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The '''13-limit''' or 13-prime-limit consists of [[just intonation]] [[interval]]s such that the highest [[prime factor]] in all [[ratio]]s is 13. Thus, [[40/39]] would be within the 13-limit, since 40 is {{nowrap|2 × 2 × 2 × 5}} and 39 is {{nowrap|3 × 13}}, but [[34/33]] would not, since 34 is {{nowrap|2 × 17}}, and [[17-limit|17]] is a prime number higher than 13. The 13-limit is the 6th [[prime limit]] and is a superset of the [[11-limit]] and a subset of the [[17-limit]].

The 13-limit is a [[rank and codimension|rank-6]] system, and can be modeled in a 5-dimensional [[lattice]], with the primes 3, 5, 7, 11, and 13 represented by each dimension. The prime 2 does not appear in the typical 13-limit lattice because [[octave equivalence]] is presumed. If octave equivalence is not presumed, a sixth dimension is needed.

The 13-limit is a [[rank and codimension|rank-6]] system, and can be modeled in a 5-dimensional [[lattice]], with the primes [[3/1|3]], [[5/1|5]], [[7/1|7]], [[11/1|11]], and [[13/1|13]] represented by each dimension. The prime [[2/1|2]] does not appear in the typical 13-limit lattice because [[octave equivalence]] is presumed. If octave equivalence is not presumed, a sixth dimension is needed.

These things are contained by the 13-limit, but not the 11-limit:

* The [[13-odd-limit|13-]] and [[15-odd-limit]];

* The [[13-odd-limit|13-]] and [[15-odd-limit|15-]][[Odd limit|odd-limit]];

* Mode 7 and 8 of the harmonic or subharmonic series.

~~The~~ 13-limit ~~intervals~~ of the ~~[[2.3.~~13 ~~subgroup]], such~~ as [[~~13/12]] and [[16/13~~]]~~, are close to neutral intervals, but are further from true (hemipythagorean) neutral intervals than [[2.3.11 subgroup]] intervals, and may thus be termed "subneutral" and "superneutral"~~.

In a 13-limit system, all the ratios of the 13- or 15-odd-limit can be treated as potential [[consonance]]s.

The 13~~- or 15-odd~~-limit ~~consists~~ of ~~intervals whose numerators~~ and ~~denominators~~, ~~when all factors of two have been removed~~, are ~~less~~ than ~~or equal to 13 or 15~~, ~~respectively~~. As prime limits increase, ratios containing different primes over [[3/1|3]] in the numerator and denominator become more and more numerous. Such ratios include [[15/14]], [[14/13]], [[11/10]], [[15/13]], [[13/11]], [[14/11]], [[13/10]], [[15/11]], [[7/5]], and their [[octave complement~~]]s. In a 13-limit system, all the ratios of the 13- or 15-odd-limit can be treated as potential [[consonance~~]]s. An example of a way to use these intervals is to build {{w|tertian harmony|tertian}} triads such as [[10:13:15]], which consists of a 13/10 ultramajor third and a [[15/13]] inframinor third. ~~Another example is~~ the neogothic major and minor triads of [[22:28:33]] and [[22:26:33]], which can be tempered to the 13-odd-limit via vanishing of [[364/363]], but can also be used as they are.

The 13-limit intervals of the [[2.3.13 subgroup]], such as [[13/12]] and [[16/13]], are close to [[Neutral (interval quality)|neutral]] intervals, but are further from true ([[hemipyth]]agorean) neutral intervals than [[2.3.11 subgroup]] intervals, and thus may be termed "subneutral" and "superneutral".

As prime limits increase, ratios containing different primes over [[3/1|3]] in the numerator and denominator become more and more numerous. Such ratios include [[15/14]], [[14/13]], [[11/10]], [[15/13]], [[13/11]], [[14/11]], [[13/10]], [[15/11]], [[7/5]], and their [[octave complement]]s. An example of a way to use these intervals is to build {{w|tertian harmony|tertian}} triads such as [[10:13:15]], which consists of a 13/10 ultramajor third and a [[15/13]] inframinor third. Other examples include the [[neogothic major and minor]] triads of [[22:28:33]] and [[22:26:33]], which can be tempered to the 13-odd-limit via vanishing of [[364/363]], but can also be used as they are.

== Edo approximation ==

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 The '''13-limit''' or 13-prime-limit consists of [[just intonation]] [[interval]]s such that the highest [[prime factor]] in all [[ratio]]s is 13. Thus, [[40/39]] would be within the 13-limit, since 40 is {{nowrap|2 × 2 × 2 × 5}} and 39 is {{nowrap|3 × 13}}, but [[34/33]] would not, since 34 is {{nowrap|2 × 17}}, and [[17-limit|17]] is a prime number higher than 13. The 13-limit is the 6th [[prime limit]] and is a superset of the [[11-limit]] and a subset of the [[17-limit]].
-The 13-limit is a [[rank and codimension|rank-6]] system, and can be modeled in a 5-dimensional [[lattice]], with the primes 3, 5, 7, 11, and 13 represented by each dimension. The prime 2 does not appear in the typical 13-limit lattice because [[octave equivalence]] is presumed. If octave equivalence is not presumed, a sixth dimension is needed.
+The 13-limit is a [[rank and codimension|rank-6]] system, and can be modeled in a 5-dimensional [[lattice]], with the primes [[3/1|3]], [[5/1|5]], [[7/1|7]], [[11/1|11]], and [[13/1|13]] represented by each dimension. The prime [[2/1|2]] does not appear in the typical 13-limit lattice because [[octave equivalence]] is presumed. If octave equivalence is not presumed, a sixth dimension is needed.
 These things are contained by the 13-limit, but not the 11-limit:
-* The [[13-odd-limit|13-]] and [[15-odd-limit]];
+* The [[13-odd-limit|13-]] and [[15-odd-limit|15-]][[Odd limit|odd-limit]];
 * Mode 7 and 8 of the harmonic or subharmonic series.
-The 13-limit intervals of the [[2.3.13 subgroup]], such as [[13/12]] and [[16/13]], are close to neutral intervals, but are further from true (hemipythagorean) neutral intervals than [[2.3.11 subgroup]] intervals, and may thus be termed "subneutral" and "superneutral".
+In a 13-limit system, all the ratios of the 13- or 15-odd-limit can be treated as potential [[consonance]]s.
-The 13- or 15-odd-limit consists of intervals whose numerators and denominators, when all factors of two have been removed, are less than or equal to 13 or 15, respectively. As prime limits increase, ratios containing different primes over [[3/1|3]] in the numerator and denominator become more and more numerous. Such ratios include [[15/14]], [[14/13]], [[11/10]], [[15/13]], [[13/11]], [[14/11]], [[13/10]], [[15/11]], [[7/5]], and their [[octave complement]]s. In a 13-limit system, all the ratios of the 13- or 15-odd-limit can be treated as potential [[consonance]]s. An example of a way to use these intervals is to build {{w|tertian harmony|tertian}} triads such as [[10:13:15]], which consists of a 13/10 ultramajor third and a [[15/13]] inframinor third. Another example is the neogothic major and minor triads of [[22:28:33]] and [[22:26:33]], which can be tempered to the 13-odd-limit via vanishing of [[364/363]], but can also be used as they are.
+The 13-limit intervals of the [[2.3.13 subgroup]], such as [[13/12]] and [[16/13]], are close to [[Neutral (interval quality)|neutral]] intervals, but are further from true ([[hemipyth]]agorean) neutral intervals than [[2.3.11 subgroup]] intervals, and thus may be termed "subneutral" and "superneutral".
+As prime limits increase, ratios containing different primes over [[3/1|3]] in the numerator and denominator become more and more numerous. Such ratios include [[15/14]], [[14/13]], [[11/10]], [[15/13]], [[13/11]], [[14/11]], [[13/10]], [[15/11]], [[7/5]], and their [[octave complement]]s. An example of a way to use these intervals is to build {{w|tertian harmony|tertian}} triads such as [[10:13:15]], which consists of a 13/10 ultramajor third and a [[15/13]] inframinor third. Other examples include the [[neogothic major and minor]] triads of [[22:28:33]] and [[22:26:33]], which can be tempered to the 13-odd-limit via vanishing of [[364/363]], but can also be used as they are.
 == Edo approximation ==