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== Scale properties == | == Scale properties == | ||
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=== Intervals === | |||
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=== Generator chain === | |||
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=== Modes === | |||
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==== Proposed names ==== | ==== Proposed names ==== | ||
Revision as of 19:00, 3 March 2025
| ↖ 3L 2s | ↑ 4L 2s | 5L 2s ↗ |
| ← 3L 3s | 4L 3s | 5L 3s → |
| ↙ 3L 4s | ↓ 4L 4s | 5L 4s ↘ |
sLsLsLL
4L 3s, named smitonic in TAMNAMS, is a 2/1-equivalent (octave-equivalent) moment of symmetry scale containing 4 large steps and 3 small steps, repeating every octave. Generators that produce this scale range from 857.1 ¢ to 900 ¢, or from 300 ¢ to 342.9 ¢. 4L 3s can be seen as a warped diatonic scale, where one large step of diatonic (5L 2s) is replaced with a small step.
Name
TAMNAMS suggests the temperament-agnostic name smitonic as the name of 4L 3s. The name derives from "sharp minor third", referring to the generator's quality.
Scale properties
- This article uses TAMNAMS conventions for the names of this scale's intervals and scale degrees. The use of 1-indexed ordinal names is reserved for interval regions.
Intervals
| Intervals | Steps subtended |
Range in cents | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Generic | Specific | Abbrev. | ||
| 0-smistep | Perfect 0-smistep | P0smis | 0 | 0.0 ¢ |
| 1-smistep | Minor 1-smistep | m1smis | s | 0.0 ¢ to 171.4 ¢ |
| Major 1-smistep | M1smis | L | 171.4 ¢ to 300.0 ¢ | |
| 2-smistep | Perfect 2-smistep | P2smis | L + s | 300.0 ¢ to 342.9 ¢ |
| Augmented 2-smistep | A2smis | 2L | 342.9 ¢ to 600.0 ¢ | |
| 3-smistep | Minor 3-smistep | m3smis | L + 2s | 300.0 ¢ to 514.3 ¢ |
| Major 3-smistep | M3smis | 2L + s | 514.3 ¢ to 600.0 ¢ | |
| 4-smistep | Minor 4-smistep | m4smis | 2L + 2s | 600.0 ¢ to 685.7 ¢ |
| Major 4-smistep | M4smis | 3L + s | 685.7 ¢ to 900.0 ¢ | |
| 5-smistep | Diminished 5-smistep | d5smis | 2L + 3s | 600.0 ¢ to 857.1 ¢ |
| Perfect 5-smistep | P5smis | 3L + 2s | 857.1 ¢ to 900.0 ¢ | |
| 6-smistep | Minor 6-smistep | m6smis | 3L + 3s | 900.0 ¢ to 1028.6 ¢ |
| Major 6-smistep | M6smis | 4L + 2s | 1028.6 ¢ to 1200.0 ¢ | |
| 7-smistep | Perfect 7-smistep | P7smis | 4L + 3s | 1200.0 ¢ |
Generator chain
| Bright gens | Scale degree | Abbrev. |
|---|---|---|
| 10 | Augmented 1-smidegree | A1smid |
| 9 | Augmented 3-smidegree | A3smid |
| 8 | Augmented 5-smidegree | A5smid |
| 7 | Augmented 0-smidegree | A0smid |
| 6 | Augmented 2-smidegree | A2smid |
| 5 | Major 4-smidegree | M4smid |
| 4 | Major 6-smidegree | M6smid |
| 3 | Major 1-smidegree | M1smid |
| 2 | Major 3-smidegree | M3smid |
| 1 | Perfect 5-smidegree | P5smid |
| 0 | Perfect 0-smidegree Perfect 7-smidegree |
P0smid P7smid |
| −1 | Perfect 2-smidegree | P2smid |
| −2 | Minor 4-smidegree | m4smid |
| −3 | Minor 6-smidegree | m6smid |
| −4 | Minor 1-smidegree | m1smid |
| −5 | Minor 3-smidegree | m3smid |
| −6 | Diminished 5-smidegree | d5smid |
| −7 | Diminished 7-smidegree | d7smid |
| −8 | Diminished 2-smidegree | d2smid |
| −9 | Diminished 4-smidegree | d4smid |
| −10 | Diminished 6-smidegree | d6smid |
Modes
| UDP | Cyclic order |
Step pattern |
Scale degree (smidegree) | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | |||
| 6|0 | 1 | LLsLsLs | Perf. | Maj. | Aug. | Maj. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Perf. |
| 5|1 | 6 | LsLLsLs | Perf. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Perf. |
| 4|2 | 4 | LsLsLLs | Perf. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Min. | Perf. | Maj. | Perf. |
| 3|3 | 2 | LsLsLsL | Perf. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Perf. |
| 2|4 | 7 | sLLsLsL | Perf. | Min. | Perf. | Maj. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Perf. |
| 1|5 | 5 | sLsLLsL | Perf. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Perf. |
| 0|6 | 3 | sLsLsLL | Perf. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Min. | Dim. | Min. | Perf. |
Proposed names
Alexandru Ianu (Ayceman)[1] has proposed the following mode names relating to the Almsivi in Morrowind (TES):
| UDP | Cyclic order |
Step pattern |
Mode names |
|---|---|---|---|
| 6|0 | 1 | LLsLsLs | Nerevarine |
| 5|1 | 6 | LsLLsLs | Vivecan |
| 4|2 | 4 | LsLsLLs | Lorkhanic |
| 3|3 | 2 | LsLsLsL | Sothic |
| 2|4 | 7 | sLLsLsL | Kagrenacan |
| 1|5 | 5 | sLsLLsL | Almalexian |
| 0|6 | 3 | sLsLsLL | Dagothic |
Theory
Low harmonic entropy scales
There are two notable harmonic entropy minima:
- Kleismic temperament, in which the generator is 6/5 and 6 of them make a 3/1.
- Myna temperament, in which the generator is also 6/5 but it takes 10 of them to make a 6/1, meaning that a larger MOS than 4L 3s is required to reach 3/2 or 4/3.
Temperament interpretations
4L 3s has the following temperament interpretations:
- Sixix, with generators around 338.6 ¢.
- Orgone, with generators around 323.4 ¢.
- Kleismic, with generators around 317 ¢.
Other temperaments, such as amity and myna, require more than 7 pitches to contain the concordant chords optimized by these temperaments. If restricted to a rank-2 approach, a MODMOS or a larger MOS gamut is necessary to access these pitches.
Tuning ranges
Simple tunings
The simplest tunings are those with step ratios 2:1, 3:1, and 3:2, producing 11edo, 15edo, and 18edo, respectively.
| Scale degree | Abbrev. | Basic (2:1) 11edo |
Hard (3:1) 15edo |
Soft (3:2) 18edo | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Steps | ¢ | Steps | ¢ | Steps | ¢ | ||
| Perfect 0-smidegree | P0smid | 0\11 | 0.0 | 0\15 | 0.0 | 0\18 | 0.0 |
| Minor 1-smidegree | m1smid | 1\11 | 109.1 | 1\15 | 80.0 | 2\18 | 133.3 |
| Major 1-smidegree | M1smid | 2\11 | 218.2 | 3\15 | 240.0 | 3\18 | 200.0 |
| Perfect 2-smidegree | P2smid | 3\11 | 327.3 | 4\15 | 320.0 | 5\18 | 333.3 |
| Augmented 2-smidegree | A2smid | 4\11 | 436.4 | 6\15 | 480.0 | 6\18 | 400.0 |
| Minor 3-smidegree | m3smid | 4\11 | 436.4 | 5\15 | 400.0 | 7\18 | 466.7 |
| Major 3-smidegree | M3smid | 5\11 | 545.5 | 7\15 | 560.0 | 8\18 | 533.3 |
| Minor 4-smidegree | m4smid | 6\11 | 654.5 | 8\15 | 640.0 | 10\18 | 666.7 |
| Major 4-smidegree | M4smid | 7\11 | 763.6 | 10\15 | 800.0 | 11\18 | 733.3 |
| Diminished 5-smidegree | d5smid | 7\11 | 763.6 | 9\15 | 720.0 | 12\18 | 800.0 |
| Perfect 5-smidegree | P5smid | 8\11 | 872.7 | 11\15 | 880.0 | 13\18 | 866.7 |
| Minor 6-smidegree | m6smid | 9\11 | 981.8 | 12\15 | 960.0 | 15\18 | 1000.0 |
| Major 6-smidegree | M6smid | 10\11 | 1090.9 | 14\15 | 1120.0 | 16\18 | 1066.7 |
| Perfect 7-smidegree | P7smid | 11\11 | 1200.0 | 15\15 | 1200.0 | 18\18 | 1200.0 |
Parasoft tunings
Parasoft smitonic tunings can be considered "meantone smitonic" since it has the following features of meantone diatonic tunings:
- The major 1-mosstep, or large step, is around 10/9 to 9/8, thus making it a "meantone".
- The augmented 2-mosstep is around the size of a meantone-sized major 3rd and can be used as a stand-in for such.
These tunings have a major 4-mosstep and minor 4-mosstep that are about equally off a just 3/2 (702 ¢), and they have otherwise fairly convincing versions of both diatonic structure and tertian harmony, provided you frequently modify using the comma-like chromas. For this reason, parasoft might be the most accessible smitonic tuning range.
Edos include 18edo, 25edo, and 43edo. Some key considerations include:
- 18edo can be used to make the large and small steps more distinct, or can be considered a distorted 19edo diatonic.
- 18edo has a major 1-mosstep that is close to 9/8 (203 ¢).
- 18edo's major and minor 4-mossteps are both equally off from 12edo's diatonic perfect 5th (700 ¢) by 33.3 ¢.
- 18edo is also more suited for conventionally jazz styles due to its 6-fold symmetry.
- The augmented 2-mosstep of 25edo is very close to 5/4 (386 ¢).
| Scale degree | Abbrev. | Supersoft (4:3) 25edo |
7:5 43edo |
Soft (3:2) 18edo | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Steps | ¢ | Steps | ¢ | Steps | ¢ | ||
| Perfect 0-smidegree | P0smid | 0\25 | 0.0 | 0\43 | 0.0 | 0\18 | 0.0 |
| Minor 1-smidegree | m1smid | 3\25 | 144.0 | 5\43 | 139.5 | 2\18 | 133.3 |
| Major 1-smidegree | M1smid | 4\25 | 192.0 | 7\43 | 195.3 | 3\18 | 200.0 |
| Perfect 2-smidegree | P2smid | 7\25 | 336.0 | 12\43 | 334.9 | 5\18 | 333.3 |
| Augmented 2-smidegree | A2smid | 8\25 | 384.0 | 14\43 | 390.7 | 6\18 | 400.0 |
| Minor 3-smidegree | m3smid | 10\25 | 480.0 | 17\43 | 474.4 | 7\18 | 466.7 |
| Major 3-smidegree | M3smid | 11\25 | 528.0 | 19\43 | 530.2 | 8\18 | 533.3 |
| Minor 4-smidegree | m4smid | 14\25 | 672.0 | 24\43 | 669.8 | 10\18 | 666.7 |
| Major 4-smidegree | M4smid | 15\25 | 720.0 | 26\43 | 725.6 | 11\18 | 733.3 |
| Diminished 5-smidegree | d5smid | 17\25 | 816.0 | 29\43 | 809.3 | 12\18 | 800.0 |
| Perfect 5-smidegree | P5smid | 18\25 | 864.0 | 31\43 | 865.1 | 13\18 | 866.7 |
| Minor 6-smidegree | m6smid | 21\25 | 1008.0 | 36\43 | 1004.7 | 15\18 | 1000.0 |
| Major 6-smidegree | M6smid | 22\25 | 1056.0 | 38\43 | 1060.5 | 16\18 | 1066.7 |
| Perfect 7-smidegree | P7smid | 25\25 | 1200.0 | 43\43 | 1200.0 | 18\18 | 1200.0 |
Hyposoft tunings
Hyposoft smitonic tunings (3:2 to 2:1) are characterized by generators that are a supraminor 3rd, between 327 ¢ and 333 ¢. By analogy of parasoft tunings being called "meantone smitonic", these tunings can be considered "neogothic smitonic" or "archy smitonic".
Edos include 11edo (not shown), 18edo, and 29edo.
| Scale degree | Abbrev. | Soft (3:2) 18edo |
Semisoft (5:3) 29edo |
7:4 40edo | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Steps | ¢ | Steps | ¢ | Steps | ¢ | ||
| Perfect 0-smidegree | P0smid | 0\18 | 0.0 | 0\29 | 0.0 | 0\40 | 0.0 |
| Minor 1-smidegree | m1smid | 2\18 | 133.3 | 3\29 | 124.1 | 4\40 | 120.0 |
| Major 1-smidegree | M1smid | 3\18 | 200.0 | 5\29 | 206.9 | 7\40 | 210.0 |
| Perfect 2-smidegree | P2smid | 5\18 | 333.3 | 8\29 | 331.0 | 11\40 | 330.0 |
| Augmented 2-smidegree | A2smid | 6\18 | 400.0 | 10\29 | 413.8 | 14\40 | 420.0 |
| Minor 3-smidegree | m3smid | 7\18 | 466.7 | 11\29 | 455.2 | 15\40 | 450.0 |
| Major 3-smidegree | M3smid | 8\18 | 533.3 | 13\29 | 537.9 | 18\40 | 540.0 |
| Minor 4-smidegree | m4smid | 10\18 | 666.7 | 16\29 | 662.1 | 22\40 | 660.0 |
| Major 4-smidegree | M4smid | 11\18 | 733.3 | 18\29 | 744.8 | 25\40 | 750.0 |
| Diminished 5-smidegree | d5smid | 12\18 | 800.0 | 19\29 | 786.2 | 26\40 | 780.0 |
| Perfect 5-smidegree | P5smid | 13\18 | 866.7 | 21\29 | 869.0 | 29\40 | 870.0 |
| Minor 6-smidegree | m6smid | 15\18 | 1000.0 | 24\29 | 993.1 | 33\40 | 990.0 |
| Major 6-smidegree | M6smid | 16\18 | 1066.7 | 26\29 | 1075.9 | 36\40 | 1080.0 |
| Perfect 7-smidegree | P7smid | 18\18 | 1200.0 | 29\29 | 1200.0 | 40\40 | 1200.0 |
Hypohard tunings
Hypohard smitonic tunings (2:1 to 3:1) have generators between 320 ¢ and 327 ¢. The major 1-mosstep, or large step, tends to approximate 8/7 (231 ¢) and the major 3-mosstep tends to approximate 11/8 (551 ¢). 26edo approximates these two intervals very well. These JI approximations are associated with orgone temperament.
Other hypohard edos include 11edo (not shown), 15edo and 37edo.
| Scale degree | Abbrev. | 7:3 37edo |
Semihard (5:2) 26edo |
Hard (3:1) 15edo | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Steps | ¢ | Steps | ¢ | Steps | ¢ | ||
| Perfect 0-smidegree | P0smid | 0\37 | 0.0 | 0\26 | 0.0 | 0\15 | 0.0 |
| Minor 1-smidegree | m1smid | 3\37 | 97.3 | 2\26 | 92.3 | 1\15 | 80.0 |
| Major 1-smidegree | M1smid | 7\37 | 227.0 | 5\26 | 230.8 | 3\15 | 240.0 |
| Perfect 2-smidegree | P2smid | 10\37 | 324.3 | 7\26 | 323.1 | 4\15 | 320.0 |
| Augmented 2-smidegree | A2smid | 14\37 | 454.1 | 10\26 | 461.5 | 6\15 | 480.0 |
| Minor 3-smidegree | m3smid | 13\37 | 421.6 | 9\26 | 415.4 | 5\15 | 400.0 |
| Major 3-smidegree | M3smid | 17\37 | 551.4 | 12\26 | 553.8 | 7\15 | 560.0 |
| Minor 4-smidegree | m4smid | 20\37 | 648.6 | 14\26 | 646.2 | 8\15 | 640.0 |
| Major 4-smidegree | M4smid | 24\37 | 778.4 | 17\26 | 784.6 | 10\15 | 800.0 |
| Diminished 5-smidegree | d5smid | 23\37 | 745.9 | 16\26 | 738.5 | 9\15 | 720.0 |
| Perfect 5-smidegree | P5smid | 27\37 | 875.7 | 19\26 | 876.9 | 11\15 | 880.0 |
| Minor 6-smidegree | m6smid | 30\37 | 973.0 | 21\26 | 969.2 | 12\15 | 960.0 |
| Major 6-smidegree | M6smid | 34\37 | 1102.7 | 24\26 | 1107.7 | 14\15 | 1120.0 |
| Perfect 7-smidegree | P7smid | 37\37 | 1200.0 | 26\26 | 1200.0 | 15\15 | 1200.0 |
Parahard tunings
Parahard smitonic tunings (3:1 to 4:1) have generators between 315.9 ¢ and 320 ¢, putting it close to a pure 6/5 (316 ¢). Stacking six generators and octave-reducing approximates 3/2 (702 ¢), a diatonic perfect 5th, represented by the diminished 5-mosstep.
This range contains very accurate edos such as 53edo and 72edo, and has very accurate approximations to many low-overtone JI intervals, namely basic 5-limit ratios and some ratios involving 13. However, 4L 3s only has one interval of 3/2, so it's suggested to use a larger MOS, such as 4L 7s, to achieve 5-limit harmony.
These JI approximations are associated with kleismic temperament, through the 2.3.5.13 extension known as cata.
Parahard edos smaller than 53edo include 15edo (not shown), 19edo, and 34edo.
| Scale degree | Abbrev. | 7:2 34edo |
11:3 53edo |
Superhard (4:1) 19edo | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Steps | ¢ | Steps | ¢ | Steps | ¢ | ||
| Perfect 0-smidegree | P0smid | 0\34 | 0.0 | 0\53 | 0.0 | 0\19 | 0.0 |
| Minor 1-smidegree | m1smid | 2\34 | 70.6 | 3\53 | 67.9 | 1\19 | 63.2 |
| Major 1-smidegree | M1smid | 7\34 | 247.1 | 11\53 | 249.1 | 4\19 | 252.6 |
| Perfect 2-smidegree | P2smid | 9\34 | 317.6 | 14\53 | 317.0 | 5\19 | 315.8 |
| Augmented 2-smidegree | A2smid | 14\34 | 494.1 | 22\53 | 498.1 | 8\19 | 505.3 |
| Minor 3-smidegree | m3smid | 11\34 | 388.2 | 17\53 | 384.9 | 6\19 | 378.9 |
| Major 3-smidegree | M3smid | 16\34 | 564.7 | 25\53 | 566.0 | 9\19 | 568.4 |
| Minor 4-smidegree | m4smid | 18\34 | 635.3 | 28\53 | 634.0 | 10\19 | 631.6 |
| Major 4-smidegree | M4smid | 23\34 | 811.8 | 36\53 | 815.1 | 13\19 | 821.1 |
| Diminished 5-smidegree | d5smid | 20\34 | 705.9 | 31\53 | 701.9 | 11\19 | 694.7 |
| Perfect 5-smidegree | P5smid | 25\34 | 882.4 | 39\53 | 883.0 | 14\19 | 884.2 |
| Minor 6-smidegree | m6smid | 27\34 | 952.9 | 42\53 | 950.9 | 15\19 | 947.4 |
| Major 6-smidegree | M6smid | 32\34 | 1129.4 | 50\53 | 1132.1 | 18\19 | 1136.8 |
| Perfect 7-smidegree | P7smid | 34\34 | 1200.0 | 53\53 | 1200.0 | 19\19 | 1200.0 |
Scales
Scale tree
| Generator(edo) | Cents | Step ratio | Comments | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bright | Dark | L:s | Hardness | |||||||
| 5\7 | 857.143 | 342.857 | 1:1 | 1.000 | Equalized 4L 3s | |||||
| 28\39 | 861.538 | 338.462 | 6:5 | 1.200 | Amity/hitchcock ↑ | |||||
| 23\32 | 862.500 | 337.500 | 5:4 | 1.250 | Sixix | |||||
| 41\57 | 863.158 | 336.842 | 9:7 | 1.286 | ||||||
| 18\25 | 864.000 | 336.000 | 4:3 | 1.333 | Supersoft 4L 3s | |||||
| 49\68 | 864.706 | 335.294 | 11:8 | 1.375 | ||||||
| 31\43 | 865.116 | 334.884 | 7:5 | 1.400 | ||||||
| 44\61 | 865.574 | 334.426 | 10:7 | 1.429 | ||||||
| 13\18 | 866.667 | 333.333 | 3:2 | 1.500 | Soft 4L 3s | |||||
| 47\65 | 867.692 | 332.308 | 11:7 | 1.571 | ||||||
| 34\47 | 868.085 | 331.915 | 8:5 | 1.600 | ||||||
| 55\76 | 868.421 | 331.579 | 13:8 | 1.625 | Golden 4L 3s (868.3282 ¢) | |||||
| 21\29 | 868.966 | 331.034 | 5:3 | 1.667 | Semisoft 4L 3s | |||||
| 50\69 | 869.565 | 330.435 | 12:7 | 1.714 | ||||||
| 29\40 | 870.000 | 330.000 | 7:4 | 1.750 | ||||||
| 37\51 | 870.588 | 329.412 | 9:5 | 1.800 | ||||||
| 8\11 | 872.727 | 327.273 | 2:1 | 2.000 | Basic 4L 3s Scales with tunings softer than this are proper | |||||
| 35\48 | 875.000 | 325.000 | 9:4 | 2.250 | ||||||
| 27\37 | 875.676 | 324.324 | 7:3 | 2.333 | ||||||
| 46\63 | 876.190 | 323.810 | 12:5 | 2.400 | Hyperkleismic | |||||
| 19\26 | 876.923 | 323.077 | 5:2 | 2.500 | Semihard 4L 3s Orgone | |||||
| 49\67 | 877.612 | 322.388 | 13:5 | 2.600 | Golden superkleismic | |||||
| 30\41 | 878.049 | 321.951 | 8:3 | 2.667 | Superkleismic | |||||
| 41\56 | 878.571 | 321.429 | 11:4 | 2.750 | ||||||
| 11\15 | 880.000 | 320.000 | 3:1 | 3.000 | Hard 4L 3s | |||||
| 36\49 | 881.633 | 318.367 | 10:3 | 3.333 | ||||||
| 25\34 | 882.353 | 317.647 | 7:2 | 3.500 | ||||||
| 39\53 | 883.019 | 316.981 | 11:3 | 3.667 | Hanson/keemun | |||||
| 14\19 | 884.211 | 315.789 | 4:1 | 4.000 | Superhard 4L 3s | |||||
| 31\42 | 885.714 | 314.286 | 9:2 | 4.500 | ||||||
| 17\23 | 886.957 | 313.043 | 5:1 | 5.000 | ||||||
| 20\27 | 888.889 | 311.111 | 6:1 | 6.000 | Oolong/myna ↓ | |||||
| 3\4 | 900.000 | 300.000 | 1:0 | → ∞ | Collapsed 4L 3s | |||||
Music
- City of the Asleep, "An Amputated Elliptic Knob of the Cryptocurve Regenerates" (Various orgone edos)
- ks26, Ghost Bridge (11edo)
- Alexandru Ianu, Sylvian Moon Dance (11edo) (sheet music)
References
- ↑ Description of Sylvian Moon Dance mentioning the naming proposal https://musescore.com/user/36772625/scores/6700443 – The theme relates to the mystical nature of the Tribunal and TES lore, which fits smitonic.