No-threes subgroup temperaments: Difference between revisions

ported Huntington and Silver from Chromatic pairs
moved 2.5.p temperaments from chromatic pairs
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* Mercy ([[823543/819200]]) → [[Quince clan #Mercy|Quince clan]]
* Mercy ([[823543/819200]]) → [[Quince clan #Mercy|Quince clan]]
* Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe ([[4194304/4117715]]) → [[Llywelynsmic clan #Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe|Llywelynsmic clan]]
* Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe ([[4194304/4117715]]) → [[Llywelynsmic clan #Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe|Llywelynsmic clan]]
=== Rainy ===
Three generators make an [[8/7]]; five generators make a [[5/4]]. This is the no-threes version of [[tertiaseptal]] (and [[valentine]]). Rainy is notable theoretically as it equates ([[2/1]])/([[5/4]])<sup>3</sup> (128/125, the lesser diesis) with ([[2/1]])/([[8/7]])<sup>5</sup> (the 2.7-subgroup [[cloudy comma]], which is similar to the 2.5-subgroup lesser diesis in that tempering it out tunes the 8/7 about 8.8{{cent}} sharp, while tempering out 128/125 similarly sharpens the 5/4 by about 13.7{{cent}}). By tempering out their difference, stacked 5s and stacked 7s become easier to navigate, using the general-purpose diesis to simplify clusters. (Note that this analysis assumes a [[lattice]]-based conceptualization of [[JI]] which is often called "stacking-based"; see [[taxonomies of xen approaches]].)
A highly notable tuning of rainy not shown here is [[311edo]], which is 140+171 so tuned between them.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7
[[Comma list]]: [[2100875/2097152]]
[[Sval]] [[mapping]]: [{{val| 1 2 3 }}, {{val| 0 5 -3 }}]
[[Gencom]]: [2 256/245; 2100875/2097152]
[[Gencom]] [[mapping]]: [{{val| 1 0 2 3 }}, {{val| 0 0 5 -3 }}]
Optimal tuning ([[POTE]]): ~256/245 = 77.205
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 31, 47, 78, 109, 140, 171, 202, 233 }}
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.0586 cents


=== Frostburn ===
=== Frostburn ===
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 6, 23de, 29, 35, 41 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 6, 23de, 29, 35, 41 }}
=== Mabilic ===
{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Mabilic }}
Given below is the no-three version of [[Mabila family#Semabila|semabila]], or equivalently the no-threes version of [[Magic family#Trismegistus|trismegistus]]. It is the 7 &amp; 9 temperament in the [[2.5.7 subgroup]], and tempers out [[1071875/1048576]], the mabilisma.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 1071875/1048576
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 5 | 0 3 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 1 5 | 0 0 3 -5 }}
: [[gencom]]: [2 175/128; 1071875/1048576]
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~175/128 = 527.236
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 9, 16, 25, 41, 66, 305bc }}
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.7729 cents
=== Rainy ===
Three generators make an [[8/7]]; five generators make a [[5/4]]. This is the no-threes version of [[tertiaseptal]] (and [[valentine]]). Rainy is notable theoretically as it equates ([[2/1]])/([[5/4]])<sup>3</sup> (128/125, the lesser diesis) with ([[2/1]])/([[8/7]])<sup>5</sup> (the 2.7-subgroup [[cloudy comma]], which is similar to the 2.5-subgroup lesser diesis in that tempering it out tunes the 8/7 about 8.8{{cent}} sharp, while tempering out 128/125 similarly sharpens the 5/4 by about 13.7{{cent}}). By tempering out their difference, stacked 5s and stacked 7s become easier to navigate, using the general-purpose diesis to simplify clusters. (Note that this analysis assumes a [[lattice]]-based conceptualization of [[JI]] which is often called "stacking-based"; see [[taxonomies of xen approaches]].)
A highly notable tuning of rainy not shown here is [[311edo]], which is 140+171 so tuned between them.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7
[[Comma list]]: [[2100875/2097152]]
[[Sval]] [[mapping]]: [{{val| 1 2 3 }}, {{val| 0 5 -3 }}]
[[Gencom]]: [2 256/245; 2100875/2097152]
[[Gencom]] [[mapping]]: [{{val| 1 0 2 3 }}, {{val| 0 0 5 -3 }}]
Optimal tuning ([[POTE]]): ~256/245 = 77.205
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 31, 47, 78, 109, 140, 171, 202, 233 }}
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.0586 cents


=== French decimal ===
=== French decimal ===
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|382, 1025, 1407, 1789, 3196}}, ...
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|382, 1025, 1407, 1789, 3196}}, ...
=== Augment ===
{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Augment }}
Augment is related to [[augmented]].
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7.11
[[Comma list]]: 56/55, 128/125
{{Mapping|legend=2| 3 7 0 2 | 0 0 1 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=3| 3 0 7 9 11| 0 0 0 -1 -1 }}
: [[gencom]]: [5/4 8/7; 56/55 128/125]
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~5/4 = 1\3, ~8/7 = 228.275
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 6, 9, 15, 21 }}
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 2.422 cents


=== Ostara ===
=== Ostara ===
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 9, 16, 25, 41e, 66ee }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 9, 16, 25, 41e, 66ee }}
=== Wizz ===
{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Wizz }}
Wizz, the 6 &amp; 16 temperament in the 2.5.11 subgroup, is related to [[wizard]].
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.11
[[Comma list]]: [[15625/15488]]
{{Mapping|legend=2| 2 0 -7 | 0 1 3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=3| 2 0 4 0 5 | 0 0 1 0 3 }}
: [[gencom]]: [125/88 5/4; 15625/15488]
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~125/88 = 1\2, ~5/4 = 383.768
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 6, 16, 22, 28, 50, 122, 172, 222 }}
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.3997


=== Insect ===
=== Insect ===
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|9, 13, 22, 97e, 119e, 141e, 163e, 304ceee}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|9, 13, 22, 97e, 119e, 141e, 163e, 304ceee}}


=== Superquintal ===
=== Sephiroth ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.13
{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Sephiroth }}
 
Sephiroth is the no-7 restriction of [[muggles]].
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.11.13.17
 
[[Comma list]]: 65/64, 170/169, 221/220
 
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 15 6 11 | 0 1 -5 -1 -3 }}


[[Comma list]]: 64000000/62748517
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 2 0 5 4 5 | 0 0 1 0 -5 -1 -3 }}


{{Mapping|legend=2|1 5 6|0 -7 -6}}
: [[gencom]]: [2 5/4; 65/64 170/169 221/220]


: Mapping generators, ~2, ~13/10
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 372.236


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~13/10 = 459.281
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 13, 16, 29 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|8, 13, 21, 34, 81, 115}}
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.774 cents


=== Trader ===
=== Trader ===
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|3, 20c, 23c, 26c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|3, 20c, 23c, 26c}}
=== Superquintal ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.13
[[Comma list]]: 64000000/62748517
{{Mapping|legend=2|1 5 6|0 -7 -6}}
: Mapping generators, ~2, ~13/10
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~13/10 = 459.281
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|8, 13, 21, 34, 81, 115}}


=== Vengeance ===
=== Vengeance ===