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=== Overview to extensions ===
=== Overview to extensions ===
==== Full 7-limit extensions ====
==== Full 7-limit extensions ====
To the gamelisma itself we need to add the comma which appears next on the modified [[Normal lists #Normal interval list|normal comma list]] for the full 7-limit. The second comma on the list for mothra is [[81/80]], for rodan [[245/243]], for guiron [[32805/32768]], for gorgo [[36/35]], and for gidorah [[256/245]]. These all use ~8/7 as a generator, though in the case of gidorah that is the same as ~6/5.  
To the gamelisma itself we need to add the comma which appears next on the modified [[Normal lists #Normal interval list|normal comma list]] for the full 7-limit. The second comma on the list for mothra is [[81/80]], for rodan [[245/243]], for guiron [[32805/32768]], for gorgo [[36/35]], and for gidorah [[256/245]]. These all use ~8/7 as a generator, though in the case of gidorah that is the same as ~[[6/5]].  


Miracle adds [[33075/32768]] and uses the [[secor]], half an ~8/7, as generator. Lemba adds [[525/512]] to the list, and has a half-octave [[period]]. Valentine adds [[6144/6125]] with a generator of ~21/20 and superkleismic adds [[875/864]] with a generator of ~6/5. Unidec adds [[4375/4374]], and has a generator of ~10/9 with a half-octave period. Hemithirds adds [[65625/65536]] with a generator half of a classical major third. Finally, tritikleismic adds [[15625/15552]] and has a generator of 6/5 with a 1/3-octave period.
Miracle adds [[33075/32768]] and uses the [[secor]], half an ~8/7, as generator. Lemba adds [[525/512]] to the list, and has a half-octave [[period]]. Valentine adds [[6144/6125]] with a generator of ~[[21/20]] and superkleismic adds [[875/864]] with a generator of ~6/5. Unidec adds [[4375/4374]], and has a generator of ~[[10/9]] with a half-octave period. Hemithirds adds [[65625/65536]] with a generator half of a classical major third. Finally, tritikleismic adds [[15625/15552]] and has a generator of 6/5 with a 1/3-octave period.


Full 7-limit temperaments discussed elsewhere are:
Full 7-limit temperaments discussed elsewhere are:
* [[Blackwood]] (+28/27) → [[Blackwood family #Blackwood|Blackwood family]]
* [[Lemba]] (+50/49) → [[Jubilismic clan #Lemba|Jubilismic clan]]
* [[Lemba]] (+50/49) → [[Jubilismic clan #Lemba|Jubilismic clan]]
* ''[[Echidnic]]'' (+686/675} → [[Diaschismic family #Echidnic|Diaschismic family]]
* [[Trisected]] (+128/125) → [[Augmented family #Trisected|Augmented family]]
* [[Blackwood]] (+28/27) → [[Limmic temperaments #Blackwood|Limmic temperaments]]
* ''[[Echidnic]]'' (+686/675) → [[Diaschismic family #Echidnic|Diaschismic family]]
* [[Trismegistus]] (+3125/3072) → [[Magic family #Trismegistus|Magic family]]
* [[Trismegistus]] (+3125/3072) → [[Magic family #Trismegistus|Magic family]]
* [[Hemithirds]] (+3136/3125) → [[Hemimean clan #Hemithirds|Hemimean clan]]
* [[Hemithirds]] (+3136/3125) → [[Hemimean clan #Hemithirds|Hemimean clan]]
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==== Subgroup extensions ====
==== Subgroup extensions ====
No-five subgroup extensions of slendric include radon, a 2.3.7.11-subgroup extension that may be viewed as no-five rodan, considered below, euslendric, a 2.3.7.13-subgroup extension, and baladic, a weak 2.3.7.13.17-subgroup extension, considered in [[#Other subgroup extensions]]. Dicussed elsewhere is [[No-fives subgroup temperaments #Gigapyth|gigapyth]] in the 2.3.7.85 subgroup.  
No-five subgroup extensions of slendric include radon, a 2.3.7.11-subgroup extension that may be viewed as no-five rodan, considered below, euslendric, a 2.3.7.13-subgroup extension, baladic, a weak 2.3.7.13.17-subgroup extension, and gigapyth, a 2.3.7.85-subgroup extension, considered in [[#Other subgroup extensions]]. Dicussed elsewhere is [[Subgroup temperaments #Trisect|trisect]] in the 2.3.7.11/5 subgroup.


=== Radon ===
=== Radon ===
{{See also|Chromatic pairs #Radon}}
Radon is the no-fives version of [[rodan]], equating the diatonic major third to [[14/11]].
Radon is the no-fives version of [[rodan]], equating the diatonic major third to [[14/11]].


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{{Main| Mothra }}
{{Main| Mothra }}


Mothra tempers out [[81/80]] and finds the prime 5 at a stack of four fifths as does any temperament in the [[meantone family]]. It also tempers out [[1728/1715]], the orwellisma. It can be described as the {{nowrap| 26 & 31 }}. Using [[31edo]] with a generator of 6/31 is an excellent tuning choice. However, a pure mos mothra scale is often described as directionless and has limited chord-building potential<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH3ahBzDSrs 31-EDO Music Theory: Supermajor Hexatonic Scale] by [[Zhea Erose]]</ref>, so something other than a mos may be used as a scale to get the most out of mothra. There are examples of non-mos mothra scales in 31edo [[Strictly proper 7-tone 31edo scales|in the article on strictly proper 7-tone 31edo scales]].  
Mothra tempers out [[81/80]] and finds the prime 5 at a stack of four fifths as does any temperament in the [[meantone family]]. It also tempers out [[1728/1715]], the orwellisma. It can be described as the {{nowrap| 26 & 31 }}. Using [[31edo]] with a generator of 6\31 is an excellent tuning choice. However, a pure mos mothra scale is often described as directionless and has limited chord-building potential<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH3ahBzDSrs 31-EDO Music Theory: Supermajor Hexatonic Scale] by [[Zhea Erose]]</ref>, so something other than a mos may be used as a scale to get the most out of mothra. There are examples of non-mos mothra scales in 31edo [[Strictly proper 7-tone 31edo scales|in the article on strictly proper 7-tone 31edo scales]].  


Note that mothra is also called '''cynder''' in the 7-limit, which can be a little confusing sometimes.  
Note that mothra is also called '''cynder''' in the 7-limit, which can be a little confusing sometimes.  
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; Music
* ''Prelude for solo piano'' (2014) by [[Chris Vaisvil]] – [https://web.archive.org/web/20201127013310/http://micro.soonlabel.com/16-ET/mothra/20141028_mothra16br4.mp3 play] | [https://www.chrisvaisvil.com/prelude-for-solo-piano-in-mothra16-brat-4-tuning/ blog] – in Mothra[16], brat 4 tuning


==== 17-limit ====
==== 17-limit ====
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Rodan (5-limit)]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Rodan (5-limit)]].''


Rodan tempers out 245/243 and can be described as the {{nowrap| 41 & 46 }} temperament. This temperament is more accurate than mothra and extends neatly to the 13-limit, though the perfect fifth is sharper than ideal for slendric. [[87edo]] is excellent for this, with the 17\87 generator missing the 13-limit CWE tuning by less than a microcent.  
Rodan tempers out 245/243 and can be described as the {{nowrap| 41 & 46 }} temperament. This temperament is more accurate than mothra and extends neatly to the 13-limit, though the perfect fifth is sharper than ideal for slendric. [[87edo]] is excellent for this, with the 17\87 generator missing the 13-limit CWE tuning by less than a millicent.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–31 equivalence continuum #Ampersand]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–31 equivalence continuum #Ampersand]].''


Miracle is one of the most important entries of this temperament clan. It tempers out [[225/224]], splitting the ~8/7 generator of slendric into 15/14~16/15, and can be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 41 }} temperament. Its ploidacot is hexacot. It is then extremely natural to equate the neutral third, three generators up, to [[11/9]] and thereby extend miracle to the full [[11-limit]] with essentially no further damage. [[72edo]] makes for an excellent tuning.  
Miracle is one of the most important entries of this temperament clan. It tempers out [[225/224]], splitting the ~8/7 generator of slendric into [[15/14]]~[[16/15]], and can be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 41 }} temperament. Its ploidacot is hexacot. It is then extremely natural to equate the neutral third, three generators up, to [[11/9]] and thereby extend miracle to the full [[11-limit]] with essentially no further damage. [[72edo]] makes for an excellent tuning.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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Badness (Sintel): 0.870
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 105/104, 120/119, 144/143, 154/153, 170/169, 210/209
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}}
===== 23-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
Comma list: 105/104, 120/119, 144/143, 154/153, 161/160, 170/169, 210/209
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}}


==== Benediction ====
==== Benediction ====
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Badness (Sintel): 0.639
Badness (Sintel): 0.639
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 210/209, 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 286/285, 375/374
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}}
===== 23-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
Comma list: 162/161, 210/209, 225/224, 231/230, 243/242, 273/272, 286/285
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}}


==== Manna ====
==== Manna ====
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Badness (Sintel): 0.748
Badness (Sintel): 0.748
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 210/209, 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 325/324, 343/342
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}}
===== 23-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
Comma list: 210/209, 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 300/299, 325/324, 343/342
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}}


==== Semimiracle ====
==== Semimiracle ====
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Badness (Sintel): 0.822


==== Hemisecordite ====
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
 
Comma list: 169/168, 210/209, 221/220, 225/224, 243/242, 273/272
 
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}}
 
===== 23-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
 
Comma list: 169/168, 208/207, 210/209, 221/220, 225/224, 243/242, 273/272
 
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}}
 
==== Hemisecordite ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 385/384, 847/845
Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 385/384, 847/845
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Badness (Sintel): 1.15
Badness (Sintel): 1.15
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list:
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}}
===== 23-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
Comma list:
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}}


===== Semihemisecordite =====
===== Semihemisecordite =====
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 441/440, 2200/2197
Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 385/384, 2200/2197


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -11 17 7 -28 3 -5 | 0 18 -21 -6 45 1 13 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -11 17 7 -28 3 -5 | 0 18 -21 -6 45 1 13 }}
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Badness (Sintel): 1.26
Badness (Sintel): 1.26
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 210/209, 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 385/384, 2200/2197
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}}
===== 23-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
Comma list: 210/209, 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 300/299, 385/384, 1105/1104
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}}


=== Revelation ===
=== Revelation ===
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=== Oracle ===
=== Oracle ===
The name is a portmanteau of [[orwell]] and [[miracle]]: Oracle is a weak extension of 7-limit miracle, splitting its ~[[16/15]] generator and an octave into two ~[[16/11]] generators. Additionally, when [[restriction|restricted]] to the 2.15.7.11 subgroup, oracle's generator corresponds to 2 stacked orwell generators.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–31 equivalence continuum #Valentine (5-limit)]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–31 equivalence continuum #Valentine (5-limit)]].''


Valentine tempers out [[126/125]] and [[6144/6125]] as well as 1029/1024. It has a generator of [[~]][[21/20]], three of which make the slendric generator ~8/7. 21/20 can be stripped of its 2 and taken as 3 × 7/5. In this respect it resembles miracle, with a generator of 3 × 5/7, and casablanca, with a generator of 5 × 7/3. These three generators are the simplest in terms of the relationship of tetrads in the [[7-limit symmetrical lattices|lattice of 7-limit tetrads]]. Valentine can be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 46 }} temperament; its ploidacot is enneacot. [[77edo]], [[108edo]], or [[185edo]] make for excellent tunings, which also happen to be excellent tunings for [[starling]], the rank-3 temperament tempering out 126/125. Hence 7-limit valentine can be used whenever starling is wanted, with the extra tempering out of 1029/1024 having no discernible effect on tuning accuracy. Another tuning for valentine uses (3/2)<sup>1/9</sup> as a generator, giving pure 3/2 fifths. Valentine extends naturally to the 11-limit, tempering out 121/120 and 441/440; 46edo has a valentine generator 3\46 which is only 0.0117 cents sharp of the minimax generator, (11/7)<sup>1/10</sup>.
Valentine tempers out [[126/125]] and [[6144/6125]] as well as 1029/1024. It has a generator of [[~]][[21/20]], three of which make the slendric generator ~8/7. 21/20 can be stripped of its 2 and taken as 3 × 7/5. In this respect it resembles miracle, with a generator of 3 × 5/7, and casablanca, with a generator of 5 × 7/3. These three generators are the simplest in terms of the relationship of tetrads in the [[7-limit symmetrical lattices|lattice of 7-limit tetrads]]. Valentine can be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 46 }} temperament; its ploidacot is enneacot. [[77edo]], [[108edo]], or [[185edo]] make for excellent tunings, which also happen to be excellent tunings for [[starling]], the rank-3 temperament tempering out 126/125. Hence 7-limit valentine can be used whenever starling is wanted, with the extra tempering out of 1029/1024 having no discernible effect on tuning accuracy. Another tuning for valentine uses (3/2)<sup>1/9</sup> as a generator, giving pure 3/2 fifths. Valentine extends naturally to the 11-limit, tempering out 121/120 and 441/440; 46edo has a valentine generator 3\46 which is only 0.0117 cents sharp of the minimax generator, ([[11/7]])<sup>1/10</sup>.


Valentine has a very straighforward [[S-expression]]-based comma list in the [[11-limit]] add-23 (i.e. the 2.3.5.7.11.23 subgroup) of {([[176/175|S8/S10 = S22 × S23 × S24]], [[121/120|S11]]), [[441/440|S21]], [[484/483|S22]], [[529/528|S23]], [[576/575|S24]]}, so it is the temperament that equalizes the 20::25 segment of the harmonic series.
Valentine has a very straighforward [[S-expression]]-based comma list in the [[11-limit]] add-23 (i.e. the 2.3.5.7.11.23 subgroup) of {([[176/175|S8/S10 = S22 × S23 × S24]], [[121/120|S11]]), [[441/440|S21]], [[484/483|S22]], [[529/528|S23]], [[576/575|S24]]}, so it is the temperament that equalizes the 20::25 segment of the harmonic series.
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Shibboleth]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Shibboleth]].''


Superkleismic tempers out the keema, [[875/864]], and can be described as the {{nowrap| 15 & 26 }} temperament. It splits the ~7/4 into three ~6/5 generators of around 322 cents. This is noticeably sharper than the [[kleismic]] generator, hence the name.  
Superkleismic tempers out the keema, [[875/864]], and can be described as the {{nowrap| 15 & 26 }} temperament. It splits the ~[[7/4]] into three ~6/5 generators of around 322 cents. This is noticeably sharper than the [[kleismic]] generator, hence the name.  


In the 11-limit, two generator steps can be identified with ~16/11, and in the 13-limit, the same step can be treated as ~13/9. The [[S-expression]]-based comma list of 13-limit superkleismic is {[[875/864|S5/S6]], [[1029/1024|S7/S8]], [[100/99|S10]], [[144/143|S12]], ([[441/440|S21]])}. Through careful observation of the equivalences therein one can derive the mapping of the full 13-limit.  
In the 11-limit, two generator steps can be identified with ~16/11, and in the 13-limit, the same step can be treated as ~13/9. The [[S-expression]]-based comma list of 13-limit superkleismic is {[[875/864|S5/S6]], [[1029/1024|S7/S8]], [[100/99|S10]], [[144/143|S12]], ([[441/440|S21]])}. Through careful observation of the equivalences therein one can derive the mapping of the full 13-limit.  
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{{Main| Unidec }}
{{Main| Unidec }}


Unidec tempers out the ragisma, [[4375/4374]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 26 & 46 }} temperament. It has a [[semi-octave]] [[period]] and a generator of ~80/63, two of which minus a period make slendric's generator; its [[ploidacot]] is therefore diploid gamma-hexacot. In the 11-limit, the generator represents [[14/11]]. [[190edo]] makes for an excellent tuning in both the 7-limit and 11-limit.  
Unidec tempers out the ragisma, [[4375/4374]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 26 & 46 }} temperament. It has a [[semi-octave]] [[period]] and a generator of ~[[80/63]], two of which minus a period make slendric's generator; its [[ploidacot]] is therefore diploid gamma-hexacot. In the 11-limit, the generator represents [[14/11]]. [[190edo]] makes for an excellent tuning in both the 7-limit and 11-limit.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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== Necromanteion ==
== Restles ==
Necromanteion, named by [[Johannes Werpup]] in 2014<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_106371.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Temperament ideas: A cuckoo, and two oracles'']</ref> may be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 51c }} temperament. The generator is a subfifth representing 35/24, four of which minus two octaves make slendric's generator, so its [[ploidacot]] is beta-dodecacot.  
{{See also| Lesser tendoneutralic }}
 
Restles may be described as the {{nowrap| 77 & 87 }} temperament, and has a [[ploidacot]] signature of gamma-dodecacot. It was named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011 for it is some sort of opposite to [[beatles]]<ref name="petr's long post">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_101780.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Suggested names for the unclasified temperaments'']</ref>.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 1029/1024, 5103/5000
[[Comma list]]: 1029/1024, 153664/151875


{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -5 -7 5 | 0 12 17 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -2 8 4 | 0 12 -19 -4 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~35/24
: mapping generators: ~2. ~315/256


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.2959{{c}}, ~35/24 = 658.3833{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.0322{{c}}, ~315/256 = 358.5581{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.296 -2.835 +4.130 -0.879 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.032 +0.678 +1.340 -2.930 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~35/24 = 658.2313{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~315/256 = 358.5484{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -3.179 +3.619 -1.751 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.626 +1.267 -3.019 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 11c, 20c, 31, 144c, 175c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 77, 87, 164 }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.98
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.73


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 176/175, 243/242, 1029/1024
Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 153664/151875


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -5 -7 5 -13 | 0 12 17 -4 30 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -2 8 4 -7 | 0 12 -19 -4 35 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2862{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.4276{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1110{{c}}, ~27/22 = 358.6045{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.2805{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/22 = 358.5720{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 20ce, 31, 113c, 144c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 77, 87, 164, 251d }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.77
Badness (Sintel): 1.81


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 144/143, 176/175, 243/242, 343/338
Comma list: 196/195, 352/351, 385/384, 676/675


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -5 -7 5 -13 7 | 0 12 17 -4 30 -6 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -2 8 4 -7 4 | 0 12 -19 -4 35 -1 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3663{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.0465{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0482{{c}}, ~~16/13 = 358.5883{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.3800{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/13 = 358.5741{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 20ce, 31, 82cf, 113cf }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 77, 87, 164, 251d }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.94
Badness (Sintel): 1.16


== Restles ==
== Necromanteion ==
{{See also| Lesser tendoneutralic }}
Necromanteion, named by [[Johannes Werpup]] in 2014<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_106371.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Temperament ideas: A cuckoo, and two oracles'']</ref> may be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 51c }} temperament. The generator is a subfifth representing ~[[35/24]], four of which minus two octaves make slendric's generator. Therefore, its [[ploidacot]] is wau-dodecacot.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 1029/1024, 153664/151875
[[Comma list]]: 1029/1024, 5103/5000


{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -2 8 4 | 0 12 -19 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -5 -7 5 | 0 12 17 -4 }}
: mapping generators: ~2. ~315/256
: mapping generators: ~2, ~35/24


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.0322{{c}}, ~315/256 = 358.5581{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.2959{{c}}, ~35/24 = 658.3833{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.032 +0.678 +1.340 -2.930 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.296 -2.835 +4.130 -0.879 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~315/256 = 358.5484{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~35/24 = 658.2313{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.626 +1.267 -3.019 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -3.179 +3.619 -1.751 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 77, 87, 164 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 11c, 20c, 31, 144c, 175c }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.73
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.98


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 153664/151875
Comma list: 176/175, 243/242, 1029/1024


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -2 8 4 -7 | 0 12 -19 -4 35 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -5 -7 5 -13 | 0 12 17 -4 30 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1110{{c}}, ~27/22 = 358.6045{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2862{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.4276{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/22 = 358.5720{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.2805{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 77, 87, 164, 251d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 20ce, 31, 113c, 144c }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.81
Badness (Sintel): 1.77


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 196/195, 352/351, 385/384, 676/675
Comma list: 144/143, 176/175, 243/242, 343/338


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -2 8 4 -7 4 | 0 12 -19 -4 35 -1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -5 -7 5 -13 7 | 0 12 17 -4 30 -6 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0482{{c}}, ~~16/13 = 358.5883{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3663{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.0465{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/13 = 358.5741{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.3800{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 77, 87, 164, 251d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 20ce, 31, 82cf, 113cf }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.16
Badness (Sintel): 1.94


== Lagaca ==
== Lagaca ==
Cryptically named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011<ref name="petr's long post"/>, lagaca may be described as the {{nowrap| 10 & 118 }} temperament with a [[ploidacot]] signature of diploid wau-enneacot. The name actually refers to the fact that 12 generator steps in this temperament make ~[[7/3]], where "l", "g", "c" are integers alphabetically converted to letters.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


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== Quartemka ==
== Quartemka ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Quartemka]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Quartemka]].''
Quartemka may be described as the {{nowrap| 26 & 61 }} temperament. Its [[ploidacot]] is 18-sheared 21-cot. It was named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011 for its generator is close to 1/4 of the generator for [[emka]]<ref name="petr's long post"/>.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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== Tritriple ==
== Tritriple ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Tritriple]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Tritriple]].''
Tritriple may be described as the {{nowrap| 103 & 118 }} temperament. Its [[ploidacot]] is iota-beta-27-cot. It was named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011 for its generator is 1/9 of the generator for [[slendric]], so that 3×3 generators [[octave reduction|octave reduced]] give slendric's generator, and another ×3 give the [[3/2|perfect fifth]]<ref name="petr's long post"/>.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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== Other subgroup extensions ==
== Other subgroup extensions ==
=== Euslendric ===
=== Euslendric (2.3.7.13) ===
Forms of slendric in the most optimal range for the 2.3.7 temperament ({{nowrap| 36 & 77 }}) lack an obvious strong mapping of prime 5 or prime 11. However, slendric can extend well to the no-fives no-elevens [[29-limit]] by tempering out [[273/272]], [[343/342]], [[378/377]], [[392/391]], [[513/512]], and [[729/728]], or a comma basis defined in terms of [[S-expression]]s as {S7/S8, S14/S16, S15/S20, S24/S26, S27, S28}. [[113edo]] is an obvious tuning.
Forms of slendric in the most optimal range for the 2.3.7 temperament ({{nowrap| 36 & 77 }}) lack an obvious strong mapping of prime 5 or prime 11. However, slendric can extend well to the no-fives no-elevens [[29-limit]] by tempering out [[273/272]], [[343/342]], [[378/377]], [[392/391]], [[513/512]], and [[729/728]], or a comma basis defined in terms of [[S-expression]]s as {S7/S8, S14/S16, S15/S20, S24/S26, S27, S28}. [[113edo]] is an obvious tuning.


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Badness (Sintel): 0.473
Badness (Sintel): 0.473


=== Baladic ===
=== Baladic (2.3.7.13) ===
Baladic is a 2.3.7.13.17-subgroup temperament that attempts to approximate the Maqam Sikah Baladi scale. It tempers out [[169/168]] ({{S|13}}), which splits [[7/6]] in half ([[13/12]]~[[14/13]]) and one finds that the octave is therefore split in half via the interval [[91/64]], which is then equated to [[17/12]]. 36edo is an excellent baladic tuning.
Baladic is a 2.3.7.13.17-subgroup temperament that attempts to approximate the Maqam Sikah Baladi scale. It tempers out [[169/168]] ({{S|13}}), which splits [[7/6]] in half ([[13/12]]~[[14/13]]) and one finds that the octave is therefore split in half via the interval [[91/64]], which is then equated to [[17/12]]. 36edo is an excellent baladic tuning.


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Badness (Sintel): 0.253
Badness (Sintel): 0.253
=== Gigapyth (2.3.7.85) ===
Subgroup: 2.3.7.85
Comma list: 1029/1024, 7225/7203
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -2 4 7 | 0 6 -2 -1 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.8295{{c}}, ~128/85 = 717.2597{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~128/85 = 716.7933{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 42*, 47, 52, 57, 62, 67, 72, 149*, 370d***, 519bdd***** }}
<nowiki/>* Wart for 85


== References ==
== References ==