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Here are all [[meantone]] tunings that can be written in the form "n-comma meantone", where n is a fraction between -1 and 1 with a denominator 18 or smaller. | Here are all [[meantone]] tunings that can be written in the form "n-comma meantone", where n is a fraction between -1 and 1 with a denominator 18 or smaller. | ||
Also included are 7, 12, 17 and 5 [[edo]]s (to delineate [[MOS]] shapes), as well as the other tunings listed under "[[historical temperaments]]" (e.g. 4/25-comma), ''but only the ones of the form "n-comma"''. | Also included are 7, 12, 17 and 5 [[edo]]s (to delineate [[MOS]] shapes), as well as the other tunings listed under "[[historical temperaments]]" (e.g. 4/25-comma), ''but only the ones of the form "n-comma"''. All of these tunings are closet to a large enough [[EDO|edo]], but labelling them beyond [[100edo]] would clutter the table. | ||
The comma being divided here is the syntonic comma ([[81/80]]). | The comma being divided here is the syntonic comma ([[81/80]]). | ||
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|[[1/1-comma meantone]]||680.449||Close to [[30edo]] | |[[1/1-comma meantone]]||680.449||Close to [[30edo]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[ | |[[17/18-comma meantone]] | ||
|681.644 | |||
|Close to [[37edo]]. | |||
|- | |- | ||
|[[ | |[[16/17-comma meantone]] | ||
|681.713 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|[[15/16-comma meantone]]||681.793|| Close to [[44edo]] | |||
|- | |||
|[[14/15-comma meantone]]||681.883|| | |||
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|[[13/14-comma meantone]]||681.985|| | |[[13/14-comma meantone]]||681.985|| | ||
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|[[11/12-comma meantone]]||682.241|| | |[[11/12-comma meantone]]||682.241|| | ||
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|[[ | |[[10/11-comma meantone]]||682.404||Close to [[51edo]] | ||
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|[[9/10-comma meantone]]||682.599|| | |[[9/10-comma meantone]]||682.599|| | ||
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|[[8/9-comma meantone]]||682.838||Close to [[58edo]] | |[[8/9-comma meantone]]||682.838||Close to [[58edo]] | ||
|- | |||
|[[15/17-comma meantone]] | |||
|682.979 | |||
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|[[7/8-comma meantone]]||683.137||Close to [[65edo]] | |[[7/8-comma meantone]]||683.137||Close to [[65edo]] | ||
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|[[11/13-comma meantone]]||683.757||Close to [[86edo]] | |[[11/13-comma meantone]]||683.757||Close to [[86edo]] | ||
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|[[5/6-comma meantone]]||684.033|| | |[[16/19-comma meantone]] | ||
|683.844 | |||
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|- | |||
|[[21/25-comma meantone]] | |||
|683.890 | |||
|Close to [[93edo]] | |||
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|[[5/6-comma meantone]]||684.033|| Close to [[86edo|100edo]] | |||
|- | |||
|[[14/17-comma meantone]] | |||
|684.244 | |||
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|[[9/11-comma meantone]]||684.359|| | |[[9/11-comma meantone]]||684.359|| | ||
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|[[7/9-comma meantone]]||685.228|| | |[[7/9-comma meantone]]||685.228|| | ||
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|[[10/13-comma meantone]]||685.412||Everything up to this point generates 9 and 16 tone MOS scales. | |[[10/13-comma meantone]]||685.412|| | ||
|- | |||
|[[13/17-comma meantone]] | |||
|685.509 | |||
|Everything up to this point generates 9 and 16 tone MOS scales. | |||
|- | |- | ||
|[[7edo]]||685.714||The largest MOS scale this can generate is 7 tone. '''Lower boundary of 5-limit diamond monotone.''' | |[[7edo]]||685.714||The largest MOS scale this can generate is 7 tone. '''Lower boundary of 5-limit diamond monotone.''' | ||
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|[[11/15-comma meantone]]||686.184|| | |[[11/15-comma meantone]]||686.184|| | ||
|- | |||
|[[19/26-comma meantone]] | |||
|686.239 | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
|[[8/11-comma meantone]]||686.314|| | |[[8/11-comma meantone]]||686.314|| | ||
|- | |||
|[[13/18-comma meantone]] | |||
|686.423 | |||
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|[[5/7-comma meantone]]||686.593|| | |[[5/7-comma meantone]]||686.593|| | ||
|- | |||
|[[17/24-comma meantone]] | |||
|686.721 | |||
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|- | |||
|[[12/17-comma meantone]] | |||
|686.774 | |||
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|[[7/10-comma meantone]]||686.901|| | |[[7/10-comma meantone]]||686.901|| | ||
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|[[2/3-comma meantone]]||687.617||Close to [[89edo]] | |[[2/3-comma meantone]]||687.617||Close to [[89edo]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[ | |[[17/26-comma meantone]] | ||
|687.893 | |||
|Close to [[82edo]]. | |||
|- | |||
|[[15/23-comma meantone]] | |||
|687.929 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|[[13/20-comma meantone]] | |||
|687.976 | |||
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|- | |||
|[[11/17-comma meantone]] | |||
|688.039 | |||
|Close to [[75edo]] | |||
|- | |||
|[[9/14-comma meantone]]||688.129|| | |||
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|[[7/11-comma meantone]]||688.269||Close to [[68edo]] | |[[7/11-comma meantone]]||688.269||Close to [[68edo]] | ||
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|[[5/8-comma meantone]]||688.514||Close to [[61edo]] | |[[5/8-comma meantone]]||688.514||Close to [[61edo]] | ||
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|[[8/13-comma meantone]]||688.720||Close to [[54edo]] | |[[Golden ratio comma meantone]] | ||
|688.663 | |||
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|- | |||
|[[8/13-comma meantone]]||688.720|| | |||
|- | |||
|[[11/18-comma meantone]] | |||
|688.812 | |||
|Close to [[54edo]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
|[[3/5-comma meantone]]||689.051|| | |[[3/5-comma meantone]]||689.051|| | ||
|- | |||
|[[10/17-comma meantone]] | |||
|689.304 | |||
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|[[7/12-comma meantone]]||689.410||Close to [[47edo]] | |[[7/12-comma meantone]]||689.410||Close to [[47edo]] | ||
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|[[7/13-comma meantone]]||690.375||Close to [[73edo]] | |[[7/13-comma meantone]]||690.375||Close to [[73edo]] | ||
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|[[8/15-comma meantone]]||690.485||Close to [[33edo]] | |[[8/15-comma meantone]]||690.485|| | ||
|- | |||
|[[9/17-comma meantone]] | |||
|690.569 | |||
|Close to [[33edo]] | |||
|- | |||
![[1/2-comma meantone]]!!691.202!!Close to [[92edo]], [[59edo]]. Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]]). Everything up to this point does not meet the original historical definition of meantone (the whole tone being between 10/9 and 9/8). | |||
|- | |||
![[8/17-comma meantone]] | |||
!691.834 | |||
!Close to [[85edo]] | |||
|- | |||
![[7/15-comma meantone]]!!691.919!! | |||
|- | |||
![[6/13-comma meantone]]!!692.029!! | |||
|- | |||
![[5/11-comma meantone]]!!692.179!! | |||
|- | |||
![[4/9-comma meantone]]!!692.397!!Close to [[26edo]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[7/16-comma meantone]]!!692.546!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[3/7-comma meantone]]!!692.738!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[5/12-comma meantone]]!!692.994!!Close to [[71edo]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[7/17-comma meantone]]!!693.099!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[2/5-comma meantone]]!!693.352!!Close to [[45edo]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[7/18-comma meantone]]!!693.591!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[5/13-comma meantone]]!!693.683!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[Split Golden ratio comma meantone]] | |||
!693.740 | |||
!Close to [[64edo]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[3/8-comma meantone]]!!693.890!!Close to [[83edo]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[4/11-comma meantone]]!!694.134!!Almost exactly 1/3-''Pythagorean'' comma meantone | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[5/14-comma meantone]]!!694.274!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[6/17-comma meantone]]!!694.365!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[7/20-comma meantone]] | |||
!694.428 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[8/23-comma meantone]] | |||
!694.475 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[9/26-comma meantone]] | |||
!694.511 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/3-comma meantone]]!!694.786!!Close to [[19edo]]. Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]]). | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[5/16-comma meantone]]!!695.234!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[4/13-comma meantone]]!!695.338!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[3/10-comma meantone]]!!695.503!!Close to [[88edo]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[5/17-comma meantone]]!!695.630!!Close to [[69edo]]. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[7/24-comma meantone]] | |||
!695.682 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[2/7-comma meantone]]!!695.810!!Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]]). | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[5/18-comma meantone]]!!695.981!!Close to [[50edo]]. Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]]). | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[3/11-comma meantone]]!!696.090!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[7/26-comma meantone]]!!696.165!!Close to [[golden meantone]]. Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]]). | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[4/15-comma meantone]]!!696.220!!Close to [[81edo]], close to [[golden meantone]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[Quarter-comma meantone|1/4-comma meantone]]!!696.578!!Close to [[31edo]]. Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]]). | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[4/17-comma meantone]]!!696.895!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[3/13-comma meantone]]!!696.992!!Close to [[7-limit|septimal]] & [[tridecimal]] meantone [[CTE]] tunings. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[2/9-comma meantone]]!!697.176!!Close to [[5-limit]] and [[undecimal]] meantone CTE tunings. Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]]). | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[3/14-comma meantone]]!!697.346!!Close to [[74edo]]. Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]]). | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/5-comma meantone]]!!697.654!!Close to [[43edo]]. Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]]). | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[3/16-comma meantone]]!!697.923!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[2/11-comma meantone]]!!698.045!!Close to [[55edo]]. Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]]). | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[3/17-comma meantone]]!!699.425!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/6-comma meantone]]!!698.371!!Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]]). | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[4/25-comma meantone]]!!698.514!!Close to [[67edo]]. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[3/19-comma meantone]] | |||
!698.559 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[2/13-comma meantone]]!!698.646!! Close to [[79edo]]. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/7-comma meantone]]!!698.883!!Close to [[91edo]]. Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]]). | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[2/15-comma meantone]]!!699.088!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/8-comma meantone]]!!699.267!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[2/17-comma meantone]]!!699.425!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/9-comma meantone]]!!699.565!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/10-comma meantone]]!!699.804!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/11-comma meantone]]!!700.000!!Everything up to this point generates 12 and 19 tone MOS scales. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[12edo]]!!700.000!!The largest MOS scale this can generate is 12 tone. Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]].) | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/12-comma meantone]]!!700.163!!Everything from this point onwards generates 12 and 17 tone MOS scales. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/13-comma meantone]]!!700.301!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/14-comma meantone]]!!700.419!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/15-comma meantone]]!!700.521!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/16-comma meantone]]!!700.611!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/17-comma meantone]]!!700.690!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[1/18-comma meantone]]!!700.760!! | |||
|- | |- | ||
|[[-1/18-comma meantone]] | !0/1-comma meantone!!701.955!![[Pythagorean tuning]]. Historically significant (see [[historical temperaments]].) Everything from this point onwards does not meet the original historical definition of meantone (the whole tone being between 10/9 and 9/8). | ||
|703. | |- | ||
| | ![[-1/18-comma meantone]] | ||
!703.150 | |||
! | |||
|- | |||
![[-1/17-comma meantone]] | |||
!703.220 | |||
! | |||
|- | |||
![[-1/16-comma meantone]] | |||
!703.299 | |||
! | |||
|- | |||
![[-1/15-comma meantone]] | |||
!703.389 | |||
!Close to 11/13 third-[[kleisma]] temperament. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-1/14-comma meantone]] | |||
!703.491 | |||
!Close to [[29edo]]. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-1/13-comma meantone]] | |||
!703.609 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-1/12-comma meantone]] | |||
!703.747 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-1/11-comma meantone]] | |||
!703.910 | |||
!About as sharp of [[Pythagorean tuning]] as [[12edo]] is flat. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-1/10-comma meantone]] | |||
!704.105 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-1/9-comma meantone]] | |||
!704.344 | |||
!Close to [[46edo]], 11/7 quarter-kleisma temperament. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-2/17-comma meantone]] | |||
!704.483 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-1/8-comma meantone]] | |||
!704.643 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-2/15-comma meantone]] | |||
!704.823 | |||
!Close to [[63edo]]. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-1/7-comma meantone]] | |||
!705.027 | |||
!Close to [[80edo]]. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-2/13-comma meantone]] | |||
!705.350 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-3/19-comma meantone]] | |||
!705.350 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-4/25-comma meantone]] | |||
!705.396 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-1/6-comma meantone]] | |||
!705.538 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-3/17-comma meantone]] | |||
!705.750 | |||
!About as sharp of [[Pythagorean tuning]] as [[55edo]] is flat. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-2/11-comma meantone]] | |||
!705.865 | |||
!Everything up to this point generates 17 and 29 tone MOS scales. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[17edo]] | |||
!705.882 | |||
!Vaguely resembles Middle Eastern neutral third scales. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-3/16-comma meantone]] | |||
!705.987 | |||
!Everything from this point onwards generates 17 and 22 tone MOS scales. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-1/5-comma meantone]] | |||
!706.256 | |||
!About as sharp of [[Pythagorean tuning]] as [[43edo]] is flat. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-3/14-comma meantone]] | |||
!706.563 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-2/9-comma meantone]] | |||
!706.734 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-3/13-comma meantone]] | |||
!706.918 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-4/17-comma meantone]] | |||
!707.015 | |||
!About as sharp of [[Pythagorean tuning]] as [[74edo]] is flat. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[Negative Quarter-comma meantone]] | |||
!707.332 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-4/15-comma meantone]] | |||
!707.690 | |||
!About as sharp of [[Pythagorean tuning]] as [[Golden meantone]] is flat. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-7/26-comma meantone]] | |||
!707.745 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-3/11-comma meantone]] | |||
!707.820 | |||
!Almost exactly -1/4-''Pythagorean'' comma meantone | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-5/18-comma meantone]] | |||
!707.930 | |||
!About as sharp of [[Pythagorean tuning]] as [[50edo]] is flat. Close to [[86edo|100edo]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-2/7-comma meantone]] | |||
!708.100 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-7/24-comma meantone]] | |||
!708.227 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-5/17-comma meantone]] | |||
!708.280 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-3/10-comma meantone]] | |||
!708.407 | |||
| | !About as sharp of [[Pythagorean tuning]] as [[19edo|Lucy tuning]] is flat. Nearly as sharp of [[Pythagorean tuning]] as [[88edo]] is flat. | ||
|- | |- | ||
![[-4/13-comma meantone]] | |||
!708.572 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-5/16-comma meantone]] | |||
!708.675 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-1/3-comma meantone]] | |||
!709.124 | |||
!Close to [[22edo]]. About as sharp of [[Pythagorean tuning]] as [[19edo]] is flat. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-9/26-comma meantone]] | |||
!709.399 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-8/23-comma meantone]] | |||
!709.435 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-7/20-comma meanetone]] | |||
!709.482 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-6/17-comma meantone]] | |||
!709.545 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-5/14-comma meantone]] | |||
!709.636 | |||
!Close to [[93edo]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-4/11-comma meantone]] | |||
!709.775 | |||
!Almost exactly -1/3-''Pythagorean'' comma meantone. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-3/8-comma meantone]] | |||
!710.019 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[Negative Split Golden ratio comma meantone]] | |||
!710.170 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-5/13-comma meantone]] | |||
!710.227 | |||
!Close to [[49edo]]. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-7/18-comma meantone]] | |||
!710.319 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-2/5-comma meantone]] | |||
!710.558 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-7/17-comma meantone]] | |||
!710.810 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-5/12-comma meantone]] | |||
!710.915 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-3/7-comma meantone]] | |||
!711.172 | |||
!Close to [[27edo]]. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-7/16-comma meantone]] | |||
!711.364 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-4/9-comma meantone]] | |||
!711.513 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-5/11-comma meantone]] | |||
!711.731 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-6/13-comma meantone]] | |||
!711.880 | |||
!Close to [[59edo]]. | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-7/15-comma meantone]] | |||
!711.991 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-8/17-comma meantone]] | |||
!712.075 | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
![[-1/2-comma meantone]] | |||
!712.708 | |||
!Close to [[32edo]]. Everything from this point onwards does not meet the negative harmonic definition of meantone (the whole tone being between 9/8 and 729/640). | |||
|- | |- | ||
|[[-9/17-comma meantone]] | |[[-9/17-comma meantone]] |
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Here are all meantone tunings that can be written in the form "n-comma meantone", where n is a fraction between -1 and 1 with a denominator 18 or smaller.
Also included are 7, 12, 17 and 5 edos (to delineate MOS shapes), as well as the other tunings listed under "historical temperaments" (e.g. 4/25-comma), but only the ones of the form "n-comma". All of these tunings are closet to a large enough edo, but labelling them beyond 100edo would clutter the table.
The comma being divided here is the syntonic comma (81/80).
Temperaments that fall outside of the diamond monotone range will not provide most of the advantages that meantone usually provides, but they are included for completeness.
Dozens of tunings on the table are significant to negative harmony temperament theory, enough that labelling them all individually would clutter the table.