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I am going to try to see if this will work. Using this as a staging area to make sure I get the template parameters right rather than experiment on the real page and botch the whole thing: | I am going to try to see if this will work. Using this as a staging area to make sure I get the template parameters right rather than experiment on the real page and botch the whole thing: | ||
{ | ''{Table revised and [[Talk:17L_2s#Proposed_revised_table|moved down]]}'' | ||
Well, it seems to work despite me not being able to figure out how to tell MOS tuning spectrum what the MOS is (extracts from the page it is embedded in? — but this is a Talk page), but I had better leave this for a bit for review before committing it to the real page. (This is for review of the Comment entries I put in the table from the music theory perspective, as well as making sure that this displays properly on other people's computers.) | Well, it seems to work despite me not being able to figure out how to tell MOS tuning spectrum what the MOS is (extracts from the page it is embedded in? — but this is a Talk page), but I had better leave this for a bit for review before committing it to the real page. (This is for review of the Comment entries I put in the table from the music theory perspective, as well as making sure that this displays properly on other people's computers.) | ||
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: Mostly added this intro to the page, though I made the change of including 75/52 as a good rational interpretation. [[User:Lériendil|Lériendil]] ([[User talk:Lériendil|talk]]) 05:20, 3 May 2025 (UTC) | : Mostly added this intro to the page, though I made the change of including 75/52 as a good rational interpretation. [[User:Lériendil|Lériendil]] ([[User talk:Lériendil|talk]]) 05:20, 3 May 2025 (UTC) | ||
:: I was thinking about ~[[75/52]] a while back, but didn't pursue it because of the triple compounding in the numerator (including 5♯.5♭), but I'll look into it some more to see how well it performs. Might as well also do this for ~[[49/34]] (now only double compounding in the numerator, as 7♯.7♭). | :: I was thinking about ~[[75/52]] a while back, but didn't pursue it because of the triple compounding in the numerator (including 5♯.5♭), but I'll look into it some more to see how well it performs. Might as well also do this for ~[[49/34]] (now only double compounding in the numerator, as ...7♯.7♭... or ...7.49...). | ||
:: And what do you think about putting the (so far just one) temperament in the MOS tuning spectrum table? | :: And what do you think about putting the (so far just one) temperament in the MOS tuning spectrum table? | ||
:: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 07:59, 3 May 2025 (UTC)<br> | :: Added: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 07:59, 3 May 2025 (UTC)<br> | ||
:: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 08: | :: Last modified: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 08:55, 3 May 2025 (UTC) | ||
==== Proposed revised table ==== | |||
''{Moved here from [[Talk:17L_2s#Alphatricot/Alphatrident|original post]]}'' | |||
Copying in the temperaments listed on the soft half of the [[2L 15s]] table, and adding another column to this table to match that one: | |||
{{MOS tuning spectrum | |||
| Depth = 6 | |||
| 5/4 = [[Pycnic]] | |||
| 4/3 = [[Liese]] (as 74d) | |||
| 5/3 = [[Liesel]] (as 91ceef) | |||
| 13/4 = [[Alphatricot family#Alphatrident|Alphatricot/Alphatrident]] | |||
}} | |||
Note that adding a column to the table is really needed to represent where Alphatricot hits its stride — some of the Alphatricot variants even hit their stride higher, but adding 2 more columns (initially tried this) starts bringing up EDOs for which no page exists yet. | |||
While adding links to the temperaments in the 2L 15s MOS tuning spectrum table, I noticed that [[Liesel]] seems misplaced — even though the largest EDO listed in its optimal ET sequence is 91edo, it is 91edo with a bunch of warts, including the 'f' wart when the 13th harmonic has under 30% relative error, and the largest patent val listed is 36edo. For now, I have reproduced its analogous position in the 17L 2s MOS tuning spectrum table, but this seems like it should be changed to appear at 2/1 (36edo). | |||
As a temporary solution I added a note to the scale tree about all those warts, and added Liese temperament with a similar note; going to make this live shortly. | |||
Added: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 09:24, 4 May 2025 (UTC)<br> | |||
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