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== Theory ==
== Theory ==
94edo is a remarkable all-around utility tuning system, good from low [[prime limit]] to very high prime limit situations. It is the first edo to be [[consistent]] through the [[23-odd-limit]], and no other edo is so consistent until [[282edo|282]] and [[311edo|311]] make their appearance.
94edo is a remarkable well-rounded tuning system, good from low [[prime limit]] to very high prime limit situations. It is the first edo to be [[consistent]] through the [[23-odd-limit]], and no other edo is so consistent until [[282edo|282]] and [[311edo|311]] make their appearance.


Its step size is close to that of [[144/143]], which is consistently represented in this tuning system.
Its step size is close to that of [[144/143]], which is consistently represented in this tuning system.


=== As a tuning of other temperaments ===
=== As a tuning of other temperaments ===
94edo can also be thought of as the "sum" of [[41edo]] and [[53edo]] {{nowrap|(41 + 53 {{=}} 94)}}, both of which are not only known for their approximation of [[Pythagorean tuning]], but also support a variety of [[Schismatic family|schismatic temperaments]], like [[Schismatic family#Cassandra|cassandra]] (which is itself a variety of [[Schismatic family#Garibaldi|garibaldi]]), tempering out [[32805/32768]], [[225/224]], and [[385/384]], and tempering together the [[81/80|syntonic]], [[Septimal comma|septimal]], and [[pythagorean comma]] into the same interval. Therefore, 94edo's fifth is the [[mediant]] of these two edos' fifths; it is ever so slightly sharp of just and less accurate than 53edo's fifth, but more accurate than 41edo's, and acts as a generator for a highly optimized and high-prime-limit form of cassandra. Few, if any, edos that support schismatic by [[Val|patent val]] have at least as high of a consistency limit as 94edo while also having a fifth that can stack to reach any interval in it. Other non-garibaldi schismatic notable edos in the patent val are [[118edo|118]], [[159edo|159]], [[171edo|171]], [[224edo|224]], and [[460edo|460]].
94edo is the sum of [[41edo]] and [[53edo]], both of which are not only known for their approximation of [[Pythagorean tuning]], but also support a variety of [[Schismatic family|schismatic temperaments]], like [[Schismatic family#Cassandra|cassandra]] (which is itself a variety of [[Schismatic family#Garibaldi|garibaldi]]), tempering out [[32805/32768]], [[225/224]], and [[385/384]], and tempering together the [[81/80|syntonic]], [[Septimal comma|septimal]], and [[pythagorean comma]] into the same interval.


The list of 23-limit commas it tempers out is huge, and in lower prime limits, it also tempers out [[3125/3087]], [[4000/3969]], [[5120/5103]] and [[540/539]]. It provides the [[optimal patent val]] for gassormic, the rank-5 temperament tempering out [[275/273]] (despite one edostep being very close in size to this comma), and for a number of other temperaments, such as [[isis]].
94edo's fifth is the [[mediant]] of these two edos' fifths; it is ever so slightly sharp of just and only a hair less accurate than 53edo's fifth, but more accurate than 41edo's, and acts as a generator for a highly optimized and high-prime-limit form of cassandra. Few, if any, edos that support schismatic by [[Val|patent val]] have at least as high of a consistency limit as 94edo while also having a fifth that can stack to reach any interval in it. Other non-garibaldi schismatic notable edos in the patent val are [[118edo|118]], [[159edo|159]], [[171edo|171]], [[224edo|224]], and [[460edo|460]].
 
The list of 23-limit commas it tempers out is huge (see below), and in lower prime limits, it also tempers out [[3125/3087]], [[4000/3969]], [[5120/5103]] and [[540/539]]. It provides the [[optimal patent val]] for gassormic, the rank-5 temperament tempering out [[275/273]] (despite one edostep being very close in size to this comma), and for a number of other temperaments, such as [[isis]].


94edo is an excellent edo for [[Carlos Beta]] scale, since the difference between 1 step of Carlos Beta and 5 steps of 94edo is only 0.00314534 cents.
94edo is an excellent edo for [[Carlos Beta]] scale, since the difference between 1 step of Carlos Beta and 5 steps of 94edo is only 0.00314534 cents.
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! 13-limit
! 13-limit
! 23-limit
! 23-limit
![[Ups and downs notation|Ups and downs]]
! [[Ups and downs notation|Ups and downs]]
! Short-form [[SKULO interval names#WOFED interval names|WOFED]]
! Short-form [[SKULO interval names#WOFED interval names|WOFED]]
! Long-form WOFED
! Long-form WOFED
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=== Sagittal ===
=== Sagittal ===
94edo can be notated in [[Sagittal notation|Sagittal]] using the [[Sagittal_notation#Athenian_extension_single-shaft|Athenian extension]], with the apotome equal to 9 edosteps and the limma to 7 edosteps.  
94edo can be notated in [[Sagittal notation|Sagittal]] using the [[Sagittal_notation#Athenian|Athenian set]], with the apotome equal to 9 edosteps and the limma to 7 edosteps.  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
! colspan="2" |Steps
! colspan="2" |Steps
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| rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal|(|(}}</big>
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal|(|(}}</big>
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal|/|\}}</big>
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal|/|\}}</big>
|<small>{{sagittal|#}}{{sagittal|\!/}}</small>
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal|(|)}}</big>
|<small>{{sagittal|#}}{{sagittal|(!(}}</small>
|{{sagittal|(!(}}{{sagittal|#}}
|<small>{{sagittal|#}}{{sagittal|\!}}</small>
|{{sagittal|\!}}{{sagittal|#}}
|<small>{{sagittal|#}}{{sagittal|~!(}}</small>
|{{sagittal|~!(}}{{sagittal|#}}
|<small>{{sagittal|#}}</small>
|{{sagittal|#}}
|-
|-
!Revo
!Revo
|<big>{{sagittal|(|)}}</big>
|<big>{{sagittal|~||(}}</big>
|<big>{{sagittal|~||(}}</big>
|<big>{{sagittal|||\}}</big>
|<big>{{sagittal|||\}}</big>
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|-
|-
| 2.3
| 2.3
| {{monzo| 149 -94 }}
| {{Monzo| 149 -94 }}
| {{mapping| 94 149 }}
| {{Mapping| 94 149 }}
| −0.054
| −0.054
| 0.054
| 0.054
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| 2.3.5
| 2.3.5
| 32805/32768, 9765625/9565938
| 32805/32768, 9765625/9565938
| {{mapping| 94 149 218 }}
| {{Mapping| 94 149 218 }}
| +0.442
| +0.442
| 0.704
| 0.704
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| 2.3.5.7
| 2.3.5.7
| 225/224, 3125/3087, 118098/117649
| 225/224, 3125/3087, 118098/117649
| {{mapping| 94 149 218 264 }}
| {{Mapping| 94 149 218 264 }}
| +0.208
| +0.208
| 0.732
| 0.732
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| 2.3.5.7.11
| 2.3.5.7.11
| 225/224, 385/384, 1331/1323, 2200/2187
| 225/224, 385/384, 1331/1323, 2200/2187
| {{mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 }}
| {{Mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 }}
| +0.304
| +0.304
| 0.683
| 0.683
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| 2.3.5.7.11.13
| 2.3.5.7.11.13
| 225/224, 275/273, 325/324, 385/384, 1331/1323
| 225/224, 275/273, 325/324, 385/384, 1331/1323
| {{mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 348 }}
| {{Mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 348 }}
| +0.162
| +0.162
| 0.699
| 0.699
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| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
| 170/169, 225/224, 275/273, 289/288, 325/324, 385/384
| 170/169, 225/224, 275/273, 289/288, 325/324, 385/384
| {{mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 348 384 }}
| {{Mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 348 384 }}
| +0.238
| +0.238
| 0.674
| 0.674
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| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
| 170/169, 190/189, 225/224, 275/273, 289/288, 325/324, 385/384
| 170/169, 190/189, 225/224, 275/273, 289/288, 325/324, 385/384
| {{mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 348 384 399 }}
| {{Mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 348 384 399 }}
| +0.323
| +0.323
| 0.669
| 0.669
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| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
| 170/169, 190/189, 209/208, 225/224, 275/273, 289/288, 300/299, 323/322
| 170/169, 190/189, 209/208, 225/224, 275/273, 289/288, 300/299, 323/322
| {{mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 348 384 399 425 }}
| {{Mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 348 384 399 425 }}
| +0.354
| +0.354
| 0.637
| 0.637
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| 25/24
| 25/24
| [[Betic]]
| [[Betic]]
|-
| 1
| 7\94
| 89.36
| 21/20
| [[Slithy]]
|-
|-
| 1
| 1
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| 140.43
| 140.43
| 13/12
| 13/12
| [[Tsaharuk]] / [[quanic]] / [[glacier]]
| [[Tsaharuk]] / [[quanic]]
|-
|-
| 1
| 1
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| 147/128
| 147/128
| [[Septiquarter]]
| [[Septiquarter]]
|-
| 1
| 25\94
| 319.15
| 6/5
| [[Dhaivatic]]
|-
|-
| 1
| 1
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| [[Kleischismic]]
| [[Kleischismic]]
|}
|}
<nowiki/>* [[Normal lists|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[Normal lists|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct
<nowiki/>* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct
 
Below are some 23-limit temperaments supported by 94et. It might be noted that 94, a very good tuning for [[garibaldi temperament]], shows us how to extend it to the 23-limit.
 
* {{nowrap|46 &amp; 94}}
* {{nowrap|68 &amp; 94}}
* {{nowrap|53 &amp; 94}}  (one garibaldi)
* {{nowrap|41 &amp; 94}}  (another garibaldi, only differing in the mappings of 17 and 23)
* {{nowrap|135 &amp; 94}}  (another garibaldi)
* {{nowrap|130 &amp; 94}}  (a pogo extension)
* {{nowrap|58 &amp; 94}}  (a supers extension)
* {{nowrap|50 &amp; 94}}
* {{nowrap|72 &amp; 94}}  (a gizzard extension)
* {{nowrap|80 &amp; 94}}
* 94 solo (a rank one temperament!)


Temperaments to which 94et can be detempered:  
Temperaments to which 94et can be detempered:  
* [[Satin]] ({{nowrap| 94 & 217 }})
* [[Gariwizmic]] ({{nowrap| 94 & 176 }})
* {{nowrap| 94 & 422 }}


* [[Satin]] ({{nowrap|94 & 217}})
=== Commas ===
* [[Gariwizmic]] (94 & 176)
94et [[tempering out|tempers out]] the following [[comma]]s using its 23-limit patent [[val]], {{val| 94 149 218 264 325 348 384 399 425 }}.
* {{nowrap|94 & 422}}  


=== Commas ===
94et [[Tempering out|tempers out]] the following [[Comma|commas]] using its patent [[val]], ⟨94 149 218 264 325 348 384 399 425].
{| class="commatable wikitable center-1 center-2 right-3 center-6"
{| class="commatable wikitable center-1 center-2 right-3 center-6"
![[Harmonic limit|Prime]]
! [[Harmonic limit|Prime<br>limit]]
[[Harmonic limit|limit]]
! [[Ratio]]<ref>Ratios with more than 8 digits are presented by placeholders with informative hints</ref>
![[Ratio]]<ref>Ratios with more than 8 digits are presented by placeholders with informative hints</ref>
! [[Cents]]
![[Cents]]
! [[Monzo]]
![[Monzo]]
! colspan="2" | [[Kite's color notation|Color name]]
! colspan="2" |[[Color name]]
! Name(s)
!Name(s)
|-
|-
|3
| 3
|<abbr title="36893488147419103232/36472996377170786403">(90 digits)</abbr>
| <abbr title="36893488147419103232/36472996377170786403">(90 digits)</abbr>
|16.22
| 16.22
|{{monzo|149 -94}}
| {{Monzo| 149 -94 }}
|Wa-94
| Wa-94
|94-edo
| 94-edo
|[[94-comma]]
| [[94-comma]]
|-
|-
|5
| 5
|[[32805/32768|(10 digits)]]
| [[32805/32768|(10 digits)]]
|1.95
| 1.95
|{{monzo|-15 8 1}}
| {{Monzo| -15 8 1 }}
|Layo
| Layo
|Ly
| Ly
|[[Schisma]]
| [[Schisma]]
|-
|-
|7
| 7
|[[3125/3087]]
| [[3125/3087]]
|21.18
| 21.18
|{{monzo|0 -2 5 -3}}
| {{Monzo| 0 -2 5 -3 }}
|Triru-aquinyo
| Triru-aquinyo
|r<sup>3</sup>y<sup>5</sup>
| r<sup>3</sup>y<sup>5</sup>
|Gariboh comma
| Gariboh comma
|-
|-
|7
| 7
|[[4000/3969]]
| [[4000/3969]]
|13.47
| 13.47
|{{monzo|5 -4 3 -2}}
| {{Monzo| 5 -4 3 -2 }}
|Rurutriyo
| Rurutriyo
|rry<sup>3</sup>
| rry<sup>3</sup>
|Octagar comma
| Octagar comma
|-
|-
|7
| 7
|[[225/224]]
| [[225/224]]
|7.71
| 7.71
|{{monzo|-5 2 2 -1}}
| {{monzo| -5 2 2 -1 }}
|Ruyoyo
| Ruyoyo
|ryy
| ryy
|Marvel comma
| Marvel comma
|-
|-
|7
| 7
|<abbr title="36893488147419103232/36472996377170786403">(12 digits)</abbr>
| <abbr title="36893488147419103232/36472996377170786403">(12 digits)</abbr>
|6.59
| 6.59
|[1 10 0 -6⟩
| {{monzo| 1 10 0 -6 }}
|Latribiru
| Latribiru
|L6r
| L6r
|Stearnsma
| Stearnsma
|-
|-
|7
| 7
|[[5120/5103]]
| [[5120/5103]]
|5.76
| 5.76
|{{monzo|10 -6 1 -1}}
| {{monzo| 10 -6 1 -1 }}
|Saruyo
| Saruyo
|sry
| sry
|Hemifamity comma
| Hemifamity comma
|-
|-
|7
| 7
|[[33554432/33480783|(16 digits)]]
| [[33554432/33480783|(16 digits)]]
|3.80
| 3.80
|{{monzo|25 -14 0 -1}}
| {{Monzo| 25 -14 0 -1 }}
|Sasaru
| Sasaru
|ssr
| ssr
|[[Garischisma]]
| [[Garischisma]]
|-
|-
|11
| 11
|[[385/384]]
| [[385/384]]
|4.50
| 4.50
|{{monzo|-7 -1 1 1 1}}
| {{Monzo| -7 -1 1 1 1 }}
|Lozoyo
| Lozoyo
|1ozg
| 1ozg
|Keenanisma
| Keenanisma
|-
|-
|11
| 11
|[[540/539]]
| [[540/539]]
|3.21
| 3.21
|{{monzo|2 3 1 -2 -1}}
| {{Monzo| 2 3 1 -2 -1 }}
|Lururuyo
| Lururuyo
|1urry
| 1urry
|Swetisma
| Swetisma
|-
|-
|11
| 11
|[[4225/4224]]
| [[9801/9800]]
|0.41
| 0.17
|[-7 -1 2 0 -1 2⟩
| {{Monzo| -3 4 -2 -2 2 }}
|Thotholuyoyo
| Bilorugu
|3oo1uyy
| 1oorrgg-2
|Leprechaun comma
| Kalisma
|-
|-
|11
| 13
|[[9801/9800]]
| [[275/273]]
|0.17
| 12.64
|[-3 4 -2 -2 2⟩
| {{Monzo| 0 -1 2 -1 1 -1 }}
|Bilorugu
| Thuloruyoyo
|1oorrgg-2
| 3u1oryy
|Kalisma
| Gassorma
|-
|-
|13
| 13
|[[275/273]]
| [[640/637]]
|12.64
| 8.13
|{{monzo|0 -1 2 -1 1 -1}}
| {{Monzo| 7 0 1 -2 0 -1 }}
|Thuloruyoyo
| Thururuyo
|3u1oryy
| 3urry
|Gassorma
| Huntma
|-
|-
|13
| 13
|[[640/637]]
| [[1188/1183]]
|8.13
| 7.30
|{{monzo|7 0 1 -2 0 -1}}
| {{Monzo| 2 3 0 -1 1 -2 }}
|Thururuyo
| Thuthuloru
|3urry
| 3uu1or
|Huntma
| Kestrel comma
|-
|-
|13
| 13
|[[1188/1183]]
| [[325/324]]
|7.30
| 5.34
|{{monzo|2 3 0 -1 1 -2}}
| {{Monzo| -2 -4 2 0 0 1 }}
|Thuthuloru
| Thoyoyo
|3uu1or
| 3oyy
|Kestrel comma
| Marveltwin comma
|-
|-
|13
| 13
|[[325/324]]
| [[352/351]]
|5.34
| 4.93
|{{monzo|-2 -4 2 0 0 1}}
| {{Monzo| 5 -3 0 0 1 -1 }}
|Thoyoyo
| Thulo
|3oyy
| 3u1o
|Marveltwin comma
| Major minthma
|-
| 13
| [[847/845]]
| 4.09
| {{Monzo| 0 0 -1 1 2 -2 }}
| Thuthulolozogu
| 3uu1oozg
| Cuthbert comma
|-
|-
|13
| 13
|[[352/351]]
| [[729/728]]
|4.93
| 2.38
|{{monzo|5 -3 0 0 1 -1}}
| {{Monzo| -3 6 0 -1 0 -1 }}
|Thulo
| Lathuru
|3u1o
| L3ur
|Major minthma
| Squbema
|-
|-
|13
| 13
|[[847/845]]
| [[2080/2079]]
|4.09
| 0.83
|{{monzo|0 0 -1 1 2 -2}}
| {{Monzo| 5 -3 1 -1 -1 1 }}
|Thuthulolozogu
| Tholuruyo
|3uu1oozg
| 3o1ury
|Cuthbert comma
| Ibnsinma, sinaisma
|-
|-
|13
| 13
|[[729/728]]
| [[4096/4095]]
|2.38
| 0.42
|{{monzo|-3 6 0 -1 0 -1}}
| {{Monzo| 12 -2 -1 -1 0 -1 }}
|Lathuru
| Sathurugu
|L3ur
| s3urg
|Squbema
| Minisma
|-
|-
|13
| 13
|[[2080/2079]]
| [[4225/4224]]
|0.83
| 0.41
|{{monzo|5 -3 1 -1 -1 1}}
| {{Monzo| -7 -1 2 0 -1 2 }}
|Tholuruyo
| Thotholuyoyo
|3o1ury
| 3oo1uyy
|Ibnsinma, sinaisma
| Leprechaun comma
|-
|-
|13
| 17
|[[4096/4095]]
| [[289/288]]
|0.42
| 6.00
|{{monzo|12 -2 -1 -1 0 -1}}
| {{Monzo| 5 -2 0 0 0 0 2 }}
|Sathurugu
| Soso
|s3urg
| 17oo
|Minisma
| Semitonisma
|-
|-
|17
| 17
|[[289/288]]
| [[715/714]]
|6.00
| 2.42
|[5 -2 0 0 0 0 2&#x27E9;
| {{Monzo| -1 -1 1 -1 1 1 -1 }}
|Soso
| Sutholoruyo
|17oo
| 17u3o1ory
|Semitonisma
| Septendecimal bridge comma
|-
|-
|17
| 19
|[[715/714]]
| [[361/360]]
|2.42
| 4.80
|{{monzo|-1 -1 1 -1 1 1 -1}}
| {{Monzo| -3 -2 -1 0 0 0 0 2 }}
|Sutholoruyo
| Nonogu
|17u3o1ory
| 19oog2
|Septendecimal bridge comma
| Go comma
|-
|-
|19
| 19
|[[361/360]]
| [[513/512]]
|4.80
| 3.38
|{{monzo|-3 -2 -1 0 0 0 0 2}}
| {{Monzo| -9 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 }}
|Nonogu
| Lano
|19oog2
| L19o
|Go comma
| Boethius' comma
|-
|-
|19
| 19
|[[513/512]]
| [[1216/1215]]
|3.38
| 1.42
|{{monzo|-9 3 0 0 0 0 0 1}}
| {{Monzo| 6 -5 -1 0 0 0 0 1 }}
|Lano
| Sanogu
|L19o
| s19og
|Boethius' comma
| Eratosthenes' comma
|-
|-
|19
| 19
|[[1216/1215]]
| [[11859211/11859210|(16 digits)]]
|1.42
| 0.00
|{{monzo|6 -5 -1 0 0 0 0 1}}
| {{Monzo| -1 -4 -1 1 -4 1 0 4 }}
|Sanogu
| <small>Quadno-athoquadlu-azogu</small>
|s19og
| <small>9o<sup>4</sup>3o1u<sup>4</sup>zg</small>
|Eratosthenes' comma
| Tredekisma
|-
| 23
| [[300/299]]
| 5.78
| {{Monzo| 2 1 2 0 0 -1 0 0 -1 }}
| Twethuthuyoyo
| 23u3uyy
| Major naiadvicema
|-
| 23
| [[323/322]]
| 5.37
| {{Monzo| -1 0 0 -1 0 0 1 1 -1 }}
| Twethunosoru
| 23u19o17or
| Major semivicema
|-
| 23
| [[391/390]]
| 4.43
| {{Monzo| -1 -1 -1 0 0 -1 1 0 1 }}
| Twethosothugu
| 23o17o3ug
| Minor naiadvicema
|-
| 23
| [[460/459]]
| 3.77
| {{Monzo| 2 -3 1 0 0 0 -1 0 1 }}
| Twethosuyo
| 23o17uy
| Scanisma, vicewolf comma
|-
| 23
| [[484/483]]
| 3.58
| {{Monzo| 2 -1 0 -1 2 0 0 0 -1 }}
| Twethuloloru
| 23u1oor
| Pittsburghisma
|}
|}