5L 8s
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Step pattern
LsLssLsLssLss
ssLssLsLssLsL
Equave
2/1 (1200.0 ¢)
Period
2/1 (1200.0 ¢)
Bright
5\13 to 2\5 (461.5 ¢ to 480.0 ¢)
Dark
3\5 to 8\13 (720.0 ¢ to 738.5 ¢)
Descends from
5L 3s (oneirotonic)
Ancestor's step ratio range
2:1 to 1:0 (hard-of-basic)
Parent
5L 3s
Sister
8L 5s
Daughters
13L 5s, 5L 13s
Neutralized
10L 3s
2-Flought
18L 8s, 5L 21s
Equalized (L:s = 1:1)
5\13 (461.5 ¢)
Supersoft (L:s = 4:3)
17\44 (463.6 ¢)
Soft (L:s = 3:2)
12\31 (464.5 ¢)
Semisoft (L:s = 5:3)
19\49 (465.3 ¢)
Basic (L:s = 2:1)
7\18 (466.7 ¢)
Semihard (L:s = 5:2)
16\41 (468.3 ¢)
Hard (L:s = 3:1)
9\23 (469.6 ¢)
Superhard (L:s = 4:1)
11\28 (471.4 ¢)
Collapsed (L:s = 1:0)
2\5 (480.0 ¢)
↖ 4L 7s | ↑ 5L 7s | 6L 7s ↗ |
← 4L 8s | 5L 8s | 6L 8s → |
↙ 4L 9s | ↓ 5L 9s | 6L 9s ↘ |
┌╥┬╥┬┬╥┬╥┬┬╥┬┬┐ │║│║││║│║││║│││ │││││││││││││││ └┴┴┴┴┴┴┴┴┴┴┴┴┴┘
Scale structure
ssLssLsLssLsL
Generator size
TAMNAMS information
Related MOS scales
Equal tunings
5L 8s is a 2/1-equivalent (octave-equivalent) moment of symmetry scale containing 5 large steps and 8 small steps, repeating every octave. 5L 8s is a child scale of 5L 3s, expanding it by 5 tones. Generators that produce this scale range from 461.5 ¢ to 480 ¢, or from 720 ¢ to 738.5 ¢.
5L 8s represents the chromatic scales of Semisept, A-Team, and Vulture temperaments.
Scale properties
- This article uses TAMNAMS conventions for the names of this scale's intervals and scale degrees. The use of 1-indexed ordinal names is reserved for diatonic interval categories.
Intervals
Intervals | Steps subtended |
Range in cents | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
Generic | Specific | Abbrev. | ||
0-mosstep | Perfect 0-mosstep | P0ms | 0 | 0.0 ¢ |
1-mosstep | Minor 1-mosstep | m1ms | s | 0.0 ¢ to 92.3 ¢ |
Major 1-mosstep | M1ms | L | 92.3 ¢ to 240.0 ¢ | |
2-mosstep | Minor 2-mosstep | m2ms | 2s | 0.0 ¢ to 184.6 ¢ |
Major 2-mosstep | M2ms | L + s | 184.6 ¢ to 240.0 ¢ | |
3-mosstep | Minor 3-mosstep | m3ms | L + 2s | 240.0 ¢ to 276.9 ¢ |
Major 3-mosstep | M3ms | 2L + s | 276.9 ¢ to 480.0 ¢ | |
4-mosstep | Minor 4-mosstep | m4ms | L + 3s | 240.0 ¢ to 369.2 ¢ |
Major 4-mosstep | M4ms | 2L + 2s | 369.2 ¢ to 480.0 ¢ | |
5-mosstep | Diminished 5-mosstep | d5ms | L + 4s | 240.0 ¢ to 461.5 ¢ |
Perfect 5-mosstep | P5ms | 2L + 3s | 461.5 ¢ to 480.0 ¢ | |
6-mosstep | Minor 6-mosstep | m6ms | 2L + 4s | 480.0 ¢ to 553.8 ¢ |
Major 6-mosstep | M6ms | 3L + 3s | 553.8 ¢ to 720.0 ¢ | |
7-mosstep | Minor 7-mosstep | m7ms | 2L + 5s | 480.0 ¢ to 646.2 ¢ |
Major 7-mosstep | M7ms | 3L + 4s | 646.2 ¢ to 720.0 ¢ | |
8-mosstep | Perfect 8-mosstep | P8ms | 3L + 5s | 720.0 ¢ to 738.5 ¢ |
Augmented 8-mosstep | A8ms | 4L + 4s | 738.5 ¢ to 960.0 ¢ | |
9-mosstep | Minor 9-mosstep | m9ms | 3L + 6s | 720.0 ¢ to 830.8 ¢ |
Major 9-mosstep | M9ms | 4L + 5s | 830.8 ¢ to 960.0 ¢ | |
10-mosstep | Minor 10-mosstep | m10ms | 3L + 7s | 720.0 ¢ to 923.1 ¢ |
Major 10-mosstep | M10ms | 4L + 6s | 923.1 ¢ to 960.0 ¢ | |
11-mosstep | Minor 11-mosstep | m11ms | 4L + 7s | 960.0 ¢ to 1015.4 ¢ |
Major 11-mosstep | M11ms | 5L + 6s | 1015.4 ¢ to 1200.0 ¢ | |
12-mosstep | Minor 12-mosstep | m12ms | 4L + 8s | 960.0 ¢ to 1107.7 ¢ |
Major 12-mosstep | M12ms | 5L + 7s | 1107.7 ¢ to 1200.0 ¢ | |
13-mosstep | Perfect 13-mosstep | P13ms | 5L + 8s | 1200.0 ¢ |
Generator chain
Bright gens | Scale degree | Abbrev. |
---|---|---|
17 | Augmented 7-mosdegree | A7md |
16 | Augmented 2-mosdegree | A2md |
15 | Augmented 10-mosdegree | A10md |
14 | Augmented 5-mosdegree | A5md |
13 | Augmented 0-mosdegree | A0md |
12 | Augmented 8-mosdegree | A8md |
11 | Major 3-mosdegree | M3md |
10 | Major 11-mosdegree | M11md |
9 | Major 6-mosdegree | M6md |
8 | Major 1-mosdegree | M1md |
7 | Major 9-mosdegree | M9md |
6 | Major 4-mosdegree | M4md |
5 | Major 12-mosdegree | M12md |
4 | Major 7-mosdegree | M7md |
3 | Major 2-mosdegree | M2md |
2 | Major 10-mosdegree | M10md |
1 | Perfect 5-mosdegree | P5md |
0 | Perfect 0-mosdegree Perfect 13-mosdegree |
P0md P13md |
−1 | Perfect 8-mosdegree | P8md |
−2 | Minor 3-mosdegree | m3md |
−3 | Minor 11-mosdegree | m11md |
−4 | Minor 6-mosdegree | m6md |
−5 | Minor 1-mosdegree | m1md |
−6 | Minor 9-mosdegree | m9md |
−7 | Minor 4-mosdegree | m4md |
−8 | Minor 12-mosdegree | m12md |
−9 | Minor 7-mosdegree | m7md |
−10 | Minor 2-mosdegree | m2md |
−11 | Minor 10-mosdegree | m10md |
−12 | Diminished 5-mosdegree | d5md |
−13 | Diminished 13-mosdegree | d13md |
−14 | Diminished 8-mosdegree | d8md |
−15 | Diminished 3-mosdegree | d3md |
−16 | Diminished 11-mosdegree | d11md |
−17 | Diminished 6-mosdegree | d6md |
Modes
UDP | Cyclic order |
Step pattern |
Scale degree (mosdegree) | |||||||||||||
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0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | |||
12|0 | 1 | LsLssLsLssLss | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Maj. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Aug. | Maj. | Maj. | Maj. | Maj. | Perf. |
11|1 | 6 | LsLssLssLsLss | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Maj. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Maj. | Maj. | Perf. |
10|2 | 11 | LssLsLssLsLss | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Maj. | Maj. | Perf. |
9|3 | 3 | LssLsLssLssLs | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. |
8|4 | 8 | LssLssLsLssLs | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. |
7|5 | 13 | sLsLssLsLssLs | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. | Maj. | Maj. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. |
6|6 | 5 | sLsLssLssLsLs | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. |
5|7 | 10 | sLssLsLssLsLs | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Min. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. |
4|8 | 2 | sLssLsLssLssL | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Min. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Min. | Min. | Perf. |
3|9 | 7 | sLssLssLsLssL | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Min. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Min. | Min. | Perf. |
2|10 | 12 | ssLsLssLsLssL | Perf. | Min. | Min. | Min. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Maj. | Min. | Min. | Perf. |
1|11 | 4 | ssLsLssLssLsL | Perf. | Min. | Min. | Min. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Min. | Min. | Min. | Perf. |
0|12 | 9 | ssLssLsLssLsL | Perf. | Min. | Min. | Min. | Min. | Dim. | Min. | Min. | Perf. | Min. | Min. | Min. | Min. | Perf. |
Scale tree
Generator(edo) | Cents | Step ratio | Comments | |||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Bright | Dark | L:s | Hardness | |||||||
5\13 | 461.538 | 738.462 | 1:1 | 1.000 | Equalized 5L 8s | |||||
27\70 | 462.857 | 737.143 | 6:5 | 1.200 | ||||||
22\57 | 463.158 | 736.842 | 5:4 | 1.250 | ||||||
39\101 | 463.366 | 736.634 | 9:7 | 1.286 | ||||||
17\44 | 463.636 | 736.364 | 4:3 | 1.333 | Supersoft 5L 8s | |||||
46\119 | 463.866 | 736.134 | 11:8 | 1.375 | ||||||
29\75 | 464.000 | 736.000 | 7:5 | 1.400 | ||||||
41\106 | 464.151 | 735.849 | 10:7 | 1.429 | ||||||
12\31 | 464.516 | 735.484 | 3:2 | 1.500 | Soft 5L 8s | |||||
43\111 | 464.865 | 735.135 | 11:7 | 1.571 | ||||||
31\80 | 465.000 | 735.000 | 8:5 | 1.600 | ||||||
50\129 | 465.116 | 734.884 | 13:8 | 1.625 | ||||||
19\49 | 465.306 | 734.694 | 5:3 | 1.667 | Semisoft 5L 8s | |||||
45\116 | 465.517 | 734.483 | 12:7 | 1.714 | ||||||
26\67 | 465.672 | 734.328 | 7:4 | 1.750 | ||||||
33\85 | 465.882 | 734.118 | 9:5 | 1.800 | ||||||
7\18 | 466.667 | 733.333 | 2:1 | 2.000 | Basic 5L 8s Scales with tunings softer than this are proper | |||||
30\77 | 467.532 | 732.468 | 9:4 | 2.250 | ||||||
23\59 | 467.797 | 732.203 | 7:3 | 2.333 | ||||||
39\100 | 468.000 | 732.000 | 12:5 | 2.400 | ||||||
16\41 | 468.293 | 731.707 | 5:2 | 2.500 | Semihard 5L 8s | |||||
41\105 | 468.571 | 731.429 | 13:5 | 2.600 | ||||||
25\64 | 468.750 | 731.250 | 8:3 | 2.667 | ||||||
34\87 | 468.966 | 731.034 | 11:4 | 2.750 | ||||||
9\23 | 469.565 | 730.435 | 3:1 | 3.000 | Hard 5L 8s | |||||
29\74 | 470.270 | 729.730 | 10:3 | 3.333 | ||||||
20\51 | 470.588 | 729.412 | 7:2 | 3.500 | ||||||
31\79 | 470.886 | 729.114 | 11:3 | 3.667 | ||||||
11\28 | 471.429 | 728.571 | 4:1 | 4.000 | Superhard 5L 8s | |||||
24\61 | 472.131 | 727.869 | 9:2 | 4.500 | ||||||
13\33 | 472.727 | 727.273 | 5:1 | 5.000 | ||||||
15\38 | 473.684 | 726.316 | 6:1 | 6.000 | ||||||
2\5 | 480.000 | 720.000 | 1:0 | → ∞ | Collapsed 5L 8s |