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[[#Bischismic|Bischismic]] adds {{monzo| -69 40 0 2 }} and has a fifth generator with a half-octave period. [[#Salsa|Salsa]] adds [[parahemif comma|{{monzo| 15 -13 0 2 }}]] and has a hemififth generator. [[#Hemischis|Hemischis]] adds {{monzo| -34 25 0 -2 }} and has a hemitwelfth generator. [[Gamelismic clan #Guiron|Guiron]] adds [[1029/1024|{{monzo| -10 1 0 3 }}]], with an ~8/7 generator, three of which give the fifth. [[#Term|Term]] adds {{monzo| -94 54 0 3 }} with a 1/3-octave period. [[#Squirrel|Squirrel]], [[#Tertiaschis|tertiaschis]], and [[#Countertertiaschis|countertertiaschis]] each has a generator that is 1/3 of the fourth. [[#Quadrant|Quadrant]] adds {{monzo| -119 68 0 4 }} with a 1/4-octave period. [[#Kleischismic|Kleischismic]] adds {{monzo| 49 -38 0 4 }} with a half-octave period and also a bisect generator. [[#Sesquiquartififths|Sesquiquartififths]] adds {{monzo| -35 15 0 4 }} and slices the fifth in four.

Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:

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=== Tridecaschismic (2.3.5.13) ===

Proposed by [[Eufalesio]] in 2026, tridecaschismic adds the [[325/324|marveltwin comma]] to the comma list, ~~benefitting~~ from a fifth that is just, or practically indistinguishable from just, like in 53edo. It is ~~has among~~ the lowest badness of schismic extensions. It is also equivalent to the 2.3.5.13 [[restriction]] of 13-limit [[cassandra]].

Proposed by [[Eufalesio]] in 2026, tridecaschismic adds the [[325/324|marveltwin comma]] to the comma list, or equivalently, the [[tridecapyth comma]]. It benefits from a fifth that is just, or practically indistinguishable from just, like in 53edo. It is one of the lowest badness schismic extensions. It is also equivalent to the 2.3.5.13 [[restriction]] of 13-limit [[cassandra]].

Subgroup: 2.3.5.13

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: ''See also: [[No-elevens subgroup temperaments #Garibaldia]] and [[No-elevens subgroup temperaments #Pontia|#Pontia]]''

Nestoria is notable for having one of the lowest-badness subgroup extensions of schismic. Note that despite prime [[19/1|19]] being optimized by a flatter fifth, the fifth in optimal tunings of nestoria is generally not flatter than the fifth in optimal schismic due to its optimization considering intervals like [[19/10]] and [[19/15]].

Nestoria is notable for having one of the lowest-badness subgroup extensions of schismic. Note that despite prime [[19/1|19]] being optimized by a flatter fifth, the fifth in optimal tunings of nestoria is generally not flatter than the fifth in optimal schismic due to its optimization considering intervals like [[19/10]] and [[19/15]]. However, the dyadic tuning sensitivity of [[19/16]] suggests using tunings like [[65edo]] and [[77edo]] to optimize in favour of prime 19 (especially the minor triad ~16:19:24 which is equated with the Pythagorean minor triad), as [[171edo]] is already arguably undertempered for it despite being the optimal patent val.

[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.19

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 [[#Bischismic|Bischismic]] adds {{monzo| -69 40 0 2 }} and has a fifth generator with a half-octave period. [[#Salsa|Salsa]] adds [[parahemif comma|{{monzo| 15 -13 0 2 }}]] and has a hemififth generator. [[#Hemischis|Hemischis]] adds {{monzo| -34 25 0 -2 }} and has a hemitwelfth generator. [[Gamelismic clan #Guiron|Guiron]] adds [[1029/1024|{{monzo| -10 1 0 3 }}]], with an ~8/7 generator, three of which give the fifth. [[#Term|Term]] adds {{monzo| -94 54 0 3 }} with a 1/3-octave period. [[#Squirrel|Squirrel]], [[#Tertiaschis|tertiaschis]], and [[#Countertertiaschis|countertertiaschis]] each has a generator that is 1/3 of the fourth. [[#Quadrant|Quadrant]] adds {{monzo| -119 68 0 4 }} with a 1/4-octave period. [[#Kleischismic|Kleischismic]] adds {{monzo| 49 -38 0 4 }} with a half-octave period and also a bisect generator. [[#Sesquiquartififths|Sesquiquartififths]] adds {{monzo| -35 15 0 4 }} and slices the fifth in four.
-Temperaments involving larger splits include [[#Tsaharuk|tsaharuk]], [[#Quanharuk|quanharuk]], [[#Quintilipyth|quintilipyth]], [[#Quintaschis|quintaschis]], [[#Altinex|altinex]], [[Stearnsmic clan #Pogo|pogo]], [[#Sextilifourths|sextilifourths]], [[#Octant|octant]], [[#Nonant|nonant]], [[#Septant|septant]], [[#Septiquarschis|septiquarschis]], and [[#Tridecafifths|tridecafifths]]. Those split the schismic structure into five to thirteen parts.
+Temperaments involving larger splits include [[#Tsaharuk|tsaharuk]], [[#Quanharuk|quanharuk]], [[#Quintilipyth|quintilipyth]], [[#Quintaschis|quintaschis]], [[#Altinex|altinex]], [[Stearnsmic clan #Pogo|pogo]], [[#Sextilifourths|sextilifourths]], [[#Septant|septant]], [[#Octant|octant]], [[#Nonant|nonant]], [[#Septiquarschis|septiquarschis]], and [[#Tridecafifths|tridecafifths]]. Those split the schismic structure into five to thirteen parts.
 Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:
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 === Tridecaschismic (2.3.5.13) ===
-Proposed by [[Eufalesio]] in 2026, tridecaschismic adds the [[325/324|marveltwin comma]] to the comma list, benefitting from a fifth that is just, or practically indistinguishable from just, like in 53edo. It is has among the lowest badness of schismic extensions. It is also equivalent to the 2.3.5.13 [[restriction]] of 13-limit [[cassandra]].
+Proposed by [[Eufalesio]] in 2026, tridecaschismic adds the [[325/324|marveltwin comma]] to the comma list, or equivalently, the [[tridecapyth comma]]. It benefits from a fifth that is just, or practically indistinguishable from just, like in 53edo. It is one of the lowest badness schismic extensions. It is also equivalent to the 2.3.5.13 [[restriction]] of 13-limit [[cassandra]].
 Subgroup: 2.3.5.13
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 : ''See also: [[No-elevens subgroup temperaments #Garibaldia]] and [[No-elevens subgroup temperaments #Pontia|#Pontia]]''
-Nestoria is notable for having one of the lowest-badness subgroup extensions of schismic. Note that despite prime [[19/1|19]] being optimized by a flatter fifth, the fifth in optimal tunings of nestoria is generally not flatter than the fifth in optimal schismic due to its optimization considering intervals like [[19/10]] and [[19/15]].
+Nestoria is notable for having one of the lowest-badness subgroup extensions of schismic. Note that despite prime [[19/1|19]] being optimized by a flatter fifth, the fifth in optimal tunings of nestoria is generally not flatter than the fifth in optimal schismic due to its optimization considering intervals like [[19/10]] and [[19/15]]. However, the dyadic tuning sensitivity of [[19/16]] suggests using tunings like [[65edo]] and [[77edo]] to optimize in favour of prime 19 (especially the minor triad ~16:19:24 which is equated with the Pythagorean minor triad), as [[171edo]] is already arguably undertempered for it despite being the optimal patent val.
 [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.19