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The '''marvel family''' of [[rank-3 temperament|rank-3]] [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[7-limit]] [[marvel comma]] ([[ratio]]: [[225/224]], {{monzo|legend=1| -5 2 2 -1 }}), also known as ''septimal kleisma''. These temperaments hence equate [[16/15]] and [[15/14]], or equivalently they equate two [[5/4]]'s and one [[14/9]]. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common [[equal temperament|equal]] and [[rank-2 temperament]]s.
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The '''marvel family''' is the set of temperaments that temper out the [[7-limit]] ''marvel comma'' ([[225/224]] = {{monzo|-5 2 2 -1}}) which is also named ''septimal kleisma''. These temperaments hence equate [[16/15]] and [[15/14]], or equivalently they equate two [[5/4]]'s and one [[14/9]]. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common edos and rank-2 temperaments.
 
The marvel comma can also be viewed as a comma of the 2.9.25.7 subgroup. Hence it is tempered out by any subset edos of marvel-supporting edos that have this subgroup, such as [[11edo]] and [[17edo]] which are subsets of [[22edo]] and [[34edo]] which temper out the marvel comma.
 
= Marvel =
{{main| Marvel }}


The head of the marvel family is marvel, which tempers out [[225/224]]. Marvel has a [[Normal lists|normal list basis]] of [2, 3, 5]; hence a [[5-limit]] scale can be converted to marvel simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent marvel tuning, is given by [[197edo]].
The marvel comma can also be viewed as a comma of the 2.9.25.7 [[subgroup]]. Hence it is tempered out by any subset edos of marvel-supporting edos that have this subgroup, such as [[11edo]] and [[17edo]] which are subsets of [[22edo]] and [[34edo]] (when using the 34d val) which temper out the marvel comma.


Little is gained in tuning accuracy by not tempering out 4375/4374 as well as 225/224, leading to [[catakleismic temperament]]. Another temperament which does little damage to tuning accuracy is [[compton temperament]], for which [[240edo]] may be used. See [[marvel temperaments]] for some other rank-2 temperaments.
== Marvel ==
{{Main| Marvel }}


Period: 1\1
The head of the marvel family is marvel, which tempers out [[225/224]]. Marvel has a [[normal forms|normal generator list]] of {2, 3, 5}; hence a [[5-limit]] scale can be converted to marvel simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent marvel tuning, is given by [[197edo]].


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 700.4075, ~5/4 = 383.6376
Little is gained in tuning accuracy by not tempering out 4375/4374 as well as 225/224, leading to [[catakleismic]], with which it shares the [[optimal patent val]]. Another temperament which does little damage to tuning accuracy is [[compton]], for which [[240edo]] may be used. See [[Marvel temperaments]] for some other rank-2 temperaments.  


EDO generators: [[19edo|(11, 6)\19]], [[31edo|(18, 10)\31]], [[41edo|(24, 13)\41]]
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


Scales (Scala files): [[marvel9]], [[marvel10]], [[marvel11]], [[marvel12]], [[marvel19]], [[marvel22]], [[pump12_1]], [[pump12_2]], [[pump13]], [[pump14]], [[pump15]], [[pump16]], [[pump17]], [[pump18]]
[[Comma list]]: 225/224


[[Associated temperament]]: [[catakleismic]]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 | 0 1 0 2 | 0 0 1 2 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: c = 225/224
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 }}]
 
Mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5


Map to lattice: [{{val| 0 0 -1 -2 }}, {{val| 0 1 -1 0 }}]
Map to lattice: [{{val| 0 0 -1 -2 }}, {{val| 0 1 -1 0 }}]


Lattice basis:  
Lattice basis:  
: secor length = 1.256, 3/2 length = 1.369
: ~15/14 length = 1.256, ~3/2 length = 1.369
: Angle (secor, 3/2) = 106.958 degrees
: angle (~15/14, ~3/2) = 106.958°


Minimax tuning:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* 7-odd-limit: 3 and 5 1/4c flat, 7 just
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.5971{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.7560{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8285{{c}}
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 5/4 1/2 -1/2 1/4 }}, {{monzo| 5/4 -1/2 1/2 1/4 }}, {{monzo| 0 0 0 1 }}]
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.597 -0.602 -1.291 +0.940 }}
: [[Eigenmonzo subgroup]]: 2.5/3.7
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.6222{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8540{{c}}
* 9-odd-limit: 3 1/6c flat, 5 1/3c flat, 7 just
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.333 -2.460 +0.127 }}
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 5/6 2/3 -1/3 1/6 }}, {{monzo| 5/3 -2/3 1/3 1/3 }}, {{monzo| 0 0 0 1 }}]
 
: [[Eigenmonzo subgroup]]: 2.9/5.7
[[Minimax tuning]]:  
* [[7-odd-limit]]: 3 and 5 1/4-comma flat, 7 just
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 5/4 1/2 -1/2 1/4 | 5/4 -1/2 1/2 1/4 | 0 0 0 1 }}
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.5/3.7
* [[9-odd-limit]]: 3 1/6-comma flat, 5 1/3-comma flat, 7 just
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 5/6 2/3 -1/3 1/6 | 5/3 -2/3 1/3 1/3 | 0 0 0 1 }}
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/5.7


{{Val list|legend=1| 10, 12, 19, 22, 31, 41, 72, 197, 269c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 9, 10, 12, 19, 31, 41, 53, 72, 197, 269c }}


Badness: 0.0365 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.161


[[Projection pair]]s: 7 225/32
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 225/32</code>


[[Complexity spectrum]]: 4/3, 5/4, 7/5, 7/6, 8/7, 6/5, 9/8, 9/7, 10/9
[[Complexity spectrum]]: 4/3, 5/4, 7/5, 7/6, 8/7, 6/5, 9/8, 9/7, 10/9


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Scales: [[marvel9]], [[marvel10]], [[marvel11]], [[marvel12]], [[marvel19]], [[marvel22]], [[pump12_1]], [[pump12_2]], [[pump13]], [[pump14]], [[pump15]], [[pump16]], [[pump17]], [[pump18]], [[marvel wholetone]]
 
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{2, 3, 5} subgroup
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2.3.5 subgroup
* 8: 16/15, 250/243
* 8: 16/15, 250/243
* 9: 135/128, 128/125
* 9: 135/128, 128/125
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* 31: 81/80, 34171875/33554432
* 31: 81/80, 34171875/33554432
* 41: 34171875/33554432, 3125/3072
* 41: 34171875/33554432, 3125/3072
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=== Overview to extensions ===
 
The second comma of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] defines which 11-limit family member we are looking at. 4125/4096 gives unidecimal marvel; 91125/90112 gives prodigy; 5632/5625 gives minerva. These and many others considered below use the same generators as marvel.  
== Eleven-limit extensions ==
The second comma of the [[Normal lists #Normal interval list|normal comma list]] defines which 11-limit family member we are looking at.  
* 4125/4096 gives unidecimal marvel,
* 91125/90112 gives prodigy,
* 5632/5625 gives minerva, and
* 243/242 gives spectacle.
 
= 11-limit (unimarv) =
 
Period: 1\1
 
Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 700.3887, ~5/4 = 383.5403


EDO generators: [[22edo|(13, 7)\22]], [[31edo|(18, 10)\31]], [[41edo|(24, 13)\41]]
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include
* ''[[Supernatural]]'' (+245/243) → [[Keemic family #Supernatural|Keemic family]]
* ''[[Artemis]]'' (+121/120) → [[Biyatismic clan #Artemis|Biyatismic clan]]
* ''[[Spectacle]]'' (+243/242) → [[Rastmic rank-3 clan #Spectacle|Rastmic rank-3 clan]]
* ''[[Marvelpine]]'' (+4000/3993) → [[Wizardharry clan #Marvelpine|Wizardharry clan]]
* ''[[Mirage]]'' (+243/242, +385/384) → [[Rastmic rank-3 clan #Spectacle|Rastmic rank-3 clan]]
* ''[[Catakleismoid]]'' (+4375/4374) → [[Kleismic rank-3 family #Catakleismoid|Kleismic rank-3 family]]


Scales (Scala files): [[marvel22_11]], [[unimarv19]], [[unimarv22]]
== Undecimal marvel ==
{{Main| Marvel }}


[[Associated temperament]]: [[catakleismic]]
Undecimal marvel tempers out [[385/384]] as well as [[540/539]], and is loosely [[associated temperament|associated]] with [[wizard]]. This extension is natural because of the factorization 225/224 = (385/384)⋅(540/539). [[197edo]] remains useful as a tuning, with the 197e val, but [[166edo]], which among other things has a virtually pure 7, works as well.


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In the 13-limit, 225/224 factors as ([[351/350]])⋅([[625/624]]) or ([[325/324]])⋅([[729/728]]). Tempering out 351/350 and 625/624 leads to helios, tempering out 325/324 and 729/728 leads to hecate. Tempering out all of them leads to the 13-limit version of [[catakleismic]].
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11


[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 385/384
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 385/384


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 12 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 -1 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 -3 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 12 | 0 1 0 2 -1 | 0 0 1 2 -3 }}


Mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5
[[Mapping to lattice]]: [{{val| 0 -1 0 -2 1 }}, {{val| 0 -1 1 0 -2 }}]


Map to lattice: [{{val| 0 -1 0 -2 1 }}, {{val| 0 -1 1 0 -2 }}]
Lattice basis:  
: ~15/14 length = 1.0364, ~5/4 length = 1.0759
: angle (~15/14, ~5/4) = 104.028°


Lattice basis:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
: secor length = 1.0364, 5/4 length = 1.0759
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.6395{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.7619{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7447{{c}}
: Angle (secor, 5/4) = 104.028 degrees
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.639 -0.554 -1.290 +0.827 -0.117 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.6048{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.4538{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.350 -2.860 -0.709 -2.284 }}


[[Minimax tuning]]:
[[Minimax tuning]]:
* 11-odd-limit
* [[11-odd-limit]]
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 4/3 8/9 -1/3 0 -1/9 }}, {{monzo| 8/3 -2/9 1/3 0 -2/9 }}, {{monzo| 3 4/3 0 0 -2/3 }}, {{monzo| 8/3 -2/9 -2/3 0 7/9 }}]
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 4/3 8/9 -1/3 0 -1/9 }}, {{monzo| 8/3 -2/9 1/3 0 -2/9 }}, {{monzo| 3 4/3 0 0 -2/3 }}, {{monzo| 8/3 -2/9 -2/3 0 7/9 }}]
: [[Eigenmonzo subgroup]]: 2.9/5.11/9
: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/5.11/9


{{Val list|legend=1| 10, 12e, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53, 72, 166, 197e, 269ce, 341ce }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 9, 10, 12e, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53, 72, 166, 197e, 238c, 269ce, 341ce }}


Badness: 0.255 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.306


[[Projection pair]]s: 7 225/32 11 4096/375
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 225/32 11 4096/375</code>


[[Complexity spectrum]]: 5/4, 4/3, 7/6, 8/7, 7/5, 6/5, 9/7, 12/11, 9/8, 11/8, 11/9, 10/9, 11/10, 14/11
[[Complexity spectrum]]: 5/4, 4/3, 7/6, 8/7, 7/5, 6/5, 9/7, 12/11, 9/8, 11/8, 11/9, 10/9, 11/10, 14/11


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Scales: [[marvel22_11]], [[unimarv19]], [[unimarv22]]


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{2, 3, 5} subgroup
* 12: 128/125, 2048/2025
* 12: 128/125, 2048/2025
* 15: 128/125, 32768/30375
* 15: 128/125, 32768/30375
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* 31: 2109375/2097152, 81/80
* 31: 2109375/2097152, 81/80
* 41: 3125/3072, 34171875/33554432
* 41: 3125/3072, 34171875/33554432
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=== Helios ===
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
== 13-limit ==
 
Period: 1\1
 
Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 699.7367, ~5/4 = 384.0613
 
EDO generators: [[31edo|(18, 10)\31]], [[53edo|(31, 17)\53]], [[72edo|(42, 23)\72]]
 
Scales (Scala files):
 
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 351/350, 385/384


Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 351/350
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 -4 | 0 1 0 2 -1 -1 | 0 0 1 2 -3 4 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 12 -4 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 -1 -1 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 -3 4 }}]
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.8043{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.2057{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.3188{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.8109{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.1177{{c}}


Minimax tuning:  
Minimax tuning:  
* 13-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.11/9.13/9
* 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/9
* 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.15/11.15/13
* 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.15/11.15/13


{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 22, 31, 50, 53, 72, 103, 175f, 300ceff, 403bceeff }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 22, 31, 50, 53, 72, 103, 175f, 300ceff, 403bceeff, 578bbccdeeefff }}


Badness: 0.690 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Badness (Sintel): 0.645


[[Complexity spectrum]]: 5/4, 4/3, 16/15, 15/14, 9/7, 6/5, 7/6, 11/8, 7/5, 9/8, 8/7, 10/9, 12/11, 13/10, 11/10, 15/11, 16/13, 11/9, 15/13, 14/13, 13/12, 14/11, 18/13, 13/11
Complexity spectrum: 5/4, 4/3, 16/15, 15/14, 9/7, 6/5, 7/6, 11/8, 7/5, 9/8, 8/7, 10/9, 12/11, 13/10, 11/10, 15/11, 16/13, 11/9, 15/13, 14/13, 13/12, 14/11, 18/13, 13/11


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=== Hecate ===
Hecate tempers out [[325/324]], the marveltwin comma, such that [[16/13]] is found by a stack of two ~[[10/9]]'s, similar to how [[8/7]] is found by a stack of two [[15/14]]~[[16/15]]'s. Hecate has a natural extension to include [[prime interval|prime]] [[19/1|19]], where it further tempers out [[400/399]] and [[513/512]], taking advantage of the factorization 225/224 = (400/399)⋅(513/512). For both of these cases [[166edo]] remains an excellent tuning.


== Hecate ==
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Period: 1\1
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 700.9779, ~5/4 = 383.1622
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 }}


EDO generators: [[41edo|(24, 13)\41]], [[53edo|(31, 17)\53]], [[72edo|(42, 23)\72]]
Optimal tunings:  
 
* WE: ~2 = 1200.5788{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.3161{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.3471{{c}}
Scales (Scala files):  
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.1003{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.1315{{c}}
 
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 325/324
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 -1 4 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 }}]


Minimax tuning:  
Minimax tuning:  
* 13-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.7.13/5
* 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.13/5
* 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.7.15/13
* 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.15/13
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 22f, 31f, 41, 53, 72, 125f, 166, 238cf, 404ccef }}


Badness: 0.721 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 22f, 31f, 41, 53, 72, 125f, 166, 238cf }}


Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 324/25
Badness (Sintel): 0.674


[[Complexity spectrum]]: 4/3, 5/4, 16/15, 15/14, 6/5, 9/8, 7/5, 9/7, 7/6, 10/9, 8/7, 18/13, 11/8, 12/11, 13/12, 11/9, 11/10, 15/13, 15/11, 16/13, 13/11, 14/13, 13/10, 14/11
Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 324/25</code>


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Complexity spectrum: 4/3, 5/4, 16/15, 15/14, 6/5, 9/8, 7/5, 9/7, 7/6, 10/9, 8/7, 18/13, 11/8, 12/11, 13/12, 11/9, 11/10, 15/13, 15/11, 16/13, 13/11, 14/13, 13/10, 14/11


=== 17-limit ===
===== 2.3.5.7.11.13.19 subgroup =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.19


Period: 1\1
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 400/399


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 700.9619, ~5/4 = 383.0310
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 9 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 -3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 0 }}


EDO generators: [[22edo|(13, 7)\22]], [[41edo|(24, 13)\41]], [[72edo|(42, 23)\72]]
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.4716{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.4395{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.2779{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.2002{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.1136{{c}}


Scales (Scala files):
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 53, 72, 94, 113, 166 }}


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==== Apotropaia ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 325/324, 595/594
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 595/594


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 18 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 -1 4 0 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 -6 }}]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 18 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 0 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 -6 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 22f, 31fg, 41, 53g, 72, 166g, 238cfg, 404ccefgg }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.6057{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.3157{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.2243{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.0877{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.9709{{c}}


Badness: 0.869 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 53g, 72, 166g, 238cfg }}


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Badness (Sintel): 0.827


=== Enodia ===
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19


Period: 1\1
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 400/399, 595/594


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 700.9658, ~5/4 = 383.3063
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 18 9 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 0 -3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 -6 0 }}


EDO generators: [[22edo|(13, 7)\22]], [[53edo|(31, 17)\53]], [[72edo|(42, 23)\72]]
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.4927{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.4506{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.1291{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.2007{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.9404{{c}}


Scales (Scala files):
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 53g, 72, 94, 113, 166g }}


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==== Enodia ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 325/324, 375/374
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 375/374, 385/384


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 18 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 -1 4 0 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 6 }}]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 -13 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 2 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 6 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 19g, 22f, 31f, 41g, 53, 72, 166g, 238cfg, 404ccefgg }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.6165{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.3259{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.5032{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.0949{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.3140{{c}}


Badness: 0.917 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41g, 53, 72, 166g, 238cfg }}


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Badness (Sintel): 0.872


== Marvell ==
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19


Period: 1\1
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 375/374, 385/384, 400/399


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 700.3937, ~5/4 = 383.5725
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 2 -13 9 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 2 -3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 6 0 }}


EDO generators: [[9edo|(5, 3)\9]], [[31edo|(18, 10)\31]], [[72edo|(42, 23)\72]]
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.5038{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.4654{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.4549{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.2113{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.3052{{c}}


Scales (Scala files):
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41g, 53, 72, 94, 125f, 166g }}


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Badness (Sintel): 1.05
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=== Marvell ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 1573/1568
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 1573/1568


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 12 -29 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 -1 6 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 -3 10 }}]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 -29 | 0 1 0 2 -1 6 | 0 0 1 2 -3 10 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.6404{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.7675{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7772{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.6113{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.4925{{c}}


Minimax tuning:  
Minimax tuning:  
* 13-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.9/5.11/9
* 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/5.11/9
* 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.7.15/13
* 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.15/13


{{Val list|legend=1| 9, 22f, 31, 63, 72, 103, 166, 238cf, 269ce, 507bcceff, 610bcceeff }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 22f, 31, 63, 72, 103, 166, 238cf, 269ce, 341cef }}


Badness: 0.862 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Badness (Sintel): 0.806


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=== Isis ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


== Isis ==
Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 385/384


Period: 1\1
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 17 | 0 1 0 2 -1 -4 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -3 }}


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 701.9156, ~5/4 = 383.2445
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1824{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.0223{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.3028{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9276{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.2283{{c}}


EDO generators: [[22edo|(13, 7)\22]], [[31edo|(18, 10)\31]], [[41edo|(24, 13)\41]]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 19f, 22, 31, 41, 53, 84e, 94 }}


Scales (Scala files):  
Badness (Sintel): 0.810


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Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 131072/10125</code>
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=== Deecee ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 275/273
Comma list: 225/224, 364/363, 385/384


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 12 17 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 -1 4 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 -3 -3 }}]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 27 | 0 1 0 2 -1 -3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -8 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 10, 19f, 22, 31, 41, 53, 94 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.7533{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.8957{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.0580{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.7184{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.6611{{c}}


Badness: 0.866 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Minimax tuning:  
* 13-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup (unchanged-interval basis): 2.9/5.13/9
* 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup (unchanged-interval basis): 2.3.13/5


Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 131072/10125
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 19f, 22, 31f, 41, 63, 72, 185cf, 257cff }}


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Badness (Sintel): 0.861


== Deecee ==
Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 134217728/10546875</code>


Period: 1\1
=== Tripod ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 700.4560, ~5/4 = 382.8177
Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 196/195


EDO generators: [[9edo|(5, 3)\9]], [[41edo|(24, 13)\41]], [[72edo|(42, 23)\72]]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 -8 | 0 1 0 2 -1 3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 3 }}


Scales (Scala files):  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.4789{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.5125{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.1304{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.4041{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.9166{{c}}


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Minimax tuning:
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* 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13/11
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* 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.5/3.13/11


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 10, 19, 22f, 31, 41, 72f, 91 }}


Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 364/363
Badness (Sintel): 0.697


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 12 27 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 -1 -3 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 -3 -8 }}]
Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 3375/256</code>


Minimax tuning:
=== Marvelcat ===
* 13-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.9/5.13/9
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
* 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.3.13/5


{{Val list|legend=1| 9, 19f, 22, 31f, 41, 63, 72, 185cf, 257cff }}
Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 385/384


Badness: 0.920 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 -1 | 0 2 0 4 -2 3 | 0 0 1 2 -3 1 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~26/15, ~5


Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 134217728/10546875
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.7720{{c}}, ~3/2 = 950.8976{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8283{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~26/15 = 950.4265{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.4790{{c}}


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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 10, 19, 43e, 44, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef }}


== Tripod ==
Badness (Sintel): 0.935


Period: 1\1
== Prodigy ==
Prodigy tempers out [[441/440]] and shrinks [[243/242]], [[385/384|384/385]], [[1029/1024|1024/1029]] and [[2401/2400|2400/2401]] down to the same tiny interval. Hence in practice it probably makes the most sense to temper this out as well, leading to [[miracle]]. This, however, does not render it pointless to consider prodigy; for one thing, scales in prodigy such as [[hobbit]] scales translate into interesting scales for miracle.


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 699.2335, ~5/4 = 382.9775
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11


EDO generators: [[9edo|(5, 3)\9]], [[19edo|(11, 6)\19]], [[31edo|(18, 10)\31]]
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 441/440


Scales (Scala files):
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 -13 | 0 1 0 2 6 | 0 0 1 2 3 }}


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Map to lattice: [{{val| 0 0 -1 -2 -3 }}, {{val| 0 1 -1 0 3 }}]
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Lattice basis:  
: ~15/14 length = 0.9111, ~3/2 length = 0.9477
: angle (~15/14, ~3/2) = 65.933°


Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 196/195
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.7854{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.2562{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7624{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.785 -0.913 -0.980 -0.003 +0.721 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.8610{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7724{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -2.094 -2.541 -1.559 -0.835 }}


Minimax tuning:  
[[Minimax tuning]]:
* 13-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.9/7.13/11
* [[11-odd-limit]]
* 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.5/3.13/11
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 13/12 1/2 -1/4 0 1/12 }}, {{monzo| 13/6 -1 1/2 0 1/6 }}, {{monzo| 3/2 -1 1/2 0 1/2 }}, {{monzo| 0 0 0 0 1 }}]
: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/5.11


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 12 -8 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 -1 3 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 -3 3 }}]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 12, 19e, 29, 31, 41, 60e, 72, 247c, 319bcde, 391bcde, 463bccde }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 9, 10, 19, 22f, 31, 41, 72f, 122f, 163df }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.402


Badness: 0.745 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 225/32 11 91125/8192</code>


Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 3375/256
Scales: [[prodigy11]], [[prodigy12]], [[prodigy29]]


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{{Databox|Hobbit bases|
2.3.5 subgroup
* 31: 81/80, 34171875/33554432
* 41: 34171875/33554432, 32805/32768
}}


== Marvelcat ==
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Period: 1\1
Comma list: 105/104, 196/195, 352/351


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~15/13 = 249.7138, ~5/4 = 383.5816
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -13 -8 | 0 1 0 2 6 3 | 0 0 1 2 3 3 }}


EDO generators: [[9edo|(5, 3)\9]], [[19edo|(11, 6)\19]], [[53edo|(31, 17)\53]]
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.8252{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.8823{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.6647{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.4689{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.6687{{c}}


Scales (Scala files):
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 12f, 19e, 29, 31, 41, 60e, 72f, 101cd }}


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Badness (Sintel): 0.689
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=== Prodigious ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 385/384
Comma list: 225/224, 364/363, 441/440


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 12 -1 }}, {{val| 0 2 0 4 -2 3 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 -3 1 }}]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -13 -23 | 0 1 0 2 6 11 | 0 0 1 2 3 4 }}


Mapping generators: ~2, ~26/15, ~5
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.6284{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.7075{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.4599{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.3302{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.5030{{c}}


{{Val list|legend=1| 9, 10, 19, 44, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef, 269ceff }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 29, 31f, 41, 72, 185cf, 257cff }}


Badness: 0.9997 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Badness (Sintel): 0.841


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=== Prodigal ===
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
= Mirage =


Period: 1\1
Comma list: 225/224, 351/350, 441/440


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~15/14 = 116.6327, ~13/8 = 837.7040
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -13 -4 | 0 1 0 2 6 -1 | 0 0 1 2 3 4 }}


EDO generators: [[31edo|(3, 22)\31]], [[41edo|(4, 29)\41]], [[72edo|(7, 50)\22]]
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.7798{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.9410{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.3494{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.5538{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.3496{{c}}


Scales (Scala files):
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19e, 31, 53e, 60eff, 72, 103, 175f }}


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Badness (Sintel): 0.831
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=== Protannic ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 385/384
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 1001/1000


Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 3 3 2 0 }}, {{val| 0 6 -7 -2 15 0 }}, {{val| 0 0 0 0 0 1 }}]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -13 21 | 0 1 0 2 6 -8 | 0 0 1 2 3 -2 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 10, 31, 41, 62, 72, 103, 175f, 216c, 288cdf, 391bcdef }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.9450{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.1045{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8716{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.4224{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.9828{{c}}


Badness: 0.738 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 29, 31, 43, 60e, 72, 103, 175f, 482bccddeefff, 554bbccddeeeffff }}


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Badness (Sintel): 0.891


= Minerva =
==== 17-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


Period: 1\1
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 375/374, 441/440


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 700.2593, ~5/4 = 386.5581
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -13 21 12 | 0 1 0 2 6 -8 -5 | 0 0 1 2 3 -2 0 }}


EDO generators: [[12edo|(7, 4)\12]], [[22edo|(13, 7)\22]], [[31edo|(18, 10)\31]]
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.9342{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.1708{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7444{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.4849{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8744{{c}}


Scales (Scala files): [[minerva12]], [[minerva22x]]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 29g, 31, 43, 60e, 72, 103, 175f, 307bcdeeffg, 379bccdeeffgg, 482bccddeefffgg, 554bbccddeeeffffgg }}


[[Associated temperament]]: [[Würschmidt family #Würschmidt|würschmidt]]
Badness (Sintel): 0.734


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== Minerva ==
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Minerva tempers out [[99/98]] as well as [[176/175]]. It may be described as 12 & 22 & 31, and is loosely [[associated temperament|associated]] with [[würschmidt]].  
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11


[[Comma list]]: 99/98, 176/175
[[Comma list]]: 99/98, 176/175


[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 -9 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 2 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 4 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 -9 | 0 1 0 2 2 | 0 0 1 2 4 }}
 
Mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5


Map to lattice: [{{val| 0 -1 0 -2 -2 }}, {{val| 0 -1 1 0 2 }}]
Map to lattice: [{{val| 0 -1 0 -2 -2 }}, {{val| 0 -1 1 0 2 }}]


Lattice basis:  
Lattice basis:  
: 16/15 length = 0.8997, 5/4 length = 1.0457
: ~16/15 length = 0.8997, ~5/4 length = 1.0457
: Angle (16/15, 5/4) = 98.6044 degrees
: angle (~16/15, ~5/4) = 98.6044°
 
[[Minimax tuning]]: 11-odd-limit [[eigenmonzo subgroup]]: 2.7/5.11/9
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 9, 12, 19e, 22, 31, 53, 84e, 96, 127 }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.381 × 10<sup>-3</sup>


[[Projection pair]]s: 7 225/32 11 5625/512
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.1086{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.3226{{c}}, ~5/4 = 386.5931{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.109 -1.524 +0.497 +5.114 -4.192 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.3006{{c}}, ~5/4 = 386.5785{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.654 +0.265 +4.932 -4.403 }}


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[[Minimax tuning]]: [[11-odd-limit]] [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.7/5.11/9


== Athene ==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 9, 12, 19e, 22, 31, 53, 84e, 96, 127 }}


Period: 1\1
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.458


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 701.2342, ~5/4 = 385.9594
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 225/32 11 5625/512</code>


EDO generators: [[12edo|(7, 4)\12]], [[19edo|(11, 6)\19]], [[22edo|(13, 7)\22]]
Scales: [[minerva12]], [[minerva22x]]
 
Scales (Scala files):
 
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=== Athene ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 275/273
Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 275/273


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 -9 -4 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 2 -1 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 4 4 }}]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -9 -4 | 0 1 0 2 2 -1 | 0 0 1 2 4 4 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9127{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.1832{{c}}, ~5/4 = 385.9313{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.2143{{c}}, ~5/4 = 385.9336{{c}}


Minimax tuning:  
Minimax tuning:  
* 13-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.11/9.13/7
* 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/7
* 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.11/9.13/7
* 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/7
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 12f, 19e, 22, 31, 53, 84e, 118d, 171de, 202def }}
 
Badness: 0.818 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 5625/512 13 625/48
 
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= Spectacle =
 
Period: 1\1
 
Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~11/9 = 350.0570, ~5/4 = 383.9323
 
EDO generators: [[31edo|(9, 10)\31]], [[34edo|(10, 11)\34]], [[41edo|(12, 13)\41]]
 
Scales (Scala files): [[spectacle31]]
 
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 243/242
 
[[Associated temperament]]: [[Marvel temperaments #Marvo|marvo]]
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 0 -3 2 }}, {{val| 0 2 0 4 5 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 0 }}]
 
Mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9, ~5
 
[[Minimax tuning]]:
* 11-odd-limit
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 1/5 0 0 0 2/5 }}, {{monzo| 2/5 -2 1 0 4/5 }}, {{monzo| -19/5 -4 2 0 12/5 }}, {{monzo| 0 0 0 0 1 }}]
: [[Eigenmonzo subgroup]]: 2.9/5.11
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 31, 41, 72, 247c, 281, 353c, 425bc, 497bc }}
 
Badness: 0.499 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
Projection pairs: 3 242/81 7 366025/52488 11 644204/59049 to 2.5.11/9
 
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== 13-limit ==
 
Period: 1\1
 
Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~11/9 = 349.9247, ~5/4 = 384.3505
 
EDO generators: [[31edo|(9, 10)\31]], [[34edo|(10, 11)\34]], [[72edo|(21, 23)\72]]
 
Scales (Scala files):
 
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 351/350
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 0 -3 2 -5 }}, {{val| 0 2 0 4 5 -2 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 0 4 }}]
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 31, 72, 103, 175f, (240) }}
 
Badness: 1.009 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
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= Apollo =
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19e, 22, 31, 53, 84e, 118d }}


Period: 1\1
Badness (Sintel): 0.765


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 703.4846, ~5/4 = 381.6033
Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 5625/512 13 625/48</code>


EDO generators: [[12edo|(7, 4)\12]], [[19edo|(11, 6)\19]], [[22edo|(13, 7)\22]]
== Apollo ==
{{See also| Ptolemismic clan #Apollo }}


Scales (Scala files):  
[[File:Lattice Apollo.png|thumb|Lattice for apollo.]]


Associated temperament: [[Magic family #magic|magic]]
Apollo tempers out not only [[100/99]] but [[896/891]]. Note that marvel tempers together [[25/24]] and [[28/27]], and apollo further equates it with [[33/32]] via the vanishing of 100/99. This makes it a weak extension of [[parapyth]], and [[associated temperament|associates]] it with [[magic]]. The lattice structure is very compact, comparable to that of [[ares]], from which apollo only differs in the mapping of [[prime interval|prime]] [[7/1|7]].


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The canonical [[13-limit]] extension is implied by parapyth, tempering out [[352/351]] and [[364/363]], but there are a number of other extenions to consider, these being called phoebus and musagetes, after epithets of Apollo. Phoebus tempers out [[105/104]] and finds ~[[16/13]] as a stack of three [[secor]]s. Musagetes tempers out [[144/143]] and conflates 16/13 and [[11/9]], which in this case is simply a stack of two ~[[10/9]]'s. These extensions are [[support]]ed by 13-limit [[magic]], unlike the canonical one.
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11


[[Comma list]]: 100/99, 225/224
[[Comma list]]: 100/99, 225/224


[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 2 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 -2 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 2 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 2 | 0 1 0 2 -2 | 0 0 1 2 2 }}
 
Minimax tuning: 11-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.7/5.11/9
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 12, 19, 22, 34d, 41, 104, 157ce, 198ce, 220ce, 261ce }}


[[Projection pair]]s: 7 225/32 11 100/9
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.8250{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.3820{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.5476{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.175 +1.252 -5.116 +0.858 +4.313 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.4612{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.5071{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.506 -4.807 +1.111 +4.774 }}


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[[Minimax tuning]]: [[11-odd-limit]] [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.7/5.11/9


== 13-limit ==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 19, 22, 34d, 41, 104 }}


Period: 1\1
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.637


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 703.9984, ~5/4 = 381.5352
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 225/32 11 100/9</code>


EDO generators: [[12edo|(7, 4)\12]], [[22edo|(13, 7)\22]], [[29edo|(17, 9)\29]]
Scales: [[apollo wholetone]], [[indigo17]]
 
Scales (Scala files):
 
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=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 100/99, 225/224, 275/273
Comma list: 100/99, 225/224, 275/273


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 2 7 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 -2 -5 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 2 2 }}]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 2 7 | 0 1 0 2 -2 -5 | 0 0 1 2 2 2 }}
 
Minimax tuning: 13-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.11/9.13/9
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 12f, 19f, 22, 29, 34d, 41, 63, 104, 179cef, 242cde, 283def, 346bcdef }}
 
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 100/9 13 3200/243
 
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= Artemis =
 
Period: 1\1
 
Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 699.8719, ~11/10 = 158.3232
 
EDO generators: [[7edo|(4, 2)\7]], [[22edo|(13, 7)\22]], [[31edo|(18, 10)\31]]
 
Scales (Scala files):
 
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 121/120, 225/224
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6919{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.8176{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.4372{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.9853{{c}}, ~5/4 = 381.3579{{c}}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 1 -3 2 }}, {{val| 0 1 1 4 1 }}, {{val| 0 0 -2 -4 -1 }}]
Minimax tuning: 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/9


Mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~11/10
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19f, 22, 29, 34d, 41, 63, 104 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 9, 15d, 16d, 20, 22, 31, 53, 82e, 84e, 113e, 144ee }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.964


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Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 100/9 13 3200/243</code>
 
== 13-limit ==
 
Period: 1\1
 
Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 698.7090, ~11/10 = 158.7117
 
EDO generators: [[9edo|(5, 3)\9]], [[29edo|(17, 9)\29]], [[31edo|(18, 10)\31]]
 
Scales (Scala files):
 
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=== Phoebus ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 105/104, 121/120, 196/195
Comma list: 100/99, 105/104, 196/195
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 1 -3 2 -5 }}, {{val| 0 1 1 4 1 6 }}, {{val| 0 0 2 4 1 6 }}]
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 9, 20, 22f, 29, 31 }}
 
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== Diana ==
 
Period: 1\1


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 700.9789, ~11/10 = 159.0048
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 2 1 | 0 1 0 2 -2 3 | 0 0 1 2 2 3 }}


EDO generators: [[22edo|(13, 7)\22]], [[29edo|(17, 9)\29]], [[31edo|(18, 10)\31]]
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.3724{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.5274{{c}}, ~5/4 = 379.6345{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.3357{{c}}, ~5/4 = 379.6830{{c}}


Scales (Scala files):
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19, 22f, 29, 41 }}


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=== Musagetes ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 121/120, 225/224, 275/273
Comma list: 100/99, 144/143, 225/224
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 1 -3 2 7 }}, {{val| 0 1 1 4 1 -2 }}, {{val| 0 0 2 4 1 1 }}]
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 22, 29, 31, 53, 82e, 84e, 113e, 166ee }}


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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 2 2 | 0 1 0 2 -2 4 | 0 0 1 2 2 -2 }}


= Potassium =
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.2695{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.5589{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.7715{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.7998{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.7740{{c}}


Period: 1\1
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 22f, 34d, 41, 75e, 94e, 116ef }}


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 696.1714, ~5/4 = 385.0500
Badness (Sintel): 1.14


EDO generators: [[7edo|(4, 2)\7]], [[9edo|(5, 3)\9]], [[12edo|(7, 4)\12]]
== Potassium ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11


Scales (Scala files):  
[[Comma list]]: 45/44, 56/55


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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.7106{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.0036{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.9572{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.289 -6.241 -1.935 -7.194 +25.068 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.0586{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.9472{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -5.896 -1.367 -6.814 +25.746 }}


Comma list: 45/44, 56/55
[[Minimax tuning]]: [[11-odd-limit]] [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/7.11


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 -2 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 2 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 1 }}]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 9, 10, 12, 19, 31e }}


Minimax tuning: 11-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.9/7.11
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.557


{{Val list|legend=1| 7d, 9, 10, 12, 19, 31e, 50e }}
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 225/32 11 45/4</code>
 
Badness: 0.464 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 45/4
 
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== 13-limit ==
 
Period: 1\1
 
Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 696.0103, ~5/4 = 384.6785
 
EDO generators: [[9edo|(5, 3)\9]], [[10edo|(6, 3)\10]], [[12edo|(7, 4)\12]]
 
Scales (Scala files):
 
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=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, 78/77
Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, 78/77


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 -2 -8 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 2 3 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 1 3 }}]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -2 -8 | 0 1 0 2 2 3 | 0 0 1 2 1 3 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.8192{{c}}, ~3/2 = 695.9054{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.6205{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 695.9480{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.6372{{c}}


Minimax tuning:  
Minimax tuning:  
* 13-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.9/7.13/9
* 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13/9
* 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.9/7.13/9
* 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13/9
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 9, 10, 12f, 19, 31e, 50e }}
 
Badness: 0.733 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 45/4 13 3375/256
 
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= Fantastic =
 
Period: 1\2
 
Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~3/2 = 700.6242, ~5/4 = 383.2978
 
EDO generators: [[12edo|(7, 4)\12]], [[22edo|(13, 7)\22]], [[72edo|(42, 23)\72]]
 
Scales (Scala files):
 
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 225/224, 4375/4356
 
Mapping: [{{val| 2 0 0 -10 -7 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 0 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 3 }}]
 
Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~5
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 12, 22, 34d, 50, 60e, 72, 166, 238c, 310c }}
 
Badness: 0.743 × 10<sup>-3</sup>


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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 10, 12f, 19, 31e }}


= Catakleismoid =
Badness (Sintel): 0.686


Period: 1\1
Projection pairs: <code>7 225/32 11 45/4 13 3375/256</code>


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~6/5 = 316.7318, ~11/8 = 549.2528
== Malcolm ==
{{Redirect|Malcolm|{{w|Alexander Malcolm (writer on music)|Alexander Malcolm}}'s JI scale|Malcolm (scale)}}


EDO generators: [[19edo|(5, 8)\19]], [[53edo|(14, 24)\53]], [[72edo|(19, 33)\72]]
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11


Scales (Scala files):  
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 2200/2187


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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.5261{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.1990{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.5759{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.526 +0.770 -2.686 +1.250 -1.077 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.0535{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.6222{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.098 -3.692 +0.525 -2.188 }}


Comma list: 225/224, 4375/4374
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12e, 19e, 34d, 41, 53, 60e, 94, 229c, 248ce, 289cce }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 1 -3 0 }}, {{val| 0 6 5 22 0 }}, {{val| 0 0 0 0 1 }}]
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.50
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 34d, 53, 72, 197e, 269ce }}
 
Badness: 1.275 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
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== 13-limit ==
 
Period: 1\1
 
Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~6/5 = 316.7410, ~11/8 = 548.6028
 
EDO generators: [[19edo|(5, 8)\19]], [[53edo|(14, 24)\53]], [[72edo|(19, 33)\72]]
 
Scales (Scala files):
 
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=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 325/324
Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 325/324
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 1 -3 0 0 }}, {{val| 0 6 5 22 0 14 }}, {{val| 0 0 0 0 1 0 }}]
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 34d, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef, 269cef }}
 
Badness: 0.916 × 10<sup>-3</sup>


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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 -3 2 | 0 1 0 2 7 4 | 0 0 1 2 -2 -2 }}


= Hestia =
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2427{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.1575{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.0704{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.0882{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.0630{{c}}


Period: 1\1
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12e, 19e, 34d, 41, 53, 94 }}


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~231/200 = 249.8526, ~5/4 = 383.6467
Badness (Sintel): 1.00


EDO generators: [[29edo|(6, 9)\29]], [[53edo|(11, 17)\53]], [[72edo|(15, 23)\72]]
Scales: [[malco]]


Scales (Scala files):
== Fantastic ==
Besides 4375/4356, fantastic also tempers out [[9801/9800]] and splits the octave in two.


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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 4375/4356


Comma list: 225/224, 125000/124509
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 0 -10 -7 | 0 1 0 2 0 | 0 0 1 2 3 }}
: mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~5


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 9 }}, {{val| 0 2 0 4 -7 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 0 }}]
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~99/70 = 600.2896{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.9624{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.4829{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.579 -0.413 -1.672 +0.644 +0.579 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~99/70 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.8160{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.5350{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.139 -2.779 -0.124 -0.713 }}


Mapping generators: ~2, ~400/231, ~5
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 22, 34d, 50, 60e, 72, 166, 238c, 310c }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 29, 43, 53, 72, 197e, 269ce, 341ce, 610bce }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.893


Badness: 1.54 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
== Hestia ==
Named by [[Graham Breed]] in 2011, hestia was found to be locally efficient in the higher limits among all rank-3 extensions of marvel<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_19673.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Artemis and friends'']</ref>, although it is a [[weak extension]].


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[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11


== 13-limit ==
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 125000/124509


Period: 1\1
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -5 9 | 0 2 0 4 -7 | 0 0 1 2 0 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~400/231, ~5


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generators: ~15/13 = 249.7651, ~5/4 = 383.5558
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.6417{{c}}, ~400/231 = 950.6555{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8518{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.642 -0.644 -1.179 +0.858 -0.131 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~400/231 = 950.1211{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.9530{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.712 -2.361 -0.436 -2.165 }}


EDO generators: [[19edo|(4, 6)\19]], [[29edo|(6, 9)\29]], [[53edo|(11, 17)\53]]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 29, 43, 53, 72, 197e, 269ce, 341ce }}


Scales (Scala files):
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.845
 
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=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 1001/1000
Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 1001/1000


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 9 -1 }}, {{val| 0 2 0 4 -7 3 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 0 1 }}]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 9 -1 | 0 2 0 4 -7 3 | 0 0 1 2 0 1 }}
 
Mapping generators: ~2, ~26/15, ~5
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 29, 43, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef, 269cef }}
 
Badness: 1.062 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
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= Malcolm =
Comma list: 225/224, 2200/2187
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 -3 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 7 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 -2 }}]
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 41, 53, 94, 229c, 248ce, 289ce, 342ce, 383ce }}
 
Badness: 1.250 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
== 13-limit ==
Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 325/324
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 -3 2 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 7 4 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 -2 -2 }}]
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 41, 53, 94, 429cdef, 523cdef }}
 
Badness: 1.075 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
= Prodigy =
Prodigy shrinks 1024/1029, 243/242, 384/385 and 2400/2401 down to the same tiny interval. Hence in practice it probably makes the most sense to temper this out as well, leading to [[miracle temperament]]. This, however, does not render it pointless to consider prodigy; for one thing, scales in prodigy such as hobbit scales translate into interesting scales for miracle.
 
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 441/440
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
[[Associated temperament]]: [[Gamelismic clan #Miracle|miracle]]
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 -13 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 6 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 3 }}]


Mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.8238{{c}}, ~26/15 = 950.8873{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.8191{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~26/15 = 950.2108{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.9486{{c}}


Map to lattice: [{{val| 0 0 -1 -2 -3 }}, {{val| 0 1 -1 0 3 }}]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 29, 43, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef }}


Lattice basis:  
Badness (Sintel): 0.993
: secor length = 0.9111, 3/2 length = 0.9477
: Angle (secor, 3/2) = 65.933


[[Minimax tuning]]:
== Morfil ==
* 11-odd-limit
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 13/12 1/2 -1/4 0 1/12 }}, {{monzo| 13/6 -1 1/2 0 1/6 }}, {{monzo| 3/2 -1 1/2 0 1/2 }}, {{monzo| 0 0 0 0 1 }}]
: [[Eigenmonzo subgroup]]: 2.9/5.11


{{Val list|legend=1| 10, 12, 29, 31, 41, 72, 247c, 319bcde, 391bcde, 463bcde }}
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 1331/1323


Badness: 0.344 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -2 -9 -6 | 0 1 2 6 5 | 0 0 3 6 4 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~55/42


[[Projection pair]]s: 7 225/32 11 91125/8192
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.5931{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.2447{{c}}, ~55/42 = 460.8465{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.593 -0.117 -1.285 +1.942 -2.302 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.1108{{c}}, ~55/42 = 460.5488{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.844 -2.446 +1.131 -3.569 }}


Scales: [[prodigy11]], [[prodigy12]], [[prodigy29]]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 29, 31, 60e, 91e, 94, 125 }}


; Hobbit bases
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.38
{2, 3, 5} subgroup
* 31: 81/80, 34171875/33554432
* 41: 34171875/33554432, 32805/32768


== 13-limit ==
== Subgroup extensions ==
Comma list: 105/104, 196/195, 352/351
=== Char ===
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.17
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 -13 -8 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 6 3 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 3 3 }}]


{{Val list|legend=1| 10, 29, 31, 41, 60e, 72f, 91e, 101cd, 132def, 233cdef, 274cdef, 305cdef }}
Comma list: 120/119, 225/224


Badness: 0.736 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 8 | 0 1 0 2 -1 | 0 0 1 2 -1 }}


== Prodigious ==
Optimal tunings:
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 364/363
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3681{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.3669{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.9641{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.6286{{c}}, ~5/4 = 385.0841{{c}}


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 10, 12, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 -13 -23 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 6 11 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 3 4 }}]
Badness (Sintel): 0.381


{{Val list|legend=1| 29, 41, 72, 113, 185cf, 341cf, 413bcf, 526bcdf }}
=== Devimarvel ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.19


Badness: 0.900 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Comma list: 225/224, 400/399


== Prodigal ==
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 9 | 0 1 0 2 -3 | 0 0 1 2 0 }}
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 351/350


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.3454{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.1728{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7499{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.9546{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.7912{{c}}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -5 -13 -4 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 2 6 -1 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 2 3 4 }}]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 12, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53, 72, 94, 113, 125, 291c }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 31, 72, 103, 175f }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.310


Badness: 0.889 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
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Latest revision as of 12:08, 14 August 2026

This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

The marvel family of rank-3 temperaments tempers out the 7-limit marvel comma (ratio: 225/224, monzo[-5 2 2 -1), also known as septimal kleisma. These temperaments hence equate 16/15 and 15/14, or equivalently they equate two 5/4's and one 14/9. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common equal and rank-2 temperaments.

The marvel comma can also be viewed as a comma of the 2.9.25.7 subgroup. Hence it is tempered out by any subset edos of marvel-supporting edos that have this subgroup, such as 11edo and 17edo which are subsets of 22edo and 34edo (when using the 34d val) which temper out the marvel comma.

Marvel

The head of the marvel family is marvel, which tempers out 225/224. Marvel has a normal generator list of {2, 3, 5}; hence a 5-limit scale can be converted to marvel simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent marvel tuning, is given by 197edo.

Little is gained in tuning accuracy by not tempering out 4375/4374 as well as 225/224, leading to catakleismic, with which it shares the optimal patent val. Another temperament which does little damage to tuning accuracy is compton, for which 240edo may be used. See Marvel temperaments for some other rank-2 temperaments.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 225/224

Mapping[1 0 0 -5], 0 1 0 2], 0 0 1 2]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5

Map to lattice: [0 0 -1 -2], 0 1 -1 0]]

Lattice basis:

~15/14 length = 1.256, ~3/2 length = 1.369
angle (~15/14, ~3/2) = 106.958°

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.5971 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.7560 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8285 ¢
error map: +0.597 -0.602 -1.291 +0.940]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.6222 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8540 ¢
error map: 0.000 -1.333 -2.460 +0.127]

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0, [5/4 1/2 -1/2 1/4, [5/4 -1/2 1/2 1/4, [0 0 0 1]
unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.5/3.7
  • 9-odd-limit: 3 1/6-comma flat, 5 1/3-comma flat, 7 just
[[1 0 0 0, [5/6 2/3 -1/3 1/6, [5/3 -2/3 1/3 1/3, [0 0 0 1]
unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/5.7

Optimal ET sequence9, 10, 12, 19, 31, 41, 53, 72, 197, 269c

Badness (Sintel): 0.161

Projection pairs: 7 225/32

Complexity spectrum: 4/3, 5/4, 7/5, 7/6, 8/7, 6/5, 9/8, 9/7, 10/9

Scales: marvel9, marvel10, marvel11, marvel12, marvel19, marvel22, pump12_1, pump12_2, pump13, pump14, pump15, pump16, pump17, pump18, marvel wholetone

Minkowski blocks

2.3.5 subgroup

  • 8: 16/15, 250/243
  • 9: 135/128, 128/125
  • 10: 25/24, 2048/2025
  • 11: 135/128, 2048/1875
  • 12: 2048/2025, 128/125
  • 15: 128/125, 32768/30375
  • 17: 25/24, 2278125/2097152
  • 19: 16875/16384, 81/80
  • 21: 128/125, 273375/262144
  • 22: 2048/2025, 3125/3072
  • 29: 16875/16384, 32805/32768
  • 31: 81/80, 34171875/33554432
  • 41: 34171875/33554432, 3125/3072

Overview to extensions

The second comma of the normal comma list defines which 11-limit family member we are looking at. 4125/4096 gives unidecimal marvel; 91125/90112 gives prodigy; 5632/5625 gives minerva. These and many others considered below use the same generators as marvel.

Temperaments discussed elsewhere include

Undecimal marvel

Undecimal marvel tempers out 385/384 as well as 540/539, and is loosely associated with wizard. This extension is natural because of the factorization 225/224 = (385/384)⋅(540/539). 197edo remains useful as a tuning, with the 197e val, but 166edo, which among other things has a virtually pure 7, works as well.

In the 13-limit, 225/224 factors as (351/350)⋅(625/624) or (325/324)⋅(729/728). Tempering out 351/350 and 625/624 leads to helios, tempering out 325/324 and 729/728 leads to hecate. Tempering out all of them leads to the 13-limit version of catakleismic.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 225/224, 385/384

Mapping[1 0 0 -5 12], 0 1 0 2 -1], 0 0 1 2 -3]]

Mapping to lattice: [0 -1 0 -2 1], 0 -1 1 0 -2]]

Lattice basis:

~15/14 length = 1.0364, ~5/4 length = 1.0759
angle (~15/14, ~5/4) = 104.028°

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.6395 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.7619 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7447 ¢
error map: +0.639 -0.554 -1.290 +0.827 -0.117]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.6048 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.4538 ¢
error map: 0.000 -1.350 -2.860 -0.709 -2.284]

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0 0, [4/3 8/9 -1/3 0 -1/9, [8/3 -2/9 1/3 0 -2/9, [3 4/3 0 0 -2/3, [8/3 -2/9 -2/3 0 7/9]
unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/5.11/9

Optimal ET sequence9, 10, 12e, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53, 72, 166, 197e, 238c, 269ce, 341ce

Badness (Sintel): 0.306

Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375

Complexity spectrum: 5/4, 4/3, 7/6, 8/7, 7/5, 6/5, 9/7, 12/11, 9/8, 11/8, 11/9, 10/9, 11/10, 14/11

Scales: marvel22_11, unimarv19, unimarv22

Hobbit bases

2.3.5 subgroup

  • 12: 128/125, 2048/2025
  • 15: 128/125, 32768/30375
  • 19: 16875/16384, 81/80
  • 22: 2048/2025, 2109375/2097152
  • 31: 2109375/2097152, 81/80
  • 41: 3125/3072, 34171875/33554432

Helios

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 351/350, 385/384

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 12 -4], 0 1 0 2 -1 -1], 0 0 1 2 -3 4]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.8043 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.2057 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.3188 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.8109 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.1177 ¢

Minimax tuning:

  • 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/9
  • 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.15/11.15/13

Optimal ET sequence: 19, 22, 31, 50, 53, 72, 103, 175f, 300ceff, 403bceeff, 578bbccdeeefff

Badness (Sintel): 0.645

Complexity spectrum: 5/4, 4/3, 16/15, 15/14, 9/7, 6/5, 7/6, 11/8, 7/5, 9/8, 8/7, 10/9, 12/11, 13/10, 11/10, 15/11, 16/13, 11/9, 15/13, 14/13, 13/12, 14/11, 18/13, 13/11

Hecate

Hecate tempers out 325/324, the marveltwin comma, such that 16/13 is found by a stack of two ~10/9's, similar to how 8/7 is found by a stack of two 15/14~16/15's. Hecate has a natural extension to include prime 19, where it further tempers out 400/399 and 513/512, taking advantage of the factorization 225/224 = (400/399)⋅(513/512). For both of these cases 166edo remains an excellent tuning.

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 12 2], 0 1 0 2 -1 4], 0 0 1 2 -3 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.5788 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.3161 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.3471 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.1003 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.1315 ¢

Minimax tuning:

  • 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.13/5
  • 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.15/13

Optimal ET sequence: 19, 22f, 31f, 41, 53, 72, 125f, 166, 238cf

Badness (Sintel): 0.674

Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 324/25

Complexity spectrum: 4/3, 5/4, 16/15, 15/14, 6/5, 9/8, 7/5, 9/7, 7/6, 10/9, 8/7, 18/13, 11/8, 12/11, 13/12, 11/9, 11/10, 15/13, 15/11, 16/13, 13/11, 14/13, 13/10, 14/11

2.3.5.7.11.13.19 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.19

Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 400/399

Subgroup-val mapping: [1 0 0 -5 12 2 9], 0 1 0 2 -1 4 -3], 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 0]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.4716 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.4395 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.2779 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.2002 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.1136 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 41, 53, 72, 94, 113, 166

Badness (Sintel): 0.756

Apotropaia

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 595/594

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 12 2 18], 0 1 0 2 -1 4 0], 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 -6]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.6057 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.3157 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.2243 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.0877 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.9709 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 41, 53g, 72, 166g, 238cfg

Badness (Sintel): 0.827

19-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19

Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 400/399, 595/594

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 12 2 18 9], 0 1 0 2 -1 4 0 -3], 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 -6 0]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.4927 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.4506 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.1291 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.2007 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.9404 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 41, 53g, 72, 94, 113, 166g

Badness (Sintel): 1.01

Enodia

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 375/374, 385/384

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 12 2 -13], 0 1 0 2 -1 4 2], 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 6]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.6165 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.3259 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.5032 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.0949 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.3140 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 41g, 53, 72, 166g, 238cfg

Badness (Sintel): 0.872

19-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19

Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 375/374, 385/384, 400/399

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 12 2 -13 9], 0 1 0 2 -1 4 2 -3], 0 0 1 2 -3 -2 6 0]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.5038 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.4654 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.4549 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.2113 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.3052 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 41g, 53, 72, 94, 125f, 166g

Badness (Sintel): 1.05

Marvell

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 1573/1568

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 12 -29], 0 1 0 2 -1 6], 0 0 1 2 -3 10]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.6404 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.7675 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7772 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.6113 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.4925 ¢

Minimax tuning:

  • 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/5.11/9
  • 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.15/13

Optimal ET sequence: 9, 22f, 31, 63, 72, 103, 166, 238cf, 269ce, 341cef

Badness (Sintel): 0.806

Isis

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 385/384

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 12 17], 0 1 0 2 -1 -4], 0 0 1 2 -3 -3]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.1824 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.0223 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.3028 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.9276 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.2283 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 10, 19f, 22, 31, 41, 53, 84e, 94

Badness (Sintel): 0.810

Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 131072/10125

Deecee

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 364/363, 385/384

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 12 27], 0 1 0 2 -1 -3], 0 0 1 2 -3 -8]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.7533 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.8957 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.0580 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.7184 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.6611 ¢

Minimax tuning:

  • 13-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup (unchanged-interval basis): 2.9/5.13/9
  • 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo subgroup (unchanged-interval basis): 2.3.13/5

Optimal ET sequence: 9, 19f, 22, 31f, 41, 63, 72, 185cf, 257cff

Badness (Sintel): 0.861

Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 134217728/10546875

Tripod

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 196/195

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 12 -8], 0 1 0 2 -1 3], 0 0 1 2 -3 3]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.4789 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.5125 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.1304 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.4041 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.9166 ¢

Minimax tuning:

  • 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13/11
  • 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.5/3.13/11

Optimal ET sequence: 9, 10, 19, 22f, 31, 41, 72f, 91

Badness (Sintel): 0.697

Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 4096/375 13 3375/256

Marvelcat

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 385/384

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 12 -1], 0 2 0 4 -2 3], 0 0 1 2 -3 1]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~26/15, ~5

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.7720 ¢, ~3/2 = 950.8976 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8283 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~26/15 = 950.4265 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.4790 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 9, 10, 19, 43e, 44, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef

Badness (Sintel): 0.935

Prodigy

Prodigy tempers out 441/440 and shrinks 243/242, 384/385, 1024/1029 and 2400/2401 down to the same tiny interval. Hence in practice it probably makes the most sense to temper this out as well, leading to miracle. This, however, does not render it pointless to consider prodigy; for one thing, scales in prodigy such as hobbit scales translate into interesting scales for miracle.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 225/224, 441/440

Mapping[1 0 0 -5 -13], 0 1 0 2 6], 0 0 1 2 3]]

Map to lattice: [0 0 -1 -2 -3], 0 1 -1 0 3]]

Lattice basis:

~15/14 length = 0.9111, ~3/2 length = 0.9477
angle (~15/14, ~3/2) = 65.933°

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.7854 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.2562 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7624 ¢
error map: +0.785 -0.913 -0.980 -0.003 +0.721]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.8610 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7724 ¢
error map: 0.000 -2.094 -2.541 -1.559 -0.835]

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0 0, [13/12 1/2 -1/4 0 1/12, [13/6 -1 1/2 0 1/6, [3/2 -1 1/2 0 1/2, [0 0 0 0 1]
unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/5.11

Optimal ET sequence10, 12, 19e, 29, 31, 41, 60e, 72, 247c, 319bcde, 391bcde, 463bccde

Badness (Sintel): 0.402

Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 91125/8192

Scales: prodigy11, prodigy12, prodigy29

Hobbit bases

2.3.5 subgroup

  • 31: 81/80, 34171875/33554432
  • 41: 34171875/33554432, 32805/32768

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 105/104, 196/195, 352/351

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 -13 -8], 0 1 0 2 6 3], 0 0 1 2 3 3]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.8252 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.8823 ¢, ~5/4 = 381.6647 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.4689 ¢, ~5/4 = 381.6687 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 10, 12f, 19e, 29, 31, 41, 60e, 72f, 101cd

Badness (Sintel): 0.689

Prodigious

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 364/363, 441/440

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 -13 -23], 0 1 0 2 6 11], 0 0 1 2 3 4]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.6284 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.7075 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.4599 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.3302 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.5030 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 12f, 29, 31f, 41, 72, 185cf, 257cff

Badness (Sintel): 0.841

Prodigal

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 351/350, 441/440

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 -13 -4], 0 1 0 2 6 -1], 0 0 1 2 3 4]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.7798 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.9410 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.3494 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.5538 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.3496 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 12f, 19e, 31, 53e, 60eff, 72, 103, 175f

Badness (Sintel): 0.831

Protannic

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 1001/1000

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 -13 21], 0 1 0 2 6 -8], 0 0 1 2 3 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.9450 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.1045 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8716 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.4224 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.9828 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 29, 31, 43, 60e, 72, 103, 175f, 482bccddeefff, 554bbccddeeeffff

Badness (Sintel): 0.891

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 375/374, 441/440

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 -13 21 12], 0 1 0 2 6 -8 -5], 0 0 1 2 3 -2 0]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.9342 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.1708 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7444 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.4849 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8744 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 29g, 31, 43, 60e, 72, 103, 175f, 307bcdeeffg, 379bccdeeffgg, 482bccddeefffgg, 554bbccddeeeffffgg

Badness (Sintel): 0.734

Minerva

Minerva tempers out 99/98 as well as 176/175. It may be described as 12 & 22 & 31, and is loosely associated with würschmidt.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 99/98, 176/175

Mapping[1 0 0 -5 -9], 0 1 0 2 2], 0 0 1 2 4]]

Map to lattice: [0 -1 0 -2 -2], 0 -1 1 0 2]]

Lattice basis:

~16/15 length = 0.8997, ~5/4 length = 1.0457
angle (~16/15, ~5/4) = 98.6044°

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.1086 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.3226 ¢, ~5/4 = 386.5931 ¢
error map: +0.109 -1.524 +0.497 +5.114 -4.192]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.3006 ¢, ~5/4 = 386.5785 ¢
error map: 0.000 -1.654 +0.265 +4.932 -4.403]

Minimax tuning: 11-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7/5.11/9

Optimal ET sequence9, 12, 19e, 22, 31, 53, 84e, 96, 127

Badness (Sintel): 0.458

Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 5625/512

Scales: minerva12, minerva22x

Athene

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 275/273

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 -9 -4], 0 1 0 2 2 -1], 0 0 1 2 4 4]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.9127 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.1832 ¢, ~5/4 = 385.9313 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.2143 ¢, ~5/4 = 385.9336 ¢

Minimax tuning:

  • 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/7
  • 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/7

Optimal ET sequence: 12f, 19e, 22, 31, 53, 84e, 118d

Badness (Sintel): 0.765

Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 5625/512 13 625/48

Apollo

Lattice for apollo.

Apollo tempers out not only 100/99 but 896/891. Note that marvel tempers together 25/24 and 28/27, and apollo further equates it with 33/32 via the vanishing of 100/99. This makes it a weak extension of parapyth, and associates it with magic. The lattice structure is very compact, comparable to that of ares, from which apollo only differs in the mapping of prime 7.

The canonical 13-limit extension is implied by parapyth, tempering out 352/351 and 364/363, but there are a number of other extenions to consider, these being called phoebus and musagetes, after epithets of Apollo. Phoebus tempers out 105/104 and finds ~16/13 as a stack of three secors. Musagetes tempers out 144/143 and conflates 16/13 and 11/9, which in this case is simply a stack of two ~10/9's. These extensions are supported by 13-limit magic, unlike the canonical one.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 100/99, 225/224

Mapping[1 0 0 -5 2], 0 1 0 2 -2], 0 0 1 2 2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.8250 ¢, ~3/2 = 703.3820 ¢, ~5/4 = 381.5476 ¢
error map: -0.175 +1.252 -5.116 +0.858 +4.313]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 703.4612 ¢, ~5/4 = 381.5071 ¢
error map: 0.000 +1.506 -4.807 +1.111 +4.774]

Minimax tuning: 11-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7/5.11/9

Optimal ET sequence12, 19, 22, 34d, 41, 104

Badness (Sintel): 0.637

Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 100/9

Scales: apollo wholetone, indigo17

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 100/99, 225/224, 275/273

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 2 7], 0 1 0 2 -2 -5], 0 0 1 2 2 2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.6919 ¢, ~3/2 = 703.8176 ¢, ~5/4 = 381.4372 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 703.9853 ¢, ~5/4 = 381.3579 ¢

Minimax tuning: 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9.13/9

Optimal ET sequence: 12f, 19f, 22, 29, 34d, 41, 63, 104

Badness (Sintel): 0.964

Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 100/9 13 3200/243

Phoebus

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 100/99, 105/104, 196/195

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 2 1], 0 1 0 2 -2 3], 0 0 1 2 2 3]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.3724 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.5274 ¢, ~5/4 = 379.6345 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.3357 ¢, ~5/4 = 379.6830 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 12f, 19, 22f, 29, 41

Badness (Sintel): 0.886

Musagetes

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 100/99, 144/143, 225/224

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 2 2], 0 1 0 2 -2 4], 0 0 1 2 2 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.2695 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.5589 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.7715 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.7998 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.7740 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 19, 22f, 34d, 41, 75e, 94e, 116ef

Badness (Sintel): 1.14

Potassium

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 45/44, 56/55

Mapping[1 0 0 -5 -2], 0 1 0 2 2], 0 0 1 2 1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.7106 ¢, ~3/2 = 696.0036 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.9572 ¢
error map: -0.289 -6.241 -1.935 -7.194 +25.068]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 696.0586 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.9472 ¢
error map: 0.000 -5.896 -1.367 -6.814 +25.746]

Minimax tuning: 11-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.11

Optimal ET sequence7d, 9, 10, 12, 19, 31e

Badness (Sintel): 0.557

Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 45/4

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, 78/77

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 -2 -8], 0 1 0 2 2 3], 0 0 1 2 1 3]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.8192 ¢, ~3/2 = 695.9054 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.6205 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 695.9480 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.6372 ¢

Minimax tuning:

  • 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13/9
  • 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13/9

Optimal ET sequence: 9, 10, 12f, 19, 31e

Badness (Sintel): 0.686

Projection pairs: 7 225/32 11 45/4 13 3375/256

Malcolm

"Malcolm" redirects here. For Alexander Malcolm's JI scale, see Malcolm (scale).

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 225/224, 2200/2187

Mapping[1 0 0 -5 -3], 0 1 0 2 7], 0 0 1 2 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.5261 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.1990 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.5759 ¢
error map: +0.526 +0.770 -2.686 +1.250 -1.077]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.0535 ¢, ~5/4 = 382.6222 ¢
error map: 0.000 +0.098 -3.692 +0.525 -2.188]

Optimal ET sequence12e, 19e, 34d, 41, 53, 60e, 94, 229c, 248ce, 289cce

Badness (Sintel): 1.50

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 325/324

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 -3 2], 0 1 0 2 7 4], 0 0 1 2 -2 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.2427 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.1575 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.0704 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.0882 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.0630 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 12e, 19e, 34d, 41, 53, 94

Badness (Sintel): 1.00

Scales: malco

Fantastic

Besides 4375/4356, fantastic also tempers out 9801/9800 and splits the octave in two.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 225/224, 4375/4356

Mapping[2 0 0 -10 -7], 0 1 0 2 0], 0 0 1 2 3]]

mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~5

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~99/70 = 600.2896 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.9624 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.4829 ¢
error map: +0.579 -0.413 -1.672 +0.644 +0.579]
  • CWE: ~99/70 = 600.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.8160 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.5350 ¢
error map: 0.000 -1.139 -2.779 -0.124 -0.713]

Optimal ET sequence12, 22, 34d, 50, 60e, 72, 166, 238c, 310c

Badness (Sintel): 0.893

Hestia

Named by Graham Breed in 2011, hestia was found to be locally efficient in the higher limits among all rank-3 extensions of marvel[1], although it is a weak extension.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 225/224, 125000/124509

Mapping[1 0 0 -5 9], 0 2 0 4 -7], 0 0 1 2 0]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~400/231, ~5

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.6417 ¢, ~400/231 = 950.6555 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8518 ¢
error map: +0.642 -0.644 -1.179 +0.858 -0.131]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~400/231 = 950.1211 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.9530 ¢
error map: 0.000 -1.712 -2.361 -0.436 -2.165]

Optimal ET sequence19, 29, 43, 53, 72, 197e, 269ce, 341ce

Badness (Sintel): 1.845

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 1001/1000

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 9 -1], 0 2 0 4 -7 3], 0 0 1 2 0 1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.8238 ¢, ~26/15 = 950.8873 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.8191 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~26/15 = 950.2108 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.9486 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 19, 29, 43, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef

Badness (Sintel): 0.993

Morfil

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 225/224, 1331/1323

Mapping[1 0 -2 -9 -6], 0 1 2 6 5], 0 0 3 6 4]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~55/42

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.5931 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.2447 ¢, ~55/42 = 460.8465 ¢
error map: +0.593 -0.117 -1.285 +1.942 -2.302]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.1108 ¢, ~55/42 = 460.5488 ¢
error map: 0.000 -0.844 -2.446 +1.131 -3.569]

Optimal ET sequence29, 31, 60e, 91e, 94, 125

Badness (Sintel): 1.38

Subgroup extensions

Char

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.17

Comma list: 120/119, 225/224

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 8], 0 1 0 2 -1], 0 0 1 2 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.3681 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.3669 ¢, ~5/4 = 384.9641 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.6286 ¢, ~5/4 = 385.0841 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 9, 10, 12, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53

Badness (Sintel): 0.381

Devimarvel

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.19

Comma list: 225/224, 400/399

Mapping: [1 0 0 -5 9], 0 1 0 2 -3], 0 0 1 2 0]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.3454 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.1728 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7499 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.9546 ¢, ~5/4 = 383.7912 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 10, 12, 19, 22, 31, 41, 53, 72, 94, 113, 125, 291c

Badness (Sintel): 0.310

References