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don't think there's real sense in including L17 extensions since they are so inherently L19
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In the full no-3's [[19-limit]], this temperament is a structure common to quite a few temperaments. It is a rank-2 version of [[orion]] with a mapping for primes 11 and 13. It is a no-3's version of 19-limit [[grosstone]] which can be seen as an extension of [[undecimal meantone]] according to the "mediant-tone" logic of this temperament, and which as aforementioned effectively doubles the complexity of the temperament as a result of finding the generator of [[~]][[19/17]][[~]][[28/25]] as ([[~]][[3/2]])<sup>2</sup>/[[2/1|2]]. It does not work so well as an extension for [[hemiwur]] to the full 19-limit, but if you want to try anyway (at the cost of primes 17 and 19), a notable patent-val tuning is [[37edo]], which finds prime 3 through the [[würschmidt]] mapping so that [[6/1]] is found at 16 generators.
In the full no-3's [[19-limit]], this temperament is a structure common to quite a few temperaments. It is a rank-2 version of [[orion]] with a mapping for primes 11 and 13. It is a no-3's version of 19-limit [[grosstone]] which can be seen as an extension of [[undecimal meantone]] according to the "mediant-tone" logic of this temperament, and which as aforementioned effectively doubles the complexity of the temperament as a result of finding the generator of [[~]][[19/17]][[~]][[28/25]] as ([[~]][[3/2]])<sup>2</sup>/[[2/1|2]]. It does not work so well as an extension for [[hemiwur]] to the full 19-limit, but if you want to try anyway (at the cost of primes 17 and 19), a notable patent-val tuning is [[37edo]], which finds prime 3 through the [[würschmidt]] mapping so that [[6/1]] is found at 16 generators.


Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: [[176/175]], [[640/637]], [[221/220]], [[1375/1372]]
Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -3 -7 13 -18 | 0 2 5 9 -8 19 }}
: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~56/25
Optimal tuning (CWE): ~2 = 1\1, ~28/25 = 194.887
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 6h, 31gh, 37, 80, 117d }}
Badness (Dirichlet): 0.612
===== 2.5.7.11.13.17.19 subgroup =====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17.19
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17.19


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Optimal tuning (CWE): ~2 = 1\1, ~19/17 = 194.927
Optimal tuning (CWE): ~2 = 1\1, ~19/17 = 194.927


Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 6h, 31gh, 37, 80 }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 6h, 31gh, 37, 80, 117d* }}
* 117d only appears without prime 19


Badness (Dirichlet): 0.618
Badness (Dirichlet): 0.618
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Roulette is an alternative no-threes 19-limit extension of tridecimal didacus to mediantone (the two mappings converging at [[37edo]]), equating (8/7)<sup>2</sup> to [[17/13]] in addition to 13/10, tempering out [[170/169]] and [[833/832]]; in doing so, it also tempers out the micro-comma [[2000033/2000000]] so that ([[50/49]])<sup>3</sup> is equated to [[17/16]]. The generator is then equated to 19/17 in the same way as in mediantone.
Roulette is an alternative no-threes 19-limit extension of tridecimal didacus to mediantone (the two mappings converging at [[37edo]]), equating (8/7)<sup>2</sup> to [[17/13]] in addition to 13/10, tempering out [[170/169]] and [[833/832]]; in doing so, it also tempers out the micro-comma [[2000033/2000000]] so that ([[50/49]])<sup>3</sup> is equated to [[17/16]]. The generator is then equated to 19/17 in the same way as in mediantone.


Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: [[170/169]], [[176/175]], [[640/637]], [[1375/1372]]
Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 2 2 5 7 | 0 2 5 9 -8 -18 }}
: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~28/25
Optimal tuning (CWE): ~2 = 1\1, ~28/25 = 194.285
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 6g, ... 31, 37, 68, 105 }}
Badness (Dirichlet): 0.685
===== 2.5.7.11.13.17.19 subgroup =====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17.19
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17.19