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Optimal ET sequence: [[21edt|b21]], [[22edt|b22]], [[109edt|b109]], [[131edt|b131]], [[153edt|b153]], [[175edt|b175]], [[372edt|b372]], [[547edt|b547]], [[1269edt|b1269]], [[1816edt|b1816]] | Optimal ET sequence: [[21edt|b21]], [[22edt|b22]], [[109edt|b109]], [[131edt|b131]], [[153edt|b153]], [[175edt|b175]], [[372edt|b372]], [[547edt|b547]], [[1269edt|b1269]], [[1816edt|b1816]] | ||
Badness (Sintel): 0.128 | |||
=== Adhara === | === Adhara === | ||
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It is also possible to set two-thirds of 11/9 to [[8/7]], giving rise to an add-8 extension. | It is also possible to set two-thirds of 11/9 to [[8/7]], giving rise to an add-8 extension. | ||
==== 3.7.11.13.17 subgroup ==== | |||
Subgroup: 3.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 3.7.11.13.17 | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 5 | 0 1 -2 }} | {{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 5 | 0 1 -2 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~3, ~5 | |||
[[Optimal tuning]] | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~3 = 1900.8391{{c}}, ~5/3 = 887.8617{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| -1.116 +2.387 -1.219 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~3 = 1901.9550{{c}}, ~5/3 = 888.1251{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +3.766 +0.098 }} | |||
[[ | [[Optimal ET sequence]]: [[15edt|b15]], [[92edt|b92]], [[107edt|b107]], [[122edt|b122]], [[137edt|b137]], [[152edt|b152]], [[319edt|b319c]], [[471edt|b471c]] | ||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.140 | |||
== Keladic == | == Keladic == | ||
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[[Comma list]]: 351/343 | [[Comma list]]: 351/343 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=2| | {{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 -3 | 0 1 3 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~3, ~7 | : mapping generators: ~3, ~7 | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~3 = 1899.1302{{c}}, ~7/3 = 1478.4616{{c}} | ||
* [[CWE]]: ~3 = 1901. | : [[error map]]: {{val| -2.825 +8.766 -5.143 }} | ||
* [[CWE]]: ~3 = 1901.9550{{c}}, ~7/3 = 1479.4872{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +12.616 -2.066 }} | |||
[[ | [[Optimal ET sequence]]: [[4edt|b4]], [[5edt|b5]], [[9edt|b9]], [[86edt|b86d]], [[95edt|b95d]], [[104edt|b104d]], [[113edt|b113d]], [[122edt|b122d]], [[131edt|b131d]] | ||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.125 | |||
== Sadalmelik == | == Sadalmelik == | ||
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[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~3 = 1900.2977{{c}}, ~17/9 = 1109.8480{{c}} | ||
* [[CWE]]: ~3 = 1901. | : [[error map]]: {{val| -1.657 -1.136 +5.488 }} | ||
* [[CWE]]: ~3 = 1901.9550{{c}}, ~17/9 = 1110.3763{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.978 +9.331 }} | |||
[[Optimal ET sequence]]: [[5edt|b5]], [[7edt|b7]], [[12edt|b12]], [[65edt|b65]], [[77edt|b77]], [[89edt|b89]], [[101edt|b101g]], [[113edt|b113g]], [[238edt|b238gg]] | |||
[[ | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.322 | ||
= No- | = No-2's no-3's subgroup temperaments = | ||
== Antipyth == | == Antipyth == | ||
{{Main| Antipyth }} | {{Main| Antipyth }} | ||
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[[Comma list]]: 859375/823543 | [[Comma list]]: 859375/823543 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 -7 | 0 1 7 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~5, ~7/ | : mapping generators: ~5, ~7 | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | |||
* [[WE]]: ~5 = 2782.0966{{c}}, ~7/5 = 592.8517{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| -4.217 +6.122 -1.356 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~5 = 2786.3137{{c}}, ~7/5 = 593.3647{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +10.852 +2.235 }} | |||
[[Optimal | [[Optimal ET sequence]]: [[5ed5|c5]], [[9ed5|c9e]], [[14ed5|c14]], [[33ed5|c33]], [[47ed5|c47]], [[61ed5|c61]] | ||
[[ | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.04 | ||
== Juggernaut == | == Juggernaut == | ||
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[[Comma list]]: 125/121 | [[Comma list]]: 125/121 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=2| 2 | {{Mapping|legend=2| 2 0 3 | 0 1 0 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~11/5, ~7 | : mapping generators: ~11/5, ~7 | ||
[[Optimal tuning]] | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~11/5 = 1388.4013{{c}}, ~7/5 = 591.9463{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| -9.511 -0.077 +13.886 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~11/5 = 1393.1569{{c}}, ~7/5 = 590.1275{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +7.615 +28.153 }} | |||
[[ | [[Optimal ET sequence]]: [[2ed5|c2]], [[4ed5|c4]], [[10ed5|c10]], [[14ed5|c14]], [[66ed5|c66e]], [[80ed5|c80e]], [[94ed5|c94e]], [[108ed5|c108ee]], [[122ed5|c122ee]] | ||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.116 | |||
=== Tridecimal juggernaut === | === Tridecimal juggernaut === | ||
Subgroup: 5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: 125/121, 637/ | Comma list: 125/121, 637/605 | ||
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 3 8 | 0 1 0 -2 }} | |||
{{ | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~11/5 = 1392.6466{{c}}, ~7/5 = 570.6655{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~11/5 = 1393.1569{{c}}, ~7/5 = 570.9139{{c}} | |||
[[ | Optimal ET sequence: [[4ed5|c4]], [[6ed5|c6]], [[10ed5|c10]], [[24ed5|c24]], [[34d5|c34]], [[44ed5|c44]] | ||
Badness (Sintel): 0.116 | |||
= Graphs = | = Graphs = | ||
Latest revision as of 14:42, 13 September 2026
- This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.
| Todo: WIP
Further entries in the catalog of 3.5.7 subgroup rank two temperaments will eventually be documented here. |
This is a collection of subgroup temperaments which omit the prime harmonic of 2. Because of the absence of octaves, these are all nonoctave scales using a period of a tritave, or if harmonic 3 is also excluded, 5/1.
Overview by mapping of 5
Classified by focusing on the mapping of 5th harmonic, similar to Rank-2 temperaments by mapping of 3.
- Arcturus, aldebaran and polaris have a 3/1 period and ~5/3 generator. There is one-to-one correspondence between the 3.5 subgroup and mapped intervals.
- BPS has a ~9/7 generator, two of which give the ~5/3.
- Sirius has a ~25/21 generator, three of which give the ~5/3.
- Deneb has a ~11/9 generator, three of which give the ~9/5.
- Canopus has a ~15/7 generator, five of which give the ~45/1 (5/1 up two tritaves).
- Alnilam has a ~55/27 generator, ten of which give the ~1215/1 (5/1 up five tritaves).
- Izar has a ~30375/16807 generator, twelve of which give the ~1215/1 (5/1 up five tritaves).
- Nekkar has a ~32805/16807 generator, sixteen of which give the ~32805/1 (5/1 up eight tritaves).
- Mintaka does not include the 5th harmonic, and has an ~11/7 generator, two of which give the ~27/11, and three of which give the ~27/7 (9/7 and a tritave).
- Antipyth uses 5/1 as a period, and has a ~7/5 generator. There is one-to-one correspondence between the 5.7 subgroup and mapped intervals.
- Juggernaut uses half-pentave (~11/5) as a period, and has a ~7/5 generator.
3.5.7-subgroup temperaments
Arcturus
Strong extensions of this temperament that include the octave are opossum and crepuscular. Weak extensions are catalan, bunya, superkleismic, and bohpier. Non-octave extensions are documented below.
Subgroup: 3.5.7
Comma list: 15625/15309
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 -7], ⟨0 1 6]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~5
- WE: ~3 = 1903.8634 ¢, ~5/3 = 878.9230 ¢
- error map: ⟨+1.908 -3.527 +0.849]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~5/3 = 878.2907 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -6.068 -1.037]
Optimal ET sequence: b2, b9d, b11, b13, b340cc
Badness (Sintel): 0.535
Polturus
This extension of arcturus adds polaris's mapping for 11/9, mapping it to 5 generators down.
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11
Comma list: 15625/15309, 177147/171875
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 1 -1 5], ⟨0 1 6 -6]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1890.5039 ¢, ~5/3 = 879.7029 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~5/3 = 884.8724 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b13e, b15, b28e, b43dee
Badness (Sintel): 2.51
BPS
For extensions to this temperament that include the octave, see Sensamagic clan. Non-octave extensions are documented below.
Subgroup: 3.5.7
Comma list: 245/243
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 1 2], ⟨0 2 -1]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~9/7
- WE: ~3 = 1903.7398 ¢, ~9/7 = 440.9014 ¢
- error map: ⟨+1.785 -0.771 -2.248]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~9/7 = 440.6646 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -3.030 -5.580]
Optimal ET sequence: b4, b9, b13, b56, b69, b82, b95, b367cdd, b462cdd
Badness (Sintel): 0.0659
Alhena
This is a strong extension of BPS to the subgroup 3.5.7.11/2.13/4 that equates the "semitone" of 27/25~49/45 to 13/12, and then three of these intervals to 14/11.
3.5.7.11/2.13/4 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11/2.13/4
Comma list: 196/195, 325/324, 1001/1000
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 1 2 -1 2], ⟨0 2 -1 11 -4]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~9/7
Optimal tunings:
- Subgroup WE: ~3 = 1903.5584 ¢, ~9/7 = 441.3534 ¢
- Subgroup CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~9/7 = 441.0249 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b13, b43, b56, b69, b289d, b358ddé, b427cddé *
- * é is used as the wart for 11/2.
Badness (Sintel): 0.187
Mintra
This temperament splits 27/7 (the BPS generator up a tritave) into three by means of 11/7 or, equivalently, 7/1 in three by means of 21/11, and is the intersection of BPS, deneb, and mintaka temperaments as well as the most natural temperament satisfied in the 3.5.7.11 subgroup in 39edt.
The 13-limit extension uses the canonical extension for prime 13 described at #Tridecimal mintaka.
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11
Comma list: 245/243, 1331/1323
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -1 3 3], ⟨0 6 -3 -2]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~11/7
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1904.1393 ¢, ~11/7 = 781.6168 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~11/7 = 780.7525 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b17, b39, b95, b134, b229de
Badness (Sintel): 0.302
Tridecimal mintra
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 245/243, 275/273, 1575/1573
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 5 0 1 10], ⟨0 -6 3 2 -13]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1903.9326 ¢, ~11/7 = 781.1856 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~11/7 = 780.4280 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b17, b22, b39, b229cde
Badness (Sintel): 0.373
Dubhe
This temperament is a simple 3.5.7.17 weak extension of BPS that splits the generator of 9/7 into two intervals of 17/15. The name was suggested by MidnightBlue after dubhe, a bright double star (the ninth brightest) and similarities to the word double.
Subgroup: 3.5.7.17
Comma list: 245/243, 2025/2023
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 1 2 2], ⟨0 4 -2 5]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~17/15
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1903.4591 ¢, ~17/15 = 220.2094 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~17/15 = 220.1420 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b8, b9, b17, b26, b69, b95, b121
Badness (Sintel): 0.177
Canopus
For extensions to this temperament that include the prime 2, see Canopic clan. No-2's extensions will be documented below.
Subgroup: 3.5.7
Comma list: 16875/16807
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -2 -1], ⟨0 5 4]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~15/7
- WE: ~3 = 1901.7826 ¢, ~15/7 = 1317.8771 ¢
- error map: ⟨+1.785 -0.771 -2.248]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~15/7 = 1317.9686 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -0.381 +1.093]
Optimal ET sequence: b13, b62, b75, b88, b101, b114, b355, b469, b583, b697
Badness (Sintel): 0.0996
Suhail
Tempering out the 3.13-subgroup threedie splits the tritave into three, meeting 11/1 at seven generators after tempering out the sopreisma.
3.5.7.11.13 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 1575/1573, 1625/1617, 4459/4455
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨3 4 5 6 7], ⟨0 5 4 7 0]]
- mapping generators: ~13/9, ~65/63
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~13/9 = 634.1444 ¢, ~65/63 = 49.6946 ¢
- CWE: ~13/9 = 633.9850 ¢, ~65/63 = 49.7330 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b39, b114, b153, b498cf, b651cf
Badness (Sintel): 0.330
Izar
Subgroup: 3.5.7
Comma list: 13841287201/13839609375
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -5 -2], ⟨0 12 7]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~30375/16807
- WE: ~3 = 1901.9584 ¢, ~30375/16807 = 1024.6759 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.003 +0.005 -0.012]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~30375/16807 = 1024.6743 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +0.002 -0.016]
Optimal ET sequence: b13, b141, b154, …, b258, b271, b800, b1071, b1342, b1613, b4568, b6181
Badness (Sintel): 0.0166
Nekkar
This temperament is the no-2's restriction of squares, and as such is named after a star that belonged to the obsolete constellation of Quadrans Muralis, whose name has to do with squares. However, seeing the sheer complexity and size of the commas, nekkar is much more naturally thought of as a temperament of 3.5.7.11 than 3.5.7, whereupon it is a restriction of undecimal squares, and a strong extension of mintaka. However, the 13-limit extension restricts to minalzidar rather than tridecimal mintaka.
Subgroup: 3.5.7
Comma list: [-24 -3 16⟩
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -8 0], ⟨0 16 3]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~32805/16807
- WE: ~3 = 1900.1550 ¢, ~32805/16807 = 1124.1916 ¢
- error map: ⟨-1.800 -0.488 +3.749]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~32805/16807 = 1125.1876 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +1.047 +6.737]
Optimal ET sequence: b22, b49, b71, b120, b191d, b311dd
Badness (Sintel): 17.1
3.5.7.11 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11
Comma list: 1331/1323, 120285/117649
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -8 0 1], ⟨0 16 3 2]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1900.6084 ¢, ~21/11 = 1124.4193 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~21/11 = 1125.1738 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b22, b49, b71, b120, b191d, b262d
Badness (Sintel): 1.37
3.5.7.11.13 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 169/165, 351/343, 11011/10935
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -8 0 1 -3], ⟨0 16 3 2 9]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1902.3248 ¢, ~21/11 = 1125.4837 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~21/11 = 1125.2772 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b22, b49, b71f
Badness (Sintel): 1.72
Procyon
This tempers out the Don Page comma between 7/5 and 9/7, allowing an accurate representation of the 5:7:9 chord, similar to the 3:5:7 in sirius.
Subgroup: 3.5.7
Comma list: 823543/820125
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 2 2], ⟨0 -7 -3]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~49/45
- WE: ~3 = 1902.1979 ¢, ~49/45 = 145.4124 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.243 +0.195 -0.667]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~49/45 = 145.3680 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +0.020 -1.020]
Optimal ET sequence: b13, b92, b105, b118, b131, b144, b157, b327, b484, b641, b1125d
Badness (Sintel): 0.200
Erigone
Erigone splits the 9/1-complement generator of procyon into three, allowing for an accurate representation of 11/9 at 19 generators and 13/9 at 13 generators.
3.5.7.11.13 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 847/845, 1575/1573, 4459/4455
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -12 -4 -10 -6], ⟨0 21 9 19 13]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~99/49
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1901.9695 ¢, ~99/49 = 1219.5210 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~99/49 = 1219.5123 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b25ce, b39, b92, b131, b170, b301, b471
Badness (Sintel): 0.214
Hemigone
By tempering out 3971/3969, erigone's generator (~99/49) is split into two 27/19's. Then, 17/1 is approximated at 39/35 below 19/1 (tempering out 665/663).
2277/2275 may be used in the same way to extend erigone for prime 23.
3.5.7.11.13.17.19 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 665/663, 847/845, 1575/1573, 1617/1615, 4459/4455
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -12 -4 -10 -6 -8 3], ⟨0 42 18 38 26 33 -1]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~27/19
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1902.0918 ¢, ~27/19 = 609.7886 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~27/19 = 609.7467 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b25ce, b53, b78, b131, b209, b340
Badness (Sintel): 0.455
3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
Comma list: 665/663, 847/845, 1575/1573, 1617/1615, 2277/2275, 4459/4455
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -12 -4 -10 -6 -8 3 -26], ⟨0 42 18 38 26 33 -1 90]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1902.0149 ¢, ~19/9 = 609.7748 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~19/9 = 609.7562 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b53i, b78i, b131, b340, b471
Badness (Sintel): 0.542
Sirius
This tempers out the Don Page comma between 5/3 and 7/5, allowing an accurate representation of the 3:5:7 chord, similar to the 5:7:9 in procyon.
For an overview of extensions to this temperament that include prime 2, see Gariboh clan #Overview to extensions.
Subgroup: 3.5.7
Comma list: 3125/3087
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 1 1], ⟨0 3 5]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~25/21
- WE: ~3 = 1902.4455 ¢, ~25/21 = 293.7393 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.490 -2.650 +2.316]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~25/21 = 293.7594 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -3.080 +1.926]
Optimal ET sequence: b6, b7, b13, b71, b84, b97, b110, b123, b136
Badness (Sintel): 0.213
Mizar
Mizar exploits the sirius tuning of the 25/21 generator being close to 13/11 (in order to split 7/5 evenly); additionally this tempers out 459/455, equating 17/13 to 35/27.
The mapping for prime 17 is similar to what dubhe does: tempering out 2025/2023 to split the 7-limit generator in half; in this case, 25/7 is split into two intervals of 17/9, which turns out to occupy the position of a macrodiatonic fifth, specifically a macro-flattone fifth.
3.5.7.11.13.17 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 275/273, 459/455, 1625/1617, 2025/2023
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -2 -4 12 11 2], ⟨0 6 10 -17 -15 1]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~17/9
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1901.0269 ¢, ~17/9 = 1097.7583 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~17/9 = 1098.2979 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b19, b26, b45, b71
Badness (Sintel): 0.841
Remus
By splitting the generator of sirius into three, remus efficiently represents the no-2's 13-limit with mos scales of 18, 25, 32, or 39 steps.
This is essentially electra but with prime 7, or more accurately, electra is the no-7's restriction of this temperament.
3.5.7.11.13 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 275/273, 1625/1617, 1575/1573
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -5 -9 -5 -7], ⟨0 9 15 10 13]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~11/5
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1902.4456 ¢, ~11/5 = 1366.1830 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~11/5 = 1365.8649 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b7, b25df, b32, b39, b110, b149
Badness (Sintel): 0.286
Bohlenic
This temperament is identical to 13edt (equal-tempered Bohlen–Pierce scale), but has an independent generator for 11.
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11
Comma list: 245/243, 3125/3087
((Mapping|legend=2| 13 19 23 0 | 0 0 0 1 }}
- mapping generators: ~27/25, ~11
Optimal ET sequence: b13, b26, b39, b299ccde, b338ccde
Badness (Sintel): 0.499
3.5.7.11.13 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 245/243, 275/273, 847/845
Subgroup-val mapping: ((mapping| 13 19 23 0 2 | 0 0 0 1 1 }}
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~27/25 = 146.4722 ¢, ~11/9 = 341.2865 ¢
- CWE: ~27/25 = 146.3042 ¢, ~11/9 = 342.1231 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b13, b26, b39
Badness (Sintel): 0.365
Tuning diagrams
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3.5.11-subgroup temperaments
Polaris
Polaris tempers out the comma 177147/171875, and thus equates seven 5/3's with 15/11, or equivalently seven 9/5's with 11/9.
Subgroup: 3.5.11
Comma list: 177147/171875
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 11], ⟨0 1 -6]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~5
- WE: ~3 = 1899.1140 ¢, ~5/3 = 890.5067 ¢
- error map: ⟨-2.841 +3.307 +1.212]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~5/3 = 892.8502 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +7.691 +6.156]
Optimal ET sequence: b15, b17, b32, b113, b145ce, b177ce, b209ce
Badness (Sintel): 1.01
Deneb
Subgroup: 3.5.11
Comma list: 6655/6561
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 2 2], ⟨0 -3 1]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~11/9
- WE: ~3 = 1903.7592 ¢, ~11/9 = 340.5646 ¢
- error map: ⟨+1.804 -0.489 -3.235]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~11/9 = 340.0519 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -2.559 -7.356]
Optimal ET sequence: b5, b6, b11, b17, b28, b67, b95, b123, b218e, b341cee
Badness (Sintel): 0.255
Fomalhaut
Fomalhaut is an extension of deneb to higher limits that splits the interval of 11/3 in three.
Fomalhaut was considered in the 23-limit from the start, as an attempt to approximate the no-2's, no-7's 23-limit as accurately as possible using 25 to 35 notes per equave, defined as the b28 & b33 temperament in this limit.
Fomalhaut follows the convention of naming no-2's temperaments after stars.
Subgroup: 3.5.11.13
Comma list: 6655/6561, 274625/264627
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -4 4 9], ⟨0 9 -3 -11]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~65/33
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1905.7441 ¢, ~65/33 = 1156.2566 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~65/33 = 1153.9402 ¢
Optimal ET sequence b5, b23f, b28, b61, b89f
Badness (Sintel): 2.69
3.5.11.13.17 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.11.13.17
Comma list: 1105/1089, 4225/4131, 6655/6561
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -4 4 9 5], ⟨0 9 -3 -11 -4]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1905.8547 ¢, ~33/17 = 1156.2973 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~33/17 = 1153.9162 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b5, b23f, b28, b61, b89fg
Badness (Sintel): 1.15
3.5.11.13.17.19 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 247/243, 325/323, 1105/1089, 4675/4617
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -4 4 9 5 -4], ⟨0 9 -3 -11 -4 11]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1905.9433 ¢, ~33/17 = 1156.3787 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~33/17 = 1153.9775 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b5, b28, b61, b89fgh
Badness (Sintel): 0.882
3.5.11.13.17.19.23 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.5.11.13.17.19.23
Comma list: 209/207, 247/243, 255/253, 325/323, 4675/4617
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -4 4 9 5 -4 -2], ⟨0 9 -3 -11 -4 11 8]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1905.4597 ¢, ~33/17 = 1155.9938 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~33/17 = 1153.8954 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b5, b28, b61, b89fgh
Badness (Sintel): 0.838
Alnilam
Nearly a microtemperament, alnilam takes a generator of ~55/27 and equates nine of them tritave reduced with 27/11. The name was given by CompactStar to continue with the theme of naming no-2's temperaments after proper star names, but also to indirectly reference mavila as its tritave-complement generator is ~81/55, a flat fifth.
Subgroup: 3.5.11
Comma list: [-35 9 10⟩
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 -5 8], ⟨0 10 -9]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~55/27
- WE: ~3 = 1902.3576 ¢, ~55/27 = 1229.7879 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.403 -0.222 -0.548]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~55/27 = 1229.5321 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -0.768 -1.467]
Optimal ET sequence: b17, b65, b82, b99, b577, b676, b775e, b874e, b973e, b2045ceee
Badness (Sintel): 3.84
3.7.11-subgroup temperaments
Mintaka
Mintaka tempers out 1331/1323 in the 3.7.11 subgroup. It is the common restriction of mintra and nekkar.
Subgroup: 3.7.11
Comma list: 1331/1323
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 1], ⟨0 3 2]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~21/11
- WE: ~3 = 1902.4401 ¢, ~21/11 = 1123.2803 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.485 +1.015 -2.317]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~21/11 = 1123.1517 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +0.629 -3.060]
Optimal ET sequence: b5, b17, b22, b61, b83, b105, b188, b293e
Badness (Sintel): 0.0528
Tridecimal mintaka
This extension for prime 13 works in the sharper half of the mintaka tuning range. It is the no-5 restriction of tridecimal mintra.
Subgroup: 3.7.11.13
Comma list: 1331/1323, 218491/216513
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 1 10], ⟨0 3 2 -13]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1903.5668 ¢, ~11/7 = 1122.7513 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~11/7 = 1121.7718 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b17, b22, b39, b217ef, b256ef, b295def, b334deef, b373deef
Badness (Sintel): 0.604
Minalzidar
This extension for prime 13 works in the flatter half of the mintaka tuning range. It is the no-5 restriction of tridecimal nekkar.
Subgroup: 3.7.11.13
Comma list: 351/343, 1331/1323
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 1 -3], ⟨0 3 2 9]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~21/11
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1899.2045 ¢, ~21/11 = 1125.8915 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~21/11 = 1127.1732 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b22, b27, b86d, b113d
Badness (Sintel): 0.472
Mebsuta
Mebsuta is a microtemperament in the 3.7.11 subgroup that sets the relative sizes of 9/7 and 11/9 to be in the ratio of 5:4; its generator is identifiable as the ratio between these intervals, 81/77. It produces a 21L 1s mos scale against the tritave, which serves as a well-temperament of 22edt; that scale's chroma is identified with 1331/1323.
Mebsuta naturally extends itself with prime 19, identifying the two-generator interval as 21/19, since its square differs from 11/9 (the four-generator interval) by the small comma 3971/3969.
It is also possible to set the chroma 1331/1323 equal to 245/243, producing an accurate if complex mapping for prime 5 at 32 generators up; it is notable that this sets eight 11/9's equal to 5/1, which is the 3.5.11-subgroup restriction of mohaha.
Subgroup: 3.7.11
Comma list: 387420489/386683451
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 2 2], ⟨0 -5 4]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~81/77
- WE: ~3 = 1901.8347 ¢, ~81/77 = 86.9519 ¢
- error map: ⟨-0.120 +0.084 +0.159]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~81/77 = 86.8601 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +0.284 +0.433]
Optimal ET sequence: b21, b22, b87, b109, b131, b153, b175, b503, b678, b853, b1028, b2909e, b3937de, b4965dee
Badness (Sintel): 0.128
3.7.11.19 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.7.11.19
Comma list: 3971/3969, 41553/41503
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 2 2 3], ⟨0 -5 4 -7]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1901.8715 ¢, ~81/77 = 86.9248 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~81/77 = 86.9325 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b21, b22, b109, b131, b153, b175, b372, b547, b1269, b1816
Badness (Sintel): 0.128
Adhara
Adhara cleaves the step of mebsuta in three to produce a remarkable Don Page temperament for the chord 7:9:11:13:17 (that is, setting 13/11 to two-thirds of 9/7, and 17/13 to four-thirds of 11/9). It can be extended to even higher subgroups fairly naturally, and encompasses several prominent tunings within its structure (such as 65edt, 131edt, and 197edt).
It is also possible to set two-thirds of 11/9 to 8/7, giving rise to an add-8 extension.
3.7.11.13.17 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 14161/14157, 107811/107653, 1108809/1108723
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 2 2 2 2], ⟨0 -15 12 22 38]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~119/117
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1901.7879 ¢, ~119/117 = 28.9764 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~119/117 = 28.9772 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b65, b66, b131, b197, b328, b525, b722, b1247f
Badness (Sintel): 0.274
3.7.11.13.17.19 subgroup
Subgroup: 3.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 3213/3211, 3971/3969, 14161/14157, 41553/41503
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 2 2 2 2 3], ⟨0 -15 12 22 38 -21]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~119/117
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~3 = 1901.8410 ¢, ~119/117 = 28.9716 ¢
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~119/117 = 28.9729 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: b65, b66, b131, b197, b525, b722, b919, b2035df
Badness (Sintel): 0.225
Other tritave-based subgroups
Aldebaran
Subgroup: 3.5.13
Comma list: 3159/3125
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 5], ⟨0 1 -2]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~5
- WE: ~3 = 1900.8391 ¢, ~5/3 = 887.8617 ¢
- error map: ⟨-1.116 +2.387 -1.219]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~5/3 = 888.1251 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +3.766 +0.098]
Optimal ET sequence: b15, b92, b107, b122, b137, b152, b319c, b471c
Badness (Sintel): 0.140
Keladic
Subgroup: 3.7.13
Comma list: 351/343
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 -3], ⟨0 1 3]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~7
- WE: ~3 = 1899.1302 ¢, ~7/3 = 1478.4616 ¢
- error map: ⟨-2.825 +8.766 -5.143]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~7/3 = 1479.4872 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +12.616 -2.066]
Optimal ET sequence: b4, b5, b9, b86d, b95d, b104d, b113d, b122d, b131d
Badness (Sintel): 0.125
Sadalmelik
Subgroup: 3.13.17
Comma list: 85293/83521
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 2], ⟨0 4 1]]
- mapping generators: ~3, ~17/9
- WE: ~3 = 1900.2977 ¢, ~17/9 = 1109.8480 ¢
- error map: ⟨-1.657 -1.136 +5.488]
- CWE: ~3 = 1901.9550 ¢, ~17/9 = 1110.3763 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +0.978 +9.331]
Optimal ET sequence: b5, b7, b12, b65, b77, b89, b101g, b113g, b238gg
Badness (Sintel): 0.322
No-2's no-3's subgroup temperaments
Antipyth
Subgroup: 5.7.11
Comma list: 859375/823543
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 -7], ⟨0 1 7]]
- mapping generators: ~5, ~7
- WE: ~5 = 2782.0966 ¢, ~7/5 = 592.8517 ¢
- error map: ⟨-4.217 +6.122 -1.356]
- CWE: ~5 = 2786.3137 ¢, ~7/5 = 593.3647 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +10.852 +2.235]
Optimal ET sequence: c5, c9e, c14, c33, c47, c61
Badness (Sintel): 1.04
Juggernaut
Subgroup: 5.7.11
Comma list: 125/121
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨2 0 3], ⟨0 1 0]]
- mapping generators: ~11/5, ~7
- WE: ~11/5 = 1388.4013 ¢, ~7/5 = 591.9463 ¢
- error map: ⟨-9.511 -0.077 +13.886]
- CWE: ~11/5 = 1393.1569 ¢, ~7/5 = 590.1275 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +7.615 +28.153]
Optimal ET sequence: c2, c4, c10, c14, c66e, c80e, c94e, c108ee, c122ee
Badness (Sintel): 0.116
Tridecimal juggernaut
Subgroup: 5.7.11.13
Comma list: 125/121, 637/605
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨2 0 3 8], ⟨0 1 0 -2]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~11/5 = 1392.6466 ¢, ~7/5 = 570.6655 ¢
- CWE: ~11/5 = 1393.1569 ¢, ~7/5 = 570.9139 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: c4, c6, c10, c24, c34, c44
Badness (Sintel): 0.116
Graphs
See: Catalog of 3.5.7 subgroup rank two temperaments #Graphs
Projective tuning space diagrams
See: Catalog of 3.5.7 subgroup rank two temperaments #Projective tuning space diagrams
