many areas of Western music. While I do feel that Western music education should cover the mathematics of tuning before college, and talk about Pythagorean tuning and other meantones to encourage Western musicians to explore other tunings and prevent people from thinking that 12 is the only correct way to tune, I do admit that these should come ''after'' people get familiar with the common practice chords and scales, and 12edo is without a doubt the best starting point for introducing stuff.
: '''ArrowHead:''' The smallest one that does 5-limit well, and is right on the midpoint of the regular diatonic tuning spectrum, separating meantone from Parapythagorean and Superpythagorean. Has the largest possible contrast between major and minor for a meantone tuning, though since the wide major thirds and narrow minor thirds can sound quite sludgy on certain timbres such as organs I feel like 12 is far from optimal tuning for many areas of Western music. While I do feel that Western music education should cover the mathematics of tuning before college, and talk about Pythagorean tuning and other meantones to encourage Western musicians to explore other tunings and prevent people from thinking that 12 is the only correct way to tune, I do admit that these should come ''after'' people get familiar with the common practice chords and scales, and 12edo is without a doubt the best starting point for introducing stuff.
: '''Aura:''' Finally! The EDO I have the most extensive experience with. All my direct, first-hand experience with 1edo, 2edo, 3edo, 4edo and 6edo prior to me finishing this page came about because I have access to a 12edo instrument- my grandmother's piano. It is also from here that I've taken the bulk of my ideas on tonality—including my idea for Treble-Down tonality. I still use this EDO as a basis for forming harmonic and melodic ideas.
: '''Aura:''' Finally! The EDO I have the most extensive experience with. All my direct, first-hand experience with 1edo, 2edo, 3edo, 4edo and 6edo prior to me finishing this page came about because I have access to a 12edo instrument- my grandmother's piano. It is also from here that I've taken the bulk of my ideas on tonality- including my idea for Treble-Down tonality. I still use this EDO as a basis for forming harmonic and melodic ideas, however, now that I've grown accustomed to having microtonal gestures available, I find it rather anemic in terms of its expressive potential.
: '''Bozu:''' Honestly, the best edo. Not too many notes, not too few. What notes are there sound great. It's the lowest composite hypopent, as well as the lowest composite of augmented and diminished. You can use it to affect major, minor, augmented, and diminished tonalities very well. The only place it truly falls short is anything beyond that. It's not too great at approximating higher order harmonics, nor does it offer any neutral intervals. It'd be sort of silly to think of a beginner musician starting with anything other than this or some form of meantone or JI that 12edo approximates.
: '''Bozu:''' Honestly, the best edo. Not too many notes, not too few. What notes are there sound great. It's the lowest composite hypopent, as well as the lowest composite of augmented and diminished. You can use it to affect major, minor, augmented, and diminished tonalities very well. The only place it truly falls short is anything beyond that. It's not too great at approximating higher order harmonics, nor does it offer any neutral intervals. It'd be sort of silly to think of a beginner musician starting with anything other than this or some form of meantone or JI that 12edo approximates.
: '''Nicolai:''' I probably shouldn't have listed this.
: '''Nicolai:''' I probably shouldn't have listed this.
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== [[13edo]] ==
== [[13edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' Has a basic oneirotonic scale, but since there's no diatonic fifth to work with when I need it, I don't want to stay here.
: '''Bozu:''' To me, this one is the most difficult edo to bend to my will. Like 11edo, it doesn't fit any category, but the tones all just sound off to me.
: '''Bozu:''' To me, this one is the most difficult edo to bend to my will. Like 11edo, it doesn't fit any category, but the tones all just sound off to me.
: '''Nicolai:''' Extremely dissonant, but at least the major chord sounds somewhat decent. Not much decent, but its better than nothing.
: '''Nicolai:''' Extremely dissonant, but at least the major chord sounds somewhat decent. Not much decent, but its better than nothing.
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== [[14edo]] ==
== [[14edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' I have to admit that I was surprised to learn from others that one can replicate dialtones in this EDO, and it was that knowledge that made me want to incorporate a 159edo-based approximation of it. Suffice to say that based on my work with said approximation, this is a pretty strange EDO overall as you don't have as much of the familiar to rely on.
: '''Aura:''' I have to admit that I was surprised to learn from others that one can replicate dialtones in this EDO, and it was that knowledge that made me want to incorporate a 159edo-based approximation of it. Suffice to say that based on my work with said approximation, this is a pretty strange EDO overall as you don't have as much of the familiar to rely on.
: '''Bozu:''' 2nd order hypopent. It's like the scale from 7edo has some different colours added to its palette. Not super easy to wield, but it does have a nice spacey sound that makes sense to the ears in a weird way.
: '''Bozu:''' 2nd order hypopent. It's like the scale from 7edo has some different colours added to its palette. Not super easy to wield, but it does have a nice spacey sound that makes sense to the ears in a weird way.
: '''Nicolai:''' Cool chords. People say that its really dissonant, but I don't hear anything out of the ordinary.
: '''Nicolai:''' Cool chords. People say that its really dissonant, but I don't hear anything out of the ordinary.
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== [[15edo]] ==
== [[15edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' I've since found that this EDO supports a variation on my traditional diatonic scale, however, tempering the 40/27 to a large tritone, as this system does, causes its fair share of problems.
: '''Bozu:''' 3rd order hyperpent, also with the augmented tonalities pasted in. Perhaps one of the most user-friendly edo's, it has a lot to offer, but also makes composers accustomed to 12edo think outside of the box.
: '''Bozu:''' 3rd order hyperpent, also with the augmented tonalities pasted in. Perhaps one of the most user-friendly edo's, it has a lot to offer, but also makes composers accustomed to 12edo think outside of the box.
: '''Nicolai:''' Probably the most popular small EDO. Great chords, good approximation of 6/5, and supports some nice temperaments. Also I kinda introduced Weigel to a Hanson keyboard, and then he made it into his keyboard, so I feel a little happy about telling him about that.
: '''Nicolai:''' Probably the most popular small EDO. Great chords, good approximation of 6/5, and supports some nice temperaments. Also I kinda introduced Weigel to a Hanson keyboard, and then he made it into his keyboard, so I feel a little happy about telling him about that.
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== [[17edo]] ==
== [[17edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' Like 14edo this EDO is pretty strange as you don't have as much of the familiar to rely on, though it does better than 12edo in some respects. Judging from my experience with the 159edo-based approximation of it, I can surmise that trying to work with Neapolitan-type scales in this EDO makes for an interesting experience.
: '''Aura:''' Like 14edo this EDO is pretty strange as you don't have as much of the familiar to rely on, though it does better than 12edo in some respects. Judging from my experience with the 159edo-based approximation of it, I can surmise that trying to work with Neapolitan-type scales in this EDO makes for an interesting experience.
: '''Bozu:''' Totally awesome composite hyperpent. Great fifths, it can sound maqam-ish or western-ish, depending on how you use it. So many possibilities.
: '''Bozu:''' Totally awesome composite hyperpent. Great fifths, it can sound maqam-ish or western-ish, depending on how you use it. So many possibilities.
: '''Nicolai:''' The smallest EDO with more consonant harmony than the previous ones.
: '''Nicolai:''' The smallest EDO with more consonant harmony than the previous ones.
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== [[22edo]] ==
== [[22edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' I have to say that judging from the 159edo-based approximation that I'm using, the pentatonic scales actually sound pretty good, but the fact that this EDO forces its users to explore unfamiliar harmonic territory is a double-edged sword.
: '''ArrowHead294:''' Basically the opposite of meantone (specifically [[31edo]]) when it comes to 5 vs. 7, since you find 7/6 subminor thirds in places where you'd normally expect 6/5 minor thirds and 9/7 supermajor thirds where you'd expect 5/4 major thirds. A great way to break out of the meantone way of thinking for most people, and probably the most optimal and practical tuning for [[superpythagorean]] temperament. Minor sevenths being 7/4 makes septimal harmony easy to reach and is a really cool effect IMO. However, although the 5-limit minor and major thirds are tuned closer to JI than in 12edo, the minor third is sharp instead of flat and the major third is flat instead of sharp, which gives 5-limit chords a lot of "zonk" to them.
: '''Aura:''' I have to say that judging from the 159edo-based approximation that I'm using, the pentatonic scales actually sound pretty good, but the fact that this EDO forces its users to explore unfamiliar harmonic territory is a double-edged sword, and the diatonic fifth that this system offers is more like a 128/85 than a 3/2.
: '''Bozu:''' Excellent composite hyperpent tuning. Tons and tons of possibilities with western-esque and raga-esque tones. Notation starts getting more difficult than 17edo or 19edo.
: '''Bozu:''' Excellent composite hyperpent tuning. Tons and tons of possibilities with western-esque and raga-esque tones. Notation starts getting more difficult than 17edo or 19edo.
: '''Nicolai:''' Smallest cool superpyth EDO. I think there's orwell in there, too, but don't quote me on that.
: '''Nicolai:''' Smallest cool superpyth EDO. I think there's orwell in there, too, but don't quote me on that.
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== [[24edo]] ==
== [[24edo]] ==
: '''ArrowHead:''' For a while, 24 was the only microtonal tuning I ever knew about. It's very convenient as a microtonal tuning, since it's meantone and preserves all the familiar intervals of 12edo. The ability to use the 11th and 13th harmonics and their intervals (without 7) as consonances is a huge bonus. Also supports semaphore with alternating whole steps and quarter tones, allowing for tons of new progressions and modulatory possibilities. Unfortunately it's far from the ''best'' tuning to get into for introducing microtonality, since it doesn't do 7 well at all, though, and I've found that most Westerners consider the sound of 11/8 and 13/8 to be much weirder compared to 7/4.
: '''ArrowHead:''' For a while, 24 was the only microtonal tuning I ever knew about. It's very convenient as a microtonal tuning, since it's meantone and preserves all the familiar intervals of 12edo. The ability to use the 11th and 13th harmonics and their intervals (without 7) as consonances is a huge bonus. Also supports semaphore with alternating whole steps and quarter tones, allowing for tons of new progressions and modulatory possibilities. Unfortunately it's far from the ''best'' tuning to get into for introducing microtonality, since it doesn't do 7 well at all, though, and I've found that most Westerners consider the sound of 11/8 and 13/8 to be much weirder compared to 7/4.
: '''Aura:''' This EDO served as my first personal foray into the world of microtonality.  It is also from here that I learned a good chunk of what I know about the 11-limit.
: '''Aura:''' This EDO served as my first personal foray into the world of microtonality- namely through my song "[[:File:Folly of a Drunk.mp3|Folly of a Drunk]]".  It is also from here that I learned a good chunk of what I know about the 11-limit, and given its telic fifth inherited from 12edo, it still holds a place in my musical practice.  However, while its pitch-hue palette is richer than that of 12edo, and I've finally settled on an interpretation of my signature simul half cadence for this system, I still feel the need to branch out some.
: '''Bozu:''' This is where almost everyone outside of the xenharmonic community sends their minds when you mention "microtonal music." It's used in traditional maqam music. I've personally used it myself a bit, but, in my opinion, what gets added to 12edo is fairly limited. It opens up a couple of new worlds of a few consonant intervals that play really well with familiar ones, and also some really skunky dissonant ones that drive the neighbours crazy. But it's definitely not what I recommend for beginning a journey into alternative tuning.
: '''Bozu:''' This is where almost everyone outside of the xenharmonic community sends their minds when you mention "microtonal music." It's used in traditional maqam music. I've personally used it myself a bit, but, in my opinion, what gets added to 12edo is fairly limited. It opens up a couple of new worlds of a few consonant intervals that play really well with familiar ones, and also some really skunky dissonant ones that drive the neighbours crazy. But it's definitely not what I recommend for beginning a journey into alternative tuning.
: '''Nicolai:''' 12EDO, but fancy.
: '''Nicolai:''' 12EDO, but fancy.
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== [[27edo]] ==
== [[27edo]] ==
: '''ArrowHead:''' Basically the opposite of meantone (specifically [[19edo]]) when it comes to 5 vs. 7 (you find 7/6 in places where you'd normally expect 6/5 and 9/7 where you'd expect 5/4). Criminally underrated and underutilised for what it is. Fifths are very bright and shimmery but not wolf-sounding like 5edo is. Its 5-limit minor and major thirds are more familiar and forgiving than 22edo, and it has a very good 13th harmonic. Overall a great place to explore xenharmony with temperaments like Tetracot.
: '''ArrowHead:''' Similar to 22edo, 27 is basically the opposite of meantone (specifically [[19edo]]) when it comes to 5 vs. 7, with subminor and supermajor thirds and sixths in places where minor and major thirds and sixths usually are. Criminally underrated and underutilised for what it is. Fifths are very bright and shimmery but not wolf-sounding like 5edo is. Its 5-limit minor and major thirds are more familiar and forgiving than 22edo, and it has a very good 13th harmonic. Overall a great place to explore xenharmony with temperaments like Tetracot.
: '''Aura:''' Not going to lie, given how underexplored this EDO is, I felt it necessary to try working with a 159edo-based retuning of it. Judging from my experience with that, it should suffice to say that working with Superlocrian in this EDO is another interesting experience.
: '''Aura:''' Not going to lie, given how underexplored this EDO is, I felt it necessary to try working with a 159edo-based retuning of it. Judging from my experience with that, it should suffice to say that working with Superlocrian in this EDO is another interesting experience.
: '''Bozu:''' Comte hyperpent. Another one with tons of usable tonal possibilities that seems to get little actual use.
: '''Bozu:''' Comte hyperpent. Another one with tons of usable tonal possibilities that seems to get little actual use.
: '''Nicolai:''' Amazing approximations of intervals like 7/6, 6/5, 5/4 (but its the same as 12EDO), 3/2, 5/3, and 7/4. Its weird how it manages to work this much with being a power of 3.
: '''Nicolai:''' Amazing approximations of intervals like 7/6, 6/5, 5/4 (but its the same as 12EDO), 3/2, 5/3, and 7/4. Its weird how it manages to work this much with being a power of 3.
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== [[31edo]] ==
== [[31edo]] ==
: '''ArrowHead:''' The second alternative tuning I knew about after 24edo, I got interested in it through Baroque and Renaissance music due to it being an excellent representation of quarter-comma meantone. Personally, I think this is the best alternative tuning for most non-classical Western musicians to use. Since everything sounds more mellow and calm compared to 12, I think that many, if not most, contemporary worship songs would sound better in 31 compared to 12. I also think it's a better tuning for songs with largely pentatonic melodies, such as Hillsong's ''Highlands'', than 12edo is, since the pentatonic scale is noticeably tighter. The number of notes is not overly unwieldy (though it is pushing the limits of practicality on guitars and basses, it's still doable for chords), and the differences between its sound and 12edo's sound are big enough that people will notice (and therefore they might actually care) but not so big that it sounds jarring like 19edo can be (and often is). It also allows many interesting symmetry breaks and comma pumps over 12 that to me are an extremely interesting effect. If A is still 440 Hz, to me, keys from A major and F♯ minor onwards among the sharps sound noticeably darker in 31 and more energetic in 12, D and G major and their relative minor keys sound similar, while flat keys sound noticeably brighter in 31 and more "serious" in 12.
: '''ArrowHead:''' The second alternative tuning I knew about after 24edo, I got interested in it through Baroque and Renaissance music due to it being an excellent representation of quarter-comma meantone that offers good approximations to all intervals of 11 (and even a few involving 13). Personally, I think this is the best alternative tuning for most non-classical Western musicians to use. Since everything sounds more mellow and calm compared to 12, I think that many, if not most, contemporary worship songs would sound better in 31 compared to 12. I also think it's a better tuning for songs with largely pentatonic melodies, such as Hillsong's ''Highlands'', than 12edo is, since the pentatonic scale is noticeably tighter. The number of notes is not overly unwieldy (though it is pushing the limits of practicality on guitars and basses, it's still doable for chords), and the differences between its sound and 12edo's sound are big enough that people will notice (and therefore they might actually care) but not so big that it sounds jarring like 19edo can be (and often is). It also allows many interesting symmetry breaks and comma pumps over 12 that to me are an extremely interesting effect. If A is still 440 Hz, to me, keys from A major and F♯ minor onwards among the sharps sound noticeably darker in 31 and more energetic in 12, D and G major and their relative minor keys sound similar, while flat keys sound noticeably brighter in 31 and more "serious" in 12. Great for temperaments like [[Orwell]] that allow for easy exploration of more exotic harmonies.
: '''Aura:''' Working with Superlocrian in this EDO is again interesting, but it's easier to do with this EDO than with 27edo.
: '''Aura:''' Working with Superlocrian in this EDO is again interesting, but it's easier to do with this EDO than with 27edo.  Apart from that, I'm not too thrilled with the lack of the telic fifth, nor the nature of this tuning system's approximation of the 11-prime.
: '''Bozu:''' This is sort of the gold standard of meantone tuning. Composite hypopent. Great thirds and fifths and everything else used to make western-esque music, and also some really nifty other spicier options. Very user-friendly. If you start with 12edo and go to 19edo and like it, this would be the obvious next recommendation. My only complaint here is that we are starting to get into the territory of having too many notes to easily perform on a guitar or standard black-and-white-key two row keyboard. Going with subsets at this point is beneficial, but those provide new challenges.
: '''Bozu:''' This is sort of the gold standard of meantone tuning. Composite hypopent. Great thirds and fifths and everything else used to make western-esque music, and also some really nifty other spicier options. Very user-friendly. If you start with 12edo and go to 19edo and like it, this would be the obvious next recommendation. My only complaint here is that we are starting to get into the territory of having too many notes to easily perform on a guitar or standard black-and-white-key two row keyboard. Going with subsets at this point is beneficial, but those provide new challenges.
: '''Nicolai:''' Meantone quarter tones.
: '''Nicolai:''' Meantone quarter tones.
: '''Yourmusic Productions:''' It definitely sounds nice, but I don't hear much actual songwriting going on in it, just people building enormous washes of harmony and luxuriating in them. Maybe it has too LITTLE tension in it, or maybe it's just past the point of complexity that the human mind can fully comprehend. In any case, it definitely hasn't been used to it's full potential yet.
: '''Yourmusic Productions:''' It definitely sounds nice, but I don't hear much actual songwriting going on in it, just people building enormous washes of harmony and luxuriating in them. Maybe it has too LITTLE tension in it, or maybe it's just past the point of complexity that the human mind can fully comprehend. In any case, it definitely hasn't been used to it's full potential yet.
: '''Fumica:''' This is a great edo, with a tuning profile close to what I consider the optimal tuning of meantone. Too great it's a little unfun to work with. A-tier.  
: '''Fumica:''' This is a great edo. Too great it's a little unfun to work with. It has a tuning profile close to what I consider the optimal tuning of meantone, and migration, the meantone extension that maps harmonic 11 to the semi-augmented fourth, works almost perfectly in this system. Octave stretch gives better intonation. A-tier.  


== [[32edo]] ==
== [[32edo]] ==
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== [[35edo]] ==
== [[35edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' Interestingly enough, this EDO has a heptatonic scale that consists of the following steps- 5\35, 7\35, 14\35, 21\35, 26\35, 30\35, 35\35. I found this scale while trying to find a good scale to use in a 159edo-based approximation of this EDO. All in all, this particular scale has a quality mostly evocative of something akin to Dorian mode despite obvious tuning differences that seem to give a sort of middle ground between the 5edo qualities and the 7edo of this EDO. So much for some of the claims of some other microtonalists about this one...
: '''Aura:''' Interestingly enough, this EDO has a heptatonic scale that consists of the following steps- 5\35, 7\35, 14\35, 21\35, 26\35, 30\35, 35\35. I found this scale while trying to find a good scale to use in a 159edo-based approximation of this EDO. All in all, this particular scale has a quality mostly evocative of something akin to Dorian mode despite obvious tuning differences that seem to give a sort of middle ground between the 5edo qualities and the 7edo of this EDO. So much for some of the claims of some other microtonalists about this one...
: '''Bozu:''' Smallest amphipent edo (both hyperpent and hypopent).
: '''Bozu:''' Smallest amphipent edo (both hyperpent and hypopent).
: '''Nicolai:''' You either get 5EDO or 7EDO, there is no middle.
: '''Nicolai:''' You either get 5EDO or 7EDO, there is no middle.
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== [[36edo]] ==
== [[36edo]] ==
: '''ArrowHead:''' This is a great microtonal tuning which is also a great gateway into microtonality for Western musicians. Has true harmonic sevenths, along with very accurate and distinct approximations to septimal subminor and supermajor thirds and sixths. Since the 7th harmonic and all of its intervals are all pretty much variations on familiar intervals, from my experience many people consider the sound of the new intervals in 36edo to be more forgiving, whereas the "new" intervals in 24edo tend to sound much more jarring and weird in comparison.
: '''ArrowHead:''' This is a great microtonal tuning which is also a great gateway into microtonality for Western musicians. Has true harmonic sevenths, along with very accurate and distinct approximations to septimal subminor and supermajor thirds and sixths. Since the 7th harmonic and all of its intervals are all pretty much variations on familiar intervals, from my experience many people consider the sound of the new intervals in 36edo to be more forgiving, whereas the "new" intervals in 24edo tend to sound much more jarring and weird in comparison.
: '''Aura:''' I keep hearing about how this EDO has a good 7-limit, but given that the fifth is not telic, and the fact that there's no good 11-prime, I'm not inclined to use this EDO outside of approximations.
: '''Bozu:''' 12edo slashed into thirds.
: '''Bozu:''' 12edo slashed into thirds.
: '''Nicolai:''' 12EDO, but better.
: '''Nicolai:''' 12EDO, but better.
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: '''Bozu:''' Hyperpent augmented with a lot of notes.
: '''Bozu:''' Hyperpent augmented with a lot of notes.
: '''Nicolai:''' You either get mavila or superpyth, there is no middle.
: '''Nicolai:''' You either get mavila or superpyth, there is no middle.
: '''Fumica:''' 1/5-comma quasisuper, most notable for tuning the minor second to 28/27 (with the 39d val) which I feel is where the tension peaks for voice leading. Such an overlooked system despite being similar to 27edo in many ways. B-tier.


== [[40edo]] ==
== [[40edo]] ==
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== [[41edo]] ==
== [[41edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' Using Ultralocrian mode in this EDO is a challenge, but apparently quite well worth it.
: '''Aura:''' Using Ultralocrian mode in this EDO is a challenge, but apparently quite well worth it.  It's tendencies to temper 15/11 and 27/20 together and similarly tempering their octave complements together make for giving my traditional diatonic music an unexpected edge, however, the lack of a telic fifth means this system is just not for me.
: '''Bozu:''' Lots of notes, but all of the bases seem to be covered. Probably the only edo between 35 and 49 worth all of the trouble of dealing with so many notes.
: '''Bozu:''' Lots of notes, but all of the bases seem to be covered. Probably the only edo between 35 and 49 worth all of the trouble of dealing with so many notes.
: '''Nicolai:''' Smaller version of 53EDO.
: '''Nicolai:''' Smaller version of 53EDO.
: '''Fumica:''' The first of the five essential comma-level edos, and the first edo to achieve 9-odd-limit distinction and consistency. This is most significant for providing three flavors for each chromatic category: classical, Pythagorean, and septimal. In this case it is a schismic and garischismic system, so that all three kinds are separated by the same comma step and can be found on a stack of fifths. The comma step is somewhat larger than just, making the differences more pronounced, which is part of why I think this edo is pretty deep – the step isn't only a comma, but many things at once, including but not limited to the septimal dieses, as well as the chroma of the archaeotonic scale, the scale of Tetracot[7]. The best subgroup of this edo is, actually, 2.3.5.7.11.19. Prime 13 is certainly plausible, but prime 19 fits way better. There's a unique uniform tuning for the harmonic segment 18::22, a fact related to the vanish of s10 = 100/99 and s9/s11 = 243/242. The beauty of this edo goes even beyond the structure, but also to the intonation: it has a very slightly sharp 3 and a more noticeably flat 5, making a flat, more stable 15; that is ideal for my music. Finally, it's an ideal tuning for the magic temperament. I can't compliment it enough. S-tier.


== [[42edo]] ==
== [[42edo]] ==
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: '''Bozu:''' Hypopent composite. Looks great on paper, but is a lot of notes and is either difficult to use or perhaps not as good in practice as it ought to be.
: '''Bozu:''' Hypopent composite. Looks great on paper, but is a lot of notes and is either difficult to use or perhaps not as good in practice as it ought to be.
: '''Nicolai:''' The other step-sibling of meantone.
: '''Nicolai:''' The other step-sibling of meantone.
: '''Fumica:''' 1/5-comma meantone, not a bad meantone tuning in the 5-limit. The 3 and 5 are equally off, making up a beautifully pure 15. Unfortunately the diesis is too small to achieve good septimal and undecimal harmony. B-tier.


== [[44edo]] ==
== [[44edo]] ==
: '''Bozu:''' Amphipent diminished.
: '''Bozu:''' Amphipent diminished.
: '''Fumica:''' This edo adds decent approximation to harmonic 13 on top of 22edo's 11-limit, which is pretty tense to start with. At this point it just all breaks down. D-tier.


== [[45edo]] ==
== [[45edo]] ==
: '''Bozu:''' Amphipent augmented.
: '''Bozu:''' Amphipent augmented.
: '''Fumica:''' The only legit edo tuning for flattone. Otherwise it has little utility. It has this weird structure of 9/8~10/9~11/10 all tempered together as a characteristic of flattone, but meanwhile the septimal comma is tuned to two steps, which feels a bit ugly. D-tier.


== [[46edo]] ==
== [[46edo]] ==
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: '''Bozu:''' Hyperpent composite. Same thing where it looks great on paper, but I feel underwhelmed noodling around with it.
: '''Bozu:''' Hyperpent composite. Same thing where it looks great on paper, but I feel underwhelmed noodling around with it.
: '''Nicolai:''' You either get 5EDO or 7EDO, but there is a middle.
: '''Nicolai:''' You either get 5EDO or 7EDO, but there is a middle.
: '''Fumica:''' The second essential comma-level edo. Five more notes than 41edo, offering the distinction of two types of neutral intervals at the cost of a narrower septimal diesis. As an eighth-tone system, it has a true quartertone. With that and all the accurate approximations, the expressive possibilities are endless. Best as a 2.3.5.7.11.17.23-subgroup temperament. A-tier.


== [[47edo]] ==
== [[47edo]] ==
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: '''Bozu:''' 12edo eighth-tones.
: '''Bozu:''' 12edo eighth-tones.
: '''Nicolai:''' 12EDO, but more fancy.
: '''Nicolai:''' 12EDO, but more fancy.
: '''Fumica:''' More appropriate as an interval category scheme than anything else. C-tier.


== [[49edo]] ==
== [[49edo]] ==
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: '''Bozu:''' This is a great option for meantone. Notations seems to be less of a pain, but 53edo is almost better in every way.
: '''Bozu:''' This is a great option for meantone. Notations seems to be less of a pain, but 53edo is almost better in every way.
: '''Nicolai:''' I consider this an optimal meantone EDO, due to a wealthy collection of notes here.
: '''Nicolai:''' I consider this an optimal meantone EDO, due to a wealthy collection of notes here.
: '''Fumica:''' Close to 2/7-comma meantone so it has a niche. Has the same problem as 45edo, though less severe. C-tier.


== [[51edo]] ==
== [[51edo]] ==
: '''Bozu:''' Not as versatile as 50edo.
: '''Bozu:''' Not as versatile as 50edo.
: '''Fumica:''' 17edo with a major third from the augmented temperament, which can be a useful combo. Otherwise it has little tone efficiency. C-tier.


== [[52edo]] ==
== [[52edo]] ==
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== [[53edo]] ==
== [[53edo]] ==
: '''ArrowHead:''' Works great as an extended Pythagorean tuning, making it well-suited for Mediæval music. Also suited for those wanting to experiment with true 5-limit JI but also having the ability to modulate without things getting too unwieldy. Turkish music theory is also based on 53edo. However, this is truly near the stopping point for physical instruments and 107 frets isn't practical for almost any real-world guitar or bass.
: '''ArrowHead:''' Works great as an extended Pythagorean tuning, making it well-suited for Mediæval music. Also suited for those wanting to experiment with true 5-limit JI but also having the ability to modulate. It is also perhaps the most optimal equal temperament tuning supporting [[Orwell]], due to its fifth being almost indistinguishable from just, the fact that it has a good approximation of the [[13/8|13<sup>th</sup> harmonic]] (which 31 does only an okay job at and 22 lacks entirely), and 84edo has so many notes that it really does get unwieldy. Turkish music theory is also based on 53edo. However, this is truly near the stopping point for physical instruments and 107 frets isn't practical for almost any real-world guitar or bass.
: '''Aura:''' Most of my experience with this EDO comes from my current experiments with 159edo, and this will likely continue to be the case since this EDO doesn't have good approximations of the 11-limit.
: '''Aura:''' Most of my experience with this EDO comes from my discovery of its admirable performiance in the 5-limit, and this will likely continue to be the case, since while it has a telic fifth, the lack of good approximations other than the 2.3.5.13 subgroup- particularly its bad 11-prime- is a turn-off, and, to be honest, I wasn't sure how to get around that issue until I discovered 159edo.
: '''Bozu:''' Generally the stopping point. If you are comfortable with >50 tones, then this tuning offers almost everything you will need. If not, stick with 31edo or something smaller.
: '''Bozu:''' Generally the stopping point. If you are comfortable with >50 tones, then this tuning offers almost everything you will need. If not, stick with 31edo or something smaller.
: '''Nicolai:''' JI: The Book.
: '''Nicolai:''' JI: The Book.
: '''Fumica:''' The third essential comma-level edo. This one is kinda overrated. The best thing about it is the distinction of 15/13 and 13/10 from nearby septimal intervals, which neither 41- nor 46edo does. What bugs me is that the fifth feels undertempered for pretty much every purpose, and while the 5-limit approximation is praiseworthy the rest deserves more love. Compared to 41- or 46edo, it feels slack and doesn't convey a sense of tightly packed well-compromisedness. B-tier.


== [[55edo]] ==
== [[55edo]] ==
: '''ArrowHead:''' A standardisation and representation of 1/6-comma meantone, proposed by Telemann as a theoretical basis for analysing the intervals of meantone. Works well for most of Western music written since the Renaissance and even works today for songs that don't presuppose 12edo's enharmonics, but in practice I think it's really best suited for certain classical works as it's gotten to the point of diminishing returns. For non-classical musicians, the sound is likely to be far too similar to 12edo to justify the significant extra complexity, especially since 43 and 50 are already pushing it.
: '''ArrowHead:''' A standardisation and representation of 1/6-comma meantone, proposed by Telemann as a theoretical basis for analysing the intervals of meantone. Works well for most of Western music written since the Renaissance and even works today for songs that don't presuppose 12edo's enharmonics, but in practice I think it's really best suited for certain classical works as it's gotten to the point of diminishing returns. For non-classical musicians, the sound is likely to be far too similar to 12edo to justify the significant extra complexity, especially since 43 and 50 are already pushing it.
: '''Fumica:''' This edo is out of the optimal range of meantone. Septimal meantone feels dumb here since we know 43edo is sharp enough. It can be used for mohaha, but that feels so similar to 24edo that I'd just go with the latter. D-tier.
== [[56edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' A hemicommatic edo with a rather messed-up tuning profile. Nothing notable about it. D-tier.
== [[58edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' The fourth essential comma-level edo. Being the first edo with full 11-odd-limit distinction, this one is easily adorable. Whereas 41edo tunes the fifth to 24 steps, this edo tunes the fourth to 24 steps, and the implication is its 2.3.5.7.13.29 subgroup is analogous to 41edo's 2.3.5.7.11.19 subgroup. This edo is best as a 2.3.5.7.11.13.29-subgroup system, but it has more to offer. Specifically, the harmonics 19 and 23 in the 58hi val are surprisingly convincing, and although the 17 doesn't blend quite well it at least looks good on paper. Everything considered, it is virtually the first full 23-limit system. All that bugs me is the minor fact that 11/8 and 7/5 are tuned too close to each other, only one comma apart. A-tier.


== [[59edo]] ==
== [[59edo]] ==
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== [[60edo]] ==
== [[60edo]] ==
: '''Bozu:''' 12edo, with each note sliced into five pieces. Not a bad option, except for the myriad of notes to navigate.
: '''Bozu:''' 12edo, with each note sliced into five pieces. Not a bad option, except for the myriad of notes to navigate.
: '''Fumica:''' This edo has a particularly problematic fifth, in that it closes after twelve steps, tempering out the Pythagorean comma. As the first thing I leave meantone is to look for a fifth that leads to a positive Pythagorean comma, this edo is clearly not my thing. C-tier.
== [[61edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' Can be used to tune modus. Otherwise not bearing much utility. D-tier.
== [[62edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' The ultimate 23-limit meantone tuning. It re-tunes harmonics 13, 17, and 19, and paves the path to the 23 from 31edo. I find these additions to 31edo's 11-limit very favorable. A-tier.
== [[63edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' Similar to 56edo, nothing notable about it. D-tier.


== [[65edo]] ==
== [[65edo]] ==
: '''Bozu:''' There are so many tonal options, but many of them are very useful. Maybe this could rival 53edo for versatility. There are some limitations, though.
: '''Bozu:''' There are so many tonal options, but many of them are very useful. Maybe this could rival 53edo for versatility. There are some limitations, though.
: '''Fumica:''' As every other step of 130edo, this edo is excellent in the 2.3.5.11.19.23-subgroup, but the contrast between that and the poor approximations to 7 and 13 is fatal. Still, it allows a dual-7 dual-13 approach, not very satisfying at this level but better than nothing. C-tier.
== [[67edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' A disastrous meantone tuning. F-tier.
== [[68edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' While this edo contains 17edo and if we compare it with 51edo, it clearly hits more harmonic targets, it should be noted that linearly dividing the steps into four is a weaker move than into two or three, as quarter-step offsets don't tend to create new categories, unlike third- or half-step offsets. This is especially true of this edo, as 34edo hits lots of harmonic targets already. Another obvious flaw is the awkward situation with prime 11. C-tier.
== [[70edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' As every other step of 140edo, this edo's structure allows lots of niche uses. Unfortunately none of them is interesting enough to make me stay very long. C-tier.


== [[72edo]] ==
== [[72edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' While I don't recall making many songs with this EDO, I did compile a private list of Just Intervals, and I was quite fascinated with it for a time, as this EDO has better 5-limit and 7-limit approximations than both 12edo and 24edo.
: '''Aura:''' While I don't recall making many songs with this EDO, I did compile a private list of Just Intervals, and I was quite fascinated with it for a time, as this EDO has better 5-limit and 7-limit approximations than both 12edo and 24edo, with the latter being inherited from 36edo.  However, the fifth is not telic, which is a problem for me in its own right.
: '''Fumica:''' The last essential comma-level edo. Has the same problem as 60edo. Even tho it approximates JI way better and thus qualifies for an essential comma-level edo, most of its structural features have been provided by 41- and 58edo. B-tier.
 
== [[73edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' A strange sharp-tending hemicommatic system that seems to allow some niche uses. C-tier.
 
== [[74edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' A good meantone tuning. Not much else to offer. D-tier.
 
== [[75edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' A good tetracot tuning. Otherwise nothing notable. D-tier.
 
== [[77edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' This edo is very sophisticated and hard to evaluate. It's an ideal tuning for the valentine temperament, obviously. It also seems to be capable of somewhat approximating the full 23-limit. Overall, the structure is a tight fit, with lots of quirks, but that's not too troublesome – they may as well be turned into advantages in the right circumstances. B-tier.
 
== [[79edo]] ==
: '''Fumica:''' A disastrous non-meantone tuning. F-tier.  


== [[84edo]] ==
== [[84edo]] ==
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== [[94edo]] ==
== [[94edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' Surprisingly, I have attempted to use this EDO before, and it is the first EDO I've attempted to use that wasn't some kind of superset of 12edo. I've noticed just from working out the JI intervals that this EDO approximates that the 7-limit for this edo is really good- better than what this edo has to offer in the 5-limit. Furthermore, all of the pitches in this edo are connected by a single, complicated circle of fifths. It is from working with this EDO that I learned the ways that the paradiatonic prime-limits (that would be the 7-limit, the 11-limit, and the 13-limit) are connected with each other.
: '''Aura:''' Surprisingly, I have attempted to use this EDO before, and it is the first EDO I've attempted to use that wasn't some kind of superset of 12edo. I've noticed just from working out the JI intervals that this EDO approximates that the 7-limit for this EDO is really good- better than what this EDO has to offer in the 5-limit. Furthermore, all of the pitches in this EDO are connected by a single, complicated circle of fifths. It is from working with this EDO that I learned the ways that the paradiatonic prime-limits (that would be the 7-limit, the 11-limit, and the 13-limit) are connected with each other.


== [[120edo]] ==
== [[120edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' Just like with 72edo, I don't recall making many songs with this EDO, but again, I did compile a private list of Just Intervals, and I was quite fascinated with it for a time. However, I eventually learned that you can't make a proper diatonic scale in this EDO without dealing with serious inconsistency in the 3-limit, and it was at that point that I realized that inconsistency in the 3-limit was a problem.
: '''Aura:''' Just like with 72edo, I don't recall making many songs with this EDO, but again, I did compile a private list of JI intervals that this system approximates, and I was quite fascinated with it for a time. However, I eventually learned that you can't make a proper diatonic scale in this EDO without dealing with serious inconsistency in the 3-limit, and it was at that point that I realized that inconsistency in the 3-limit was a problem, which ultimately led to my formulation of telicity.


== [[159edo]] ==
== [[159edo]] ==
: '''Aura:''' This is the best EDO I've worked with, hands down. After finishing the list of JI equivalents of the various steps of this EDO, I have since found that not only is 159edo very good for those who like to make more just versions of the more familiar kinds of things you see in 24edo, but is also very capable of approximating the steps of many lower EDOs within five cents, making for some decent retunings of some of the more commonly used EDOs such as 22edo, 31edo, and even 41edo. Based on this discovery alone, and the fact that I managed to pull off multiple songs that people really seem to like- namely "[[:File:Space Tour.mp3|Space Tour]]" and "[[:File:Welcome to Dystopia.mp3|Welcome to Dystopia]]"- I'd have to say that 159edo is not just a superset of 53edo, but rather, an EDO that is quite full of surprises. I imagine at this point that some would ask me why I don't just use JI, and the answer is that even an EDO in the hundreds like 159edo is considerably more simple than JI, as you have to account for a lot of unnoticeable commas in JI- a near-pointless endeavor as virtually nobody can hear such small differences in pitch.
: '''Aura:''' This is the main system I use in writing microtonal music. After finishing the list of JI equivalents of the various steps of this EDO, I have since found that not only is 159edo very good for those who like to make more just versions of the quartertone-based intervals you see in 24edo, but is also very capable of approximating the steps of many lower EDOs within five cents, making for some decent retunings of some of the more commonly used EDOs such as 22edo, 31edo, and even 41edo, which was part of the premise of "[[:File:Space Tour.mp3|Space Tour]]". Based on this discovery alone, I'd have to say that 159edo is not just a superset of 53edo, but rather, an EDO that is quite full of potential.  However, the fact is that this EDO is consistent all the way up to the 17-limit, and has a good 23-prime, and, should you skip the 17-prime, you have access to a decent 19-prime and 29-prime.  This, and the fact that one has access to a bunch of microtemperaments in this EDO, all for a step-size that's slightly above the average JND, means I can also perform other tricks in composition. I imagine at this point that some would ask me why I don't just use JI, and the answer is that even an EDO in the hundreds like 159edo is considerably more simple than JI, as you have to account for a lot of unnoticeable commas in JI- a near-pointless endeavor as virtually nobody can hear such small differences in pitch.


== Sources ==
== Sources ==
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* [[User:Aura/Aura's EDO Impressions|Aura's EDO Impressions]]
* [[User:Aura/Aura's EDO Impressions|Aura's EDO Impressions]]
* [[Bozu's opinions of various edos]]
* [[Bozu's opinions of various edos]]
* [[User:CritDeathX/Sam's EDO Impressions|Nicolai's EDO Impressions]]
* [[User:Flirora/EDO_impressions]]
* [[User:Flirora/EDO_impressions]]
* [[User:FloraC/Fumica's edo impressions|Fumica's edo impressions]]
* [[Keenan's EDO impressions]]
* [[Keenan's EDO impressions]]
* [[Mike's EDO impressions]]
* [[Mike's EDO impressions]]
* [[User:CritDeathX/Sam's EDO Impressions|Nicolai's EDO Impressions]]
* [https://sevish.com/2022/sevishs-scale-impressions/ Sevish's scale impressions] (''external site, Sevish.com'')
* [[Yourmusic Productions' opinion of various edos]]
* [[Yourmusic Productions' opinion of various edos]]
* [[User:FloraC/Fumica's edo impressions|Fumica's edo impressions]]


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