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=== Favourite EDOs === | === Favourite EDOs === | ||
DISCLAIMER: The reasonings for the EDOs I note here are guaranteed to be incomplete; EDOs are fundamentally deep systems and the more I've learned the more reasons I've found to appreciate the various EDOs I speak of here. Therefore keep in mind that whatever I say is a rude oversimplification scratching the surface of its possibilities and deep elegances. Also, I've kept my old entries and reasonings here as they were based on somewhat different ways of thinking about these things so I believe still have value; for example, I now generally quite dislike [[22edo]] (and [[archy]] generally) as an approximation to harmony but I admit there is a lot of interesting music in it and it is something a beginner should consider and which has proven value to beginners (both listeners and musicians).<br/> | DISCLAIMER: The reasonings for the EDOs I note here are guaranteed to be incomplete; EDOs are fundamentally deep systems and the more I've learned the more reasons I've found to appreciate the various EDOs I speak of here. Therefore keep in mind that whatever I say is a rude oversimplification scratching the surface of its possibilities and deep elegances. Also, I've kept my old entries and reasonings here as they were based on somewhat different ways of thinking about these things so I believe still have value; for example, I now generally quite dislike [[22edo]] (and [[archy]] generally) as an approximation to harmony but I admit there is a lot of interesting music in it and it is something a beginner should consider and which has proven value to beginners (both listeners and musicians).<br/> | ||
12, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20, 22, | 12, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20, 22, 26, 27, 28, 31, 32, 34, 35, 36, 48, 50, 53, 58, 63, 65, 68, 70, 72, 77, 80, 84, 104, 111(, 124, 140, 183, 217, 224, 270, 311).<br/> | ||
EDOs < 12 not included as usually better conceptualised in a superset of that EDO and because otherwise I'd list too many consecutive EDOs.<br/> | EDOs < 12 not included as usually better conceptualised in a superset of that EDO and because otherwise I'd list too many consecutive EDOs.<br/> | ||
Favourite EDOs best to worst, not listed = even worse, my opinion obviously, also my opinions are still in development about many of these:<br/> | Favourite EDOs best to worst (in brackets are ones I consider to be too many notes to be useful for most people and purposes), not listed = even worse, my opinion obviously, also my opinions are still in development about many of these:<br/> | ||
* 12: [[Pythagorean tuning|Pythagorean]] [[Meantone]]: the musical language. From a circle-of-nths relative-consistency point of view, it is very strong in the 2.3.5.19(.17) subgroup. Not to be underestimated. Has melodic hints of the 7-limit through the inaccuracy of its 5. Has been called "the [[311edo|EDO chosen by God]]" by some - I'm definitely inclined to agree in the context of casual non-xen Western music. | * 12: [[Pythagorean tuning|Pythagorean]] [[Meantone]]: the musical language. From a circle-of-nths relative-consistency point of view, it is very strong in the 2.3.5.19(.17) subgroup. Not to be underestimated. Has melodic hints of the 7-limit through the inaccuracy of its 5. Has been called "the [[311edo|EDO chosen by God]]" by some - I'm definitely inclined to agree in the context of casual non-xen Western music. | ||
* 13: Distorted 12. As such, almost xenharmonic by definition, due to maximising opportunities for alienness. The next good EDO after 12. Dreamy scales that I like a lot but I'm not sure about if that alone means they're good to use. I hope it does as 13 has huge potential if so. | * 13: Distorted 12. As such, almost xenharmonic by definition, due to maximising opportunities for alienness. The next good EDO after 12. Dreamy scales that I like a lot but I'm not sure about if that alone means they're good to use. I hope it does as 13 has huge potential if so. | ||
* 16: The first interesting superset of 4 other than 12. Also a [[Pelogic_family#Mavila|mavila]] tuning, not that I like Mavila too much. | * 16: The first interesting superset of 4 other than 12. Also a [[Pelogic_family#Mavila|mavila]] tuning, not that I like Mavila too much. | ||
* 17: Notable as the first step up from 12 in colour palette. Good fifths that are slightly worse than in 12 but in the sharp direction. Kinda a bright feel. It took me a while to deduce this, but its harmonic magic lies in its 2.3.25.13.17/15(.23) subgroup, especially in the glorious neogothic/neopythagorean pentads afforded by [[fiventeen]] which is tuned excellently. Also if someone tells you 17 has ~11 ask them to prove it with harmonic examples. | * 17: Notable as the first step up from 12 in colour palette. Good fifths that are slightly worse than in 12 but in the sharp direction. Kinda a bright feel. It took me a while to deduce this, but its harmonic magic lies in its 2.3.25.13.17/15(.23) subgroup, especially in the glorious neogothic/neopythagorean pentads afforded by [[fiventeen]] which is tuned excellently. Also if someone tells you 17 has ~11 ask them to prove it with harmonic examples. | ||
* 19: Flattish/solemn [[meantone]] tuning with xenmelodic potential. The semifourth in [[semaphore]] has a very neat sound but I wouldn't say it approximates the 7-limit | * 19'''*''': Flattish/solemn [[meantone]] tuning with xenmelodic potential. '''* As someone who is basically only interested in EDOs, I highly recommend using [[30edt|30 EDT]] instead of 19 EDO, corresponding to using a sharp-tempered octave so that [[3/1]] is just.''' The semifourth in [[semaphore]] has a very neat sound but I wouldn't say it approximates the 7-limit, and similarly the 13 is too flat, but wide voicings with octave tempering fix both of these problems! If we're speaking of the plain EDO, 19 doesn't admit a very elegant subgroup: 2.3.5.37, with it representing a circle of [[37/32]]'s, thus also being the first good approximation of the 2.37 subgroup, and thus of [[37/32]], which represents probably my favourite interval of 19. But with octave-tempering, you get 7 and 13; a big difference in filling in gaps of its harmony! (Because actually a lot of its intervals can be interpreted purely as [[5-limit]].) | ||
* 20: The first EDO to have both the 5L5s and 4L4s symmetrical scales, and significant for that reason alone. Can sound quite atonal, however: | * 20: The first EDO to have both the 5L5s and 4L4s symmetrical scales, and significant for that reason alone. Can sound quite atonal, however: | ||
** Its 10 EDO subset has a very strong circle of [[16/13]]'s and [[15/14]]'s. | ** Its 10 EDO subset has a very strong circle of [[16/13]]'s and [[15/14]]'s. | ||
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** [[10/9]] is approximated well by 3\20 and [[14/11]] is approximated well by 7\20. Has a flattish approximation of [[7/4]] and some higher (octave-reduced) harmonics but I don't think I'd use it to approximate those higher harmonics. | ** [[10/9]] is approximated well by 3\20 and [[14/11]] is approximated well by 7\20. Has a flattish approximation of [[7/4]] and some higher (octave-reduced) harmonics but I don't think I'd use it to approximate those higher harmonics. | ||
: This gives it the (additional) remarkable property that all its flavours of seconds are arguably consonant other than 1\20, which is arguably an augmented unison anyway. | : This gives it the (additional) remarkable property that all its flavours of seconds are arguably consonant other than 1\20, which is arguably an augmented unison anyway. | ||
* 22: The first EDO that melodically approximates the 11-limit, and very tone efficient for that purpose. Sounds harmonically complex. [[Superpyth]] + [[Orwell]] tuning. Really not a fan of porcupine; it's an [[exotemperament]] (AKA "troll temperament") IMO. Use [[echidna]] if you want 22ish structure with '''''harmonic''''' approximations of the 11-limit (not just melodic). | * 22: The first EDO that melodically approximates the 11-limit, and very tone efficient for that purpose. Sounds harmonically complex. [[Superpyth]] + [[Orwell]] tuning. Really not a fan of porcupine; it's an [[exotemperament]] (AKA "troll temperament") IMO. Use [[echidna]] tuned in [[58edo]] or [[80edo]] if you want 22ish structure with '''''harmonic''''' approximations of the 11-limit (not just melodic). | ||
* 24: I think neutral intervals and semifourths are kinda cool as an addition and unexpected root movement is cool, so acts as a nice stepping stone into microtonality with a strong base of familiarity to build off of if what you are looking for is the ''microtonal''. But I wouldn't recommend it to a beginner as there are more approachable systems that offer a healthier introduction to microtonality and (especially) xenharmony, such as (especially?) 31 EDO. | * <del>24</del>: I think neutral intervals and semifourths are kinda cool as an addition and unexpected root movement is cool, so acts as a nice stepping stone into microtonality with a strong base of familiarity to build off of if what you are looking for is the ''microtonal''. But I wouldn't recommend it to a beginner as there are more approachable systems that offer a healthier introduction to microtonality and (especially) xenharmony, such as (especially?) 31 EDO. If you want to introduce a beginner to xen with a superset of 12 EDO, 36 EDO and 48 EDO are great picks, the latter of which a superset, hence why I've removed this one from my list of favourite EDOs and added 48 to make up for it. Represents the 2.3.11.17.19.31.37 subgroup particularly well. | ||
* 26: Neat for having very good 8/7's and 10/9's, both flavours of major second that I very much appreciate (while 9/8 can get pretty bland). Basically the only tuning of [[flattone]] that I'd consider using as its about as big as a flattone system should be. Note that while 19 EDO is technically also flattone, it represents the border between sharper meantones and flattone, so I do not consider it a proper (in the sense of typical/representative) example of such (for example 19 EDO trying to combine the mappings of 7 as augmented sixth and diminished seventh results in [[49/48|S7]] being tempered, which is to me harmonically almost as implausible as tempering [[25/24]], so definitely an [[exotemperament]]/"troll temperament"). Furthermore, in this tuning of flattone the minor seconds are 13/12's, thus representing a near-equal diatonic such that the minor seconds are subneutral seconds. Has the benefit of extending 13 EDO into a larger and more complete colour set and conceptual framework, creating some truly xenharmonic and xenmelodic opportunities with flattone acting as a rough roadmap back to the more familiar things. Very nice model of the 2.7.11 subgroup; in my eye, it is to the 2.7.11 subgroup as 31 EDO is to the 2.5.7 subgroup. | * 26: Neat for having very good 8/7's and 10/9's, both flavours of major second that I very much appreciate (while 9/8 can get pretty bland). Basically the only tuning of [[flattone]] that I'd consider using as its about as big as a flattone system should be. Note that while 19 EDO is technically also flattone, it represents the border between sharper meantones and flattone, so I do not consider it a proper (in the sense of typical/representative) example of such (for example 19 EDO trying to combine the mappings of 7 as augmented sixth and diminished seventh results in [[49/48|S7]] being tempered, which is to me harmonically almost as implausible as tempering [[25/24]], so definitely an [[exotemperament]]/"troll temperament"). Furthermore, in this tuning of flattone the minor seconds are 13/12's, thus representing a near-equal diatonic such that the minor seconds are subneutral seconds. Has the benefit of extending 13 EDO into a larger and more complete colour set and conceptual framework, creating some truly xenharmonic and xenmelodic opportunities with flattone acting as a rough roadmap back to the more familiar things. Very nice model of the 2.7.11 subgroup; in my eye, it is to the 2.7.11 subgroup as 31 EDO is to the 2.5.7 subgroup. | ||
* 27: Superpyth it was more in-tune and way cooler than 22 EDO. Also the only place where I accept the harmonically challenging equivalence [[3edo|1\3]] = [[~]][[5/4]] in peace, leading to some very interesting possibilities. | |||
* 28: A suspiciously frequent subset of ridiculously strong generalist systems like 84 EDO, 140 EDO and 84 + 140 = 224 EDO, and a champion of idiosyncratic subgroup harmonies and of interpreting the 7 EDO fifth as [[~]][[3/2]] (when justified by more notes that contextualise it as such). As a result, this is not only a good EDO with a small note count, but one endowed with magical tuning qualities. As a result, it's probably one of the only EDOs that can justify [[~]][[6/5]] = 1\4 with the right chordal/harmonic context, which is arguably important because I really like the [[4edo|1\4]] = 300{{cent}} minor third and often find it ideal (if not almost essential!) for melodically satisfying progressions moving by minor thirds. | |||
* 31: The next EDO that melodically approximates the 11-limit, and considerably better. Extremely nice arrangement of intervals that feels weirdly intuitive and ideal. Colourful EDO. Basically ideal meantone tuning as more notes than this is overkill for meantone if you don't specifically want meantone. | * 31: The next EDO that melodically approximates the 11-limit, and considerably better. Extremely nice arrangement of intervals that feels weirdly intuitive and ideal. Colourful EDO. Basically ideal meantone tuning as more notes than this is overkill for meantone if you don't specifically want meantone. | ||
* 32: 16 EDO with a sharp fifth. I like it primarily because of it being a power of 2. Exploration into this EDO could be interesting. 80 EDO offers a reasonably good approximation of it through a 16L16s MOSS. | * 32: 16 EDO with a sharp fifth. I like it primarily because of it being a power of 2. Exploration into this EDO could be interesting. 80 EDO offers a reasonably good approximation of it through a 16L16s MOSS. | ||
* 34: The first good approximation of the 5-prime-limit due to being the first reasonably accurate tuning of [[Kleismic family| | * 34: The first good approximation of the 5-prime-limit due to being the first reasonably accurate tuning of [[Kleismic family|kleismic]] and [[srutal archagall]] which are IMO the best 5-limit temperaments that observe the [[81/80|syntonic comma]]. 19 is also a tuning for kleismic but feels like it doesn't do justice to the accuracy and pristineness of kleismic to me, plus its harmonic interpretation is pretty lacking. And 22 is very obviously to Has the sharp 3/2's of 17 EDO, and as 17 EDO is a good colour system, 34 EDO is a natural extension. Also is a very logical "completion" of 17 due to giving a very logical 2.3.5.13.17(.23)-subgroup interpretation of the sqrt(2).sqrt(3) subgroup with some really intriguing possibilities. If you're lacking in inspiration and its wide array of supported MOSSes aren't inspiration enough, try taking a look at the diaschismic-tetracot continuum ([[2048/2025]])<sup>n</sup> / ([[20000/19683]]). | ||
* 35: A subset of 140 EDO, a ridiculously strong generalist system, which endows it with magical tuning qualities. | |||
* 36: Because of being a superset of 12, quite overlooked. It is actually a very good subgroup temperament! A natural extension of 12 EDO's colour palette, preferring to avoid the neutral and semi- intervals of 24 EDO. I should note though that while both 24 and 36 are reasonably good systems, I do not think they should be used together, as there are preferable EDOs in the high end range, such as 80 EDO. | * 36: Because of being a superset of 12, quite overlooked. It is actually a very good subgroup temperament! A natural extension of 12 EDO's colour palette, preferring to avoid the neutral and semi- intervals of 24 EDO. I should note though that while both 24 and 36 are reasonably good systems, I do not think they should be used together, as there are preferable EDOs in the high end range, such as 80 EDO. | ||
* 37: | * <del>37</del>: An excellent no-3's [[13-limit]] system. Very overlooked just because of its not so great approximation of prime 3 (which is at least [[5L 2s|diatonic]] and sounds convincing enough especially in context). A logical system for building on it (which I highly recommend) is [[111edo]] which keeps this 13-limit mapping (but improves the 3). I've removed it from the list however because though it should objectively be good, I hate how it sounds, which I suspect is to do with that it makes 13-limit [[porcupine]] real*, therefore I highly recommend borrowing notes from [[111edo]] liberally wherever you're not satisfied with what 37edo offers on its own. (* I hate porcupine both in terms of how it sounds and from a tuning theorist perspective, cuz you can't temper out both 100/99 and 121/120; either you conflate 11/10 with 10/9 or with 12/11, not both! And most porcupine tunings are bad because either the 6/5 or 5/4 are too out of tune so that I consider it to be too close to an [[exotemperament]]). | ||
* 48: Strong in the no-13's no-15's no-25's no-27's no-39's 41-odd-limit add-53; overlooked superset of 12edo. It solves the biggest problem of 24edo: Having to choose every note between a black-and-white contrast between super familiar and super unfamiliar, which hampers fluid xenharmonic and xenmelodic thinking and understanding severely. | |||
* 50: The last meantone EDO that should ever be considered because it is the last EDO to consistently map 9/8 and 10/9 to the same step and because 81/80 is a rather large comma to temper at this scale and thus costs you a lot of accuracy. It is surprisingly consistent in the higher limits, and that it is quite composite is appealing to me, especially given that it is a superset of 10 EDO. | * 50: The last meantone EDO that should ever be considered because it is the last EDO to consistently map 9/8 and 10/9 to the same step and because 81/80 is a rather large comma to temper at this scale and thus costs you a lot of accuracy. It is surprisingly consistent in the higher limits, and that it is quite composite is appealing to me, especially given that it is a superset of 10 EDO. | ||
* 53: [[Kleismic family#Catakleismic|Catakleismic]] [[Pythagorean tuning|Pythagorean]] [[Orwell]] [[Buzzard]]. If that description doesn't sound epic I don't really know what will. Very colourful EDO. Near-perfect 5-limit JI with good 7-limit, passable 11-limit through Orwell and good no-17's 19-limit. Normally I wouldn't like large prime EDOs but this is a rare exception as in this case it's a practically perfect representation of the [[3-limit|2.3]] subgroup. | * 53: My former-favourite, now-second-favourite EDO; [[Kleismic family#Catakleismic|Catakleismic]] [[Pythagorean tuning|Pythagorean]] [[Orwell]] [[Buzzard]]. If that description doesn't sound epic I don't really know what will. Very colourful EDO. Near-perfect 5-limit JI with good 7-limit, passable 11-limit through Orwell and good no-17's 19-limit add-41, though prime 19 is dubious (in terms of whether its concordance psychoacoustically registers) in some contexts that you'd hope it'd do better in. Normally I wouldn't like large prime EDOs but this is a rare exception as in this case it's a practically perfect representation of the [[3-limit|2.3]] subgroup. | ||
* 58: Weirdly consistent tuning with a nice selection of colours. Also supports the important 53&58 temperament [[Buzzard]]. Record in [[Pepper ambiguity]] in the 13- and 15-odd-limit. The first EDO to be consistent in the 17-odd-limit. I haven't looked at this EDO very closely but suspect it may have some surprisingly accurate/good approximations hiding under its slightly meh prime error profile. It supports hemipyth thru 16/13 = 11/9, a questionable equivalence but arguably 58 is the only EDO to make it work/make sense. I like its organisation of intervals/colours a lot. | * 58: Weirdly consistent tuning with a nice selection of colours. Also supports the important 53&58 temperament [[Buzzard]]. Record in [[Pepper ambiguity]] in the 13- and 15-odd-limit. The first EDO to be consistent in the 17-odd-limit. I haven't looked at this EDO very closely but suspect it may have some surprisingly accurate/good approximations hiding under its slightly meh prime error profile. It supports hemipyth thru 16/13 = 11/9, a questionable equivalence but arguably 58 is the only EDO to make it work/make sense. I like its organisation of intervals/colours a lot. | ||
* 65: Very cool | * 65: Very cool and very underappreciated dual-7's (and either no- or dual-13's) [[31-limit]] system (add-47), so very tone efficient. Good [[nestoria]] + [[wurschmidt]] + [[gravity]] + [[trisedodge]] + [[sensible]] tuning, but more importantly, it is in some surprisingly exact sense the "dual" to what 53 EDO's schismic offers harmonically, including the fact that its subgroup is larger and involves larger primes at the cost of some accuracy (depending on how strict you wanna be about which primes you consider approximated for the purposes of interpreting harmony). Also has a very cool superset, [[130edo]], but I implore people to explore what 65 EDO has to offer first because it is truly vast and you may find you don't need more, and being 5 * 13 it has lots of cool xen stuff deriving from the implications of that. | ||
* 68: Superset of 34 that enables the 7-prime-limit. Not too remarkable for that reason alone, however my interest in this EDO was increased when I deduced that it has a step size that is close to half the size of 49/48 meaning a 7/6, an 8/7 and a semifourth can all be distinguished with accuracy. For that reason, this EDO is important as an EDO around which other EDOs have the potential for a good selection of colours which approximate these 3 intervals of interest. It also performs well as a no-11's no-29's [[31-limit]] temperament, although it shares the idiosyncracy of 80 EDO of splitting the [[81/80|syntonic comma]] into two [[64/63]]'s. | * 68: Superset of 34 that enables the 7-prime-limit. Not too remarkable for that reason alone, however my interest in this EDO was increased when I deduced that it has a step size that is close to half the size of 49/48 meaning a 7/6, an 8/7 and a semifourth can all be distinguished with accuracy. For that reason, this EDO is important as an EDO around which other EDOs have the potential for a good selection of colours which approximate these 3 intervals of interest. It also performs well as a no-11's no-29's [[31-limit]] temperament, although it shares the idiosyncracy of 80 EDO of splitting the [[81/80|syntonic comma]] into two [[64/63]]'s. | ||
* 70: For those who want to use 140 EDO but for which that's too many notes. Dual-5's dual-7's [[17-limit system]] with many hints of higher-limit JI, as per being a subset of 140 EDO. Its fifth is very special, being the exact midpoint between 4\7 and 3\5 and being the first convergent of the approximation log2(3/2)/log2(4/3) = sqrt(2) which doesn't yield a closer approximation of pyth (the last edo to do that is 53 EDO). | |||
* 72: [[catakleismic]] [[miracle]] [[octopus]] (among other things). If you want the [[11-limit]] in a finite number of pitches, look no further, but it even does well in the no-13's 17-limit, the full 17-limit and the full 19-limit (with a few inconsistencies in the lattermost case). Added convenience of being a superset of 12 EDO and a very composite EDO. The first true EDO to represent [[ennealimmal]] (as [[27edo]] only makes sense if you want to use superpyth and [[45edo]] is a trollish flattone tuning). The page for the keenanisma, [[385/384]], has some explanation for why this is a theoretically interesting comma for extending the [[7-limit]] to the [[11-limit]], for which 72 does very logically (among the many very logical things it does). | * 72: [[catakleismic]] [[miracle]] [[octopus]] (among other things). If you want the [[11-limit]] in a finite number of pitches, look no further, but it even does well in the no-13's 17-limit, the full 17-limit and the full 19-limit (with a few inconsistencies in the lattermost case). Added convenience of being a superset of 12 EDO and a very composite EDO. The first true EDO to represent [[ennealimmal]] (as [[27edo]] only makes sense if you want to use superpyth and [[45edo]] is a trollish flattone tuning). The page for the keenanisma, [[385/384]], has some explanation for why this is a theoretically interesting comma for extending the [[7-limit]] to the [[11-limit]], for which 72 does very logically (among the many very logical things it does). | ||
* 77: Very good (and elegant) high-limit system. See [[#Important 23-limit EDOs]]. I overlooked this one. Supports the rudely-named [[absurdity]] temperament, which is ironically very reasonable if not in some senses ideal for modelling higher-limit harmony. | * 77: Very good (and elegant) high-limit system. See [[#Important 23-limit EDOs]]. I overlooked this one. Supports the rudely-named [[absurdity]] temperament, which is ironically very reasonable if not in some senses ideal for modelling higher-limit harmony. | ||
* 80: My | * 80: My favourite EDO by a small margin. In the past, my favourite was 53 EDO. Now I am leaning again to 53 EDO as my favourite but honestly there are so many seriously good EDOs that it feels unfair to single one out. 80 EDO may be a surprising choice for former favourite at first but there are a lot of reasons feeding into it which means if you don't get it it means you're probably underestimating it and haven't looked closely enough (I don't mean this as some way of trying to impose my opinion; there is a lot of exceptional properties that 80 EDO is hiding of many natures). Tunes [[Tolermic family|17-limit Tolermic]], a strange temperament which tempers many commas I'm interested in tempering; in fact there is a strange intuitiveness to 80 EDO's tempering. The highly complex 80&311 temperament [[superlimmal]] is of note as being essentially a no-31's 37- or 41-limit temperament. | ||
* | * 84: Extremely overlooked high-limit generalist, part of a "trio" of such systems (high-limit generalists that also do reasonably (and sometimes exceptionally) well for most if not all of [[LCJI]] as well, AKA "truly general-purpose systems" (up to taste)), which are {77, 80, 84}. | ||
* 111: | * 111: An absurdly elegant system from a tempering perspective in the sheer wealth and intuitiveness of equivalences it affords you; so much so that it sacrifices tuning accuracy for temperamental beauty and efficiency. This makes it a one of a kind EDO because it is basically ''the ideal'' hemicomma-precision EDO. | ||
* 140: Extremely overlooked LCJI and high-limit generalist. The tuning and structure of the 17-limit is ridiculously elegant, and it performs so well in such a huge range of large odd-limits (talking from 19 all the way through to at least '''''125''''') that I suspect its intervals actually transcend a consistency-based mindset and elevate an "opportunistic and impressionistic harmony"-based mindset, a feature it shares with [[80edo]]. | |||
* 224: I suspect this is a very strong EDO but I honestly don't know much about it, so I'll leave it here in case others want to investigate its higher-limit capabilities more deeply. | |||
* 270: For a long time, I overlooked this EDO because I thought it was just "very accurate [[13-limit]]" (for which [[140edo]] is far more desirable) with a few bonus harmonies, but in fact it's a full 53-limit system that is a worthy competitor to 311, discussed next. | |||
* 311: If you asked God what his favourite EDO was, he would say [[311edo|311 EDO]]. It is almost unsettling how much of the harmonic series this EDO approximates well considering its comparatively small size. Very recommendable alternative to cents for low-complexity (in the sense of integer- or odd-limited) JI, as this EDO is not only consistent in the ''full'' 41-odd-limit, but ''many'' (mainly non-prime) odd harmonics greater than 41 can be added to the set without causing inconsistencies between them and other odd harmonics. I wonder if a precise JI harmonic series singer would implicitly target notes of 311 EDO in both singing and in their conceptualisation of JI. I find describing the prime subgroup interpretation of this EDO rather amusing, so here it is: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23.29.31.37.41.73.89.109.113. Note that as 89, 109 and 113 aren't as accurate as 73, so they could arguably be omitted because of their combination of complexity and inaccuracy. Fun fact: in Group Theory (a subfield of Abstract Algebra), excepting 37, all the primes up to and including 41 appear in the prime factorisation of the order of the Monster Group. The largest prime to appear in its factorisation is 71, the prime just before 73, which is the first prime after 41 that 311 EDO approximates well. | * 311: If you asked God what his favourite EDO was, he would say [[311edo|311 EDO]]. It is almost unsettling how much of the harmonic series this EDO approximates well considering its comparatively small size. Very recommendable alternative to cents for low-complexity (in the sense of integer- or odd-limited) JI, as this EDO is not only consistent in the ''full'' 41-odd-limit, but ''many'' (mainly non-prime) odd harmonics greater than 41 can be added to the set without causing inconsistencies between them and other odd harmonics. I wonder if a precise JI harmonic series singer would implicitly target notes of 311 EDO in both singing and in their conceptualisation of JI. I find describing the prime subgroup interpretation of this EDO rather amusing, so here it is: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23.29.31.37.41.73.89.109.113. Note that as 89, 109 and 113 aren't as accurate as 73, so they could arguably be omitted because of their combination of complexity and inaccuracy. Fun fact: in Group Theory (a subfield of Abstract Algebra), excepting 37, all the primes up to and including 41 appear in the prime factorisation of the order of the Monster Group. The largest prime to appear in its factorisation is 71, the prime just before 73, which is the first prime after 41 that 311 EDO approximates well. | ||