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The '''marvel family''' of [[rank-3 temperament|rank-3]] [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[7-limit]] [[marvel comma]] ([[ratio]]: [[225/224]], {{monzo|legend=1| -5 2 2 -1 }}), also known as ''septimal kleisma''. These temperaments hence equate [[16/15]] and [[15/14]], or equivalently they equate two [[5/4]]'s and one [[14/9]]. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common [[equal temperament|equal]] and [[rank-2 temperament]]s. | |||
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The '''marvel family''' | |||
The marvel comma can also be viewed as a comma of the 2.9.25.7 subgroup. Hence it is tempered out by any subset edos of marvel-supporting edos that have this subgroup, such as [[11edo]] and [[17edo]] which are subsets of [[22edo]] and [[34edo]] (when using the | The marvel comma can also be viewed as a comma of the 2.9.25.7 [[subgroup]]. Hence it is tempered out by any subset edos of marvel-supporting edos that have this subgroup, such as [[11edo]] and [[17edo]] which are subsets of [[22edo]] and [[34edo]] (when using the 34d val) which temper out the marvel comma. | ||
== Marvel == | == Marvel == | ||
{{Main| Marvel }} | {{Main| Marvel }} | ||
The head of the marvel family is marvel, which tempers out [[225/224]]. Marvel has a [[ | The head of the marvel family is marvel, which tempers out [[225/224]]. Marvel has a [[normal forms|normal generator list]] of {2, 3, 5}; hence a [[5-limit]] scale can be converted to marvel simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent marvel tuning, is given by [[197edo]]. | ||
Little is gained in tuning accuracy by not tempering out 4375/4374 as well as 225/224, leading to [[catakleismic | Little is gained in tuning accuracy by not tempering out 4375/4374 as well as 225/224, leading to [[catakleismic]], with which it shares the [[optimal patent val]]. Another temperament which does little damage to tuning accuracy is [[compton]], for which [[240edo]] may be used. See [[Marvel temperaments]] for some other rank-2 temperaments. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 | 0 1 0 2 | 0 0 1 2 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 | 0 1 0 2 | 0 0 1 2 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5 | : mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5 | ||
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Lattice basis: | Lattice basis: | ||
: | : ~15/14 length = 1.256, ~3/2 length = 1.369 | ||
: | : angle (~15/14, ~3/2) = 106.958° | ||
[[Optimal tuning]] | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.5971{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.7560{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8285{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.597 -0.602 -1.291 +0.940 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.6222{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8540{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.333 -2.460 +0.127 }} | |||
[[Minimax tuning]]: | [[Minimax tuning]]: | ||
* [[7-odd-limit]]: 3 and 5 1/4-comma flat, 7 just | * [[7-odd-limit]]: 3 and 5 1/4-comma flat, 7 just | ||
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 5/4 1/2 -1/2 1/4 | 5/4 -1/2 1/2 1/4 | 0 0 0 1 }} | : {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 5/4 1/2 -1/2 1/4 | 5/4 -1/2 1/2 1/4 | 0 0 0 1 }} | ||
: [[Eigenmonzo basis| | : [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.5/3.7 | ||
* [[9-odd-limit]]: 3 1/6-comma flat, 5 1/3-comma flat, 7 just | * [[9-odd-limit]]: 3 1/6-comma flat, 5 1/3-comma flat, 7 just | ||
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 5/6 2/3 -1/3 1/6 | 5/3 -2/3 1/3 1/3 | 0 0 0 1 }} | : {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 5/6 2/3 -1/3 1/6 | 5/3 -2/3 1/3 1/3 | 0 0 0 1 }} | ||
: [[Eigenmonzo basis| | : [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/5.7 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 9, 10, 12, 19, 31, 41, 53, 72, 197, 269c }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 9, 10, 12, 19, 31, 41, 53, 72, 197, 269c }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0. | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.161 | ||
[[Projection pair]]s: 7 225/32 | [[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 225/32</code> | ||
[[Complexity spectrum]]: 4/3, 5/4, 7/5, 7/6, 8/7, 6/5, 9/8, 9/7, 10/9 | [[Complexity spectrum]]: 4/3, 5/4, 7/5, 7/6, 8/7, 6/5, 9/8, 9/7, 10/9 | ||
Scales: [[marvel9]], [[marvel10]], [[marvel11]], [[marvel12]], [[marvel19]], [[marvel22]], [[pump12_1]], [[pump12_2]], [[pump13]], [[pump14]], [[pump15]], [[pump16]], [[pump17]], [[pump18]], [[marvel wholetone]] | |||
Scales: [[marvel9]], [[marvel10]], [[marvel11]], [[marvel12]], [[marvel19]], [[marvel22]], [[pump12_1]], [[pump12_2]], [[pump13]], [[pump14]], [[pump15]], [[pump16]], [[pump17]], [[pump18]] | |||
{{Databox|[[Minkowski blocks]]| | {{Databox|[[Minkowski blocks]]| | ||
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=== Overview to extensions === | === Overview to extensions === | ||
The second comma of the [[ | The second comma of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] defines which 11-limit family member we are looking at. 4125/4096 gives unidecimal marvel; 91125/90112 gives prodigy; 5632/5625 gives minerva. These and many others considered below use the same generators as marvel. | ||
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include | Temperaments discussed elsewhere include | ||
* ''[[Supernatural]]'' (+245/243) → [[Keemic family #Supernatural|Keemic family]] | * ''[[Supernatural]]'' (+245/243) → [[Keemic family #Supernatural|Keemic family]] | ||
* ''[[Artemis]]'' (+121/120) → [[Biyatismic clan #Artemis|Biyatismic clan]] | * ''[[Artemis]]'' (+121/120) → [[Biyatismic clan #Artemis|Biyatismic clan]] | ||
* ''[[Spectacle]]'' (+243/242) → [[Rastmic rank | * ''[[Spectacle]]'' (+243/242) → [[Rastmic rank-3 clan #Spectacle|Rastmic rank-3 clan]] | ||
* ''[[Mirage]]'' (+243/242, +385/384) → [[Rastmic rank | * ''[[Marvelpine]]'' (+4000/3993) → [[Wizardharry clan #Marvelpine|Wizardharry clan]] | ||
* ''[[Mirage]]'' (+243/242, +385/384) → [[Rastmic rank-3 clan #Spectacle|Rastmic rank-3 clan]] | |||
* ''[[Catakleismoid]]'' (+4375/4374) → [[Kleismic rank-3 family #Catakleismoid|Kleismic rank-3 family]] | |||
== Undecimal marvel | == Undecimal marvel == | ||
{{Main| Marvel }} | {{Main| Marvel }} | ||
Undecimal marvel tempers out [[385/384]] as well as [[540/539]], and is loosely [[associated temperament|associated]] with [[wizard]]. This extension is natural because of the factorization 225/224 = (385/384)⋅(540/539). [[197edo]] remains useful as a tuning, with the 197e val, but [[166edo]], which among other things has a virtually pure 7, works as well. | |||
In the 13-limit, 225/224 factors as ([[351/350]])⋅([[625/624]]) or ([[325/324]])⋅([[729/728]]). Tempering out 351/350 and 625/624 leads to helios, tempering out 325/324 and 729/728 leads to hecate. Tempering out all of them leads to the 13-limit version of [[catakleismic]]. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
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Lattice basis: | Lattice basis: | ||
: | : ~15/14 length = 1.0364, ~5/4 length = 1.0759 | ||
: | : angle (~15/14, ~5/4) = 104.028° | ||
[[Optimal tuning]] | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.6395{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.7619{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7447{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.639 -0.554 -1.290 +0.827 -0.117 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.6048{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.4538{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.350 -2.860 -0.709 -2.284 }} | |||
[[Minimax tuning]]: | [[Minimax tuning]]: | ||
* [[11-odd-limit]] | * [[11-odd-limit]] | ||
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 4/3 8/9 -1/3 0 -1/9 }}, {{monzo| 8/3 -2/9 1/3 0 -2/9 }}, {{monzo| 3 4/3 0 0 -2/3 }}, {{monzo| 8/3 -2/9 -2/3 0 7/9 }}] | : [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 4/3 8/9 -1/3 0 -1/9 }}, {{monzo| 8/3 -2/9 1/3 0 -2/9 }}, {{monzo| 3 4/3 0 0 -2/3 }}, {{monzo| 8/3 -2/9 -2/3 0 7/9 }}] | ||
: [[ | : [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/5.11/9 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 9, 10, 12e, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53, 72, 166, 197e, 238c, 269ce, 341ce }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 9, 10, 12e, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53, 72, 166, 197e, 238c, 269ce, 341ce }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0. | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.306 | ||
[[Projection pair]]s: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 | [[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 225/32 11 4096/375</code> | ||
[[Complexity spectrum]]: 5/4, 4/3, 7/6, 8/7, 7/5, 6/5, 9/7, 12/11, 9/8, 11/8, 11/9, 10/9, 11/10, 14/11 | [[Complexity spectrum]]: 5/4, 4/3, 7/6, 8/7, 7/5, 6/5, 9/7, 12/11, 9/8, 11/8, 11/9, 10/9, 11/10, 14/11 | ||
Scales: [[marvel22_11]], [[unimarv19]], [[unimarv22]] | Scales: [[marvel22_11]], [[unimarv19]], [[unimarv22]] | ||
{{Databox|Hobbit bases| | {{Databox|[[Hobbit]] bases| | ||
2.3.5 subgroup | 2.3.5 subgroup | ||
* 12: 128/125, 2048/2025 | * 12: 128/125, 2048/2025 | ||
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}} | }} | ||
=== | === Helios === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 -4 | 0 1 0 2 -1 -1 | 0 0 1 2 -3 4 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 -4 | 0 1 0 2 -1 -1 | 0 0 1 2 -3 4 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.8043{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.2057{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.3188{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.8109{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.1177{{c}} | |||
Minimax tuning: | Minimax tuning: | ||
* 13-odd-limit | * 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/9 | ||
* 15-odd-limit | * 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.15/11.15/13 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 22, 31, 50, 53, 72, 103, 175f, 300ceff, 403bceeff, 578bbccdeeefff }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness (Sintel): 0.645 | ||
Complexity spectrum: 5/4, 4/3, 16/15, 15/14, 9/7, 6/5, 7/6, 11/8, 7/5, 9/8, 8/7, 10/9, 12/11, 13/10, 11/10, 15/11, 16/13, 11/9, 15/13, 14/13, 13/12, 14/11, 18/13, 13/11 | Complexity spectrum: 5/4, 4/3, 16/15, 15/14, 9/7, 6/5, 7/6, 11/8, 7/5, 9/8, 8/7, 10/9, 12/11, 13/10, 11/10, 15/11, 16/13, 11/9, 15/13, 14/13, 13/12, 14/11, 18/13, 13/11 | ||
=== Hecate === | === Hecate === | ||
Hecate tempers out [[325/324]], the marveltwin comma, such that [[16/13]] is found by a stack of two ~[[10/9]]'s, similar to how [[8/7]] is found by a stack of two [[15/14]]~[[16/15]]'s. Hecate has a natural extension to include [[prime interval|prime]] [[19/1|19]], where it further tempers out [[400/399]] and [[513/512]], taking advantage of the factorization 225/224 = (400/399)⋅(513/512). For both of these cases [[166edo]] remains an excellent tuning. | |||
==== 13-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.5788{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.3161{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.3471{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.1003{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.1315{{c}} | |||
Minimax tuning: | Minimax tuning: | ||
* 13-odd-limit | * 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.13/5 | ||
* 15-odd-limit | * 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.15/13 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 22f, 31f, 41, 53, 72, 125f, 166, 238cf }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness (Sintel): 0.674 | ||
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 324/25 | Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 324/25</code> | ||
Complexity spectrum: 4/3, 5/4, 16/15, 15/14, 6/5, 9/8, 7/5, 9/7, 7/6, 10/9, 8/7, 18/13, 11/8, 12/11, 13/12, 11/9, 11/10, 15/13, 15/11, 16/13, 13/11, 14/13, 13/10, 14/11 | Complexity spectrum: 4/3, 5/4, 16/15, 15/14, 6/5, 9/8, 7/5, 9/7, 7/6, 10/9, 8/7, 18/13, 11/8, 12/11, 13/12, 11/9, 11/10, 15/13, 15/11, 16/13, 13/11, 14/13, 13/10, 14/11 | ||
==== 2.3.5.7.11.13.19 subgroup ==== | ===== 2.3.5.7.11.13.19 subgroup ===== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.19 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.19 | ||
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 400/399 | Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 400/399 | ||
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 9 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 -3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 0 }} | |||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.4716{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.4395{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.2779{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.2002{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.1136{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 53, 72, 94, 113, 166 }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness (Sintel): 0.756 | ||
==== Apotropaia ==== | ==== Apotropaia ==== | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 18 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 0 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 -6 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 18 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 0 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 -6 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.6057{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.3157{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.2243{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.0877{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.9709{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 53g, 72, 166g, 238cfg }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness (Sintel): 0.827 | ||
===== 19-limit ===== | ===== 19-limit ===== | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 18 9 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 0 -3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 -6 0 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 18 9 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 0 -3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 -6 0 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.4927{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.4506{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.1291{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.2007{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.9404{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 53g, 72, 94, 113, 166g }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.01 | ||
==== Enodia ==== | ==== Enodia ==== | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 -13 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 2 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 6 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 -13 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 2 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 6 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.6165{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.3259{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.5032{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.0949{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.3140{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41g, 53, 72, 166g, 238cfg }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness (Sintel): 0.872 | ||
===== 19-limit ===== | ===== 19-limit ===== | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 -13 9 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 2 -3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 6 0 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 -13 9 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 2 -3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 6 0 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.5038{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.4654{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.4549{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.2113{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.3052{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41g, 53, 72, 94, 125f, 166g }} | ||
Badness: 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.05 | ||
=== Marvell === | === Marvell === | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 -29 | 0 1 0 2 -1 6 | 0 0 1 2 -3 10 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 -29 | 0 1 0 2 -1 6 | 0 0 1 2 -3 10 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.6404{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.7675{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7772{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.6113{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.4925{{c}} | |||
Minimax tuning: | Minimax tuning: | ||
* 13-odd-limit | * 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/5.11/9 | ||
* 15-odd-limit | * 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.15/13 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 22f, 31, 63, 72, 103, 166, 238cf, 269ce, 341cef }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness (Sintel): 0.806 | ||
=== Isis === | === Isis === | ||
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Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 385/384 | Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 385/384 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 17 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -3 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 17 | 0 1 0 2 -1 -4 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -3 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1824{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.0223{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.3028{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9276{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.2283{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 19f, 22, 31, 41, 53, 84e, 94 }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness (Sintel): 0.810 | ||
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 131072/10125 | Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 131072/10125</code> | ||
=== Deecee === | === Deecee === | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 27 | 0 1 0 2 -1 -3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -8 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 27 | 0 1 0 2 -1 -3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -8 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.7533{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.8957{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.0580{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.7184{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.6611{{c}} | |||
Minimax tuning: | Minimax tuning: | ||
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* 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup (unchanged-interval basis): 2.3.13/5 | * 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup (unchanged-interval basis): 2.3.13/5 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 19f, 22, 31f, 41, 63, 72, 185cf, 257cff }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness (Sintel): 0.861 | ||
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 134217728/10546875 | Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 134217728/10546875</code> | ||
=== Tripod === | === Tripod === | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 -8 | 0 1 0 2 -1 3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 3 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 -8 | 0 1 0 2 -1 3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 3 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.4789{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.5125{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.1304{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.4041{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.9166{{c}} | |||
Minimax tuning: | Minimax tuning: | ||
* 13-odd-limit | * 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13/11 | ||
* 15-odd-limit | * 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.5/3.13/11 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 10, 19, 22f, 31, 41, 72f, 91 }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness (Sintel): 0.697 | ||
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 3375/256 | Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 3375/256</code> | ||
=== Marvelcat === | === Marvelcat === | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 -1 | 0 2 0 4 -2 3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 1 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 -1 | 0 2 0 4 -2 3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 1 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~26/15, ~5 | |||
: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.7720{{c}}, ~3/2 = 950.8976{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8283{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~26/15 = 950.4265{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.4790{{c}} | |||
Optimal | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 10, 19, 43e, 44, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 0.935 | |||
== Prodigy == | |||
Prodigy tempers out [[441/440]] and shrinks [[243/242]], [[385/384|384/385]], [[1029/1024|1024/1029]] and [[2401/2400|2400/2401]] down to the same tiny interval. Hence in practice it probably makes the most sense to temper this out as well, leading to [[miracle]]. This, however, does not render it pointless to consider prodigy; for one thing, scales in prodigy such as [[hobbit]] scales translate into interesting scales for miracle. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
[[Comma list]]: | [[Comma list]]: 225/224, 441/440 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 - | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 -13 | 0 1 0 2 6 | 0 0 1 2 3 }} | ||
Map to lattice: [{{val| 0 -1 | Map to lattice: [{{val| 0 0 -1 -2 -3 }}, {{val| 0 1 -1 0 3 }}] | ||
Lattice basis: | Lattice basis: | ||
: | : ~15/14 length = 0.9111, ~3/2 length = 0.9477 | ||
: | : angle (~15/14, ~3/2) = 65.933° | ||
[[Optimal tuning]] | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.7854{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.2562{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7624{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.785 -0.913 -0.980 -0.003 +0.721 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.8610{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7724{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -2.094 -2.541 -1.559 -0.835 }} | |||
[[Minimax tuning]]: [[11-odd-limit]] [ | [[Minimax tuning]]: | ||
* [[11-odd-limit]] | |||
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 13/12 1/2 -1/4 0 1/12 }}, {{monzo| 13/6 -1 1/2 0 1/6 }}, {{monzo| 3/2 -1 1/2 0 1/2 }}, {{monzo| 0 0 0 0 1 }}] | |||
: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/5.11 | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 12, 19e, 29, 31, 41, 60e, 72, 247c, 319bcde, 391bcde, 463bccde }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0. | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.402 | ||
[[Projection pair]]s: 7 225/32 11 | [[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 225/32 11 91125/8192</code> | ||
Scales: [[ | Scales: [[prodigy11]], [[prodigy12]], [[prodigy29]] | ||
{{Databox|Hobbit bases| | |||
2.3.5 subgroup | |||
* 31: 81/80, 34171875/33554432 | |||
* 41: 34171875/33554432, 32805/32768 | |||
}} | |||
=== | === 13-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 105/104, 196/195, 352/351 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -13 -8 | 0 1 0 2 6 3 | 0 0 1 2 3 3 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.8252{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.8823{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.6647{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.4689{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.6687{{c}} | |||
Optimal | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 12f, 19e, 29, 31, 41, 60e, 72f, 101cd }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 0.689 | |||
=== Prodigious === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 225/224, 364/363, 441/440 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -13 -23 | 0 1 0 2 6 11 | 0 0 1 2 3 4 }} | |||
== | Optimal tunings: | ||
{{ | * WE: ~2 = 1200.6284{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.7075{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.4599{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.3302{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.5030{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 29, 31f, 41, 72, 185cf, 257cff }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.841 | |||
=== Prodigal === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 225/224, 351/350, 441/440 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -13 -4 | 0 1 0 2 6 -1 | 0 0 1 2 3 4 }} | |||
{{ | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.7798{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.9410{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.3494{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.5538{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.3496{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19e, 31, 53e, 60eff, 72, 103, 175f }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.831 | |||
=== | === Protannic === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 1001/1000 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -13 21 | 0 1 0 2 6 -8 | 0 0 1 2 3 -2 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.9450{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.1045{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8716{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.4224{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.9828{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 29, 31, 43, 60e, 72, 103, 175f, 482bccddeefff, 554bbccddeeeffff }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.891 | |||
==== 17-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | |||
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 375/374, 441/440 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -13 21 12 | 0 1 0 2 6 -8 -5 | 0 0 1 2 3 -2 0 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.9342{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.1708{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7444{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.4849{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8744{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 29g, 31, 43, 60e, 72, 103, 175f, 307bcdeeffg, 379bccdeeffgg, 482bccddeefffgg, 554bbccddeeeffffgg }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.734 | |||
== Minerva == | |||
Minerva tempers out [[99/98]] as well as [[176/175]]. It may be described as 12 & 22 & 31, and is loosely [[associated temperament|associated]] with [[würschmidt]]. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
[[Comma list]]: | [[Comma list]]: 99/98, 176/175 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 -9 | 0 1 0 2 2 | 0 0 1 2 4 }} | |||
Map to lattice: [{{val| 0 -1 0 -2 -2 }}, {{val| 0 -1 1 0 2 }}] | |||
Lattice basis: | |||
: ~16/15 length = 0.8997, ~5/4 length = 1.0457 | |||
: angle (~16/15, ~5/4) = 98.6044° | |||
{{ | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.1086{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.3226{{c}}, ~5/4 = 386.5931{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.109 -1.524 +0.497 +5.114 -4.192 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.3006{{c}}, ~5/4 = 386.5785{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.654 +0.265 +4.932 -4.403 }} | |||
[[ | [[Minimax tuning]]: [[11-odd-limit]] [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.7/5.11/9 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 9, 12, 19e, 22, 31, 53, 84e, 96, 127 }} | |||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.458 | |||
[[ | [[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 225/32 11 5625/512</code> | ||
[[ | Scales: [[minerva12]], [[minerva22x]] | ||
=== | === Athene === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 275/273 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 - | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -9 -4 | 0 1 0 2 2 -1 | 0 0 1 2 4 4 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9127{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.1832{{c}}, ~5/4 = 385.9313{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.2143{{c}}, ~5/4 = 385.9336{{c}} | |||
Minimax tuning: | Minimax tuning: | ||
* 13-odd-limit | * 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/7 | ||
* 15-odd-limit | * 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/7 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19e, 22, 31, 53, 84e, 118d }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.765 | |||
Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 5625/512 13 625/48</code> | |||
== Apollo == | |||
{{See also| Ptolemismic clan #Apollo }} | |||
[[File:Lattice Apollo.png|thumb|Lattice for apollo.]] | |||
Apollo tempers out not only [[100/99]] but [[896/891]]. Note that marvel tempers together [[25/24]] and [[28/27]], and apollo further equates it with [[33/32]] via the vanishing of 100/99. This makes it a weak extension of [[parapyth]], and [[associated temperament|associates]] it with [[magic]]. The lattice structure is very compact, comparable to that of [[ares]], from which apollo only differs in the mapping of [[prime interval|prime]] [[7/1|7]]. | |||
The canonical [[13-limit]] extension is implied by parapyth, tempering out [[352/351]] and [[364/363]], but there are a number of other extenions to consider, these being called phoebus and musagetes, after epithets of Apollo. Phoebus tempers out [[105/104]] and finds ~[[16/13]] as a stack of three [[secor]]s. Musagetes tempers out [[144/143]] and conflates 16/13 and [[11/9]], which in this case is simply a stack of two ~[[10/9]]'s. These extensions are [[support]]ed by 13-limit [[magic]], unlike the canonical one. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, | [[Comma list]]: 100/99, 225/224 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 2 | 0 1 0 2 -2 | 0 0 1 2 2 }} | |||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | |||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.8250{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.3820{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.5476{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.175 +1.252 -5.116 +0.858 +4.313 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.4612{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.5071{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.506 -4.807 +1.111 +4.774 }} | |||
[[Minimax tuning]]: [[11-odd-limit]] [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.7/5.11/9 | |||
{{ | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 19, 22, 34d, 41, 104 }} | ||
[[ | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.637 | ||
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 225/32 11 100/9</code> | |||
[[ | Scales: [[apollo wholetone]], [[indigo17]] | ||
=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: 225/224, 275/273 | Comma list: 100/99, 225/224, 275/273 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 2 7 | 0 1 0 2 -2 -5 | 0 0 1 2 2 2 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6919{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.8176{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.4372{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.9853{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.3579{{c}} | |||
Minimax tuning: 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/9 | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19f, 22, 29, 34d, 41, 63, 104 }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 0.964 | ||
Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 100/9 13 3200/243</code> | |||
== | === Phoebus === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 100/99, 105/104, 196/195 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 2 1 | 0 1 0 2 -2 3 | 0 0 1 2 2 3 }} | |||
{{ | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.3724{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.5274{{c}}, ~5/4 = 379.6345{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.3357{{c}}, ~5/4 = 379.6830{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19, 22f, 29, 41 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.886 | |||
=== Musagetes === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 100/99, 144/143, 225/224 | |||
{{ | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 2 2 | 0 1 0 2 -2 4 | 0 0 1 2 2 -2 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.2695{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.5589{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.7715{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.7998{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.7740{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 22f, 34d, 41, 75e, 94e, 116ef }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.14 | |||
[[ | == Potassium == | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 45/44, 56/55 | |||
= | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 -2 | 0 1 0 2 2 | 0 0 1 2 1 }} | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | |||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.7106{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.0036{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.9572{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.289 -6.241 -1.935 -7.194 +25.068 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.0586{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.9472{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -5.896 -1.367 -6.814 +25.746 }} | |||
[[Minimax tuning]]: [[11-odd-limit]] [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/7.11 | |||
Optimal | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 9, 10, 12, 19, 31e }} | ||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.557 | |||
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 225/32 11 45/4</code> | |||
=== | === 13-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, 78/77 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 - | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -2 -8 | 0 1 0 2 2 3 | 0 0 1 2 1 3 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.8192{{c}}, ~3/2 = 695.9054{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.6205{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 695.9480{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.6372{{c}} | |||
Minimax tuning: | |||
* 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13/9 | |||
* 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13/9 | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 10, 12f, 19, 31e }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.686 | |||
Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 45/4 13 3375/256</code> | |||
== Malcolm == | |||
{{Redirect|Malcolm|{{w|Alexander Malcolm (writer on music)|Alexander Malcolm}}'s JI scale|Malcolm (scale)}} | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 2200/2187 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 -3 | 0 1 0 2 7 | 0 0 1 2 -2 }} | |||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | |||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.5261{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.1990{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.5759{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.526 +0.770 -2.686 +1.250 -1.077 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.0535{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.6222{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.098 -3.692 +0.525 -2.188 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12e, 19e, 34d, 41, 53, 60e, 94, 229c, 248ce, 289cce }} | |||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.50 | |||
=== 13-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 325/324 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -3 2 | 0 1 0 2 7 4 | 0 0 1 2 -2 -2 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2427{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.1575{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.0704{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.0882{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.0630{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12e, 19e, 34d, 41, 53, 94 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.00 | |||
Scales: [[malco]] | |||
== Fantastic == | |||
Besides 4375/4356, fantastic also tempers out [[9801/9800]] and splits the octave in two. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
| Line 567: | Line 675: | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 0 -10 -7 | 0 1 0 2 0 | 0 0 1 2 3 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 0 -10 -7 | 0 1 0 2 0 | 0 0 1 2 3 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~5 | : mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~5 | ||
[[Optimal tuning]] | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~99/70 = 600.2896{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.9624{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.4829{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.579 -0.413 -1.672 +0.644 +0.579 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~99/70 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.8160{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.5350{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.139 -2.779 -0.124 -0.713 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 22, 34d, 50, 60e, 72, 166, 238c, 310c }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 22, 34d, 50, 60e, 72, 166, 238c, 310c }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0. | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.893 | ||
== Hestia == | == Hestia == | ||
Named by [[Graham Breed]] in 2011, hestia was found to be locally efficient in the higher limits among all rank-3 extensions of marvel<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_19673.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Artemis and friends'']</ref>, although it is a [[weak extension]]. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
| Line 582: | Line 695: | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 9 | 0 2 0 4 -7 | 0 0 1 2 0 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 9 | 0 2 0 4 -7 | 0 0 1 2 0 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~400/231, ~5 | : mapping generators: ~2, ~400/231, ~5 | ||
[[Optimal tuning]] | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.6417{{c}}, ~400/231 = 950.6555{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8518{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.642 -0.644 -1.179 +0.858 -0.131 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~400/231 = 950.1211{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.9530{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.712 -2.361 -0.436 -2.165 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 29, 43, 53, 72, 197e, 269ce, 341ce | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 29, 43, 53, 72, 197e, 269ce, 341ce }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 1. | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.845 | ||
=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
| Line 598: | Line 714: | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 9 -1 | 0 2 0 4 -7 3 | 0 0 1 2 0 1 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 9 -1 | 0 2 0 4 -7 3 | 0 0 1 2 0 1 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.8238{{c}}, ~26/15 = 950.8873{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8191{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~26/15 = 950.2108{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.9486{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 29, 43, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 0.993 | ||
== Morfil == | == Morfil == | ||
| Line 609: | Line 727: | ||
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 1331/1323 | [[Comma list]]: 225/224, 1331/1323 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -2 -9 -6 | 0 1 2 6 5 | 0 0 3 6 4 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~55/42 | |||
: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.5931{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.2447{{c}}, ~55/42 = 460.8465{{c}} | |||
[[ | : [[error map]]: {{val| +0.593 -0.117 -1.285 +1.942 -2.302 }} | ||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.1108{{c}}, ~55/42 = 460.5488{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.844 -2.446 +1.131 -3.569 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 29, 31, 60e, 91e, 94, 125 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 29, 31, 60e, 91e, 94, 125 }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 1. | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.38 | ||
== | == Subgroup extensions == | ||
=== Char === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.17 | |||
Comma list: 120/119, 225/224 | |||
{{ | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 8 | 0 1 0 2 -1 | 0 0 1 2 -1 }} | ||
: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3681{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.3669{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.9641{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.6286{{c}}, ~5/4 = 385.0841{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 10, 12, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.381 | |||
=== Devimarvel === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.19 | |||
Comma list: 225/224, 400/399 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 9 | 0 1 0 2 -3 | 0 0 1 2 0 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.3454{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.1728{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7499{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.9546{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7912{{c}} | |||
Optimal | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 12, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53, 72, 94, 113, 125, 291c }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 0.310 | |||
== References == | |||
<references /> | |||
[[Category:Temperament families]] | [[Category:Temperament families]] | ||
[[Category:Marvel family| ]] <!-- main article --> | [[Category:Marvel family| ]] <!-- main article --> | ||
[[Category:Rank 3]] | [[Category:Rank 3]] | ||
Latest revision as of 07:47, 19 May 2026
- This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.
The marvel family of rank-3 temperaments tempers out the 7-limit marvel comma (ratio: 225/224, monzo: [-5 2 2 -1⟩), also known as septimal kleisma. These temperaments hence equate 16/15 and 15/14, or equivalently they equate two 5/4's and one 14/9. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common equal and rank-2 temperaments.
The marvel comma can also be viewed as a comma of the 2.9.25.7 subgroup. Hence it is tempered out by any subset edos of marvel-supporting edos that have this subgroup, such as 11edo and 17edo which are subsets of 22edo and 34edo (when using the 34d val) which temper out the marvel comma.
Marvel
The head of the marvel family is marvel, which tempers out 225/224. Marvel has a normal generator list of {2, 3, 5}; hence a 5-limit scale can be converted to marvel simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent marvel tuning, is given by 197edo.
Little is gained in tuning accuracy by not tempering out 4375/4374 as well as 225/224, leading to catakleismic, with which it shares the optimal patent val. Another temperament which does little damage to tuning accuracy is compton, for which 240edo may be used. See Marvel temperaments for some other rank-2 temperaments.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 225/224
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5], ⟨0 1 0 2], ⟨0 0 1 2]]
- mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5
Map to lattice: [⟨0 0 -1 -2], ⟨0 1 -1 0]]
Lattice basis:
- ~15/14 length = 1.256, ~3/2 length = 1.369
- angle (~15/14, ~3/2) = 106.958°
- WE: ~2 = 1200.5971 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.7560 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8285 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.597 -0.602 -1.291 +0.940]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.6222 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8540 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -1.333 -2.460 +0.127]
- 7-odd-limit: 3 and 5 1/4-comma flat, 7 just
- [[1 0 0 0⟩, [5/4 1/2 -1/2 1/4⟩, [5/4 -1/2 1/2 1/4⟩, [0 0 0 1⟩]
- unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.5/3.7
- 9-odd-limit: 3 1/6-comma flat, 5 1/3-comma flat, 7 just
- [[1 0 0 0⟩, [5/6 2/3 -1/3 1/6⟩, [5/3 -2/3 1/3 1/3⟩, [0 0 0 1⟩]
- unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/5.7
Optimal ET sequence: 9, 10, 12, 19, 31, 41, 53, 72, 197, 269c
Badness (Sintel): 0.161
Projection pairs: 7 225/32
Complexity spectrum: 4/3, 5/4, 7/5, 7/6, 8/7, 6/5, 9/8, 9/7, 10/9
Scales: marvel9, marvel10, marvel11, marvel12, marvel19, marvel22, pump12_1, pump12_2, pump13, pump14, pump15, pump16, pump17, pump18, marvel wholetone
2.3.5 subgroup
- 8: 16/15, 250/243
- 9: 135/128, 128/125
- 10: 25/24, 2048/2025
- 11: 135/128, 2048/1875
- 12: 2048/2025, 128/125
- 15: 128/125, 32768/30375
- 17: 25/24, 2278125/2097152
- 19: 16875/16384, 81/80
- 21: 128/125, 273375/262144
- 22: 2048/2025, 3125/3072
- 29: 16875/16384, 32805/32768
- 31: 81/80, 34171875/33554432
- 41: 34171875/33554432, 3125/3072
Overview to extensions
The second comma of the normal comma list defines which 11-limit family member we are looking at. 4125/4096 gives unidecimal marvel; 91125/90112 gives prodigy; 5632/5625 gives minerva. These and many others considered below use the same generators as marvel.
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include
- Supernatural (+245/243) → Keemic family
- Artemis (+121/120) → Biyatismic clan
- Spectacle (+243/242) → Rastmic rank-3 clan
- Marvelpine (+4000/3993) → Wizardharry clan
- Mirage (+243/242, +385/384) → Rastmic rank-3 clan
- Catakleismoid (+4375/4374) → Kleismic rank-3 family
Undecimal marvel
Undecimal marvel tempers out 385/384 as well as 540/539, and is loosely associated with wizard. This extension is natural because of the factorization 225/224 = (385/384)⋅(540/539). 197edo remains useful as a tuning, with the 197e val, but 166edo, which among other things has a virtually pure 7, works as well.
In the 13-limit, 225/224 factors as (351/350)⋅(625/624) or (325/324)⋅(729/728). Tempering out 351/350 and 625/624 leads to helios, tempering out 325/324 and 729/728 leads to hecate. Tempering out all of them leads to the 13-limit version of catakleismic.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3]]
Mapping to lattice: [⟨0 -1 0 -2 1], ⟨0 -1 1 0 -2]]
Lattice basis:
- ~15/14 length = 1.0364, ~5/4 length = 1.0759
- angle (~15/14, ~5/4) = 104.028°
- WE: ~2 = 1200.6395 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.7619 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7447 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.639 -0.554 -1.290 +0.827 -0.117]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.6048 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.4538 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -1.350 -2.860 -0.709 -2.284]
- [[1 0 0 0 0⟩, [4/3 8/9 -1/3 0 -1/9⟩, [8/3 -2/9 1/3 0 -2/9⟩, [3 4/3 0 0 -2/3⟩, [8/3 -2/9 -2/3 0 7/9⟩]
- unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/5.11/9
Optimal ET sequence: 9, 10, 12e, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53, 72, 166, 197e, 238c, 269ce, 341ce
Badness (Sintel): 0.306
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375
Complexity spectrum: 5/4, 4/3, 7/6, 8/7, 7/5, 6/5, 9/7, 12/11, 9/8, 11/8, 11/9, 10/9, 11/10, 14/11
Scales: marvel22_11, unimarv19, unimarv22
2.3.5 subgroup
- 12: 128/125, 2048/2025
- 15: 128/125, 32768/30375
- 19: 16875/16384, 81/80
- 22: 2048/2025, 2109375/2097152
- 31: 2109375/2097152, 81/80
- 41: 3125/3072, 34171875/33554432
Helios
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 351/350, 385/384
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12 -4], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1 -1], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3 4]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.8043 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.2057 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.3188 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.8109 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.1177 ¢
Minimax tuning:
- 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/9
- 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.15/11.15/13
Optimal ET sequence: 19, 22, 31, 50, 53, 72, 103, 175f, 300ceff, 403bceeff, 578bbccdeeefff
Badness (Sintel): 0.645
Complexity spectrum: 5/4, 4/3, 16/15, 15/14, 9/7, 6/5, 7/6, 11/8, 7/5, 9/8, 8/7, 10/9, 12/11, 13/10, 11/10, 15/11, 16/13, 11/9, 15/13, 14/13, 13/12, 14/11, 18/13, 13/11
Hecate
Hecate tempers out 325/324, the marveltwin comma, such that 16/13 is found by a stack of two ~10/9's, similar to how 8/7 is found by a stack of two 15/14~16/15's. Hecate has a natural extension to include prime 19, where it further tempers out 400/399 and 513/512, taking advantage of the factorization 225/224 = (400/399)⋅(513/512). For both of these cases 166edo remains an excellent tuning.
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12 2], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1 4], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3 -2]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.5788 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.3161 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.3471 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.1003 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.1315 ¢
Minimax tuning:
- 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.13/5
- 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.15/13
Optimal ET sequence: 19, 22f, 31f, 41, 53, 72, 125f, 166, 238cf
Badness (Sintel): 0.674
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 324/25
Complexity spectrum: 4/3, 5/4, 16/15, 15/14, 6/5, 9/8, 7/5, 9/7, 7/6, 10/9, 8/7, 18/13, 11/8, 12/11, 13/12, 11/9, 11/10, 15/13, 15/11, 16/13, 13/11, 14/13, 13/10, 14/11
2.3.5.7.11.13.19 subgroup
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.19
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 400/399
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12 2 9], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1 4 -3], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3 -2 0]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.4716 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.4395 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.2779 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.2002 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.1136 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 41, 53, 72, 94, 113, 166
Badness (Sintel): 0.756
Apotropaia
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 595/594
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12 2 18], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1 4 0], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3 -2 -6]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.6057 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.3157 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.2243 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.0877 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.9709 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 41, 53g, 72, 166g, 238cfg
Badness (Sintel): 0.827
19-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 400/399, 595/594
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12 2 18 9], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1 4 0 -3], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3 -2 -6 0]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.4927 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.4506 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.1291 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.2007 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.9404 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 41, 53g, 72, 94, 113, 166g
Badness (Sintel): 1.01
Enodia
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 375/374, 385/384
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12 2 -13], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1 4 2], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3 -2 6]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.6165 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.3259 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.5032 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.0949 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.3140 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 41g, 53, 72, 166g, 238cfg
Badness (Sintel): 0.872
19-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 375/374, 385/384, 400/399
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12 2 -13 9], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1 4 2 -3], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3 -2 6 0]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.5038 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.4654 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.4549 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.2113 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.3052 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 41g, 53, 72, 94, 125f, 166g
Badness (Sintel): 1.05
Marvell
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 1573/1568
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12 -29], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1 6], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3 10]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.6404 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.7675 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7772 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.6113 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.4925 ¢
Minimax tuning:
- 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/5.11/9
- 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.15/13
Optimal ET sequence: 9, 22f, 31, 63, 72, 103, 166, 238cf, 269ce, 341cef
Badness (Sintel): 0.806
Isis
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 385/384
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12 17], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1 -4], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3 -3]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.1824 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.0223 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.3028 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.9276 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.2283 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 19f, 22, 31, 41, 53, 84e, 94
Badness (Sintel): 0.810
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 131072/10125
Deecee
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 364/363, 385/384
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12 27], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1 -3], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3 -8]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.7533 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.8957 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.0580 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.7184 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.6611 ¢
Minimax tuning:
- 13-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup (unchanged-interval basis): 2.9/5.13/9
- 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup (unchanged-interval basis): 2.3.13/5
Optimal ET sequence: 9, 19f, 22, 31f, 41, 63, 72, 185cf, 257cff
Badness (Sintel): 0.861
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 134217728/10546875
Tripod
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 196/195
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12 -8], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1 3], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3 3]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.4789 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.5125 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.1304 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.4041 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.9166 ¢
Minimax tuning:
- 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13/11
- 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.5/3.13/11
Optimal ET sequence: 9, 10, 19, 22f, 31, 41, 72f, 91
Badness (Sintel): 0.697
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 3375/256
Marvelcat
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 385/384
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 12 -1], ⟨0 2 0 4 -2 3], ⟨0 0 1 2 -3 1]]
- mapping generators: ~2, ~26/15, ~5
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.7720 ¢, ~3/2 = 950.8976 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8283 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~26/15 = 950.4265 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.4790 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 9, 10, 19, 43e, 44, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef
Badness (Sintel): 0.935
Prodigy
Prodigy tempers out 441/440 and shrinks 243/242, 384/385, 1024/1029 and 2400/2401 down to the same tiny interval. Hence in practice it probably makes the most sense to temper this out as well, leading to miracle. This, however, does not render it pointless to consider prodigy; for one thing, scales in prodigy such as hobbit scales translate into interesting scales for miracle.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 -13], ⟨0 1 0 2 6], ⟨0 0 1 2 3]]
Map to lattice: [⟨0 0 -1 -2 -3], ⟨0 1 -1 0 3]]
Lattice basis:
- ~15/14 length = 0.9111, ~3/2 length = 0.9477
- angle (~15/14, ~3/2) = 65.933°
- WE: ~2 = 1200.7854 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.2562 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7624 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.785 -0.913 -0.980 -0.003 +0.721]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.8610 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7724 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -2.094 -2.541 -1.559 -0.835]
- [[1 0 0 0 0⟩, [13/12 1/2 -1/4 0 1/12⟩, [13/6 -1 1/2 0 1/6⟩, [3/2 -1 1/2 0 1/2⟩, [0 0 0 0 1⟩]
- unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/5.11
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 12, 19e, 29, 31, 41, 60e, 72, 247c, 319bcde, 391bcde, 463bccde
Badness (Sintel): 0.402
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 91125/8192
Scales: prodigy11, prodigy12, prodigy29
2.3.5 subgroup
- 31: 81/80, 34171875/33554432
- 41: 34171875/33554432, 32805/32768
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 105/104, 196/195, 352/351
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 -13 -8], ⟨0 1 0 2 6 3], ⟨0 0 1 2 3 3]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.8252 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.8823 ¢, ~5/4 = 381.6647 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.4689 ¢, ~5/4 = 381.6687 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 12f, 19e, 29, 31, 41, 60e, 72f, 101cd
Badness (Sintel): 0.689
Prodigious
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 364/363, 441/440
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 -13 -23], ⟨0 1 0 2 6 11], ⟨0 0 1 2 3 4]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.6284 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.7075 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.4599 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.3302 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.5030 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 12f, 29, 31f, 41, 72, 185cf, 257cff
Badness (Sintel): 0.841
Prodigal
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 351/350, 441/440
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 -13 -4], ⟨0 1 0 2 6 -1], ⟨0 0 1 2 3 4]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.7798 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.9410 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.3494 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.5538 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.3496 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 12f, 19e, 31, 53e, 60eff, 72, 103, 175f
Badness (Sintel): 0.831
Protannic
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 1001/1000
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 -13 21], ⟨0 1 0 2 6 -8], ⟨0 0 1 2 3 -2]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.9450 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.1045 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8716 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.4224 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.9828 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 29, 31, 43, 60e, 72, 103, 175f, 482bccddeefff, 554bbccddeeeffff
Badness (Sintel): 0.891
17-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 375/374, 441/440
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 -13 21 12], ⟨0 1 0 2 6 -8 -5], ⟨0 0 1 2 3 -2 0]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.9342 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.1708 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7444 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.4849 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8744 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 29g, 31, 43, 60e, 72, 103, 175f, 307bcdeeffg, 379bccdeeffgg, 482bccddeefffgg, 554bbccddeeeffffgg
Badness (Sintel): 0.734
Minerva
Minerva tempers out 99/98 as well as 176/175. It may be described as 12 & 22 & 31, and is loosely associated with würschmidt.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 99/98, 176/175
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 -9], ⟨0 1 0 2 2], ⟨0 0 1 2 4]]
Map to lattice: [⟨0 -1 0 -2 -2], ⟨0 -1 1 0 2]]
Lattice basis:
- ~16/15 length = 0.8997, ~5/4 length = 1.0457
- angle (~16/15, ~5/4) = 98.6044°
- WE: ~2 = 1200.1086 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.3226 ¢, ~5/4 = 386.5931 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.109 -1.524 +0.497 +5.114 -4.192]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.3006 ¢, ~5/4 = 386.5785 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -1.654 +0.265 +4.932 -4.403]
Minimax tuning: 11-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7/5.11/9
Optimal ET sequence: 9, 12, 19e, 22, 31, 53, 84e, 96, 127
Badness (Sintel): 0.458
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 5625/512
Scales: minerva12, minerva22x
Athene
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 275/273
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 -9 -4], ⟨0 1 0 2 2 -1], ⟨0 0 1 2 4 4]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1199.9127 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.1832 ¢, ~5/4 = 385.9313 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.2143 ¢, ~5/4 = 385.9336 ¢
Minimax tuning:
- 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/7
- 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/7
Optimal ET sequence: 12f, 19e, 22, 31, 53, 84e, 118d
Badness (Sintel): 0.765
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 5625/512 13 625/48
Apollo

Apollo tempers out not only 100/99 but 896/891. Note that marvel tempers together 25/24 and 28/27, and apollo further equates it with 33/32 via the vanishing of 100/99. This makes it a weak extension of parapyth, and associates it with magic. The lattice structure is very compact, comparable to that of ares, from which apollo only differs in the mapping of prime 7.
The canonical 13-limit extension is implied by parapyth, tempering out 352/351 and 364/363, but there are a number of other extenions to consider, these being called phoebus and musagetes, after epithets of Apollo. Phoebus tempers out 105/104 and finds ~16/13 as a stack of three secors. Musagetes tempers out 144/143 and conflates 16/13 and 11/9, which in this case is simply a stack of two ~10/9's. These extensions are supported by 13-limit magic, unlike the canonical one.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 100/99, 225/224
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 2], ⟨0 1 0 2 -2], ⟨0 0 1 2 2]]
- WE: ~2 = 1199.8250 ¢, ~3/2 = 703.3820 ¢, ~5/4 = 381.5476 ¢
- error map: ⟨-0.175 +1.252 -5.116 +0.858 +4.313]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 703.4612 ¢, ~5/4 = 381.5071 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +1.506 -4.807 +1.111 +4.774]
Minimax tuning: 11-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7/5.11/9
Optimal ET sequence: 12, 19, 22, 34d, 41, 104
Badness (Sintel): 0.637
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 100/9
Scales: apollo wholetone, indigo17
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 100/99, 225/224, 275/273
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 2 7], ⟨0 1 0 2 -2 -5], ⟨0 0 1 2 2 2]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1199.6919 ¢, ~3/2 = 703.8176 ¢, ~5/4 = 381.4372 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 703.9853 ¢, ~5/4 = 381.3579 ¢
Minimax tuning: 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/9
Optimal ET sequence: 12f, 19f, 22, 29, 34d, 41, 63, 104
Badness (Sintel): 0.964
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 100/9 13 3200/243
Phoebus
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 100/99, 105/104, 196/195
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 2 1], ⟨0 1 0 2 -2 3], ⟨0 0 1 2 2 3]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.3724 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.5274 ¢, ~5/4 = 379.6345 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.3357 ¢, ~5/4 = 379.6830 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 12f, 19, 22f, 29, 41
Badness (Sintel): 0.886
Musagetes
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 100/99, 144/143, 225/224
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 2 2], ⟨0 1 0 2 -2 4], ⟨0 0 1 2 2 -2]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1199.2695 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.5589 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.7715 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.7998 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.7740 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 19, 22f, 34d, 41, 75e, 94e, 116ef
Badness (Sintel): 1.14
Potassium
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 45/44, 56/55
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 -2], ⟨0 1 0 2 2], ⟨0 0 1 2 1]]
- WE: ~2 = 1199.7106 ¢, ~3/2 = 696.0036 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.9572 ¢
- error map: ⟨-0.289 -6.241 -1.935 -7.194 +25.068]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 696.0586 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.9472 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -5.896 -1.367 -6.814 +25.746]
Minimax tuning: 11-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.11
Optimal ET sequence: 7d, 9, 10, 12, 19, 31e
Badness (Sintel): 0.557
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 45/4
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, 78/77
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 -2 -8], ⟨0 1 0 2 2 3], ⟨0 0 1 2 1 3]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1199.8192 ¢, ~3/2 = 695.9054 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.6205 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 695.9480 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.6372 ¢
Minimax tuning:
- 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13/9
- 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13/9
Optimal ET sequence: 9, 10, 12f, 19, 31e
Badness (Sintel): 0.686
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 45/4 13 3375/256
Malcolm
- "Malcolm" redirects here. For Alexander Malcolm's JI scale, see Malcolm (scale).
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 225/224, 2200/2187
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 -3], ⟨0 1 0 2 7], ⟨0 0 1 2 -2]]
- WE: ~2 = 1199.5261 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.1990 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.5759 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.526 +0.770 -2.686 +1.250 -1.077]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.0535 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.6222 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +0.098 -3.692 +0.525 -2.188]
Optimal ET sequence: 12e, 19e, 34d, 41, 53, 60e, 94, 229c, 248ce, 289cce
Badness (Sintel): 1.50
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 325/324
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 -3 2], ⟨0 1 0 2 7 4], ⟨0 0 1 2 -2 -2]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.2427 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.1575 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.0704 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.0882 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.0630 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 12e, 19e, 34d, 41, 53, 94
Badness (Sintel): 1.00
Scales: malco
Fantastic
Besides 4375/4356, fantastic also tempers out 9801/9800 and splits the octave in two.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 225/224, 4375/4356
Mapping: [⟨2 0 0 -10 -7], ⟨0 1 0 2 0], ⟨0 0 1 2 3]]
- mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~5
- WE: ~99/70 = 600.2896 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.9624 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.4829 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.579 -0.413 -1.672 +0.644 +0.579]
- CWE: ~99/70 = 600.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.8160 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.5350 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -1.139 -2.779 -0.124 -0.713]
Optimal ET sequence: 12, 22, 34d, 50, 60e, 72, 166, 238c, 310c
Badness (Sintel): 0.893
Hestia
Named by Graham Breed in 2011, hestia was found to be locally efficient in the higher limits among all rank-3 extensions of marvel[1], although it is a weak extension.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 225/224, 125000/124509
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 9], ⟨0 2 0 4 -7], ⟨0 0 1 2 0]]
- mapping generators: ~2, ~400/231, ~5
- WE: ~2 = 1200.6417 ¢, ~400/231 = 950.6555 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8518 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.642 -0.644 -1.179 +0.858 -0.131]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~400/231 = 950.1211 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.9530 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -1.712 -2.361 -0.436 -2.165]
Optimal ET sequence: 19, 29, 43, 53, 72, 197e, 269ce, 341ce
Badness (Sintel): 1.845
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 1001/1000
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 9 -1], ⟨0 2 0 4 -7 3], ⟨0 0 1 2 0 1]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.8238 ¢, ~26/15 = 950.8873 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8191 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~26/15 = 950.2108 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.9486 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 19, 29, 43, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef
Badness (Sintel): 0.993
Morfil
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 225/224, 1331/1323
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -2 -9 -6], ⟨0 1 2 6 5], ⟨0 0 3 6 4]]
- mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~55/42
- WE: ~2 = 1200.5931 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.2447 ¢, ~55/42 = 460.8465 ¢
- error map: ⟨+0.593 -0.117 -1.285 +1.942 -2.302]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.1108 ¢, ~55/42 = 460.5488 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -0.844 -2.446 +1.131 -3.569]
Optimal ET sequence: 29, 31, 60e, 91e, 94, 125
Badness (Sintel): 1.38
Subgroup extensions
Char
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.17
Comma list: 120/119, 225/224
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 8], ⟨0 1 0 2 -1], ⟨0 0 1 2 -1]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1199.3681 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.3669 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.9641 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.6286 ¢, ~5/4 = 385.0841 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 9, 10, 12, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53
Badness (Sintel): 0.381
Devimarvel
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.19
Comma list: 225/224, 400/399
Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 -5 9], ⟨0 1 0 2 -3], ⟨0 0 1 2 0]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1200.3454 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.1728 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7499 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.9546 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7912 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 12, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53, 72, 94, 113, 125, 291c
Badness (Sintel): 0.310