Collection of EDO impressions: Difference between revisions

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: '''Yourmusic Productions''': Any combination of more than 2 notes sounds bad, and most 2 note combinations sound bad too. Just vile.

: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' I'm convinced anyone who thinks this edo legitimately sounds good are lying

: '''Deja Igliashon:''' Do you like 24edo? Do you think a chord of 0-400-550-700-850-1000¢ sounds close enough to 8:10:11:12:13:14? Great! Now play just the 10:11:12:13:14 part of the chord--it's 0-150-300-450-600¢, which also happens to be five consecutive notes of 8edo. Say what?! A decently-concordant 5-note chord in an 8-note tuning that everyone thinks is awful?! Who knew?? You can even extend it to 10:11:12:13:14:17 if you like that spicy 17th-harmonic flavor: just add 900¢ to the chord, and enjoy playing 3/4 of all the notes in the tuning at once and still sounding good!

== [[9edo]] ==

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: '''Yourmusic Productions''': Marvellously elegant little system. More than enough room for complex melodies and fortifying them with double-stopped 3rds and 6ths sounds awesome.

: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' The only song I ever heard in this edo was from the video "1 to 11 tone Equal temperament songs" by 5 hideya, but it sounded like anxiety on steroids.

: '''Deja Igliashon:''' Do you like 36edo? Do you think a chord of 0-400-567-700-833-967-1100¢ sounds close enough to 8:10:11:12:13:14:15? Rad! Now play just the 11:12:13:14:15 part of the chord--it's 0-133-267-400-533¢, which also happens to be five consecutive notes of 9edo. You can even extend it to approximate 11:12:13:14:15:19 if you're into that kinky 19-limit stuff, just add 933¢ on top!

== [[10edo]] ==

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: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' Apparently it's pretty cool.

: '''Bill Sethares:''' ''If God Had Intended Us To Play In Ten Tones Per Octave, Then He Would Have Given Us Ten Fingers''

: '''Deja Igliashon:''' How is nobody talking about how awesome this tuning is for 8:13:14:15 chords? Like if you understand 15-limit JI at all, and you look at the intervals of this tuning, the harmonic series implications should just be slapping you across the face with an ice-cold salmon straight from the river. Lots of big accurate EDOs like 50edo and 60edo get their approximations to the 7th, 13th, and 15th harmonics from 10edo. And jeez, give a blues guitarist a 10edo guitar and she'll absolutely shred it without thinking twice because so many blues guitar gestures work just great in 10edo.

== [[11edo]] ==

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: '''Yourmusic Productions''': It can almost pass for 12 as long as you only play one note at at time, but more than that and it's limitations become painfully clear.

: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' One of the only ones I'll probably never explore out of sheer fear

: '''Deja Igliashon:''' Mike mostly said it, but also: if you like 22edo's approximation to 4:5:6:7:9:11:15:17, all you gotta do is leave out the 5/4 and 3/2 and everything else is in 11edo. If ya wanna make really zonky xenharmonic music and don't care to keep the 3rd and 5th harmonics around, 11edo absolutely rules. Heck, even if you try playing tertian triads, i.e. 0-3-7 and 0-4-7, you're still more or less approximating 9:11:14 and 7:9:11, which aren't even that weird. Why are people so scared of this tuning??

== [[12edo]] ==

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: '''Yourmusic Productions''': The more I study it, the more it's flaws and limitations irritate me.

: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime''': For all the hate others have for 12edo, I have love and respect. I believe we microtonal musicians take it for granted, and while it's not the best edo to be the western standard regarding sheer possibilities in this tuning, it's very far from the worst choice imo, and I'd personally choose it as western culture's standard tuning over most all other edos of a similar size.

: '''Deja Igliashon:''' why is no one talking about how good the 8:9:10:12:15:17:19 chords are in this tuning? You can even sneak a 14th harmonic in there at 1000¢ and it won't harsh the sound very noticeably.

== [[13edo]] ==

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: '''Yourmusic Productions''': All the various kinds of 9thno5 chords work, and have interesting new flavours compared to their 12edo equivalents. Well worth getting to grips with the cluster based harmony needed to make it sound nice.

: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' The other one I'll probably never explore out of sheer fear

: '''Deja Igliashon:''' I'm amazed that people are actually using the random scale names I put on the 13edo wiki page (archeotonic, oneirotonic, etc.)! That's so cool! I love 13edo and I'm happy some other folks do too. It's fantastic for approximating 8:9:10:11:13:17:21 for such a small number of notes. 13edo's approximation to 13/8 also happens to be quite close to acoustic phi, for those who are into that sort of thing--stretch the octave a few cents sharp and you can get some really interesting phi-based combination tones.

== [[14edo]] ==

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 : '''Yourmusic Productions''': Any combination of more than 2 notes sounds bad, and most 2 note combinations sound bad too. Just vile.
 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' I'm convinced anyone who thinks this edo legitimately sounds good are lying
+: '''Deja Igliashon:''' Do you like 24edo? Do you think a chord of 0-400-550-700-850-1000¢ sounds close enough to 8:10:11:12:13:14? Great! Now play just the 10:11:12:13:14 part of the chord--it's 0-150-300-450-600¢, which also happens to be five consecutive notes of 8edo. Say what?! A decently-concordant 5-note chord in an 8-note tuning that everyone thinks is awful?! Who knew?? You can even extend it to 10:11:12:13:14:17 if you like that spicy 17th-harmonic flavor: just add 900¢ to the chord, and enjoy playing 3/4 of all the notes in the tuning at once and still sounding good!
 == [[9edo]] ==
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 : '''Yourmusic Productions''': Marvellously elegant little system. More than enough room for complex melodies and fortifying them with double-stopped 3rds and 6ths sounds awesome.
 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' The only song I ever heard in this edo was from the video "1 to 11 tone Equal temperament songs" by 5 hideya, but it sounded like anxiety on steroids.
+: '''Deja Igliashon:''' Do you like 36edo? Do you think a chord of 0-400-567-700-833-967-1100¢ sounds close enough to 8:10:11:12:13:14:15? Rad! Now play just the 11:12:13:14:15 part of the chord--it's 0-133-267-400-533¢, which also happens to be five consecutive notes of 9edo. You can even extend it to approximate 11:12:13:14:15:19 if you're into that kinky 19-limit stuff, just add 933¢ on top!
 == [[10edo]] ==
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 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' Apparently it's pretty cool.
 : '''Bill Sethares:''' ''If God Had Intended Us To Play In Ten Tones Per Octave, Then He Would Have Given Us Ten Fingers''
+: '''Deja Igliashon:''' How is nobody talking about how awesome this tuning is for 8:13:14:15 chords? Like if you understand 15-limit JI at all, and you look at the intervals of this tuning, the harmonic series implications should just be slapping you across the face with an ice-cold salmon straight from the river. Lots of big accurate EDOs like 50edo and 60edo get their approximations to the 7th, 13th, and 15th harmonics from 10edo. And jeez, give a blues guitarist a 10edo guitar and she'll absolutely shred it without thinking twice because so many blues guitar gestures work just great in 10edo.
 == [[11edo]] ==
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 : '''Yourmusic Productions''': It can almost pass for 12 as long as you only play one note at at time, but more than that and it's limitations become painfully clear.
 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' One of the only ones I'll probably never explore out of sheer fear
+: '''Deja Igliashon:''' Mike mostly said it, but also: if you like 22edo's approximation to 4:5:6:7:9:11:15:17, all you gotta do is leave out the 5/4 and 3/2 and everything else is in 11edo. If ya wanna make really zonky xenharmonic music and don't care to keep the 3rd and 5th harmonics around, 11edo absolutely rules. Heck, even if you try playing tertian triads, i.e. 0-3-7 and 0-4-7, you're still more or less approximating 9:11:14 and 7:9:11, which aren't even that weird. Why are people so scared of this tuning??
 == [[12edo]] ==
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 : '''Yourmusic Productions''': The more I study it, the more it's flaws and limitations irritate me.
 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime''': For all the hate others have for 12edo, I have love and respect. I believe we microtonal musicians take it for granted, and while it's not the best edo to be the western standard regarding sheer possibilities in this tuning, it's very far from the worst choice imo, and I'd personally choose it as western culture's standard tuning over most all other edos of a similar size.
+: '''Deja Igliashon:''' why is no one talking about how good the 8:9:10:12:15:17:19 chords are in this tuning? You can even sneak a 14th harmonic in there at 1000¢ and it won't harsh the sound very noticeably.
 == [[13edo]] ==
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 : '''Yourmusic Productions''': All the various kinds of 9thno5 chords work, and have interesting new flavours compared to their 12edo equivalents. Well worth getting to grips with the cluster based harmony needed to make it sound nice.
 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' The other one I'll probably never explore out of sheer fear
+: '''Deja Igliashon:''' I'm amazed that people are actually using the random scale names I put on the 13edo wiki page (archeotonic, oneirotonic, etc.)! That's so cool! I love 13edo and I'm happy some other folks do too. It's fantastic for approximating 8:9:10:11:13:17:21 for such a small number of notes. 13edo's approximation to 13/8 also happens to be quite close to acoustic phi, for those who are into that sort of thing--stretch the octave a few cents sharp and you can get some really interesting phi-based combination tones.
 == [[14edo]] ==