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Valentine tempers out [[1029/1024]] and [[6144/6125]] as well as 126/125, so it also fits under the heading of the gamelismic clan. It has a generator of 21/20, which can be stripped of its 2 and taken as 3×7/5. In this respect it resembles miracle, with a generator of 3×5/7, and casablanca, with a generator of 5×7/3. These three generators are the simplest in terms of the relationship of tetrads in the [[The Seven Limit Symmetrical Lattices|lattice of 7-limit tetrads]]. Valentine can also be described as the 31 & 46 temperament, and [[77edo]], [[108edo]] or [[185edo]] make for excellent tunings, which also happen to be excellent tunings for starling temperament, the 126/125 planar temperament. Hence 7-limit valentine can be used whenever starling is wanted, with the extra tempering out of 1029/1024 having no discernible effect on tuning accuracy. Another tuning for valentine uses (3/2)<sup>1/9</sup> as a generator, giving pure 3/2 fifths. Valentine extends naturally to the 11-limit as {{multival| 9 5 -3 7 … }}, tempering out 121/120 and 441/440; 46edo has a valentine generator 3\46 which is only 0.0117 cents sharp of the minimax generator, (11/7)<sup>1/10</sup>.

Valentine is very closely related to [[Carlos Alpha]], the rank-1 non-octave temperament of Wendy Carlos, as the generator chain of valentine is the same thing as Carlos Alpha. Indeed, the way Carlos uses Alpha in ''Beauty in the Beast'' suggests that she really intended Alpha to be the same thing as valentine, and that it is misdescribed as a rank-1 temperament. Carlos tells us that "[t]he melodic motions of Alpha are amazingly exotic and fresh, like you've never heard before", and since Alpha lives inside valentine this comment carries over and applies to it if you stick close melodically to generator steps, which is almost impossible not to do since the generator step is so small. ~~MOS~~ of 15, 16, 31 and 46 notes are available to explore these exotic and fresh melodies, or the less exotic ones you might cook up otherwise.

Valentine is very closely related to [[Carlos Alpha]], the rank-1 non-octave temperament of Wendy Carlos, as the generator chain of valentine is the same thing as Carlos Alpha. Indeed, the way Carlos uses Alpha in ''Beauty in the Beast'' suggests that she really intended Alpha to be the same thing as valentine, and that it is misdescribed as a rank-1 temperament. Carlos tells us that "[t]he melodic motions of Alpha are amazingly exotic and fresh, like you've never heard before", and since Alpha lives inside valentine this comment carries over and applies to it if you stick close melodically to generator steps, which is almost impossible not to do since the generator step is so small. Mosses of 15, 16, 31 and 46 notes are available to explore these exotic and fresh melodies, or the less exotic ones you might cook up otherwise.

[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5

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: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Nusecond]].''

Nusecond tempers out 2430/2401 and 16875/16807 in addition to 126/125, and may be described as 31 & 70. It has a neutral second generator of 49/45, two of which make up a 6/5 minor third since 2430/2401 is tempered out. [[31edo]] can be used as a tuning, or [[132edo]] with a val which is the sum of the [[patent val]]s for 31 and 101. Because 49/45 is flat of 12/11 by only 540/539, nusecond is more naturally thought of as an 11-limit temperament with a combined 12/11 and 11/10 as a generator, tempering out 99/98, 121/120 and 540/539. Because of all the neutral seconds, an exotic Middle Eastern sound comes naturally to nusecond. ~~MOS~~ of 15, 23, or 31 notes are enough to give fuller effect to the harmony, but the 8-note ~~MOS~~ might also be considered from the melodic point of view.

Nusecond tempers out 2430/2401 and 16875/16807 in addition to 126/125, and may be described as 31 & 70. It has a neutral second generator of 49/45, two of which make up a 6/5 minor third since 2430/2401 is tempered out. [[31edo]] can be used as a tuning, or [[132edo]] with a val which is the sum of the [[patent val]]s for 31 and 101. Because 49/45 is flat of 12/11 by only 540/539, nusecond is more naturally thought of as an 11-limit temperament with a combined 12/11 and 11/10 as a generator, tempering out 99/98, 121/120 and 540/539. Because of all the neutral seconds, an exotic Middle Eastern sound comes naturally to nusecond. Mosses of 15, 23, or 31 notes are enough to give fuller effect to the harmony, but the 8-note mos might also be considered from the melodic point of view.

[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7

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 Valentine tempers out [[1029/1024]] and [[6144/6125]] as well as 126/125, so it also fits under the heading of the gamelismic clan. It has a generator of 21/20, which can be stripped of its 2 and taken as 3×7/5. In this respect it resembles miracle, with a generator of 3×5/7, and casablanca, with a generator of 5×7/3. These three generators are the simplest in terms of the relationship of tetrads in the [[The Seven Limit Symmetrical Lattices|lattice of 7-limit tetrads]]. Valentine can also be described as the 31 &amp; 46 temperament, and [[77edo]], [[108edo]] or [[185edo]] make for excellent tunings, which also happen to be excellent tunings for starling temperament, the 126/125 planar temperament. Hence 7-limit valentine can be used whenever starling is wanted, with the extra tempering out of 1029/1024 having no discernible effect on tuning accuracy. Another tuning for valentine uses (3/2)<sup>1/9</sup> as a generator, giving pure 3/2 fifths. Valentine extends naturally to the 11-limit as {{multival| 9 5 -3 7 … }}, tempering out 121/120 and 441/440; 46edo has a valentine generator 3\46 which is only 0.0117 cents sharp of the minimax generator, (11/7)<sup>1/10</sup>.
-Valentine is very closely related to [[Carlos Alpha]], the rank-1 non-octave temperament of Wendy Carlos, as the generator chain of valentine is the same thing as Carlos Alpha. Indeed, the way Carlos uses Alpha in ''Beauty in the Beast'' suggests that she really intended Alpha to be the same thing as valentine, and that it is misdescribed as a rank-1 temperament. Carlos tells us that "[t]he melodic motions of Alpha are amazingly exotic and fresh, like you've never heard before", and since Alpha lives inside valentine this comment carries over and applies to it if you stick close melodically to generator steps, which is almost impossible not to do since the generator step is so small. MOS of 15, 16, 31 and 46 notes are available to explore these exotic and fresh melodies, or the less exotic ones you might cook up otherwise.
+Valentine is very closely related to [[Carlos Alpha]], the rank-1 non-octave temperament of Wendy Carlos, as the generator chain of valentine is the same thing as Carlos Alpha. Indeed, the way Carlos uses Alpha in ''Beauty in the Beast'' suggests that she really intended Alpha to be the same thing as valentine, and that it is misdescribed as a rank-1 temperament. Carlos tells us that "[t]he melodic motions of Alpha are amazingly exotic and fresh, like you've never heard before", and since Alpha lives inside valentine this comment carries over and applies to it if you stick close melodically to generator steps, which is almost impossible not to do since the generator step is so small. Mosses of 15, 16, 31 and 46 notes are available to explore these exotic and fresh melodies, or the less exotic ones you might cook up otherwise.
 [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
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 : ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Nusecond]].''
-Nusecond tempers out 2430/2401 and 16875/16807 in addition to 126/125, and may be described as 31 &amp; 70. It has a neutral second generator of 49/45, two of which make up a 6/5 minor third since 2430/2401 is tempered out. [[31edo]] can be used as a tuning, or [[132edo]] with a val which is the sum of the [[patent val]]s for 31 and 101. Because 49/45 is flat of 12/11 by only 540/539, nusecond is more naturally thought of as an 11-limit temperament with a combined 12/11 and 11/10 as a generator, tempering out 99/98, 121/120 and 540/539. Because of all the neutral seconds, an exotic Middle Eastern sound comes naturally to nusecond. MOS of 15, 23, or 31 notes are enough to give fuller effect to the harmony, but the 8-note MOS might also be considered from the melodic point of view.
+Nusecond tempers out 2430/2401 and 16875/16807 in addition to 126/125, and may be described as 31 &amp; 70. It has a neutral second generator of 49/45, two of which make up a 6/5 minor third since 2430/2401 is tempered out. [[31edo]] can be used as a tuning, or [[132edo]] with a val which is the sum of the [[patent val]]s for 31 and 101. Because 49/45 is flat of 12/11 by only 540/539, nusecond is more naturally thought of as an 11-limit temperament with a combined 12/11 and 11/10 as a generator, tempering out 99/98, 121/120 and 540/539. Because of all the neutral seconds, an exotic Middle Eastern sound comes naturally to nusecond. Mosses of 15, 23, or 31 notes are enough to give fuller effect to the harmony, but the 8-note mos might also be considered from the melodic point of view.
 [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7