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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
23edo is significant in that it is the last edo that has no [[5L 2s|diatonic]] perfect fifths and not even [[5edo]] or [[7edo]] fifths. It is also the last edo that fails to approximate the [[3/1|3rd]], [[5/1|5th]], [[7/1|7th]], and [[11/1|11th]] [[harmonic]]s within 20 cents, which makes it well-suited for musicians seeking to explore harmonic territory that is unusual even for the average microtonalist. Oddly, despite the fact that it fails to approximate these harmonics, it approximates the intervals between them ([[5/3]], [[7/3]], [[11/3]], [[7/5]], [[11/5]], [[11/7]]) and combinations of them ([[15/8]], [[21/16]], [[33/32]], [[35/32]], [[55/32]], [[77/64]]) very well. The lowest harmonics well-approximated by 23edo are [[9/1|9]], [[13/1|13]], [[15/1|15]], [[17/1|17]], [[21/1|21]], [[23/1|23]], [[31/1|31]], [[33/1|33]] and [[35/1|35]]. | 23edo is significant in that it is the last edo that has no [[5L 2s|diatonic]] perfect fifths and not even [[5edo]] or [[7edo]] fifths. It is also the last edo that fails to approximate the [[3/1|3rd]], [[5/1|5th]], [[7/1|7th]], and [[11/1|11th]] [[harmonic]]s within 20 cents, which makes it well-suited for musicians seeking to explore harmonic territory that is unusual even for the average microtonalist. Oddly, despite the fact that it fails to approximate these harmonics, it approximates the intervals between them ([[5/3]], [[7/3]], [[11/3]], [[7/5]], [[11/5]], [[11/7]]) and combinations of them ([[15/8]], [[21/16]], [[33/32]], [[35/32]], [[55/32]], [[77/64]]) very well. In this sense, it can be thought of as every other step of [[46edo]]. The lowest harmonics well-approximated by 23edo are [[9/1|9]], [[13/1|13]], [[15/1|15]], [[17/1|17]], [[21/1|21]], [[23/1|23]], [[31/1|31]], [[33/1|33]] and [[35/1|35]]. | ||
=== Mapping === | === Mapping === | ||
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=== Odd harmonics === | === Odd harmonics === | ||
{{Harmonics in equal|23}} | {{Harmonics in equal|23}} | ||
=== Subsets and supersets === | === Subsets and supersets === | ||
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23edo was proposed by ethnomusicologist {{w|Erich von Hornbostel}} as the result of continuing a circle of "blown" fifths of ~678-cent fifths that (he argued) resulted from "overblowing" a bamboo pipe. | 23edo was proposed by ethnomusicologist {{w|Erich von Hornbostel}} as the result of continuing a circle of "blown" fifths of ~678-cent fifths that (he argued) resulted from "overblowing" a bamboo pipe. | ||
== | == Intervals == | ||
{ | {| class="wikitable center-1 right-2 left-10" | ||
|- | |||
! [[Degree]] | |||
! [[Cent]]s | |||
! Approximate Ratios* | |||
! Comments | |||
|- | |||
| 0 | |||
| 0.0 | |||
| [[1/1]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 52.2 | |||
| [[33/32]], [[34/33]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 2 | |||
| 104.3 | |||
| [[17/16]], [[16/15]], [[18/17]] | |||
| Less than 1 cent off [[17/16]] | |||
|- | |||
| 3 | |||
| 156.5 | |||
| [[11/10]], [[12/11]], [[35/32]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 4 | |||
| 208.7 | |||
| [[9/8]], [[44/39]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| 260.9 | |||
| [[7/6]], [[15/13]], [[29/25]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 6 | |||
| 313.0 | |||
| [[6/5]] | |||
| Much better 6/5 than 12-edo | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| 365.2 | |||
| [[16/13]], [[21/17]], [[26/21]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 8 | |||
| 417.4 | |||
| [[14/11]], [[33/26]] | |||
| Practically just 14/11 | |||
|- | |||
| 9 | |||
| 469.6 | |||
| [[21/16]], [[17/13]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 10 | |||
| 521.7 | |||
| [[23/17]], [[27/20]], [[88/65]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| 573.9 | |||
| [[7/5]], [[32/23]], [[46/33]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 12 | |||
| 626.1 | |||
| [[10/7]], [[23/16]], [[33/23]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| 678.3 | |||
| [[34/23]], [[40/27]], [[65/44]] | |||
| Great Hornbostel generator | |||
|- | |||
| 14 | |||
| 730.4 | |||
| [[32/21]], [[26/17]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 15 | |||
| 782.6 | |||
| [[11/7]], [[52/33]] | |||
| Practically just [[11/7]] | |||
|- | |||
| 16 | |||
| 834.8 | |||
| [[13/8]], [[34/21]], [[21/13]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| 887.0 | |||
| [[5/3]] | |||
| Much better [[5/3]] than 12-edo | |||
|- | |||
| 18 | |||
| 939.1 | |||
| [[12/7]], [[26/15]], [[50/29]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 19 | |||
| 991.3 | |||
| [[16/9]], [[39/22]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 20 | |||
| 1043.5 | |||
| [[11/6]], [[20/11]], [[64/35]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 21 | |||
| 1095.7 | |||
| [[15/8]], [[17/9]], [[32/17]] | |||
| Less than 1 cent off 32/17 | |||
|- | |||
| 22 | |||
| 1147.8 | |||
| [[33/17]], [[64/33]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 23 | |||
| 1200.0 | |||
| [[2/1]] | |||
| | |||
|} | |||
*Based on treating 23edo as a 2.9.15.21.33.13.17 subgroup temperament; other approaches are possible. | |||
== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
===Conventional notation === | ===Conventional notation === | ||
{{Mavila}} | |||
===Sagittal notation=== | ===Sagittal notation=== | ||
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This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as EDOs [[28edo#Sagittal notation|28]] and [[33edo#Sagittal notation|33]]. | This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as EDOs [[28edo#Sagittal notation|28]] and [[33edo#Sagittal notation|33]]. | ||
{{Sagittal chart|}} | |||
====Second-best fifth notation==== | ====Second-best fifth notation==== | ||
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as EDOs [[30edo#Sagittal notation|30]], [[37edo#Sagittal notation|37]], and [[44edo#Sagittal notation|44]]. | This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as EDOs [[30edo#Sagittal notation|30]], [[37edo#Sagittal notation|37]], and [[44edo#Sagittal notation|44]]. | ||
{{Sagittal chart||23b}} | |||
=== Armodue notation === | === Armodue notation === | ||
Armodue notation is a nonatonic notation that uses the numbers 1-9 as note names. | Armodue notation is a nonatonic notation that uses the numbers 1-9 as note names. | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all right- | {| class="wikitable center-all right-2" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! # | ||
! [[Cent]]s | ! [[Cent]]s | ||
! colspan="2" | Major wider <br> than minor | ! colspan="2" | Major wider <br> than minor | ||
! colspan="2" | Major narrower <br> than minor | ! colspan="2" | Major narrower <br> than minor | ||
! Armodue <br> Notation | ! Armodue <br> Notation | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
| 0. | | 0.0 | ||
| P1 || D | | P1 || D | ||
| P1 || D | | P1 || D | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 52. | | 52.2 | ||
| A1 || D# | | A1 || D# | ||
| d1 || Db | | d1 || Db | ||
| 2b | | 2b | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 2 | | 2 | ||
| 104. | | 104.3 | ||
| d2 || Eb | | d2 || Eb | ||
| A2 || E# | | A2 || E# | ||
| 1# | | 1# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 3 | | 3 | ||
| 156. | | 156.5 | ||
| m2 || E | | m2 || E | ||
| M2 || E | | M2 || E | ||
| 2 | | 2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 4 | | 4 | ||
| 208. | | 208.7 | ||
| M2 || E# | | M2 || E# | ||
| m2 || Eb | | m2 || Eb | ||
| 3b | | 3b | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 5 | | 5 | ||
| 260. | | 260.9 | ||
| A2, d3 || Ex, Fbb | | A2, d3 || Ex, Fbb | ||
| d2, A3 || Ebb, Fx | | d2, A3 || Ebb, Fx | ||
| 2# | | 2# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 6 | | 6 | ||
| 313. | | 313.0 | ||
| m3 || Fb | | m3 || Fb | ||
| M3 || F# | | M3 || F# | ||
| 3 | | 3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 7 | | 7 | ||
| 365. | | 365.2 | ||
| M3 || F | | M3 || F | ||
| m3 || F | | m3 || F | ||
| 4b | | 4b | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 8 | | 8 | ||
| 417. | | 417.4 | ||
| A3 || F# | | A3 || F# | ||
| d3 || Fb | | d3 || Fb | ||
| 3# | | 3# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 9 | | 9 | ||
| 469. | | 469.6 | ||
| d4 || Gb | | d4 || Gb | ||
| A4 || G# | | A4 || G# | ||
| 4 | | 4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 521. | | 521.7 | ||
| P4 || G | | P4 || G | ||
| P4 || G | | P4 || G | ||
| 5 | | 5 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 11 | | 11 | ||
| 573. | | 573.9 | ||
| A4 || G# | | A4 || G# | ||
| d4 || Gb | | d4 || Gb | ||
| 6b | | 6b | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 12 | | 12 | ||
| 626. | | 626.1 | ||
| d5 || Ab | | d5 || Ab | ||
| A5 || A# | | A5 || A# | ||
| 5# | | 5# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 13 | | 13 | ||
| 678. | | 678.3 | ||
| P5 || A | | P5 || A | ||
| P5 || A | | P5 || A | ||
| 6 | | 6 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 14 | | 14 | ||
| 730. | | 730.4 | ||
| A5 || A# | | A5 || A# | ||
| d5 || Ab | | d5 || Ab | ||
| 7b | | 7b | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 15 | | 15 | ||
| 782. | | 782.6 | ||
| d6 || Bb | | d6 || Bb | ||
| A6 || B# | | A6 || B# | ||
| 6# | | 6# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 16 | | 16 | ||
| 834. | | 834.8 | ||
| m6 || B | | m6 || B | ||
| M6 || B | | M6 || B | ||
| 7 | | 7 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 17 | | 17 | ||
| | | 887.0 | ||
| M6 || B# | | M6 || B# | ||
| m6 || Bb | | m6 || Bb | ||
| 8b | | 8b | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 18 | | 18 | ||
| 939. | | 939.1 | ||
| A6, d7 || Bx, Cbb | | A6, d7 || Bx, Cbb | ||
| d6, A7 || Bbb, Cx | | d6, A7 || Bbb, Cx | ||
| 7# | | 7# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 19 | | 19 | ||
| 991. | | 991.3 | ||
| m7 || Cb | | m7 || Cb | ||
| M7 || C# | | M7 || C# | ||
| 8 | | 8 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 20 | | 20 | ||
| 1043. | | 1043.5 | ||
| M7 || C | | M7 || C | ||
| m7 || C | | m7 || C | ||
| 9b | | 9b | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 21 | | 21 | ||
| 1095. | | 1095.7 | ||
| A7 || C# | | A7 || C# | ||
| d7 || Cb | | d7 || Cb | ||
| 8# | | 8# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 22 | | 22 | ||
| 1147. | | 1147.8 | ||
| d8 || Db | | d8 || Db | ||
| A8 || D# | | A8 || D# | ||
| 9 | | 9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 23 | | 23 | ||
| 1200. | | 1200.0 | ||
| P8 || D | | P8 || D | ||
| P8 || D | | P8 || D | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
|} | |} | ||
[[File:Ciclo_Icositrifonía.png|alt=Ciclo Icositrifonía.png|491x490px|link=Harmony_of_23edo]] | [[File:Ciclo_Icositrifonía.png|alt=Ciclo Icositrifonía.png|491x490px|link=Harmony_of_23edo]] | ||
== Approximation to irrational intervals == | == Approximation to irrational intervals == | ||
23edo has good approximations of [[acoustic phi]] on 16\23, and [[pi]] on 38\23. Not until [[72edo|72]] do we find a better edo in terms of absolute error, and not until [[749edo|749]] do we find one in terms of relative error. | |||
23edo has | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
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|} | |} | ||
== Approximation to JI == | |||
=== 15-odd-limit interval mappings === | |||
{{Q-odd-limit intervals|23}} | |||
{{Q-odd-limit intervals|22.9|apx=val|header=none|tag=none|title=15-odd-limit intervals by 23de val mapping}} | |||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
=== Uniform maps === | === Uniform maps === | ||
{{Uniform map| | {{Uniform map|edo=23}} | ||
=== Commas === | === Commas === | ||
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| Werckisma | | Werckisma | ||
|} | |} | ||
== Octave stretch or compression == | |||
{{main|23edo and octave stretching}} | |||
23edo is not often taken seriously as a tuning except by those interested in extreme [[xenharmony]]. Its fifths are significantly flat, and is neighbors [[22edo]] and [[24edo]] generally get more attention. | |||
However, when using a slightly [[stretched tuning|stretched octave]] of around 1206 [[cents]], 23edo looks much better, and it approximates the [[perfect fifth]] (and various other [[interval]]s involving the 5th, 7th, 11th, and 13th [[harmonic]]s) to within 18 cents or so. If we can tolerate errors around this size in [[12edo]], we can probably tolerate them in stretched-23 as well. | |||
Stretched-23edo is one of the best tunings to use for exploring the [[antidiatonic]] scale since its fifth is more [[consonant]] and less "[[Wolf interval|wolfish]]" than fifths in other [[pelogic family]] temperaments. | |||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 1 | | 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 1 | ||
| | | [[5L 13s]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 | | 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 | ||
| | | [[4L 15s]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
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2 5 6 6 4 - Volcanic (approximated from [[16afdo]]) | 2 5 6 6 4 - Volcanic (approximated from [[16afdo]]) | ||
''More listed in: [[User:BudjarnLambeth/Quasipelog theory#Scales]]'' | |||
== Instruments == | == Instruments == | ||
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[[File:Libro_Icositrifónico.PNG|alt=Libro_Icositrifónico.PNG|302x365px|Libro_Icositrifónico.PNG|thumb|''Icosikaitriphonic Scales for Guitar'' cover art.]] | [[File:Libro_Icositrifónico.PNG|alt=Libro_Icositrifónico.PNG|302x365px|Libro_Icositrifónico.PNG|thumb|''Icosikaitriphonic Scales for Guitar'' cover art.]] | ||
* [[Sword, Ron]]. ''[http://www.metatonalmusic.com/books.html Icosikaitriphonic Scales for Guitar: A Repository of Theory, Reference Materials, and Scale Charts for Xentonal Families]''. 2010. | * [[Sword, Ron]]. ''[http://www.metatonalmusic.com/books.html Icosikaitriphonic Scales for Guitar: A Repository of Theory, Reference Materials, and Scale Charts for Xentonal Families]''. 2010. | ||
* [[343edo#Scales|Lucite23]] - [[Gordon Wery]]'s [[well temperament]] of 23edo in [[343edo]] | |||
[[Category:23-tone scales]] | [[Category:23-tone scales]] | ||