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The '''marvel family''' ~~is the set~~ of temperaments ~~that temper~~ out the [[7-limit]] marvel comma ([[225/224]] = {{monzo| -5 2 2 -1 }}) which is also known as ''septimal kleisma''. These temperaments hence equate [[16/15]] and [[15/14]], or equivalently they equate two [[5/4]]'s and one [[14/9]]. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common ~~edos~~ and rank-2 ~~temperaments~~.

The '''marvel family''' of [[rank-3 temperament|rank-3]] [[regular temperament|temperaments]] tempers out the [[7-limit]] marvel comma, [[225/224]] = {{monzo| -5 2 2 -1 }}, which is also known as ''septimal kleisma''. These temperaments hence equate [[16/15]] and [[15/14]], or equivalently they equate two [[5/4]]'s and one [[14/9]]. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common [[equal temperament|equal]] and [[rank-2 temperament]]s.

The marvel comma can also be viewed as a comma of the 2.9.25.7 subgroup. Hence it is tempered out by any subset edos of marvel-supporting edos that have this subgroup, such as [[11edo]] and [[17edo]] which are subsets of [[22edo]] and [[34edo]] (when using the ~~34b~~ val) which temper out the marvel comma.

The marvel comma can also be viewed as a comma of the 2.9.25.7 [[subgroup]]. Hence it is tempered out by any subset edos of marvel-supporting edos that have this subgroup, such as [[11edo]] and [[17edo]] which are subsets of [[22edo]] and [[34edo]] (when using the 34d val) which temper out the marvel comma.

== Marvel ==

The head of the marvel family is marvel, which tempers out [[225/224]]. Marvel has a [[~~Normal~~ lists|normal list ~~basis~~]] of [2, 3, 5]; hence a [[5-limit]] scale can be converted to marvel simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent marvel tuning, is given by [[197edo]].

The head of the marvel family is marvel, which tempers out [[225/224]]. Marvel has a [[normal lists|normal generator list]] of [2, 3, 5]; hence a [[5-limit]] scale can be converted to marvel simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent marvel tuning, is given by [[197edo]].

Little is gained in tuning accuracy by not tempering out 4375/4374 as well as 225/224, leading to [[catakleismic ~~temperament~~]]. Another temperament which does little damage to tuning accuracy is [[compton ~~temperament~~]], for which [[240edo]] may be used. See [[marvel temperaments]] for some other rank-2 temperaments.

Little is gained in tuning accuracy by not tempering out 4375/4374 as well as 225/224, leading to [[catakleismic]], with which it shares the [[optimal patent val]]. Another temperament which does little damage to tuning accuracy is [[compton]], for which [[240edo]] may be used. See [[marvel temperaments]] for some other rank-2 temperaments.

[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7

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[[Complexity spectrum]]: 4/3, 5/4, 7/5, 7/6, 8/7, 6/5, 9/8, 9/7, 10/9

~~[[Associated temperament]]: [[catakleismic]]~~

Scales: [[marvel9]], [[marvel10]], [[marvel11]], [[marvel12]], [[marvel19]], [[marvel22]], [[pump12_1]], [[pump12_2]], [[pump13]], [[pump14]], [[pump15]], [[pump16]], [[pump17]], [[pump18]]

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-The '''marvel family''' is the set of temperaments that temper out the [[7-limit]] marvel comma ([[225/224]] = {{monzo| -5 2 2 -1 }}) which is also known as ''septimal kleisma''. These temperaments hence equate [[16/15]] and [[15/14]], or equivalently they equate two [[5/4]]'s and one [[14/9]]. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common edos and rank-2 temperaments.
+The '''marvel family''' of [[rank-3 temperament|rank-3]] [[regular temperament|temperaments]] tempers out the [[7-limit]] marvel comma, [[225/224]] = {{monzo| -5 2 2 -1 }}, which is also known as ''septimal kleisma''. These temperaments hence equate [[16/15]] and [[15/14]], or equivalently they equate two [[5/4]]'s and one [[14/9]]. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common [[equal temperament|equal]] and [[rank-2 temperament]]s.
-The marvel comma can also be viewed as a comma of the 2.9.25.7 subgroup. Hence it is tempered out by any subset edos of marvel-supporting edos that have this subgroup, such as [[11edo]] and [[17edo]] which are subsets of [[22edo]] and [[34edo]] (when using the 34b val) which temper out the marvel comma.
+The marvel comma can also be viewed as a comma of the 2.9.25.7 [[subgroup]]. Hence it is tempered out by any subset edos of marvel-supporting edos that have this subgroup, such as [[11edo]] and [[17edo]] which are subsets of [[22edo]] and [[34edo]] (when using the 34d val) which temper out the marvel comma.
 == Marvel ==
 {{Main| Marvel }}
-The head of the marvel family is marvel, which tempers out [[225/224]]. Marvel has a [[Normal lists|normal list basis]] of [2, 3, 5]; hence a [[5-limit]] scale can be converted to marvel simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent marvel tuning, is given by [[197edo]].
+The head of the marvel family is marvel, which tempers out [[225/224]]. Marvel has a [[normal lists|normal generator list]] of [2, 3, 5]; hence a [[5-limit]] scale can be converted to marvel simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent marvel tuning, is given by [[197edo]].
-Little is gained in tuning accuracy by not tempering out 4375/4374 as well as 225/224, leading to [[catakleismic temperament]]. Another temperament which does little damage to tuning accuracy is [[compton temperament]], for which [[240edo]] may be used. See [[marvel temperaments]] for some other rank-2 temperaments.
+Little is gained in tuning accuracy by not tempering out 4375/4374 as well as 225/224, leading to [[catakleismic]], with which it shares the [[optimal patent val]]. Another temperament which does little damage to tuning accuracy is [[compton]], for which [[240edo]] may be used. See [[marvel temperaments]] for some other rank-2 temperaments.
 [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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 [[Complexity spectrum]]: 4/3, 5/4, 7/5, 7/6, 8/7, 6/5, 9/8, 9/7, 10/9
-[[Associated temperament]]: [[catakleismic]]
 Scales: [[marvel9]], [[marvel10]], [[marvel11]], [[marvel12]], [[marvel19]], [[marvel22]], [[pump12_1]], [[pump12_2]], [[pump13]], [[pump14]], [[pump15]], [[pump16]], [[pump17]], [[pump18]]