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== Which temperaments should I use to make music? ==
== Which temperaments should I use to make music? ==
There are many different schools of thought within RTT (regular temperament theory).
There are many different schools of thought within RTT (regular temperament theory).


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== How to read the tables ==
== How to read the tables ==
'''Rows'''
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Subgroups with no 2s, e.g. 3.5.7.11, are the most jarring break away from familiar harmony, which one may consider a good or a bad thing.
Subgroups with no 2s, e.g. 3.5.7.11, are the most jarring break away from familiar harmony, which one may consider a good or a bad thing.


Subgroups with 2s and 3s but no 5s, e.g. 2.3.7.11, preserve the most fundamental familiar intervals like the octave and the fifth, but do away with the 5-limit major and minor intervals of common practice harmony<ref>According to the 2.3.5 reading of common practice harmony. Alternate readings are possible.</ref>, forcing innovation while still keeping some familiarity.
Subgroups with 2s and 3s but no 5s, e.g. 2.3.7.11, preserve the most fundamental familiar intervals like the octave and the fifth, but do away with the 5-limit major and minor intervals of common practice harmony<ref group="note">According to the 2.3.5 reading of common practice harmony. Alternate readings are possible.</ref>, forcing innovation while still keeping some familiarity.


Some theorists believe including 13, 17 or higher in a subgroup is pointless because the brain can't register such complex intervals. Others believe these intervals are registered by the brain, perhaps subtly and subconsciously in some instances, but still there.
Some theorists believe including 13, 17 or higher in a subgroup is pointless because the brain can't register such complex intervals. Others believe these intervals are registered by the brain, perhaps subtly and subconsciously in some instances, but still there.
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{| class="wikitable center-all"
{| class="wikitable center-all"
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! JI subgroup
! JI subgroup
! ~10 notes per equave<ref>Number of notes per equave was estimated by multiplying the temperament’s [[graham complexity]] by 2.</ref>
! ~10 notes per equave<ref group="note">Number of notes per equave was estimated by multiplying the temperament’s [[graham complexity]] by 2.</ref>
! ~20 notes
! ~20 notes
! ~30 notes
! ~30 notes
! ~40 notes
! ~40 notes
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|-
! 5-limit <br>(2 . 3 . 5)
! 5-limit <br />(2.3.5)
| [[hanson]], [[misty]], [[magic]], [[meantone]], [[negri]], [[augmented]], [[porcupine]], [[dimipent]], [[whitewood]], [[blackwood]], [[mavila]]
| [[hanson]], [[misty]], [[magic]], [[meantone]], [[negri]], [[augmented]], [[porcupine]], [[dimipent]], [[whitewood]], [[blackwood]], [[mavila]]
| [[helmholtz]], [[orson]], [[wuerschmidt]], [[sensipent]], [[compton]], [[valentine]], [[diaschismic]], [[tetracot]], [[passion]], [[superpyth]], [[ripple]]
| [[helmholtz]], [[orson]], [[wuerschmidt]], [[sensipent]], [[compton]], [[valentine]], [[diaschismic]], [[tetracot]], [[passion]], [[superpyth]], [[ripple]]
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| [[enneadecal]], [[gammic]], [[vulture]]
| [[enneadecal]], [[gammic]], [[vulture]]
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|-
! 7-limit <br>(2 . 3 . 5 . 7)
! 7-limit <br />(2.3.5.7)
| [[porcupine]], [[pajara]], [[keemun]], [[negri]], [[doublewide]], [[injera]], [[dominant]], [[august]], [[diminished]], [[blacksmith]]
| [[porcupine]], [[pajara]], [[keemun]], [[negri]], [[doublewide]], [[injera]], [[dominant]], [[august]], [[diminished]], [[blacksmith]]
| [[orwell]], [[valentine]], [[myna]], [[magic]], [[meantone]], [[mothra]], [[superpyth]], [[flattone]], [[liese]], [[beatles]], [[augene]], [[hedgehog]], [[nautilus]], [[catler]], [[godzilla]],  [[lemba]],
| [[orwell]], [[valentine]], [[myna]], [[magic]], [[meantone]], [[mothra]], [[superpyth]], [[flattone]], [[liese]], [[beatles]], [[augene]], [[hedgehog]], [[nautilus]], [[catler]], [[godzilla]],  [[lemba]],
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| [[misty]], [[unidec]], [[catakleismic]]
| [[misty]], [[unidec]], [[catakleismic]]
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|-
! 11-limit <br>(2 . 3 . 5 . 7 . 11)
! 11-limit <br />(2.3.5.7.11)
| [[triforce]], [[blacksmith]], [[pajaric]], [[negric]]
| [[triforce]], [[blacksmith]], [[pajaric]], [[negric]]
| [[orwell]], [[valentine]], [[mohajira]], [[porcupine]], [[hedgehog]], [[astrology]], [[vigintiduo]], [[augene]], [[nautilus]], [[catnip]], [[undevigintone]], [[injera]], [[keemun]], [[progress]], [[dominant]], [[meanenneadecal]], [[duodecim]]
| [[orwell]], [[valentine]], [[mohajira]], [[porcupine]], [[hedgehog]], [[astrology]], [[vigintiduo]], [[augene]], [[nautilus]], [[catnip]], [[undevigintone]], [[injera]], [[keemun]], [[progress]], [[dominant]], [[meanenneadecal]], [[duodecim]]
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| [[miracle]], [[shrutar]], [[magic]], [[meanpop]], [[migration]], [[andromeda]], [[superpyth]]
| [[miracle]], [[shrutar]], [[magic]], [[meanpop]], [[migration]], [[andromeda]], [[superpyth]]
|-
|-
! 13-limit <br>(2 . 3 . 5 . 7 . 11 . 13)
! 13-limit <br />(2.3.5.7.11.13)
| [[negric]]
| [[negric]]
| [[augene]], [[porcupine]], [[hedgehog]], [[triforce]], [[godzilla]], [[negri]], [[armodue]]
| [[augene]], [[porcupine]], [[hedgehog]], [[triforce]], [[godzilla]], [[negri]], [[armodue]]
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| [[mirkat]], [[diaschismic]], [[miraculous]], [[andromeda]], [[superkleismic]], [[mothra]], [[mohajira]], [[undevigintone]], [[ogene]], [[nautilus]], [[negroni]], [[injera]]
| [[mirkat]], [[diaschismic]], [[miraculous]], [[andromeda]], [[superkleismic]], [[mothra]], [[mohajira]], [[undevigintone]], [[ogene]], [[nautilus]], [[negroni]], [[injera]]
|-
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! 17-limit <br>(2 . 3 . 5 . 7 . 11 . 13 . 17)
! 17-limit <br />(2.3.5.7.11.13.17)
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| [[lemba]]+, [[hedgehog]]+
| [[lemba]]+, [[hedgehog]]+
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| [[mirkat]], [[miraculous]], [[lupercalia]]+, [[mohajira]], [[superpyth]]+, [[meantoid]], [[injera]], [[meanenneadecal]]
| [[mirkat]], [[miraculous]], [[lupercalia]]+, [[mohajira]], [[superpyth]]+, [[meantoid]], [[injera]], [[meanenneadecal]]
|-
|-
! 19-limit <br>(2 . 3 . 5 . 7 . 11 . 13 . 17 . 19)
! 19-limit <br />(2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19)
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| [[niner]]++
| [[niner]]++
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| [[lupercalia]]+++, [[nautilus]]+++, [[negroni]]+++, [[injera]]+
| [[lupercalia]]+++, [[nautilus]]+++, [[negroni]]+++, [[injera]]+
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! 2 . 3 . 5 . 7 . other n
! 2.3.5.7.other n
| [[negra]]
| [[negra]]
| no-11 [[godzilla]], no-11 [[pajara]], no-11 [[duodecim]]
| no-11 [[godzilla]], no-11 [[pajara]], no-11 [[duodecim]]
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| no-11 [[catakleismic]]
| no-11 [[catakleismic]]
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! 2 . 3 . 5 . 11 <br>and its extensions
! 2.3.5.11 <br />and its extensions
| [[porkypine]], [[mavila]], [[dicot]]
| [[porkypine]], [[mavila]], [[dicot]]
| [[orson]]+, [[tetracot]], [[mohaha]]
| [[orson]]+, [[tetracot]], [[mohaha]]
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| [[escapade]]
| [[escapade]]
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! 2 . 3 . 5 . other n
! 2.3.5.other n
| [[srutal archagall]], [[stutzel]]
| [[srutal archagall]], [[stutzel]]
| [[sensipent]], [[nestoria]]
| [[sensipent]], [[nestoria]]
| [[wuerschmidt]]<ref>Subgroup 2.3.5.23 version.</ref>, [[cata]]
| [[wuerschmidt]]<ref group="note">Subgroup 2.3.5.23 version.</ref>, [[cata]]
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! 2 . 3 . 7
! 2.3.7
| [[slendric]], [[archy]], [[bleu]], [[semaphore]]
| [[slendric]], [[archy]], [[bleu]], [[semaphore]]
| [[stearnsmic clan|stearnsmic]], [[skwares]]
| [[stearnsmic clan|stearnsmic]], [[skwares]]
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! 2 . 3 . 7 . 11 <br>and its extensions
! 2.3.7.11 <br />and its extensions
| [[bleu]], [[supra]], [[semaphore]]+
| [[bleu]], [[supra]], [[semaphore]]+
| [[skwares]], [[stearnsmic clan|stearnsmic]]+, [[suhajira]]
| [[skwares]], [[stearnsmic clan|stearnsmic]]+, [[suhajira]]
| no-5 [[miracle]], [[radon]]^, [[hemif]]^<ref>^Hemif beats radon in 2.3.7.11, radon beats hemif in 2.3.7.11.13 (in damage not badness).</ref>, [[leapfrog]]
| no-5 [[miracle]], [[radon]]^, [[hemif]]^<ref group="note">^Hemif beats radon in 2.3.7.11, radon beats hemif in 2.3.7.11.13 (in damage not badness).</ref>, [[leapfrog]]
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! 2 . 3 . 7 . other n
! 2.3.7.other n
| [[baladic]], [[oceanfront]], no-5 [[negra]]
| [[baladic]], [[oceanfront]], no-5 [[negra]]
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| [[slendric]]+
| [[slendric]]+
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! 2 . 3 . 11 <br>and its extensions
! 2.3.11 <br />and its extensions
| [[Rastmic_clan#Neutral|neutral]] (2.3.11 [[rastmic]]), [[namo]], [[paralimmal]], [[io]]
| [[Rastmic_clan#Neutral|neutral]] (2.3.11 [[rastmic]]), [[namo]], [[paralimmal]], [[io]]
| [[tribilo]] (2.3.11 [[nexus]]), [[huxley]]
| [[tribilo]] (2.3.11 [[nexus]]), [[huxley]]
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! 2 . 3 . other n
! 2.3.other n
| [[barbados]], [[boethian]], [[semitonic]], [[superflat]], [[hydrothermal]]
| [[barbados]], [[boethian]], [[semitonic]], [[superflat]], [[hydrothermal]]
| [[threedic]], [[pepperoni]]
| [[threedic]], [[pepperoni]]
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! 2 . 5 . 7 <br>and its extensions
! 2.5.7 <br />and its extensions
| [[didacus]], [[frostburn]], no-3 [[oodako]]
| [[didacus]], [[frostburn]], no-3 [[oodako]]
| [[rainy]], [[mercy]], [[huntington]], [[llywelyn]], [[baldy]]
| [[rainy]], [[mercy]], [[huntington]], [[llywelyn]], [[baldy]]
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! 2 . 5 . other n
! 2.5.other n
| [[insect]], [[sulis]], [[wizz]], [[vengeance]], [[marveltri]], [[superquintal]], [[movila]]
| [[insect]], [[sulis]], [[wizz]], [[vengeance]], [[marveltri]], [[superquintal]], [[movila]]
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! 2 . 7 <br>and its extensions
! 2.7 <br />and its extensions
| [[orgone]], [[shipwreck]], [[stacks]], [[ultrakleismic]], [[machine]]
| [[orgone]], [[shipwreck]], [[stacks]], [[ultrakleismic]], [[machine]]
| [[counterultrakleismic]], [[mechanism]], [[mabon]]
| [[counterultrakleismic]], [[mechanism]], [[mabon]]
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| [[machine|apparatus]]
| [[machine|apparatus]]
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! 3 . 5 . 7 <br>and its extensions
! 3.5.7 <br />and its extensions
| [[canopus]], [[BPS]], [[sirius]], [[arcturus]], [[dubhe]], [[Catalog of 3.5.7 subgroup rank two temperaments|vega]]  
| [[canopus]], [[BPS]], [[sirius]], [[arcturus]], [[dubhe]], [[Catalog of 3.5.7 subgroup rank two temperaments|vega]]  
| [[izar]], [[mintra]]
| [[izar]], [[mintra]]
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| [[erigone]]
| [[erigone]]
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! 3 . 5 . other n
! 3.5.other n
| [[aldebaran]], [[deneb]], [[polaris]]
| [[aldebaran]], [[deneb]], [[polaris]]
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| [[alnilam]], [[fomalhaut]]
| [[alnilam]], [[fomalhaut]]
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! 3 . 7 <br>and its extensions
! 3.7 <br />and its extensions
| [[mintaka]] (w.o. 13), [[keladic]]
| [[mintaka]] (w.o. 13), [[keladic]]
| [[mebsuta]], [[minalzidar]]
| [[mebsuta]], [[minalzidar]]
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! 4 . n <br>and its extensions
! 4.n <br />and its extensions
| [[meanquad]], [[tetrahanson]], [[tetrameantone]], [[quarchy]], [[tetrominant]]
| [[meanquad]], [[tetrahanson]], [[tetrameantone]], [[quarchy]], [[tetrominant]]
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! 5 . n <br>and its extensions
! 5.n <br />and its extensions
| [[antipyth]], [[juggernaut]]
| [[antipyth]], [[juggernaut]]
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! >90 notes
! >90 notes
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! 5-limit <br>(2 . 3 . 5)
! 5-limit <br />(2.3.5)
| [[ennealimmal]], [[qintosec]], [[counterhanson]], [[undim]]
| [[ennealimmal]], [[qintosec]], [[counterhanson]], [[undim]]
| [[tricot]], [[pental]]
| [[tricot]], [[pental]]
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! 7-limit <br>(2 . 3 . 5 . 7)
! 7-limit <br />(2.3.5.7)
| [[ennealimmal]], [[tertiaseptal]], [[hemififths]], [[quadritikleismic]], [[grendel]], [[unidec]]
| [[ennealimmal]], [[tertiaseptal]], [[hemififths]], [[quadritikleismic]], [[grendel]], [[unidec]]
| [[hendecatonic]]
| [[hendecatonic]]
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| [[supermajor]], [[enneadecal]], [[term]]
| [[supermajor]], [[enneadecal]], [[term]]
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|-
! 11-limit <br>(2 . 3 . 5 . 7 . 11)
! 11-limit <br />(2.3.5.7.11)
| [[unidec]], [[tritikleismic]], [[hemithirds]], [[wizard]], [[diaschismic]]
| [[unidec]], [[tritikleismic]], [[hemithirds]], [[wizard]], [[diaschismic]]
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| [[hemienneadecal]], [[hemiennealimmal]], [[abigail]], [[hemitert]], [[newt]], [[decoid]], [[vishnu]]
| [[hemienneadecal]], [[hemiennealimmal]], [[abigail]], [[hemitert]], [[newt]], [[decoid]], [[vishnu]]
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! 13-limit <br>(2 . 3 . 5 . 7 . 11 . 13)
! 13-limit <br />(2.3.5.7.11.13)
| [[hemififths]], [[orwell]], [[magic]]
| [[hemififths]], [[orwell]], [[magic]]
| [[mystery]], [[myna]], [[sensus]], [[meanpop]]
| [[mystery]], [[myna]], [[sensus]], [[meanpop]]
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| [[abigail]], [[satin]], [[trinity]], [[newt]], [[acyuta]], [[deca]], [[quasiorwell]], [[decoid]], [[vulture]], [[hemiennealimmal]], [[Horwell_temperaments#Emkay|emkay]], [[countercata]]
| [[abigail]], [[satin]], [[trinity]], [[newt]], [[acyuta]], [[deca]], [[quasiorwell]], [[decoid]], [[vulture]], [[hemiennealimmal]], [[Horwell_temperaments#Emkay|emkay]], [[countercata]]
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! 17-limit <br>(2 . 3 . 5 . 7 . 11 . 13 . 17)
! 17-limit <br />(2.3.5.7.11.13.17)
| [[leapday]], [[superkleismic]]+, [[meantonic]], [[huygens]]
| [[leapday]], [[superkleismic]]+, [[meantonic]], [[huygens]]
| [[hendec]], [[marvolo]], [[diaschismic]], [[sensus]], [[andromeda]], [[modus]]
| [[hendec]], [[marvolo]], [[diaschismic]], [[sensus]], [[andromeda]], [[modus]]
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| [[satin]], [[trinity]], [[octoid]], [[quincy]], [[mirkat]], [[ekadash]]+, [[quadritikleismic]], [[neominor]]+, [[ennealimnic]], [[sqrtphi]]
| [[satin]], [[trinity]], [[octoid]], [[quincy]], [[mirkat]], [[ekadash]]+, [[quadritikleismic]], [[neominor]]+, [[ennealimnic]], [[sqrtphi]]
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! 19-limit <br>(2 . 3 . 5 . 7 . 11 . 13 . 17 . 19)
! 19-limit <br />(2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19)
| [[octacot]], [[andromeda]], [[meantonic]], [[huygens]]
| [[octacot]], [[andromeda]], [[meantonic]], [[huygens]]
| [[hendec]]+, [[sensus]]+, [[crepuscular]]+, [[hitchcock]], [[modus]]
| [[hendec]]+, [[sensus]]+, [[crepuscular]]+, [[hitchcock]], [[modus]]
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| [[satin]], [[trinity]], [[sqrtphi]]+, [[gizzard]]+, [[ketchup]], [[semisept]], [[cassandric]]
| [[satin]], [[trinity]], [[sqrtphi]]+, [[gizzard]]+, [[ketchup]], [[semisept]], [[cassandric]]
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! 2 . 3 . 5 . 7 . other n
! 2.3.5.7.other n
| no-11 [[harry]], [[unicorn]]
| no-11 [[harry]], [[unicorn]]
| no-11 [[buzzard]], no-11 [[orwell]]
| no-11 [[buzzard]], no-11 [[orwell]]
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| no-11 [[ennealimmal]], no-11 [[decoid]], no-11 [[ennealimnic]], no-11 [[quadritikleismic]]
| no-11 [[ennealimmal]], no-11 [[decoid]], no-11 [[ennealimnic]], no-11 [[quadritikleismic]]
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! 2 . 3 . 5 . 11 <br>and its extensions
! 2.3.5.11 <br />and its extensions
| no-7 [[qintosec]], [[pental]]+, no-7 [[maquila]], [[sensible]], [[ampersand]]+
| no-7 [[qintosec]], [[pental]]+, no-7 [[maquila]], [[sensible]], [[ampersand]]+
| [[twentcufo]], no-7 [[emka]], no-7 [[gwazy]], no-7 [[rodan]], no-7 [[cataclysmic]], no-7 [[sfourth]]
| [[twentcufo]], no-7 [[emka]], no-7 [[gwazy]], no-7 [[rodan]], no-7 [[cataclysmic]], no-7 [[sfourth]]
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| no-7 [[hemienneadecal]], no-7 [[vulture]]
| no-7 [[hemienneadecal]], no-7 [[vulture]]
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! 2 . 3 . 5 . other n
! 2.3.5.other n
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! 2 . 3 . 7
! 2.3.7
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! 2 . 3 . 7 . 11 <br>and its extensions
! 2.3.7.11 <br />and its extensions
| no-5 [[quanic]]
| no-5 [[quanic]]
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! 2 . 3 . 7 . other n
! 2.3.7.other n
| [[hypnosis]]
| [[hypnosis]]
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! 2 . 3 . 11 <br>and its extensions
! 2.3.11 <br />and its extensions
| rank-2 [[pythrabian]]
| rank-2 [[pythrabian]]
| rank-2 [[frameshift]]
| rank-2 [[frameshift]]
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! 2 . 3 . other n
! 2.3.other n
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! 2 . 5 . 7 <br>and its extensions
! 2.5.7 <br />and its extensions
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| [[Subgroup temperaments#Daemotertiaschis|daemotertiaschis]]
| [[Subgroup temperaments#Daemotertiaschis|daemotertiaschis]]
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! 2 . 5 . other n
! 2.5.other n
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! 2 . 7 <br>and its extensions
! 2.7 <br />and its extensions
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! 3 . 5 . 7 <br>and its extensions
! 3.5.7 <br />and its extensions
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! 3 . 5 . other n
! 3.5.other n
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! 3 . 7 <br>and its extensions
! 3.7 <br />and its extensions
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! 4 . n <br>and its extensions
! 4.n <br />and its extensions
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! 5 . n <br>and its extensions
! 5.n <br />and its extensions
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== Notes ==
== Notes ==
<references group="note" />


[[Category:Lists of temperaments]]
[[Category:Lists of temperaments]]