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{{Wikipedia| Septimal meantone temperament }} | {{Wikipedia| Septimal meantone temperament }} | ||
In septimal meantone, ten fifths get to the interval class for 7, so that [[7/4]] is an augmented sixth (C–A♯), [[7/6]] is an augmented second (C–D♯), [[7/5]] is an augmented fourth (C–F♯), and [[21/16]] is an augmented third (C–E♯). | In septimal meantone, ten fifths get to the interval class for 7, so that [[7/4]] is an augmented sixth (C–A♯), [[7/6]] is an augmented second (C–D♯), [[7/5]] is an augmented fourth (C–F♯), and [[21/16]] is an augmented third (C–E♯). This mapping is rationalized by the fact that 81/80 factors as ([[126/125]])⋅([[225/224]]), and septimal meantone tempers out both of these commas as well as their difference, [[3136/3125]]. In fact it can be defined as the 7-limit temperament that tempers out any two of 81/80, 126/125, 225/224, and 3136/3125. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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{{See also| Huygens vs meanpop }} | {{See also| Huygens vs meanpop }} | ||
Undecimal meantone<ref name="meantone & meanpop 2003">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_6048.html#6052 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''good 11-limit meantones'']</ref> a.k.a. huygens<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10437.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''The meantone family'']</ref><ref name="meantone & meanpop 2004">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10864.html#10870 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''names and definitions: meantone'']</ref> maps the [[11/8]] to the double-augmented third (C–E𝄪) | Undecimal meantone<ref name="meantone & meanpop 2003">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_6048.html#6052 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''good 11-limit meantones'']</ref> a.k.a. huygens<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10437.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''The meantone family'']</ref><ref name="meantone & meanpop 2004">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10864.html#10870 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''names and definitions: meantone'']</ref> maps the [[11/8]] to the double-augmented third (C–E𝄪). See [[chords of huygens]] for a list of dyadic chords in this temperament. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
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* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Meneghin/Claudi-Meneghin-Twinkle-canon-74-edo.mp3 ''Twinkle canon – 74 edo''] by [http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/573 Claudi Meneghin] | * [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Meneghin/Claudi-Meneghin-Twinkle-canon-74-edo.mp3 ''Twinkle canon – 74 edo''] by [http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/573 Claudi Meneghin] | ||
==== | ==== Grosstone ==== | ||
Grosstone, named for tempering out the [[grossma]], is the main extension of interest that extends undecimal meantone to the 13-limit. It maps 13/8 to the double-diminished seventh (C–B♭♭♭). Note also that 11/10 is a double-augmented unison; 12/11~13/12 is a double-diminished third; and 14/13 is a triple-augmented seventh octave reduced. Grosstone is flexible with its tunings; among the good tunings are [[31edo]], [[43edo]], and [[74edo]]. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 144/143 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 29 | 0 1 4 10 18 -16 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1199.9389{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.2282{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.2627{{c}} | ||
Minimax tuning: | Minimax tuning: | ||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| | * 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 8/13 0 0 1/26 0 -1/26 }} | ||
: unchanged-interval ( | : eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.13/7 | ||
Tuning ranges: | |||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [696.774, 697.674] (18\31 to 25\43) | |||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [691.202, 701.955] (1/2-comma to Pyth.) | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 31, 43, 74 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): | Badness (Sintel): 1.07 | ||
===== | ===== 17-limit ===== | ||
This extension maps 17/16 to the minor second (C–D♭), and 19/16 to the minor third (C–E♭), suitable for a system generated by a mildly tempered fifth. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125, 144/143 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 29 12 | 0 1 4 10 18 -16 -5 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1199.5811{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.0918{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.3303{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 31, 43, 74g }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): | Badness (Sintel): 1.06 | ||
===== 19-limit ===== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 81/80, 96/95, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125, 144/143 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 - | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 29 12 9 | 0 1 4 10 18 -16 -5 -3 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.2931{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.9690{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.3736{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 31, 43, 74gh }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.07 | |||
==== Fokkertone ==== | |||
Fokkertone maps the [[13/8]] to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪). Note that the minor third conflates 13/11 with 6/5, and that 11/10~13/12 is a double-augmented unison; 12/11 is a double-diminished third; and 14/13 is a minor second. 31edo can be recommended as a tuning since it is the only 13-odd-limit diamond monotone tuning. | |||
This extension used to be known as ''tridecimal meantone'', but was decanonicalized in 2025. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 66/65, 81/80, 99/98, 105/104 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -20 | 0 1 4 10 18 15 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1200.8149{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.1155{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696. | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.7085{{c}} | ||
{{ | Minimax tuning: | ||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 9/16 -1/8 0 0 1/16 }} | |||
: unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9 | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19e, 31 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.746 | |||
===== 17-limit ===== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
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Badness (Sintel): 1.02 | Badness (Sintel): 1.02 | ||
===== 19-limit ===== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
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Badness (Sintel): 1.10 | Badness (Sintel): 1.10 | ||
==== | ==== Meridetone ==== | ||
Meridetone maps the 13/8 to the quadruple-augmented fourth (C–F𝄪𝄪). 43edo can be recommended as a tuning since it is the only 13-odd-limit diamond monotone tuning. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125 | Comma list: 78/77, 81/80, 99/98, 126/125 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -39 | 0 1 4 10 18 27 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199. | * WE: ~2 = 1199.9122{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.4779{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697. | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.5241{{c}} | ||
Minimax tuning: | Minimax tuning: | ||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| | * 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 14/25 -2/25 0 0 0 1/25 }} | ||
: | : unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.13/9 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 31f, 43 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.09 | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | |||
===== 17-limit ===== | ===== 17-limit ===== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125 | Comma list: 78/77, 81/80, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -39 12 | 0 1 4 10 18 27 -5 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199. | * WE: ~2 = 1199.3793{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.2833{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697. | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.6222{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 43 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.22 | ||
===== 19-limit ===== | ===== 19-limit ===== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
Comma list: 81/80, 96/95, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125 | Comma list: 78/77, 81/80, 96/95, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -39 12 9 | 0 1 4 10 18 27 -5 -3 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199. | * WE: ~2 = 1199.0260{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.1486{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697. | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.6887{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 43 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.25 | ||
==== | ==== Hemimeantone ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 169/168 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -5 | 0 2 8 20 36 11 }} | |||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~26/15 | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1201.0387{{c}}, ~26/15 = 949.2863{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~ | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~26/15 = 948.5065{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, 43, 62 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.30 | |||
===== 17-limit ===== | |||
===== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 169/168, 221/220 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 - | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -5 -22 | 0 2 8 20 36 11 33 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1201.0270{{c}}, ~26/15 = 949.2892{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~ | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~26/15 = 948.5169{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19eg, 43, 62 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.19 | ||
===== 19-limit ===== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 153/152, 169/168, 221/220 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 - | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -5 -22 -25 | 0 2 8 20 36 11 33 37 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1201.0339{{c}}, ~19/11 = 949.2902{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~ | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~19/11 = 948.5111{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19egh, 43, 62 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.15 | |||
==== Semimeantone ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 847/845 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 -50 -59 | 0 1 4 10 18 21 }} | |||
: mapping generators: ~55/39, ~3 | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~55/39 = 600.3606{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.4241{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~55/39 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.0545{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, …, 50eff, 62, 136b }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.68 | ||
===== | ===== 17-limit ===== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 221/220, 289/288 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| | Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 -50 -59 5 | 0 1 4 10 18 21 1 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~17/12 = 600.5426{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.5571{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.9858{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 50eff, 62, 136bg }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.60 | ||
==== | ===== 19-limit ===== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, | Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 153/152, 209/208, 221/220 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| | Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 -50 -59 5 -1 | 0 1 4 10 18 21 1 3 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~17/12 = 600.5959{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.5985{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.9638{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 50eff, 62 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.47 | ||
=== | === Meanpop === | ||
{{See also| Huygens vs meanpop }} | |||
Meanpop<ref name="meantone & meanpop 2003"/><ref name="meantone & meanpop 2004"/> maps the 11/8 to the double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫), and tridecimal meanpop maps the 13/8 to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪), tempering out 144/143 like in grosstone. Note also 11/10 is a double-diminished third; 12/11~13/12, double-augmented unison; and 14/13, minor second. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 81/80, 126/125, 385/384 | |||
{{ | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 24 | 0 1 4 10 -13 }} | ||
: mapping generator: ~2, ~3 | |||
== | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1201.3464{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.2159{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.4509{{c}} | |||
Minimax tuning: | |||
* 11-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 0 0 1/4 }} | |||
: projection map: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 0 0 1 0 0 }}, {{monzo| -3 0 5/2 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 11 0 -13/4 0 0 }}] | |||
: unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.5 | |||
Tuning ranges: | |||
* 11-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [694.737, 696.774] (11\19 to 18\31) | |||
* 11-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [691.202, 701.955] (1/2-comma to Pyth.) | |||
Algebraic generator: Cybozem; or else Radieubiz, the real root of 3''x''<sup>3</sup> + 6''x'' - 19. Unlike Cybozem, the recurrence for Radieubiz does not converge. | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12e, 19, 31, 81, 112b }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.712 | |||
; Music | |||
* [http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/607 Scott Joplin's "The Entertainer" tuned into meanpop]{{dead link}} | |||
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Meneghin/Claudi-Meneghin-Twinkle-canon-50-edo.mp3 ''Twinkle canon – 50 edo''] by [http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/573 Claudi Meneghin] | |||
==== | ==== Tridecimal meanpop ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: 81/80, | Comma list: 81/80, 105/104, 126/125, 144/143 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 24 -20 | 0 1 4 10 -13 15 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~2 = 1201.0765{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.8361{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.2347{{c}} | ||
{{ | Minimax tuning: | ||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 4/7 0 0 0 -1/28 1/28 }} | |||
: unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.13/11 | |||
Tuning ranges: | |||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [694.737, 696.774] (11\19 to 18\31) | |||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [691.202, 701.955] (1/2-comma to Pyth.) | |||
===== | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 31, 50, 81 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 0.863 | |||
===== Meanpoppic ===== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
Comma list: 81/80, | Comma list: 81/80, 105/104, 126/125, 144/143, 273/272 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 24 -20 -37 | 0 1 4 10 -13 15 26 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~2 = 1201.0727{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.8168{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.2195{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19g, 31, 50, 81, 131bd }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.02 | ||
===== 19-limit ===== | ====== 19-limit ====== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
Comma list: 81/80, | Comma list: 81/80, 105/104, 126/125, 144/143, 153/152, 273/272 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 24 -20 -37 -40 | 0 1 4 10 -13 15 26 28 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~2 = 1201.0719{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.8101{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.2137{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19gh, 31, 50, 81 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.08 | ||
=== | ===== Meanpoid ===== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | |||
Comma list: 81/80, 105/104, 120/119, 126/125, 144/143 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 24 -20 12 | 0 1 4 10 -13 15 -5 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2768{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.5683{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.4114{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 31 }} | |||
: | Badness (Sintel): 1.17 | ||
====== 19-limit ====== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | |||
Comma list: 77/76, 81/80, 96/95, 105/104, 120/119, 126/125 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 24 -20 12 9 | 0 1 4 10 -13 15 -5 -3 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7905{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.3779{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.4973{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 31 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): | Badness (Sintel): 1.25 | ||
==== Semimeanpop ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 81/80, 126/125, 385/384, 847/845 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 48 39 | 0 1 4 10 -13 -10 }} | |||
: mapping generators: ~55/39, ~3 | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~55/39 = 600.6704{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.2151{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~55/39 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.4341{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12e, 50, 62, 112b }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.78 | |||
===== 17-limit ===== | |||
===== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
Comma list: 81/80 | Comma list: 81/80, 126/125, 221/220, 273/272, 289/288 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| | Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 48 39 5 | 0 1 4 10 -13 -10 1 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~17/12 = 600.7232{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.2820{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.4411{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12e, 50, 62, 112bg }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.45 | ||
===== 19-limit ===== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
Comma list: 81/80, | Comma list: 81/80, 126/125, 153/152, 209/208, 221/220, 273/272 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| | Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 48 39 5 -1 | 0 1 4 10 -13 -10 1 3 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~17/12 = 600.7527{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.3244{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.4525{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12e, 50, 62, 112bgh }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.28 | |||
=== Meanenneadecal === | |||
Meanenneadecal maps the 11/8 to the augmented fourth (C–F♯), and tridecimal meanenneadecal maps the 13/8 to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪). Note also 11/10 is a major second; 12/11~14/13, minor second; and 13/12, double-augmented unison. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: | Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, 81/80 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -6 | 0 1 4 10 6 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1199.6946{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.0729{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696. | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.2083{{c}} | ||
Tuning ranges: | |||
* 11-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [694.737, 700.000] (11\19 to 7\12) | |||
* 11-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [682.502, 704.377] | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7d, 12, 19, 31e }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.708 | |||
==== 13-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, 78/77, 81/80 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -6 -20 | 0 1 4 10 6 15 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1199.7931{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.0258{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696. | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.1241{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7df, 12f, 19, 31e }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.875 | |||
Badness (Sintel): | |||
===== 17-limit ===== | ===== 17-limit ===== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, 78/77, 81/80, 120/119 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -6 -20 12 | 0 1 4 10 6 15 -5 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1198.6665{{c}}, ~3/2 = 695.8010{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696. | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.4998{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19, 31e }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.17 | ||
===== 19-limit ===== | ===== 19-limit ===== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, 78/77, 81/80, 96/95, 120/119 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -6 -20 12 9 | 0 1 4 10 6 15 -5 -3 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1198.2880{{c}}, ~3/2 = 695.7123{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696. | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.6370{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19, 31e }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.23 | ||
=== | ==== Vincenzo ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, 65/64, 81/80 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -6 10 | 0 1 4 10 6 -4 }} | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -6 | 0 1 4 10 6 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1202.1684{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.3160{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 695.2045{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7d, 12, 19 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.02 | |||
===== 17-limit ===== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | |||
Comma list: 45/44, 52/51, 56/55, 65/64, 81/80 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -6 10 12 | 0 1 4 10 6 -4 -5 }} | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -6 | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1200.5137{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.1561{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 695.8771{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 19 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): | Badness (Sintel): 1.30 | ||
===== | ===== 19-limit ===== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, | Comma list: 39/38, 45/44, 52/51, 56/55, 65/64, 81/80 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -6 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -6 10 12 9 | 0 1 4 10 6 -4 -5 -3 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1199.8261{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.0298{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696. | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.1262{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 19 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.36 | ||
=== | === Bimeantone === | ||
11/8 is mapped to half octave minus the [[128/125|meantone diesis]]. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 81/80, 126/125, 245/242 | |||
Optimal tunings: | Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 -31 | 0 1 4 10 12 }} | ||
* WE: ~ | |||
* CWE: ~ | : mapping generators: ~63/44, ~3 | ||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~63/44 = 600.7492{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.8853{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~63/44 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.1908{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 26de, 38d, 50 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.26 | ||
==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 81/80, 105/104, 126/125, 245/242 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| | Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 -31 -40 | 0 1 4 10 12 15 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~55/39 = 600.8309{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.8000{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~55/39 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.0066{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 26deff, 38df, 50 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.19 | ||
==== 17-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 81/80, 105/104, 126/125, 189/187, 221/220 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| | Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 -31 -40 5 | 0 1 4 10 12 15 1 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~17/12 = 600.9234{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.8536{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 695.9317{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 38df, 50 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.15 | ||
==== 19-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 81/80, 105/104, 126/125, 153/152, 189/187, 221/220 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| | Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 -31 -40 5 -1 | 0 1 4 10 12 15 1 3 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~17/12 = 600.9845{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.8939{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 695.8947{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 26deff, 38df, 50 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.08 | ||
=== | === Trimean === | ||
{{See also| No-sevens subgroup temperaments #Superpine }} | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 81/80, 126/125, 1344/1331 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 4 7 5 | 0 -3 -12 -30 -11 }} | |||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~11/10 | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.7155{{c}}, ~11/10 = 167.9055{{c}} | |||
==== | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/10 = 167.7749{{c}} | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7d, 36d, 43, 50, 93 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.68 | |||
==== 13-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: | Comma list: 81/80, 126/125, 144/143, 364/363 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 - | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 4 7 5 3 | 0 -3 -12 -30 -11 5 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1200.6104{{c}}, ~11/10 = 167.8749{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~ | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/10 = 167.7728{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7d, 43, 50, 93 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.46 | ||
==== | ==== 17-limit ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 81/80, 126/125, 144/143, 189/187, 221/220 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 - | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 4 7 5 3 8 | 0 -3 -12 -30 -11 5 -28 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1200.6144{{c}}, ~11/10 = 167.8716{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~ | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/10 = 167.7682{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7dg, 43, 50, 93 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.28 | ||
=== | === Migration === | ||
See [[Rastmic clan #Migration|Rastmic clan]]. | |||
== Flattone == | |||
{{Main| Flattone }} | |||
In flattone, 9 fourths get to the interval class for 7, so that [[7/4]] is a diminished seventh (C–B𝄫), [[7/6]] is a diminished third (C–E𝄫), and [[7/5]] is a double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫). In general, septimal subminor intervals are diminished and septimal supermajor intervals are augmented, which makes it quite easy to learn flattone notation. The fifth in flattone is typically flatter than that of [[19edo]]. Good tunings for flattone include [[45edo]], [[64edo]], and [[71edo]]. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 81/80, 525/512 | |||
{{ | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -4 17 | 0 1 4 -9 }} | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | |||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1203.6308{{c}}, ~3/2 = 695.8782{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +3.631 -2.446 -2.801 -2.684 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 693.7334{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -8.222 -11.380 -12.426 }} | |||
= | [[Minimax tuning]]: | ||
* [[7-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 8/13 0 1/13 -1/13 }} | |||
: [[projection map]]: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 21/13 0 1/13 -1/13 }}, {{monzo| 32/13 0 4/13 -4/13 }}, {{monzo| 32/13 0 -9/13 9/13 }}] | |||
: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.7/5 | |||
* [[9-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 6/11 2/11 0 -1/11 }} | |||
: [[projection map]]: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 17/11 2/11 0 -1/11 }}, {{monzo| 24/11 8/11 0 -4/11 }}, {{monzo| 34/11 -18/11 0 9/11 }}] | |||
: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/7 | |||
[[Tuning ranges]]: | |||
* 7- and 9-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = [692.308, 694.737] (15\26 to 11\19) | |||
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [692.353, 701.955] | |||
* 9-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [691.202, 701.955] | |||
[[Algebraic generator]]: Squarto, the positive root of 8''x''<sup>2</sup> - 4''x'' - 9, at 506.3239 cents, equal to (1 + sqrt (19))/4. | |||
Optimal | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 19, 26, 45 }} | ||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.976 | |||
=== 11-limit === | |||
This can also be considered a no-sevens temperament: [[#Hypnotone|hypnotone]]. | |||
=== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
Comma list: 81/80, | Comma list: 45/44, 81/80, 385/384 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 17 -6 | 0 1 4 -9 6 }} | ||
: | Optimal tuning: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1202.3247{{c}}, ~3/2 = 694.4688{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 693.1467{{c}} | |||
Tuning ranges: | |||
* | * 11-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [692.308, 694.737] (15\26 to 11\19) | ||
* | * 11-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [682.502, 701.955] | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 19, 26, 45, 71bc, 116bcde }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.12 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 45/44, 65/64, 78/77, 81/80 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 17 -6 10 | 0 1 4 -9 6 -4 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~ | * WE: ~2 = 1202.5156{{c}}, ~3/2 = 694.5107{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~ | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 693.0538{{c}} | ||
Tuning ranges: | |||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [692.308, 694.737] (15\26 to 11\19) | |||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [682.502, 701.955] | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 19, 26, 45f, 71bcf, 116bcdef }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.920 | |||
=== Ptolemy === | |||
See [[Rastmic clan #Ptolemy|Rastmic clan]]. | |||
== Dominant == | |||
{{Main| Dominant (temperament) }} | |||
{{See also| Archytas clan }} | |||
The interval class for 7 is obtained from two fourths in succession, so that 7/4 is a minor seventh (C–Bb). The 7/6 interval is, like 6/5, now a minor third, and 7/5 is a diminished fifth. An excellent tuning for dominant is [[12edo]], but it also works well with the Pythagorean tuning of pure [[3/2]] fifths, and with [[29edo]], [[41edo]], or [[53edo]]. | |||
Because dominant entails a near-pure perfect fifth, a small number of generators will not land on an interval close to prime 11. The canonical 11-limit extension identifies 11/8 with the diminished fifth. Domination tempers out 77/75 and identifies 11/8 with the augmented third. Domineering identifies 11/8 with the augmented fourth, which is a very inaccurate mapping; it is however, notable for having the lowest badness among the extensions. Arnold tempers out 33/32 and identifies 11/8 with the perfect fourth. None of them are nearly as good as the weak extension [[neutrominant]], splitting the fifth as well as the chromatic semitone in two like in all [[rastmic clan|rastmic]] temperaments. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 36/35, 64/63 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -4 6 | 0 1 4 -2 }} | |||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | |||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1195.3384{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.8478{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| -4.662 -7.769 +9.077 +14.832 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.1125{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.842 +18.136 +28.949 }} | |||
[[Tuning ranges]]: | |||
* | * [[7-odd-limit|7-]] and [[9-odd-limit]] [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = [700.000, 720.000] (7\12 to 3\5) | ||
* | * 7-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [694.786, 715.587] | ||
* 9-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [691.202, 715.587] | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 7, 12, 41cd, 53cdd, 65ccddd }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.524 | ||
=== 11-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 36/35, 56/55, 64/63 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 6 13 | 0 1 4 -2 -6 }} | ||
: | Tuning ranges: | ||
* 11-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [700.000, 705.882] (7\12 to 10\17) | |||
* 11-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [691.202, 715.587] | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1194.0169{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.7473{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~ | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.2672{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 12, 17c, 29cde }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): | Badness (Sintel): 0.799 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 36/35, 56/55, 64/63, 66/65 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 6 13 18 | 0 1 4 -2 -6 -9 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1193.8055{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.0042{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~ | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.8254{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | Tuning ranges: | ||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = 705.882 (10\17) | |||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [691.202, 715.587] | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 17c, 29cdef }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): | Badness (Sintel): 0.996 | ||
==== | ==== Dominion ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 26/25, 36/35, 56/55, 64/63 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 6 13 -9 | 0 1 4 -2 -6 8 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1195.0293{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9847{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~ | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.7698{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 12, 17c }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.13 | ||
== | === Domination === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 36/35, 64/63, 77/75 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 6 -14 | 0 1 4 -2 11 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1194.8645{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9872{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.5945{{c}} | |||
{{ | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 12e, 17c }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1.21 | |||
==== 13-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 26/25, 36/35, 64/63, 66/65 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 6 -14 -9 | 0 1 4 -2 11 8 }} | |||
{{ | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1195.1324{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.6343{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 705.0791{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 12e, 17c }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.13 | |||
=== Domineering === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
Comma list: 45/44, | Comma list: 36/35, 45/44, 64/63 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 6 -6 | 0 1 4 -2 6 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1194.7102{{c}}, ~3/2 = 695.6962{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.1765{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 7, 12 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.727 | |||
=== Arnold === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 22/21, 33/32, 36/35 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 6 5 | 0 1 4 -2 -1 }} | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * WE: ~2 = 1199.8507{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.4045{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.4822{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 7, 12e }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.864 | |||
=== Neutrominant === | |||
See [[Rastmic clan #Neutrominant|Rastmic clan]]. | |||
== Flattertone == | == Flattertone == | ||
In flattertone, 17 fifths get to the interval class for 7, so that [[7/4]] is a double-augmented sixth (C–Ax). The fifth in flattertone is typically at least as flat as [[26edo]]. Here, 26edo and [[33edo|33cd-edo]] are the two primary flattertone tunings. [[1/2-comma meantone]] is also encompassed within flattertone's range. Any flatter than this, the meantone mapping for 5/4 is too inaccurate (it becomes more of a [[16/13]] or [[27/22]]), and [[deeptone]] temperament's mapping is more logical. | |||
Flattertone was named by [[Flora Canou]] in 2024. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
| Line 1,047: | Line 1,063: | ||
* [https://youtu.be/scCuGXnj5IY ''Music in 33EDO (33-Tone Equal Temperament) - Feb 2024''] by [[Budjarn Lambeth]] (2024) | * [https://youtu.be/scCuGXnj5IY ''Music in 33EDO (33-Tone Equal Temperament) - Feb 2024''] by [[Budjarn Lambeth]] (2024) | ||
== | == Sharptone == | ||
Sharptone is a low-accuracy temperament tempering out [[21/20]] and [[28/27]]. In sharptone, 7/4 is a major sixth, 7/6 a whole tone, and 7/5 a fourth. Genuinely septimal sounding harmony therefore cannot be expected, but it can be used to translate, more or less, 7-limit JI into 5-limit meantone. [[12edo]] tuning does sharptone about as well as such a thing can be done, of course not in its patent val. | |||
However, while 12edo ends up near-optimal, the only valid [[diamond monotone]] tuning for sharptone is [[5edo]]. Anything flat of it has ~12/7 and ~7/4 in the wrong order (and so should be dominant) and anything sharp of it has ~5/4 and ~4/3 in the wrong order (and so should not be meantone). | |||
The 11-limit extension was named by Gene Ward Smith in 2004<ref name="meantone & meanpop 2004"/>. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: | [[Comma list]]: 21/20, 28/27 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -4 | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -4 -2 | 0 1 4 3 }} | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1204.2961{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.6463{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| | : [[error map]]: {{val| +4.296 +4.987 +24.271 -56.591 }} | ||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701. | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.4928{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.462 +19.657 -64.347 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 7d, 12d }} | |||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.629 | |||
=== Meanertone === | |||
=== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
Comma list: | Comma list: 21/20, 28/27, 33/32 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -2 5 | 0 1 4 3 -1 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1208.5304{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.5669{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.1117{{c}} | ||
Optimal | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 7d, 12de }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 0.832 | |||
== Mildtone == | |||
Mildtone tempers out [[16128/15625]] and finds the interval class of 7 at 22 generators up, as a triple-augmented fifth (C–G#x). [[55edo]] and [[67edo]] are among the possible tunings. | |||
Mildtone was named by [[User: Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] in 2024. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 81/80, 16128/15625 | |||
Optimal | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -4 -32 | 0 1 4 22 }} | ||
* WE: ~2 = | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.7304{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.3953{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.270 -3.829 +7.267 -1.434 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.5397{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -3.415 +7.845 -0.952 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 43d, 55, 67 }} | |||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.67 | |||
=== 11-limit === | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: | [[Comma list]]: 81/80, 176/175, 7056/6875 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -4 -32 | 0 1 4 22 30}} | |||
Optimal | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* WE: ~2 = | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.816{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.355{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.455{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 43de, 55, 67 }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.15 | ||
=== | === 13-limit === | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 81/80, 176/175, 196/195, 832/825 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -4 -32 -44 | 0 1 4 22 30}} | |||
{{ | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.788{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.355{{c}} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.471{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12f, 55f, 67 }} | |||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.04 | |||
=== 17-limit === | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 81/80, 176/175, 189/187, 196/195, 832/825 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -4 -32 -44 12| 0 1 4 22 30 -5}} | |||
== | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.655{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.295{{c}} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.488{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12f, 55f, 67 }} | |||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.98 | |||
=== 19-limit === | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
[[Comma list]]: | [[Comma list]]: 81/80, 96/95, 176/175, 189/187, 196/195, 832/825 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -4 - | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -4 -32 -44 12 9| 0 1 4 22 30 -5 -3}} | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.371{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.164{{c}} | ||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.519{{c}} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = | |||
Optimal | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12f, 55f, 67 }} | ||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.95 | |||
{{Todo|unify precision|review}} | |||
== Supermean == | == Supermean == | ||
| Line 1,384: | Line 1,240: | ||
{{Main| Mohajira }} | {{Main| Mohajira }} | ||
Mohajira can be viewed as derived from mohaha which maps the interval half a [[chromatic semitone|chroma]] flat of the minor seventh to ~7/4 so that 7/4 is mapped to a semidiminished seventh (C–Bdb), although mohajira really makes more sense as an 11-limit temperament. It tempers out 6144/6125, the [[porwell comma]]. It can be described as {{nowrap| 24 & 31 }}; its ploidacot is dicot. [[31edo]] makes for an excellent mohajira tuning, with generator 9\31. | Mohajira can be viewed as derived from [[mohaha]] which maps the interval half a [[chromatic semitone|chroma]] flat of the minor seventh to ~7/4 so that 7/4 is mapped to a semidiminished seventh (C–Bdb), although mohajira really makes more sense as an 11-limit temperament. It tempers out 6144/6125, the [[porwell comma]]. It can be described as {{nowrap| 24 & 31 }}; its ploidacot is dicot. [[31edo]] makes for an excellent mohajira tuning, with generator 9\31. Note that while 24 + 31 = [[55edo]] doesn't apear in the optimal ET sequence, it is a [[patent val]] tuning and recommendable if you prefer a light meantone tempering. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
| Line 2,060: | Line 1,916: | ||
Tuning ranges: | Tuning ranges: | ||
* 13 | * 13-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = 692.308 (15\26) | ||
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [682.458, 701.955] | * 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [682.458, 701.955] | ||
| Line 2,495: | Line 2,351: | ||
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