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{{Wikipedia|Perfect fifth}}
{{Wikipedia|Perfect fifth}}


'''3/2''', the '''just perfect fifth''', is the second largest [[superparticular]] [[interval]], spanning the distance between the 2nd and 3rd [[harmonic]]s. It is an interval with low [[harmonic entropy]], and therefore high [[consonance]].
'''3/2''', the '''just perfect fifth''', is a very [[consonance|consonant]] interval, due to the numerator and denominator of its ratio being very small numbers. Only the [[2/1|octave]] and the [[3/1|compound fifth]] have smaller numbers.


== Properties ==
== Properties ==
On a harmonic [[instrument]] (''see [[timbre]]''), the third harmonic is usually the loudest one that is not an octave double of the [[fundamental]], with 3/2 itself being the [[octave reduced]] form of this interval.  
For harmonic [[timbre|timbres]], the loudest harmonics are usually the second and third ones (2/1 and 3/1). 3/2 is the interval between these two harmonics (which incidentally makes 3/2 [[superparticular]]). Thus 3/2 is easy to tune by ear, and it's easy to hear if it's mistuned.  


In composition, the presence of perfect fifths can provide a "ground" upon which unusual intervals may be placed while still sounding structurally coherent. Given this, systems excluding perfect fifths can sound more "[[xenharmonic]]".
== Usage ==
Variations of the perfect fifth (whether [[just]] or tempered) appear in most [[Approaches to musical tuning|music of the world]]. [[Historical temperaments|Historically]], European music treated the perfect fifth as consonant long before it treated the major third—specifically [[5/4]]—as consonant. In the present day, the dominant tuning [[12edo]] approximates 3/2 very accurately.


== Usage ==
A [[Chain of fifths|chain of just perfect fifths]] generates [[Pythagorean tuning]]. The chain continues indefinitely and theoretically never returns to the starting note. A chain that ends at seven notes generates the historically important [[Wikipedia:Diatonic scale #Iteration of the fifth|Pythagorean diatonic scale]]. This scale is also the 7 natural notes of all "pyth-spine" notations, in which all uninflected notes are pythogorean, such as [[HEJI]], [[Sagittal notation|Sagittal]], [[Ups and downs notation|ups and downs]], [[FJS]] and [[color notation]].
Variations of the perfect fifth (whether [[just]] or not) appear in most [[Approaches to musical tuning|music of the world]]. Treatment of the perfect fifth as consonant [[Historical temperaments|historically precedes]] treatment of the major third—specifically [[5/4]]—as consonant. 3/2 is the simplest [[just intonation]] interval to be very well approximated by [[12edo]], after the [[octave]].


Producing a [[Chain of fifths|chain of just perfect fifths]] yields [[Pythagorean tuning]]. Since log<sub>2</sub>(3) is an irrational number, a chain of just fifths continues indefinitely and will never returns to the starting note in either direction. Nevertheless, even in xenharmonic circles, the common label "perfect" for this interval retains value in at least some of the [[moment of symmetry]] scales created by this tuning&mdash;specifically in the [[TAMNAMS]] system – due to it being an interval that can be thought of as a multiple of the [[period]] plus or minus 0 or 1 [[generator]]s. An example of such a scale is the familiar [[Wikipedia:Diatonic scale #Iteration of the fifth|Pythagorean diatonic scale]].
Music using unusual intervals can be very disorienting. The presence of perfect fifths can provide a "ground" that make it less so. Some composers deliberately use tunings that lack fifths, to make their music sound more [[xenharmonic]].


=== In regular temperament theory ===
=== In regular temperament theory ===
3/2 plays a significant role in many [[regular temperament]]s. What follows are some prominent examples, not an exhaustive coverage.
Because 3/2 has very low [[harmonic entropy]], it is still recognizable even when heavily tempered. Often it is tempered so that an octave-reduced stack of fourths or fifths approximates some other interval. Some examples:


[[Meantone]] temperaments flatten the perfect fifth such that the major third generated by four fifths upward be closer to 5/4&mdash;or, in the case of [[quarter-comma meantone]] (see also [[31edo]]), identical. In such systems, and in common practice theory, the perfect fifth consists of four diatonic [[semitone]]s and three chromatic semitones. In [[12edo]], and hence in most discussions these days, this is simplified to seven semitones, which is fitting seeing as 12edo is a system which flattens the perfect fifth by about 2 cents so that the circle close at 12 tones. On the other hand, in [[5-limit]] just intonation, the just perfect fifth consists of four just diatonic semitones of [[16/15]], three just chromatic semitones of [[25/24]], and two syntonic commas of [[81/80]].
[[Meantone]] temperament flattens the fifth from just such that the major third generated by stacking four fifths is closer to (or even identical to) 5/4. The minor 3rd generated by stacking three fourths is closer to 6/5.


There are also [[superpyth]] (or "superpythagorean") temperaments, which ''sharpen'' the fifth from just so that the interval generated by four fifths upwards is closer to 9/7 and the interval generated by three fifths downnward is closer to 7/6. This also means that intervals such as A&ndash;G or C&ndash;B&#x266D; approximate 7/4 instead of 9/5.
[[Superpyth]] temperaments ''sharpen'' the fifth from just so that the major third is closer to 9/7 and the minor third is closer to 7/6. Thus the minor 7th 16/9 approximates 7/4 instead of 9/5.


Then there is the possibility of [[schismatic]] temperaments, which flatten the perfect fifth such that an approximated 5/4 is generated by stacking eight fifths downwards; however, without a [[notation]] system that properly accounts for the syntonic comma (such as [[ups and downs notation]] or [[Syntonic-Rastmic Subchroma notation]]), the 5/4 will be invariably classified as a diminished fourth due to being enharmonic with [[8192/6561]], and this in turn results in common chords such as conventional [[Wikipedia: Major chord|major]] and [[Wikipedia: Minor chord|minor]] triads being awkward to notate.
[[Schismatic]] temperament flattens the fifth very slightly such that the ''diminished'' fourth generated by stacking eight fourths approximates 5/4. Thus a triad with 5/4 is written as C F♭ G (unless the notation has accidentals for [[81/80]], e.g. C vE G).


== Approximations by edos ==
== Approximations by edos ==
Some [[edo]] tunings which have better (in terms of closeness to just intonation) approximations of the perfect fifth than in 12edo are [[29edo]], [[41edo]], and [[53edo]]. Of the aforementioned systems, 53edo is particularly noteworthy in regards to [[telicity]] as while 12edo is a 2-strong 3-2 [[telic]] system, 53edo is a 3-strong 3-2 telic system.
12edo approximates 3/2 to within only 2¢. [[29edo]], [[41edo]] and [[53edo]] are even more accurate. In regards to [[telicity]], while 12edo is a 2-strong 3-2 [[telic]] system, 53edo is notably a 3-strong 3-2 telic system.


The following edos (up to 200) contain good approximations<ref>error magnitude below 7, both, absolute (in ¢) and relative (in r¢)</ref> of the interval 3/2. Errors are given by magnitude, the arrows in the table show if the edo representation is sharp (&uarr;) or flat (&darr;).
The following edos (up to 200) approximate 3/2 to within both 7¢ and 7%. Errors are unsigned so that the table can be sorted by them. The arrow column indicates a sharp (&uarr;) or flat (&darr;) fifth.


{| class="wikitable sortable right-1 center-2 right-3 right-4 center-5"
{| class="wikitable sortable right-1 center-2 right-3 right-4 center-5"
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! class="unsortable" | deg\edo
! class="unsortable" | deg\edo
! Absolute<br>Error ([[Cent|¢]])
! Absolute<br>Error ([[Cent|¢]])
! Relative<br>Error ([[Relative cent|r¢]])
! Relative
Error (%)
! &#8597;
! &#8597;
! class="unsortable" | Equally acceptable multiples <ref>Super-edos up to 200 within the same error tolerance</ref>
! class="unsortable" | Equally accurate
multiples
|-
|-
|  [[12edo|12]]  ||  7\12  || 1.9550 || 1.9550 || &darr; || [[24edo|14\24]], [[36edo|21\36]]
|  [[12edo|12]]  ||  7\12  || 1.955 || 1.955 ||&darr; || [[24edo|14\24]], [[36edo|21\36]]
|-
|-
|  [[17edo|17]]  ||  10\17  || 3.9274 || 5.5637 || &uarr; ||  
|  [[17edo|17]]  ||  10\17  || 3.927 || 5.564 ||&uarr; ||  
|-
|-
|  [[29edo|29]]  ||  17\29  || 1.4933 || 3.6087 || &uarr; ||  
|  [[29edo|29]]  ||  17\29  || 1.493 || 3.609 ||&uarr; ||  
|-
|-
|  [[41edo|41]]  ||  24\41  || 0.4840 || 1.6537 || &uarr; || [[82edo|48\82]], [[123edo|72\123]], [[164edo|96\164]]
|  [[41edo|41]]  ||  24\41  || 0.484 || 1.654 ||&uarr; || [[82edo|48\82]], [[123edo|72\123]], [[164edo|96\164]]
|-
|-
|  [[53edo|53]]  ||  31\53  || 0.0682 || 0.3013 || &darr; || [[106edo|62\106]], [[159edo|93\159]]
|  [[53edo|53]]  ||  31\53  || 0.068 || 0.301 ||&darr; || [[106edo|62\106]], [[159edo|93\159]]
|-
|-
|  [[65edo|65]]  ||  38\65  || 0.4165 || 2.2563 || &darr; || [[130edo|76\130]], [[195edo|114\195]]
|  [[65edo|65]]  ||  38\65  || 0.416 || 2.256 ||&darr; || [[130edo|76\130]], [[195edo|114\195]]
|-
|-
|  [[70edo|70]]  ||  41\70  || 0.9021 || 5.2625 || &uarr; ||  
|  [[70edo|70]]  ||  41\70  || 0.902 || 5.262 ||&uarr; ||  
|-
|-
|  [[77edo|77]]  ||  45\77  || 0.6563 || 4.2113 || &darr; ||  
|  [[77edo|77]]  ||  45\77  || 0.656 || 4.211 ||&darr; ||  
|-
|-
|  [[89edo|89]]  ||  52\89  || 0.8314 || 6.1663 || &darr; ||  
|  [[89edo|89]]  ||  52\89  || 0.831 || 6.166 ||&darr; ||  
|-
|-
|  [[94edo|94]]  ||  55\94  || 0.1727 || 1.3525 || &uarr; || [[188edo|110\188]]
|  [[94edo|94]]  ||  55\94  || 0.173 || 1.352 ||&uarr; || [[188edo|110\188]]
|-
|-
| [[111edo|111]] ||  65\111 || 0.7477 || 6.9162 || &uarr; ||  
| [[111edo|111]] ||  65\111 || 0.748 || 6.916 ||&uarr; ||  
|-
|-
| [[118edo|118]] ||  69\118 || 0.2601 || 2.5575 || &darr; ||  
| [[118edo|118]] ||  69\118 || 0.260 || 2.557 ||&darr; ||  
|-
|-
| [[135edo|135]] ||  79\135 || 0.2672 || 3.0062 || &uarr; ||  
| [[135edo|135]] ||  79\135 || 0.267 || 3.006 ||&uarr; ||  
|-
|-
| [[142edo|142]] ||  83\142 || 0.5466 || 6.4675 || &darr; ||  
| [[142edo|142]] ||  83\142 || 0.547 || 6.467 ||&darr; ||  
|-
|-
| [[147edo|147]] ||  86\147 || 0.0858 || 1.0512 || &uarr; ||  
| [[147edo|147]] ||  86\147 || 0.086 || 1.051 ||&uarr; ||  
|-
|-
| [[171edo|171]] || 100\171 || 0.2006 || 2.8588 || &darr; ||  
| [[171edo|171]] || 100\171 || 0.200 || 2.859 ||&darr; ||  
|-
|-
| [[176edo|176]] || 103\176 || 0.3177 || 4.6600 || &uarr; ||  
| [[176edo|176]] || 103\176 || 0.318 || 4.660 ||&uarr; ||  
|-
|-
| [[183edo|183]] || 107\183 || 0.3157 || 4.8138 || &darr; ||  
| [[183edo|183]] || 107\183 || 0.316 || 4.814 ||&darr; ||  
|-
|-
| [[200edo|200]] || 117\200 || 0.0450 || 0.7500 || &uarr; ||  
| [[200edo|200]] || 117\200 || 0.045 || 0.750 ||&uarr; ||  
|}
|}
 
Edos can be classified by their approximation of 3/2 as:
<references/>
*'''Superflat''' edos have fifths narrower than 4\7 = ~686¢
*'''Perfect''' edos have fifths of exactly 4\7
*'''Diatonic''' edos have fifths between 4\7 and 3\5 = 720¢
*'''Pentatonic''' have fifths of exactly 3\5
*'''Supersharp''' edos have fifths wider than 3\5
{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|+ Comparison of edo approximations of 3/2 and "fifth classes" (from 5edo to 31edo)
|+Comparison of the fifths of edos 5 to 31
! Edo
! Edo
! Degree
! Degree
! Cents
! Cents
! Fifth Category
! Edo Category
! Error (¢)
! Error (¢)
|-
|-
| [[5edo]]
|[[5edo]]
| 3\5
| 3\5
| 720.000
| 720.000
| pentatonic edo
| pentatonic edo
| +18.045
| +18.045
|-
|-
| [[7edo]]
|[[7edo]]
| 4\7
| 4\7
| 685.714
| 685.714
| perfect edo
| perfect edo
| -16.241
| -16.241
|-
|-
| [[8edo]]
|[[8edo]]
| 5\8
| 5\8
| 750.000
| 750.000
| supersharp edo
| supersharp edo
| +48.045
| +48.045
|-
|-
| [[9edo]]
|[[9edo]]
| 5\9
| 5\9
| 666.667
| 666.667
| superflat edo
| superflat edo
| -35.288
| -35.288
|-
|-
| [[10edo]]
|[[10edo]]
| 6\10
| 6\10
| 720.000
| 720.000
| pentatonic edo
| pentatonic edo
| +18.045
| +18.045
|-
|-
| [[11edo]]
|[[11edo]]
| 6\11
| 6\11
| 654.545
| 654.545
| superflat edo
| superflat edo
| -47.41
| -47.41
|-
|-
| [[12edo]]
|[[12edo]]
| 7\12
| 7\12
| 700.000
| 700.000
| diatonic edo
| diatonic edo
| -1.955
| -1.955
|-
|-
| [[13edo]]
|[[13edo]]
| 8\13
| 8\13
| 738.462
| 738.462
| supersharp edo
| supersharp edo
| +36.507
| +36.507
|-
|-
| [[14edo]]
|[[14edo]]
| 8\14
| 8\14
| 685.714
| 685.714
| perfect edo
| perfect edo
| -16.241
| -16.241
|-
|-
| [[15edo]]
|[[15edo]]
| 9\15
| 9\15
| 720.000
| 720.000
| pentatonic edo
| pentatonic edo
| +18.045
| +18.045
|-
|-
| [[16edo]]
|[[16edo]]
| 9\16
| 9\16
| 675.000
| 675.000
| superflat edo
| superflat edo
| -26.955
| -26.955
|-
|-
| [[17edo]]
|[[17edo]]
| 10\17
| 10\17
| 705.882
| 705.882
| diatonic edo
| diatonic edo
| +3.927
| +3.927
|-
|-
| [[18edo]]
|[[18edo]]
| 11\18
| 11\18
| 733.333
| 733.333
| supersharp edo
| supersharp edo
| +31.378
| +31.378
|-
|-
| [[19edo]]
|[[19edo]]
| 11\19
| 11\19
| 694.737
| 694.737
| diatonic edo
| diatonic edo
| -7.218
| -7.218
|-
|-
| [[20edo]]
|[[20edo]]
| 12\20
| 12\20
| 720.000
| 720.000
| pentatonic edo
| pentatonic edo
| +18.045
| +18.045
|-
|-
| [[21edo]]
|[[21edo]]
| 12\21
| 12\21
| 685.714
| 685.714
| perfect edo
| perfect edo
| -16.241
| -16.241
|-
|-
| [[22edo]]
|[[22edo]]
| 13\22
| 13\22
| 709.091
| 709.091
| diatonic edo
| diatonic edo
| +7.136
| +7.136
|-
|-
| [[23edo]]
|[[23edo]]
| 13\23
| 13\23
| 678.261
| 678.261
| superflat edo
| superflat edo
| -23.694
| -23.694
|-
|-
| [[24edo]]
|[[24edo]]
| 14\24
| 14\24
| 700.000
| 700.000
| diatonic edo
| diatonic edo
| -1.955
| -1.955
|-
|-
| [[25edo]]
|[[25edo]]
| 15\25
| 15\25
| 720.000
| 720.000
| pentatonic edo
| pentatonic edo
| +18.045
| +18.045
|-
|-
| [[26edo]]
|[[26edo]]
| 15\26
| 15\26
| 692.308
| 692.308
| diatonic edo
| diatonic edo
| -9.647
| -9.647
|-
|-
| [[27edo]]
|[[27edo]]
| 16\27
| 16\27
| 711.111
| 711.111
| diatonic edo
| diatonic edo
| +9.156
| +9.156
|-
|-
| [[28edo]]
|[[28edo]]
| 16\28
| 16\28
| 685.714
| 685.714
| perfect edo
| perfect edo
| -16.241
| -16.241
|-
|-
| [[29edo]]
|[[29edo]]
| 17\29
| 17\29
| 703.448
| 703.448
| diatonic edo
| diatonic edo
| +1.493
| +1.493
|-
|-
| [[30edo]]
|[[30edo]]
| 17\30
| 17\30
| 720.000
| 720.000
| pentatonic edo
| pentatonic edo
| +18.045
| +18.045
|-
|-
| [[31edo]]
|[[31edo]]
| 18\31
| 18\31
| 696.774
| 696.774
| diatonic edo
| diatonic edo
| -5.181
| -5.181
|}
|}


* The many and various 3/2 approximations in different edos can be classified as (after [[Kite Giedraitis]]):
**  
** '''Superflat''' edos have fifths narrower than 686 cents.
** '''Perfect''' or '''heptatonic''' edos have fifths 685{{frac|4|7}} cents wide (and 4/7 steps).
** '''Diatonic''' edos have fifths between 685{{frac|4|7}} and 720 cents wide.
** '''Pentatonic''' have fifths exactly 720 cents wide.
** '''Supersharp''' edos have fifths wider than 720 cents.


== See also ==
== See also ==
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