8L 3s

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8L 3s is a 2/1-equivalent (octave-equivalent) moment of symmetry scale containing 8 large steps and 3 small steps, repeating every octave. 8L 3s is a child scale of 3L 5s, expanding it by 3 tones. Generators that produce this scale range from 436.4 ¢ to 450 ¢, or from 750 ¢ to 763.6 ¢. The name flanatonic has been proposed by Inthar, for "flat naiadic".

↖ 7L 2s ↑ 8L 2s 9L 2s ↗
← 7L 3s 8L 3s 9L 3s →
↙ 7L 4s ↓ 8L 4s 9L 4s ↘
Scale structure
Step pattern LLLsLLLsLLs
sLLsLLLsLLL
Equave 2/1 (1200.0 ¢)
Period 2/1 (1200.0 ¢)
Generator size
Bright 4\11 to 3\8 (436.4 ¢ to 450.0 ¢)
Dark 5\8 to 7\11 (750.0 ¢ to 763.6 ¢)
TAMNAMS information
Related to 3L 5s (checkertonic)
With tunings 1:1 to 2:1 (soft-of-basic)
Related MOS scales
Parent 3L 5s
Sister 3L 8s
Daughters 11L 8s, 8L 11s
Neutralized 5L 6s
2-Flought 19L 3s, 8L 14s
Equal tunings
Equalized (L:s = 1:1) 4\11 (436.4 ¢)
Supersoft (L:s = 4:3) 15\41 (439.0 ¢)
Soft (L:s = 3:2) 11\30 (440.0 ¢)
Semisoft (L:s = 5:3) 18\49 (440.8 ¢)
Basic (L:s = 2:1) 7\19 (442.1 ¢)
Semihard (L:s = 5:2) 17\46 (443.5 ¢)
Hard (L:s = 3:1) 10\27 (444.4 ¢)
Superhard (L:s = 4:1) 13\35 (445.7 ¢)
Collapsed (L:s = 1:0) 3\8 (450.0 ¢)
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The only significant harmonic entropy minimum with this mos pattern is sensi, in which the generator is 9/7 and two of them make a 5/3.

Scale properties

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Proposed mode names

R-4981 has proposed names based on shogi pieces.

Modes of 8L 3s
UDP Cyclic
order
Step
pattern
Shogi-based names[proposed]
10|0 1 LLLsLLLsLLs Ōshō (王将)
9|1 5 LLLsLLsLLLs Ryūō (竜王)
8|2 9 LLsLLLsLLLs Ryūma (竜馬)
7|3 2 LLsLLLsLLsL Hisha (飛車)
6|4 6 LLsLLsLLLsL Kaku (角)
5|5 10 LsLLLsLLLsL Kin (金)
4|6 3 LsLLLsLLsLL Gin (銀)
3|7 7 LsLLsLLLsLL Keima (桂馬)
2|8 11 sLLLsLLLsLL Kyo (香)
1|9 4 sLLLsLLsLLL Tokin (と金)
0|10 8 sLLsLLLsLLL Fuhyo (歩兵)

Scale tree

Scale tree and tuning spectrum of 8L 3s
Generator(edo) Cents Step ratio Comments
Bright Dark L:s Hardness
4\11 436.364 763.636 1:1 1.000 Equalized 8L 3s
23\63 438.095 761.905 6:5 1.200
19\52 438.462 761.538 5:4 1.250
34\93 438.710 761.290 9:7 1.286
15\41 439.024 760.976 4:3 1.333 Supersoft 8L 3s
41\112 439.286 760.714 11:8 1.375
26\71 439.437 760.563 7:5 1.400
37\101 439.604 760.396 10:7 1.429
11\30 440.000 760.000 3:2 1.500 Soft 8L 3s
40\109 440.367 759.633 11:7 1.571
29\79 440.506 759.494 8:5 1.600
47\128 440.625 759.375 13:8 1.625 Golden sentry (440.5922 ¢)
18\49 440.816 759.184 5:3 1.667 Semisoft 8L 3s
43\117 441.026 758.974 12:7 1.714
25\68 441.176 758.824 7:4 1.750
32\87 441.379 758.621 9:5 1.800 Clyde
7\19 442.105 757.895 2:1 2.000 Basic 8L 3s
Scales with tunings softer than this are proper
31\84 442.857 757.143 9:4 2.250 Sensei
24\65 443.077 756.923 7:3 2.333
41\111 443.243 756.757 12:5 2.400 Warrior
17\46 443.478 756.522 5:2 2.500 Semihard 8L 3s
Sensi (optimal around here)
44\119 443.697 756.303 13:5 2.600 Golden sensi
27\73 443.836 756.164 8:3 2.667
37\100 444.000 756.000 11:4 2.750
10\27 444.444 755.556 3:1 3.000 Hard 8L 3s
33\89 444.944 755.056 10:3 3.333
23\62 445.161 754.839 7:2 3.500
36\97 445.361 754.639 11:3 3.667
13\35 445.714 754.286 4:1 4.000 Superhard 8L 3s
29\78 446.154 753.846 9:2 4.500
16\43 446.512 753.488 5:1 5.000
19\51 447.059 752.941 6:1 6.000
3\8 450.000 750.000 1:0 → ∞ Collapsed 8L 3s


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