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{{Technical data page}}
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The '''archytas clan''' (or '''archy family''') [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[64/63|Archytas' comma]], 64/63. This means a stack of two [[3/2]] fifths [[octave reduction|octave-reduced]] equals a whole tone of [[8/7]]~[[9/8]] tempered together; two of these tones or equivalently four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a [[9/7]] major third. Note the similarity in function to [[81/80]] in meantone, where four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a [[5/4]] major third. This leads to tunings with 3's and 7's quite sharp, such as those of [[22edo]].  
The '''archytas clan''' (or '''archy family''') [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[64/63|Archytas' comma]], 64/63. This means a stack of two [[3/2]] fifths [[octave reduction|octave-reduced]] equals a whole tone of [[8/7]][[~]][[9/8]] tempered together; two of these tones or equivalently four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a [[9/7]] major third. Note the similarity in function to [[81/80]] in meantone, where four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a [[5/4]] major third. This leads to tunings with 3's and 7's quite sharp, such as those of [[22edo]], [[27edo]], or [[49edo]].  


This article focuses on rank-2 temperaments. See [[Archytas family]] for the [[rank-3 temperament]] resulting from tempering out 64/63 alone in the full 7-limit.  
This article focuses on rank-2 temperaments. See [[Archytas family]] for the [[rank-3 temperament]] resulting from tempering out 64/63 alone in the full 7-limit.  
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: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3
: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3


{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 0 4 | 0 1 0 -2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 0 6 | 0 1 0 -2 }}


: [[gencom]]: [2 3/2; 64/63]
: [[gencom]]: [2 3; 64/63]


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 709.595
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.9552{{c}}, ~3/2 = 707.5215{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +7.640 +11.984 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -3.045 +2.522 +3.952 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 709.321
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 709.3901{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +7.366 +12.532 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +7.435 +12.394 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 3, 5, 12, 17, 22, 137bdd, 159bddd, 181bbddd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 3, 5, 12, 17, 22, 137bdd, 159bddd, 181bbddd }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.00464
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.159


Scales: [[archy5]], [[archy7]], [[archy12]]
Scales: [[archy5]], [[archy7]], [[archy12]]
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==== 7-limit extensions ====
==== 7-limit extensions ====
The second comma in the comma list defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at:  
The second comma in the comma list defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at:  
* [[#Schism|Schism]] adds 360/343, for an [[exotemperament]] well tuned around [[12edo]];  
* [[#Schism|Schism]] adds 360/343, for a tuning around [[12edo]];  
* Dominant adds [[36/35]], for a tuning flat of [[17edo|17c-edo]];  
* Dominant adds [[36/35]], for a tuning between [[12edo]] and [[17edo|17c-edo]];  
* [[#Quasisuper|Quasisuper]] adds [[2430/2401]], for a tuning between 17c-edo and [[22edo]];  
* [[#Quasisuper|Quasisuper]] adds [[2430/2401]], for a tuning between 17c-edo and [[22edo]];  
* [[#Superpyth|Superpyth]] adds [[245/243]], for a tuning between 22edo and [[27edo]];  
* [[#Superpyth|Superpyth]] adds [[245/243]], for a tuning between 22edo and [[27edo]];  
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* [[Dominant (temperament)|Dominant]] (+36/35) → [[Meantone family #Dominant|Meantone family]]
* [[Dominant (temperament)|Dominant]] (+36/35) → [[Meantone family #Dominant|Meantone family]]
* ''[[Medusa]]'' (+15/14) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Medusa|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* ''[[Medusa]]'' (+15/14) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Medusa|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* ''[[Suhajira]]'' (+243/242) → [[Neutral clan #Suhajira|Neutral clan]]
* ''[[Immunized]]'' (+8748/8575) → [[Immunity family #Immunized|Immunity family]]
* ''[[Immunized]]'' (+8748/8575) → [[Immunity family #Immunized|Immunity family]]
* [[Pajara]] (+50/49) → [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|Diaschismic family]]
* [[Pajara]] (+50/49) → [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|Diaschismic family]]
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* ''[[Brightstone]]'' (+3125/3024) → [[Magic family #Brightstone|Magic family]]
* ''[[Brightstone]]'' (+3125/3024) → [[Magic family #Brightstone|Magic family]]
* ''[[Passion]]'' (+3125/3087) → [[Passion family #Septimal passion|Passion family]]
* ''[[Passion]]'' (+3125/3087) → [[Passion family #Septimal passion|Passion family]]
* ''[[Blacksmith]]'' (+28/27) → [[Limmic temperaments #Blacksmith|Limmic temperaments]]
* [[Blackwood]] (+28/27) → [[Limmic temperaments #Blackwood|Limmic temperaments]]
* ''[[Catalan]]'' (+15625/15552) → [[Kleismic family #Catalan|Kleismic family]]
* ''[[Catalan]]'' (+15625/15552) → [[Kleismic family #Catalan|Kleismic family]]


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==== Subgroup extensions ====
==== Subgroup extensions ====
Omitting prime 5, archy can be extended to the 2.3.7.11 subgroup by identifying 11/8 as a diminished fourth (C–Gb). This is called supra, given right below.  
Omitting prime 5, archy can be extended to the 2.3.7.11 subgroup by identifying 11/8 as a diminished fourth (C–Gb). This is called supra, given right below. Discussed elsewhere is [[suhajira]] of the [[neutral clan #Suhajira|neutral clan]].


=== Supra ===
=== Supra ===
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Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 6 13 | 0 1 -2 -6 }}
Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 6 13 | 0 1 -2 -6 }}


Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 0 4 7 | 0 1 0 -2 -6 }}
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 6 13 | 0 1 0 -2 -6 }}


: gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 99/98]
: gencom: [2 3; 64/63 99/98]


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 708.456
* WE: ~2 = 1197.2650{{c}}, ~3/2 = 705.5803{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 707.192
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 707.4981{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 12, 17, 39d, 56d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 12, 17, 39d, 56d }}


Badness (Smith): 0.00933
Badness (Sintel): 0.352


Scales: [[supra7]], [[supra12]]
Scales: [[supra7]], [[supra12]]
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Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 6 13 18 | 0 1 -2 -6 -9 }}
Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 6 13 18 | 0 1 -2 -6 -9 }}


Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 0 4 7 9 | 0 1 0 -2 -6 -9 }}
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 6 13 18 | 0 1 0 -2 -6 -9 }}


: gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 78/77 99/98]
: gencom: [2 3; 64/63 78/77 99/98]


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 707.344
* WE: ~2 = 1197.1909{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.4836{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 706.137
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.4289{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 17 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 17 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.0111
Badness (Sintel): 0.498


Scales: [[supra7]], [[supra12]]
Scales: [[supra7]], [[supra12]]
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Superpyth (5-limit)]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Superpyth (5-limit)]].''


Superpyth adds [[245/243]] and [[1728/1715]] to the comma list and can be described as 22 & 27. ~5/4 is found at +9 generator steps, as an augmented second (C–D#).  
Superpyth, virtually the canonical extension, adds [[245/243]] and [[1728/1715]] to the comma list and can be described as {{nowrap| 22 & 27 }}. ~5/4 is found at +9 generator steps, as an augmented second (C–D#). 49edo remains an obvious tuning choice.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -12 6 | 0 1 9 -2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -12 6 | 0 1 9 -2 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 9 -2 12 -6 -30 }}


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 709.591
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1197.0549{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.5478{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +7.636 +0.002 +11.993 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -2.945 +3.648 -0.548 +2.298 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 710.291
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.1193{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +8.336 +6.305 +10.592 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +8.164 +4.760 +10.935 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 17, 22, 27, 49, 174bbcddd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 17, 22, 27, 49, 174bbcddd }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.032318
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.818


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
The canonical extension to the 13-limit finds the ~11/8 at +16 generator steps, as a double augmented second (C–Dx) and finds the ~13/8 at +13 generator steps, as a double augmented fourth (C–Fx).  
The canonical extension to the 13-limit finds the ~11/8 at +16 generator steps, as a double-augmented second (C–Dx) and finds the ~13/8 at +13 generator steps, as a double-augmented fourth (C–Fx).  


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 709.514
* WE: ~2 = 1197.0673{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.4391{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 710.175
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.0129{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 27e, 49 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 27e, 49 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.024976
Badness (Sintel): 0.826


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 709.836
* WE: ~2 = 1197.3011{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.8813{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 710.479
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.3219{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 27e, 49, 76bcde }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 27e, 49, 76bcde }}


Badness (Smith): 0.024673
Badness (Sintel): 1.02


==== Thomas ====
==== Thomas ====
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~16/13 = 354.759
* WE: ~2 = 1197.4942{{c}}, ~16/13 = 354.2950{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~16/13 = 355.036
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/13 = 354.9824{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 27e, 44, 71d, 98bde }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 27e, 44, 71d, 98bde }}


Badness (Smith): 0.049183
Badness (Sintel): 2.03


=== Suprapyth ===
=== Suprapyth ===
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 709.356
* WE: ~2 = 1198.6960{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.7235{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 709.495
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 709.4699{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 17, 22 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 17, 22 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.032768
Badness (Sintel): 1.08


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 708.702
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9871{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.6952{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 708.703
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.7028{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5f, 17, 22 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5f, 17, 22 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.036336
Badness (Sintel): 1.50


== Quasisuper ==
== Quasisuper ==
Quasisuper can be described as 17c & 22, with the ~5/4 mapped to -13 generator steps, as a double diminished fifth (C–Gbb).  
Quasisuper can be described as {{nowrap| 17c & 22 }}, with the ~5/4 mapped to -13 generator steps, as a double-diminished fifth (C–Gbb).  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 23 6 | 0 1 -13 -2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 23 6 | 0 1 -13 -2 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -13 -2 -23 -6 32 }}


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 708.769
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.9830{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.4578{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +6.814 -0.310 +13.636 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -3.017 +1.486 -0.435 +6.190 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 708.238
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3716{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +6.283 +6.586 +14.697 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +6.417 +4.855 +14.431 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 22, 61d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 22, 61d }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.063794
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.61


=== Quasisupra ===
=== Quasisupra ===
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 708.713
* WE: ~2 = 1197.5675{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.7690{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 708.205
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3200{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 17c, 22, 39d, 61d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 17c, 22, 39d, 61d }}


Badness (Smith): 0.032203
Badness (Sintel): 1.06


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 708.411
* WE: ~2 = 1198.2543{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.9736{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 708.004
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.0936{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 17c, 22, 39d, 61df, 100bcdf }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 17c, 22, 39d }}


Badness (Smith): 0.030219
Badness (Sintel): 1.25


=== Quasisoup ===
=== Quasisoup ===
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 709.043
* WE: ~2 = 1198.8446{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3388{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 709.021
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.0252{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.083490
Badness (Sintel): 2.76


== Ultrapyth ==
== Ultrapyth ==
Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 [[The Biosphere #Oceanfront|oceanfront]] temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to +14 fifths as a double augmented unison (C–Cx).
{{Main| Ultrapyth }}
 
Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 [[the Biosphere #Oceanfront|oceanfront]] temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to +14 fifths as a double-augmented unison (C–Cx).


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -20 6 | 0 1 14 -2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -20 6 | 0 1 14 -2 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 14 -2 20 -6 -44 }}


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 713.218
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1197.2673{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.0258{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +11.263 -1.264 +4.738 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -2.733 +7.338 -1.557 -3.808 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 713.651
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.5430{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +11.696 +4.800 +3.872 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +11.588 +3.288 +4.088 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 27c, 32, 37 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 27c, 32, 37 }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.108466
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.74


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 713.282
* WE: ~2 = 1198.0290{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.2235{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 713.395
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.3754{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 32, 37 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 32, 37 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.068238
Badness (Sintel): 2.26


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 713.309
* WE: ~2 = 1198.1911{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.4243{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 713.500
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.4684{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 32, 37 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 32, 37 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.049172
Badness (Sintel): 2.03


=== Ultramarine ===
=== Ultramarine ===
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 713.395
* WE: ~2 = 1197.2230{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.1393{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 713.791
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.6928{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bce }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bce }}


Badness (Smith): 0.078068
Badness (Sintel): 2.58


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 713.708
* WE: ~2 = 1197.2739{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.1893{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 713.811
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.7079{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bcef }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bcef }}


Badness (Smith): 0.045653
Badness (Sintel): 1.89


== Quasiultra ==
== Quasiultra ==
Quasiultra is to ultrapyth what quasisuper is to superpyth. It is the 27 & 32 temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to -18 fifths as a double diminished sixth (C–Abbb).  
Quasiultra is to ultrapyth what quasisuper is to superpyth. It is the {{nowrap| 27 & 32 }} temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to -18 fifths as a double diminished sixth (C–Abbb).  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 31 6 | 0 1 -18 -2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 31 6 | 0 1 -18 -2 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -18 -2 -31 -6 46 }}


[[Optimal tuning]]s:
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 711.838
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.9257{{c}}, ~3/2 = 709.6211{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +9.883 +0.608 +7.499 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +9.883 +0.608 +7.499 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 711.543
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 711.5429{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +9.588 +5.914 +8.088 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +9.588 +5.914 +8.088 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27, 86bd, 113bcd, 140bbcd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27, 86bd, 113bcd, 140bbcd }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.132
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.34


== Schism ==
== Schism ==
{{See also| Schismatic family #Schism }}
{{See also| Schismatic family #Schism }}


Schism tempers out the [[schisma]], mapping the ~5/4 to -8 fifths as a diminished fourth (C–Fb) as does any schismic temperament. 12edo is recommendable tuning, though 29edo (29d val), 41edo (41d val), and 53edo (53d val) can be used.  
Schism tempers out the [[schisma]], mapping the ~5/4 to -8 fifths as a diminished fourth (C–Fb) as does any schismic temperament. 12edo is recommendable tuning, though 29edo (29d val), 41edo (41d val), and 53edo (53dd val) can be used.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 702.270
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1197.3598{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.0126{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +0.315 -4.471 +26.635 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -2.640 -4.583 -4.896 +20.588 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 701.556
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7376{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.399 +1.237 +28.062 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.217 -0.214 +27.699 }}
 
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -8 -2 -15 -6 18 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5c, 7c, 12 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5c, 7c, 12 }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.056648
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.43


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 703.383
* WE: ~2 = 1196.1607{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.8897{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~3/2 = 702.136
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.4385{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5c, 7ce, 12, 29de }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5c, 7ce, 12, 29de }}


Badness (Smith): 0.037482
Badness (Sintel): 1.24


== Beatles ==
== Beatles ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Beatles]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Beatles]].''
Beatles tempers out 686/675, which may also be characterized by saying it tempers out [[2401/2400]]. It may be described as the {{nowrap| 10 & 17c }} temperament. It splits the fifth into two neutral-third generators of 49/40~60/49; its [[ploidacot]] is dicot. 5/4 may be found at -9 generator steps, as a semidiminished fourth (C–Fd). 27edo is an obvious tuning, though 17c-edo and 37edo are among the possibilities.
Beatles extends easily to the no-11 13-limit, as the generator can be interpreted as ~16/13, tempering out 91/90, 169/168, and 196/195.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 5 4 | 0 2 -9 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 5 4 | 0 2 -9 -4 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 2 -9 -4 -19 -12 16 }}


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~49/40 = 356.634
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.6244{{c}}, ~49/40 = 354.9029{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +11.312 +3.984 +4.640 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -3.376 +4.475 +2.682 -1.940 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~49/40 = 355.904
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~49/40 = 356.0819{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +9.853 +10.549 +7.558 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +10.209 +8.949 +6.847 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27, 64b, 91bcd, 118bccd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27, 64b, 91bcd, 118bccd }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.045872
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.16


; Music
; Music
* [http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Herman/beatles-improv.mp3 ''Beatles Improv''] by [[Herman Miller]]
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20201127013829/http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Herman/beatles-improv.mp3 ''Beatles Improv''] by [[Herman Miller]]


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~49/40 = 356.719
* WE: ~2 = 1196.7001{{c}}, ~49/40 = 355.1606{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~49/40 = 356.140
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~49/40 = 356.2795{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 17cee, 27e, 64be, 91bcdee }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 17cee, 27e, 64be, 91bcdee }}


Badness (Smith): 0.045639
Badness (Sintel): 1.51


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~16/13 = 356.722
* WE: ~2 = 1197.2504{{c}}, ~16/13 = 355.4132{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~16/13 = 356.229
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/13 = 356.3273{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 27e, 37, 64be }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 27e, 37, 64be }}


Badness (Smith): 0.030161
Badness (Sintel): 1.25


=== Ringo ===
=== Ringo ===
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/9 = 355.992
* WE: ~2 = 1195.4102{{c}}, ~11/9 = 354.0597{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/9 = 355.419
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 355.5207{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 17c, 27e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 17c, 27e }}


Badness (Smith): 0.032863
Badness (Sintel): 1.09


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/9 = 356.004
* WE: ~2 = 1195.9943{{c}}, ~11/9 = 354.2695{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/9 = 355.456
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 355.5398{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 17c, 27e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 17c, 27e }}


Badness (Smith): 0.022619
Badness (Sintel): 0.935


=== Beetle ===
=== Beetle ===
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 686/675
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 686/675


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 4 -1 | 0 2 -9 -4 15}}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 4 -1 | 0 2 -9 -4 15 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~49/40 = 356.694
* WE: ~2 = 1197.9660{{c}}, ~49/40 = 356.1056{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~49/40 = 356.710
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~49/40 = 356.7075{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 27, 37 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 27, 37 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.058084
Badness (Sintel): 1.92


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~16/13 = 356.700
* WE: ~2 = 1198.1741{{c}}, ~16/13 = 356.1582{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~16/13 = 356.701
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/13 = 356.7008{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 27, 37 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 27, 37 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.033971
Badness (Sintel): 1.40


== Progress ==
== Progress ==
{{Distinguish| Progression }}
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Progress]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Progress]].''
Progress tempers out 392/375 and may be described as {{nowrap| 15 & 17c }}. It splits the perfect twelfth into three generators of ~10/7; its ploidacot is alpha-tricot. 32c-edo gives an obvious tuning.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
: mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
{{Multival|legend=1| 3 -5 -6 -15 -18 0 }}


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~10/7 = 638.782
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1195.1377{{c}}, ~10/7 = 635.2932{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +14.391 +19.777 -1.518 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -4.862 +3.925 +12.908 -9.759 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~10/7 = 637.878
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 638.0791{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +11.679 +24.297 +3.907 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +12.282 +23.291 +2.700 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 13, 15, 32c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 13, 15, 32c }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.066400
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.68


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~10/7 = 638.846
* WE: ~2 = 1195.4920{{c}}, ~10/7 = 635.5183{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~10/7 = 637.915
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 638.0884{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2, 13, 15, 32c, 47bc }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2, 13, 15, 32c, 47bc }}


Badness (Smith): 0.031036
Badness (Sintel): 1.03


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~10/7 = 637.871
* WE: ~2 = 1195.0786{{c}}, ~10/7 = 635.0197{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~10/7 = 637.635
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 637.6691{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 17c, 32cf }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 17c, 32cf }}


Badness (Smith): 0.026214
Badness (Sintel): 1.08


==== Progressive ====
==== Progressive ====
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~10/7 = 637.797
* WE: ~2 = 1196.0245{{c}}, ~10/7 = 634.6516{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~10/7 = 636.761
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 636.9528{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2f, 15f, 17c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2f, 15f, 17c }}


Badness (Smith): 0.032721
Badness (Sintel): 1.35


== Fervor ==
== Fervor ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Fervor]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Fervor]].''
Fervor tempers out 9704/9375 and may be described as {{nowrap| 25 & 27 }}. It splits the 6th harmonic into five generators of ~10/7; its ploidacot is beta-pentacot. 27edo is about as accurate as it can be tuned.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 9604/9375
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 9604/9375


{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 4 -2 -2 | 0 -5 9 10 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 7 8 | 0 5 -9 -10 }}


: mapping generators: ~2, ~7/5
: mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
 
{{Multival|legend=1| 5 -9 -10 -26 -30 2 }}


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~7/5 = 577.353
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.2742{{c}}, ~10/7 = 620.2918{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +11.278 +9.867 +4.709 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -3.726 +3.230 +4.980 -1.550 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~7/5 = 577.776
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 622.3179{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +9.163 +13.673 +8.937 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +9.634 +12.826 +7.996 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 25, 27 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 25, 27 }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.108455
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.74


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 1350/1331
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 1350/1331


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 4 -2 -2 3 | 0 -5 9 10 1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 7 8 4 | 0 5 -9 -10 -1 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~7/5 = 577.296
* WE: ~2 = 1195.4148{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.7729{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~7/5 = 577.850
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 622.2525{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2, 25e, 27e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2, 25e, 27e }}


Badness (Smith): 0.052054
Badness (Sintel): 1.72


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
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Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 507/500
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 507/500


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 4 -2 -2 3 -4 | 0 -5 9 10 1 16 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 7 8 4 12 | 0 5 -9 -10 -1 -16 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~7/5 = 577.374
* WE: ~2 = 1195.6284{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.6738{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~7/5 = 578.060
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 622.0631{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2f, 27e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2f, 27e }}


Badness (Smith): 0.039705
Badness (Sintel): 1.64


== Sixix ==
== Sixix ==
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{{See also| Dual-fifth temperaments #Dual-3 Sixix }}
{{See also| Dual-fifth temperaments #Dual-3 Sixix }}


Sixix is related to the [[kleismic family]] in a way similar to the one between [[meantone]] and [[mavila]]. In both cases the generator is nominally a 6/5 and the complexity to generate major and minor chords is the same, but in sixix it is tuned extremely sharply, to the point where the 3rd and 5th harmonics are reached by going down instead of up, inverting the logic of chord construction.
Sixix tempers out 3125/2916 and may be described as {{nowrap| 25 & 32 }}. It is related to the [[kleismic family]] in a way similar to the one between [[meantone]] and [[mavila]]. In both cases the generator is nominally a 6/5 and the complexity to generate major and minor chords is the same, but in sixix it is tuned extremely sharply, to the point where the 3rd and 5th harmonics are reached by going down instead of up, inverting the logic of chord construction. Its ploidacot is gamma-pentacot.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 3 4 0 | 0 -5 -6 10 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 3 4 0 | 0 -5 -6 10 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 5 6 -10 -2 -30 -40 }}


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~6/5 = 337.519
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1198.9028{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.1334{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +10.449 -11.429 +6.366 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -1.097 +9.086 -13.503 +2.508 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~6/5 = 337.442
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.4588{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +10.835 -10.965 +5.594 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +10.751 -11.066 +5.762 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 18d, 25, 32 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 18d, 25, 32 }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.158903
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 4.02


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~6/5 = 337.749
* WE: ~2 = 1198.5480{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.1557{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~6/5 = 337.564
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.6000{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.070799
Badness (Sintel): 2.34


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~6/5 = 337.793
* WE: ~2 = 1197.7111{{c}}, ~6/5 = 336.8391{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~6/5 = 337.483
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.5336{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32f }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32f }}


Badness (Smith): 0.046206
Badness (Sintel): 1.91


=== 17-limit ===
=== 17-limit ===
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~6/5 = 337.629
* WE: ~2 = 1197.7807{{c}}, ~6/5 = 336.8884{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~6/5 = 337.513
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.5279{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32f }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32f }}


Badness (Smith): 0.039224
Badness (Sintel): 2.00


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Latest revision as of 12:52, 22 July 2025

This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

The archytas clan (or archy family) tempers out the Archytas' comma, 64/63. This means a stack of two 3/2 fifths octave-reduced equals a whole tone of 8/7~9/8 tempered together; two of these tones or equivalently four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a 9/7 major third. Note the similarity in function to 81/80 in meantone, where four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a 5/4 major third. This leads to tunings with 3's and 7's quite sharp, such as those of 22edo, 27edo, or 49edo.

This article focuses on rank-2 temperaments. See Archytas family for the rank-3 temperament resulting from tempering out 64/63 alone in the full 7-limit.

Archy

Subgroup: 2.3.7

Comma list: 64/63

Sval mapping[1 0 6], 0 1 -2]]

sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3

Gencom mapping[1 0 0 6], 0 1 0 -2]]

gencom: [2 3; 64/63]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1196.9552 ¢, ~3/2 = 707.5215 ¢
error map: -3.045 +2.522 +3.952]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 709.3901 ¢
error map: 0.000 +7.435 +12.394]

Optimal ET sequence2, 3, 5, 12, 17, 22, 137bdd, 159bddd, 181bbddd

Badness (Sintel): 0.159

Scales: archy5, archy7, archy12

Overview to extensions

7-limit extensions

The second comma in the comma list defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at:

These all use the same generators as archy.

686/675 gives beatles, splitting the fifth in two. 8748/8575 gives immunized, splitting the twelfth in two. 50/49 gives pajara with a semioctave period. 392/375 gives progress, splitting the twelfth in three. 250/243 gives porcupine, splitting the fourth in three. 126/125 gives augene with a 1/3-octave period. 4375/4374 gives modus, splitting the fifth in four. 3125/3024 gives brightstone. 9604/9375 gives fervor. 3125/2916 gives sixix. 3125/3087 gives passion. Those split the generator in five in various ways. 28/27 gives blacksmith with a 1/5-octave period. Finally, 15625/15552 gives catalan, splitting the twelfth in six.

Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:

Considered below are superpyth, quasisuper, ultrapyth, quasiultra, schism, beatles, progress, fervor, and sixix.

Subgroup extensions

Omitting prime 5, archy can be extended to the 2.3.7.11 subgroup by identifying 11/8 as a diminished fourth (C–Gb). This is called supra, given right below. Discussed elsewhere is suhajira of the neutral clan.

Supra

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 99/98

Sval mapping: [1 0 6 13], 0 1 -2 -6]]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 0 6 13], 0 1 0 -2 -6]]

gencom: [2 3; 64/63 99/98]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.2650 ¢, ~3/2 = 705.5803 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 707.4981 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 5, 12, 17, 39d, 56d

Badness (Sintel): 0.352

Scales: supra7, supra12

Supraphon

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 99/98

Sval mapping: [1 0 6 13 18], 0 1 -2 -6 -9]]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 0 6 13 18], 0 1 0 -2 -6 -9]]

gencom: [2 3; 64/63 78/77 99/98]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.1909 ¢, ~3/2 = 704.4836 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 706.4289 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 12f, 17

Badness (Sintel): 0.498

Scales: supra7, supra12

Superpyth

For the 5-limit version, see Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Superpyth (5-limit).

Superpyth, virtually the canonical extension, adds 245/243 and 1728/1715 to the comma list and can be described as 22 & 27. ~5/4 is found at +9 generator steps, as an augmented second (C–D#). 49edo remains an obvious tuning choice.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 245/243

Mapping[1 0 -12 6], 0 1 9 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.0549 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.5478 ¢
error map: -2.945 +3.648 -0.548 +2.298]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 710.1193 ¢
error map: 0.000 +8.164 +4.760 +10.935]

Optimal ET sequence5, 17, 22, 27, 49, 174bbcddd

Badness (Sintel): 0.818

11-limit

The canonical extension to the 13-limit finds the ~11/8 at +16 generator steps, as a double-augmented second (C–Dx) and finds the ~13/8 at +13 generator steps, as a double-augmented fourth (C–Fx).

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 245/243

Mapping: [1 0 -12 6 -22], 0 1 9 -2 16]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.0673 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.4391 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 710.0129 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 22, 27e, 49

Badness (Sintel): 0.826

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99

Mapping: [1 0 -12 6 -22 -17], 0 1 9 -2 16 13]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.3011 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.8813 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 710.3219 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 22, 27e, 49, 76bcde

Badness (Sintel): 1.02

Thomas

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 169/168, 245/243

Mapping: [1 1 -3 4 -6 4], 0 2 18 -4 32 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.4942 ¢, ~16/13 = 354.2950 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~16/13 = 354.9824 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 27e, 44, 71d, 98bde

Badness (Sintel): 2.03

Suprapyth

Suprapyth finds the ~11/8 at the diminished fifth (C–Gb), and finds the ~13/8 at the diminished seventh (C–Bbb).

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 99/98

Mapping: [1 0 -12 6 13], 0 1 9 -2 -6]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1198.6960 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.7235 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 709.4699 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 5, 17, 22

Badness (Sintel): 1.08

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 65/63, 99/98

Mapping: [1 0 -12 6 13 18], 0 1 9 -2 -6 -9]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.9871 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.6952 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.7028 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 5f, 17, 22

Badness (Sintel): 1.50

Quasisuper

Quasisuper can be described as 17c & 22, with the ~5/4 mapped to -13 generator steps, as a double-diminished fifth (C–Gbb).

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 2430/2401

Mapping[1 0 23 6], 0 1 -13 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1196.9830 ¢, ~3/2 = 706.4578 ¢
error map: -3.017 +1.486 -0.435 +6.190]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.3716 ¢
error map: 0.000 +6.417 +4.855 +14.431]

Optimal ET sequence17c, 22, 61d

Badness (Sintel): 1.61

Quasisupra

Quasisupra can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.11 temperament supra, with the quasisuper mapping of 5 thrown in, rather than the superpyth mapping of 5 (which results in suprapyth).

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 99/98, 121/120

Mapping: [1 0 23 6 13], 0 1 -13 -2 -6]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.5675 ¢, ~3/2 = 706.7690 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.3200 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 17c, 22, 39d, 61d

Badness (Sintel): 1.06

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 121/120

Mapping: [1 0 23 6 13 18], 0 1 -13 -2 -6 -9]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1198.2543 ¢, ~3/2 = 706.9736 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.0936 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 17c, 22, 39d

Badness (Sintel): 1.25

Quasisoup

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2430/2401

Mapping: [1 0 23 6 -22], 0 1 -13 -2 16]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1198.8446 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.3388 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.0252 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 22

Badness (Sintel): 2.76

Ultrapyth

Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 oceanfront temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to +14 fifths as a double-augmented unison (C–Cx).

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 6860/6561

Mapping[1 0 -20 6], 0 1 14 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.2673 ¢, ~3/2 = 712.0258 ¢
error map: -2.733 +7.338 -1.557 -3.808]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 713.5430 ¢
error map: 0.000 +11.588 +3.288 +4.088]

Optimal ET sequence5, 27c, 32, 37

Badness (Sintel): 2.74

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2401/2376

Mapping: [1 0 -20 6 21], 0 1 14 -2 -11]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1198.0290 ¢, ~3/2 = 712.2235 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 713.3754 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 5, 32, 37

Badness (Sintel): 2.26

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 1573/1568

Mapping: [1 0 -20 6 21 -25], 0 1 14 -2 -11 18]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1198.1911 ¢, ~3/2 = 712.4243 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 713.4684 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 5, 32, 37

Badness (Sintel): 2.03

Ultramarine

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 3773/3645

Mapping: [1 0 -20 6 -38], 0 1 14 -2 26]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.2230 ¢, ~3/2 = 712.1393 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 713.6928 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 5e, 32e, 37, 79bce

Badness (Sintel): 2.58

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 847/845

Mapping: [1 0 -20 6 -38 -25], 0 1 14 -2 26 18]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.2739 ¢, ~3/2 = 712.1893 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 713.7079 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 5e, 32e, 37, 79bcef

Badness (Sintel): 1.89

Quasiultra

Quasiultra is to ultrapyth what quasisuper is to superpyth. It is the 27 & 32 temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to -18 fifths as a double diminished sixth (C–Abbb).

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 33614/32805

Mapping[1 0 31 6], 0 1 -18 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1196.9257 ¢, ~3/2 = 709.6211 ¢
error map: 0.000 +9.883 +0.608 +7.499]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 711.5429 ¢
error map: 0.000 +9.588 +5.914 +8.088]

Optimal ET sequence27, 86bd, 113bcd, 140bbcd

Badness (Sintel): 3.34

Schism

Schism tempers out the schisma, mapping the ~5/4 to -8 fifths as a diminished fourth (C–Fb) as does any schismic temperament. 12edo is recommendable tuning, though 29edo (29d val), 41edo (41d val), and 53edo (53dd val) can be used.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 360/343

Mapping[1 0 15 6], 0 1 -8 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.3598 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.0126 ¢
error map: -2.640 -4.583 -4.896 +20.588]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.7376 ¢
error map: 0.000 -0.217 -0.214 +27.699]

Optimal ET sequence5c, 7c, 12

Badness (Sintel): 1.43

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 45/44, 64/63, 99/98

Mapping: [1 0 15 6 13], 0 1 -8 -2 -6]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1196.1607 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.8897 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.4385 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 5c, 7ce, 12, 29de

Badness (Sintel): 1.24

Beatles

For the 5-limit version, see Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Beatles.

Beatles tempers out 686/675, which may also be characterized by saying it tempers out 2401/2400. It may be described as the 10 & 17c temperament. It splits the fifth into two neutral-third generators of 49/40~60/49; its ploidacot is dicot. 5/4 may be found at -9 generator steps, as a semidiminished fourth (C–Fd). 27edo is an obvious tuning, though 17c-edo and 37edo are among the possibilities.

Beatles extends easily to the no-11 13-limit, as the generator can be interpreted as ~16/13, tempering out 91/90, 169/168, and 196/195.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 686/675

Mapping[1 1 5 4], 0 2 -9 -4]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1196.6244 ¢, ~49/40 = 354.9029 ¢
error map: -3.376 +4.475 +2.682 -1.940]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~49/40 = 356.0819 ¢
error map: 0.000 +10.209 +8.949 +6.847]

Optimal ET sequence10, 17c, 27, 64b, 91bcd, 118bccd

Badness (Sintel): 1.16

Music

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 686/675

Mapping: [1 1 5 4 10], 0 2 -9 -4 -22]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1196.7001 ¢, ~49/40 = 355.1606 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~49/40 = 356.2795 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 10e, 17cee, 27e, 64be, 91bcdee

Badness (Sintel): 1.51

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168

Mapping: [1 1 5 4 10 4], 0 2 -9 -4 -22 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.2504 ¢, ~16/13 = 355.4132 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~16/13 = 356.3273 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 10e, 27e, 37, 64be

Badness (Sintel): 1.25

Ringo

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 540/539

Mapping: [1 1 5 4 2], 0 2 -9 -4 5]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1195.4102 ¢, ~11/9 = 354.0597 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~11/9 = 355.5207 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 10, 17c, 27e

Badness (Sintel): 1.09

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 91/90

Mapping: [1 1 5 4 2 4], 0 2 -9 -4 5 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1195.9943 ¢, ~11/9 = 354.2695 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~11/9 = 355.5398 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 10, 17c, 27e

Badness (Sintel): 0.935

Beetle

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 686/675

Mapping: [1 1 5 4 -1], 0 2 -9 -4 15]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.9660 ¢, ~49/40 = 356.1056 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~49/40 = 356.7075 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 10, 27, 37

Badness (Sintel): 1.92

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 169/168

Mapping: [1 1 5 4 -1 4], 0 2 -9 -4 15 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1198.1741 ¢, ~16/13 = 356.1582 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~16/13 = 356.7008 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 10, 27, 37

Badness (Sintel): 1.40

Progress

Not to be confused with Progression.
For the 5-limit version, see Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Progress.

Progress tempers out 392/375 and may be described as 15 & 17c. It splits the perfect twelfth into three generators of ~10/7; its ploidacot is alpha-tricot. 32c-edo gives an obvious tuning.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 392/375

Mapping[1 0 5 6], 0 3 -5 -6]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1195.1377 ¢, ~10/7 = 635.2932 ¢
error map: -4.862 +3.925 +12.908 -9.759]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 638.0791 ¢
error map: 0.000 +12.282 +23.291 +2.700]

Optimal ET sequence2, 13, 15, 32c

Badness (Sintel): 1.68

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 77/75

Mapping: [1 0 5 6 4], 0 3 -5 -6 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1195.4920 ¢, ~10/7 = 635.5183 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 638.0884 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 2, 13, 15, 32c, 47bc

Badness (Sintel): 1.03

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 66/65, 77/75

Mapping: [1 0 5 6 4 0], 0 3 -5 -6 -1 7]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1195.0786 ¢, ~10/7 = 635.0197 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 637.6691 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 15, 17c, 32cf

Badness (Sintel): 1.08

Progressive

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 26/25, 56/55, 64/63, 77/75

Mapping: [1 0 5 6 4 9], 0 3 -5 -6 -1 -10]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1196.0245 ¢, ~10/7 = 634.6516 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 636.9528 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 2f, 15f, 17c

Badness (Sintel): 1.35

Fervor

For the 5-limit version, see Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Fervor.

Fervor tempers out 9704/9375 and may be described as 25 & 27. It splits the 6th harmonic into five generators of ~10/7; its ploidacot is beta-pentacot. 27edo is about as accurate as it can be tuned.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 9604/9375

Mapping[1 -1 7 8], 0 5 -9 -10]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1196.2742 ¢, ~10/7 = 620.2918 ¢
error map: -3.726 +3.230 +4.980 -1.550]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 622.3179 ¢
error map: 0.000 +9.634 +12.826 +7.996]

Optimal ET sequence2, 25, 27

Badness (Sintel): 2.74

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 1350/1331

Mapping: [1 -1 7 8 4], 0 5 -9 -10 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1195.4148 ¢, ~10/7 = 619.7729 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 622.2525 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 2, 25e, 27e

Badness (Sintel): 1.72

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 507/500

Mapping: [1 -1 7 8 4 12], 0 5 -9 -10 -1 -16]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1195.6284 ¢, ~10/7 = 619.6738 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 622.0631 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 2f, 27e

Badness (Sintel): 1.64

Sixix

For the 5-limit version, see Syntonic–chromatic equivalence continuum #Sixix (5-limit).

Sixix tempers out 3125/2916 and may be described as 25 & 32. It is related to the kleismic family in a way similar to the one between meantone and mavila. In both cases the generator is nominally a 6/5 and the complexity to generate major and minor chords is the same, but in sixix it is tuned extremely sharply, to the point where the 3rd and 5th harmonics are reached by going down instead of up, inverting the logic of chord construction. Its ploidacot is gamma-pentacot.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 3125/2916

Mapping[1 3 4 0], 0 -5 -6 10]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1198.9028 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.1334 ¢
error map: -1.097 +9.086 -13.503 +2.508]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.4588 ¢
error map: 0.000 +10.751 -11.066 +5.762]

Optimal ET sequence7, 18d, 25, 32

Badness (Sintel): 4.02

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 125/121

Mapping: [1 3 4 0 6], 0 -5 -6 10 -9]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1198.5480 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.1557 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.6000 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 25e, 32

Badness (Sintel): 2.34

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 40/39, 55/54, 64/63, 125/121

Mapping: [1 3 4 0 6 4], 0 -5 -6 10 -9 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.7111 ¢, ~6/5 = 336.8391 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.5336 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 25e, 32f

Badness (Sintel): 1.91

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 40/39, 55/54, 64/63, 85/84, 125/121

Mapping: [1 3 4 0 6 4 1], 0 -5 -6 10 -9 -1 11]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.7807 ¢, ~6/5 = 336.8884 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.5279 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 25e, 32f

Badness (Sintel): 2.00