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The '''archytas clan''' (or '''archy family''') tempers out the [[64/63|Archytas comma]], 64/63. This means that four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 9/7 major third. (Note the similarity in function to [[81/80]] in meantone, where four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 5/4 major third.) This leads to tunings with | The '''archytas clan''' (or '''archy family''') tempers out the [[64/63|Archytas' comma]], 64/63. This means that four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 9/7 major third. (Note the similarity in function to [[81/80]] in meantone, where four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 5/4 major third.) This leads to tunings with 3's and 7's quite sharp, such as those of [[22edo]]. | ||
== Archy == | == Archy == | ||
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[[Comma list]]: 64/63 | [[Comma list]]: 64/63 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 6 | 0 1 -2 }} | |||
: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 0 4 | 0 1 0 -2 }} | |||
[[ | : [[gencom]]: [2 3/2; 64/63] | ||
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~3/2 = 709.321 | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~3/2 = 709.321 | ||
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Scales: [[archy5]], [[archy7]], [[archy12]] | Scales: [[archy5]], [[archy7]], [[archy12]] | ||
=== Overview to extensions === | |||
Adding [[50/49]] to the list of commas gives pajara, [[36/35]] gives dominant, [[16/15]] gives mother, [[126/125]] gives augene, [[28/27]] gives blacksmith, [[245/243]] gives superpyth, [[250/243]] gives porcupine, [[686/675]] gives beatles, [[360/343]] gives schism, [[3125/3087]] gives passion, [[2430/2401]] gives quasisuper, and [[4375/4374]] gives modus. | |||
Discussed under their respective 5-limit families are: | |||
* ''[[Mother]]'' → [[Father family #Mother|Father family]] | |||
* ''[[Dominant]]'' → [[Meantone family #Dominant|Meantone family]] | |||
* ''[[Augene]]'' → [[Augmented family #Augene|Augmented]] | |||
* [[Porcupine]] → [[Porcupine family #Septimal porcupine|Porcupine family]] | |||
* [[Pajara]] → [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|Diaschismic family]] | |||
* ''[[Blacksmith]]'' → [[Limmic temperaments #Blacksmith|Limmic temperaments]] | |||
* ''[[Catalan]]'' → [[Kleismic family #Catalan|Kleismic family]] | |||
* ''[[Modus]]'' → [[Tetracot family #Modus|Tetracot family]] | |||
* ''[[Passion]]'' → [[Passion family #Septimal passion|Passion family]] | |||
* ''[[Immunized]]'' → [[Immunity family #Immunized|Immunity family]] | |||
The rest are considered below. | |||
=== Supra === | === Supra === | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 99/98 | Comma list: 64/63, 99/98 | ||
Sval mapping: | Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 6 13 | 0 1 -2 -6 }} | ||
Gencom mapping: | Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 0 4 7 | 0 1 0 -2 -6 }} | ||
: gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 99/98] | |||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~3/2 = 707.192 | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~3/2 = 707.192 | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 99/98 | Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 99/98 | ||
Sval mapping: | Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 6 13 18 | 0 1 -2 -6 -9 }} | ||
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 0 4 7 9 | 0 1 0 -2 -6 -9 }} | |||
: gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 78/77 99/98] | |||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~3/2 = 706.137 | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~3/2 = 706.137 | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 243/242 | Comma list: 64/63, 243/242 | ||
Sval mapping: | Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 4 2 | 0 2 -4 5 }} | ||
: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9 | |||
Gencom mapping: | Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 0 4 2 | 0 1 0 -4 5 }} | ||
: gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 99/98] | |||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~11/9 = 353.958 | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~11/9 = 353.958 | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 144/143 | Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 144/143 | ||
Sval mapping: | Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 4 2 4 | 0 2 -4 5 -1 }} | ||
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 0 4 2 4 | 0 1 0 -4 5 -1 }} | |||
: gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 78/77 99/98] | |||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~11/9 = 353.775 | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~11/9 = 353.775 | ||
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== Superpyth == | == Superpyth == | ||
{{ | {{Main| Superpyth }} | ||
In the 5-limit, superpyth tempers out 20480/19683 (sayo comma). This temperament has a fifth generator of ~3/2 = ~710¢ and 5/4 is equated to nine generators minus 5 octaves. A weak extension [[Jubilismic clan #Bipyth|bipyth]] (10cd&22) tempers out the same 5-limit comma as the superpyth, but with a half-octave period and the jubilisma (50/49) rather than the Archytas comma tempered out. | In the 5-limit, superpyth tempers out 20480/19683 (sayo comma). This temperament has a fifth generator of ~3/2 = ~710¢ and 5/4 is equated to nine generators minus 5 octaves. A weak extension [[Jubilismic clan #Bipyth|bipyth]] (10cd&22) tempers out the same 5-limit comma as the superpyth, but with a half-octave period and the jubilisma (50/49) rather than the Archytas comma tempered out. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 20480/19683 | [[Comma list]]: 20480/19683 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -12 | 0 1 9 }} | |||
[[POTE | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 710.078 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 17, 22, 49, 120b, 169bbc }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 17, 22, 49, 120b, 169bbc }} | ||
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=== 7-limit === | === 7-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 245/243 | [[Comma list]]: 64/63, 245/243 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -12 6 | 0 1 9 -2 }} | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 9 -2 12 -6 -30 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 1 9 -2 12 -6 -30 }} | ||
[[POTE | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 710.291 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 17, 22, 27, 49 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 17, 22, 27, 49 }} | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 245/243 | Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 245/243 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -12 6 -22 | 0 1 9 -2 16 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 710.175 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 22, 27e, 49 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 22, 27e, 49 }} | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99 | Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -12 6 -22 -17 | 0 1 9 -2 16 13 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 710.479 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 22, 27e, 49, 76bcde }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 22, 27e, 49, 76bcde }} | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 169/168, 245/243 | Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 169/168, 245/243 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 -3 4 -6 4 | 0 2 18 -4 32 -1 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~16/13 = 355.036 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17e, 27e, 44, 71d }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17e, 27e, 44, 71d }} | ||
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 99/98 | Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 99/98 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -12 6 13 | 0 1 9 -2 -6 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 709.495 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 12c, 17, 22 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 12c, 17, 22 }} | ||
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 65/63, 99/98 | Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 65/63, 99/98 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -12 6 13 18 | 0 1 9 -2 -6 -9 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 708.703 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17, 22, 83cdf }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17, 22, 83cdf }} | ||
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== Quasisuper == | == Quasisuper == | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 2430/2401 | [[Comma list]]: 64/63, 2430/2401 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 23 6 | 0 1 -13 -2 }} | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -13 -2 -23 -6 32 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 1 -13 -2 -23 -6 32 }} | ||
[[POTE | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 708.328 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 22, 61d }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 22, 61d }} | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 99/98, 121/120 | Comma list: 64/63, 99/98, 121/120 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 23 6 13 | 0 1 -13 -2 -6 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 708.205 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 22, 39d, 61d }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 22, 39d, 61d }} | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 121/120 | Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 121/120 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 23 6 13 18 | 0 1 -13 -2 -6 -9 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 708.004 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 22, 39d, 61df, 100bcdf }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 22, 39d, 61df, 100bcdf }} | ||
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2430/2401 | Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2430/2401 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 23 6 -22 | 0 1 -13 -2 16 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 709.021 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5ce, 17ce, 22 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5ce, 17ce, 22 }} | ||
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Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 [[The Biosphere #Oceanfront|oceanfront]] temperament, with mapping 5th harmonic to 14 fifths. | Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 [[The Biosphere #Oceanfront|oceanfront]] temperament, with mapping 5th harmonic to 14 fifths. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 6860/6561 | [[Comma list]]: 64/63, 6860/6561 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -20 6 | 0 1 14 -2 }} | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 14 -2 20 -6 -44 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 1 14 -2 20 -6 -44 }} | ||
[[POTE | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 713.651 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 32, 37 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 32, 37 }} | ||
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2401/2376 | Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2401/2376 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -20 6 21 | 0 1 14 -2 -11 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 713.395 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 32, 37 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 32, 37 }} | ||
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 1573/1568 | Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 1573/1568 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -20 6 21 -25 | 0 1 14 -2 -11 18 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 713.500 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 32, 37 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 32, 37 }} | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 3773/3645 | Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 3773/3645 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -20 6 -38 | 0 1 14 -2 26 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 713.791 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bce, 116bbce }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bce, 116bbce }} | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 847/845 | Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 847/845 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -20 6 -38 -25 | 0 1 14 -2 26 18 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 713.811 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bcef, 116bbcef }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bcef, 116bbcef }} | ||
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{{see also|Schismatic family #Schism}} | {{see also|Schismatic family #Schism}} | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 360/343 | [[Comma list]]: 64/63, 360/343 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 15 6 | 0 1 -8 -2 }} | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -8 -2 -15 -6 18 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 1 -8 -2 -15 -6 18 }} | ||
[[POTE | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 701.556 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 41d, 53d }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 41d, 53d }} | ||
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Comma list: 45/44, 64/63, 99/98 | Comma list: 45/44, 64/63, 99/98 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 15 6 13 | 0 1 -8 -2 -6 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 702.136 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 29de, 41de }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 29de, 41de }} | ||
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: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Beatles]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Beatles]].'' | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 686/675 | [[Comma list]]: 64/63, 686/675 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 5 4 | 0 2 -9 -4 }} | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 2 -9 -4 -19 -12 16 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 2 -9 -4 -19 -12 16 }} | ||
[[POTE | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~49/40 = 355.904 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27, 64b, 91bcd, 118bcd }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27, 64b, 91bcd, 118bcd }} | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 686/675 | Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 686/675 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 4 10 | 0 2 -9 -4 -22 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~49/40 = 356.140 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27e, 37, 64be, 91bcde }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27e, 37, 64be, 91bcde }} | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168 | Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 4 10 4 | 0 2 -9 -4 -22 -1 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~16/13 = 356.229 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27e, 37, 64be }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27e, 37, 64be }} | ||
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Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 540/539 | Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 540/539 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 4 2 | 0 2 -9 -4 5 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~11/9 = 355.419 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27e }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27e }} | ||
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Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 91/90 | Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 91/90 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 4 2 4 | 0 2 -9 -4 5 -1 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~11/9 = 355.456 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27e }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27e }} | ||
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 686/675 | Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 686/675 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 4 -1 | 0 2 -9 -4 15}} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~49/40 = 356.710 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 27, 37 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 27, 37 }} | ||
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 169/168 | Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 169/168 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 4 -1 4 | 0 2 -9 -4 15 -1 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~16/13 = 356.701 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 27, 37 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 27, 37 }} | ||
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: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Fervor]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Fervor]].'' | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 9604/9375 | [[Comma list]]: 64/63, 9604/9375 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 4 -2 -2 | 0 -5 9 10 }} | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 5 -9 -10 -26 -30 2 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 5 -9 -10 -26 -30 2 }} | ||
[[POTE | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 577.776 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 25, 27 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 25, 27 }} | ||
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Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 1350/1331 | Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 1350/1331 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 4 -2 -2 3 | 0 -5 9 10 1 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 577.850 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 25e, 27e }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 25e, 27e }} | ||
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Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 507/500 | Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 507/500 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 4 -2 -2 3 -4 | 0 -5 9 10 1 16 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 578.060 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2f, 25ef, 27e }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2f, 25ef, 27e }} | ||
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: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Progress]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Progress]].'' | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 392/375 | [[Comma list]]: 64/63, 392/375 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 5 6 | 0 3 -5 -6 }} | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 3 -5 -6 -15 -18 0 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 3 -5 -6 -15 -18 0 }} | ||
[[POTE | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 562.122 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 13, 15, 32c, 79bcc, 111bcc }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 13, 15, 32c, 79bcc, 111bcc }} | ||
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Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 77/75 | Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 77/75 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 5 6 4 | 0 3 -5 -6 -1 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 562.085 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 13, 15, 32c, 47bc, 79bcce }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 13, 15, 32c, 47bc, 79bcce }} | ||
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Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 66/65, 77/75 | Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 66/65, 77/75 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 5 6 4 0 | 0 3 -5 -6 -1 7 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 562.365 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15, 17c, 32cf }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15, 17c, 32cf }} | ||
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Comma list: 26/25, 56/55, 64/63, 77/75 | Comma list: 26/25, 56/55, 64/63, 77/75 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 5 6 4 9 | 0 3 -5 -6 -1 -10 }} | ||
POTE | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 563.239 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15f, 17c, 32c, 49c }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15f, 17c, 32c, 49c }} | ||
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== Sixix == | == Sixix == | ||
{{See also| Dual-fifth temperaments #Dual-3 Sixix }} | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5 | ||
[[Comma]]: 3125/2916 | [[Comma list]]: 3125/2916 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 3 4 | 0 -5 -6 }} | |||
[[POTE | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 338.365 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 25, 32 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 25, 32 }} | ||
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[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 3125/2916 | [[Comma list]]: 64/63, 3125/2916 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 3 4 0 | 0 -5 -6 10 }} | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 5 6 -10 -2 -30 -40 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 5 6 -10 -2 -30 -40 }} | ||
[[POTE | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 337.442 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 25, 32 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 25, 32 }} |
Revision as of 07:54, 27 May 2023
The archytas clan (or archy family) tempers out the Archytas' comma, 64/63. This means that four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 9/7 major third. (Note the similarity in function to 81/80 in meantone, where four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 5/4 major third.) This leads to tunings with 3's and 7's quite sharp, such as those of 22edo.
Archy
Subgroup: 2.3.7
Comma list: 64/63
Sval mapping: [⟨1 0 6], ⟨0 1 -2]]
- sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 1 0 4], ⟨0 1 0 -2]]
- gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~3/2 = 709.321
Optimal ET sequence: 2, 3, 5, 12, 17, 22, 137bdd, 159bddd, 181bbddd
Scales: archy5, archy7, archy12
Overview to extensions
Adding 50/49 to the list of commas gives pajara, 36/35 gives dominant, 16/15 gives mother, 126/125 gives augene, 28/27 gives blacksmith, 245/243 gives superpyth, 250/243 gives porcupine, 686/675 gives beatles, 360/343 gives schism, 3125/3087 gives passion, 2430/2401 gives quasisuper, and 4375/4374 gives modus.
Discussed under their respective 5-limit families are:
- Mother → Father family
- Dominant → Meantone family
- Augene → Augmented
- Porcupine → Porcupine family
- Pajara → Diaschismic family
- Blacksmith → Limmic temperaments
- Catalan → Kleismic family
- Modus → Tetracot family
- Passion → Passion family
- Immunized → Immunity family
The rest are considered below.
Supra
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
Comma list: 64/63, 99/98
Sval mapping: [⟨1 0 6 13], ⟨0 1 -2 -6]]
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 1 0 4 7], ⟨0 1 0 -2 -6]]
- gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 99/98]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~3/2 = 707.192
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 12, 17, 39d, 56d
Supraphon
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 99/98
Sval mapping: [⟨1 0 6 13 18], ⟨0 1 -2 -6 -9]]
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 1 0 4 7 9], ⟨0 1 0 -2 -6 -9]]
- gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 78/77 99/98]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~3/2 = 706.137
Suhajira
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
Comma list: 64/63, 243/242
Sval mapping: [⟨1 1 4 2], ⟨0 2 -4 5]]
- sval mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 1 0 4 2], ⟨0 1 0 -4 5]]
- gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 99/98]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~11/9 = 353.958
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 10, 17, 44e, 61de
Scales: suhajira7, suhajira10, suhajira17
2.3.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 144/143
Sval mapping: [⟨1 1 4 2 4], ⟨0 2 -4 5 -1]]
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 1 0 4 2 4], ⟨0 1 0 -4 5 -1]]
- gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 78/77 99/98]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~11/9 = 353.775
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 10, 17, 44e, 61de
Scales: suhajira7, suhajira10, suhajira17
Superpyth
In the 5-limit, superpyth tempers out 20480/19683 (sayo comma). This temperament has a fifth generator of ~3/2 = ~710¢ and 5/4 is equated to nine generators minus 5 octaves. A weak extension bipyth (10cd&22) tempers out the same 5-limit comma as the superpyth, but with a half-octave period and the jubilisma (50/49) rather than the Archytas comma tempered out.
Subgroup: 2.3.5
Comma list: 20480/19683
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -12], ⟨0 1 9]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 710.078
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 17, 22, 49, 120b, 169bbc
Badness: 0.135141
7-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 245/243
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -12 6], ⟨0 1 9 -2]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 1 9 -2 12 -6 -30 ]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 710.291
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 17, 22, 27, 49
Badness: 0.032318
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 245/243
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -12 6 -22], ⟨0 1 9 -2 16]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 710.175
Optimal ET sequence: 22, 27e, 49
Badness: 0.024976
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -12 6 -22 -17], ⟨0 1 9 -2 16 13]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 710.479
Optimal ET sequence: 22, 27e, 49, 76bcde
Badness: 0.024673
Thomas
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 169/168, 245/243
Mapping: [⟨1 1 -3 4 -6 4], ⟨0 2 18 -4 32 -1]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~16/13 = 355.036
Optimal ET sequence: 17e, 27e, 44, 71d
Badness: 0.049183
Suprapyth
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 99/98
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -12 6 13], ⟨0 1 9 -2 -6]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 709.495
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 12c, 17, 22
Badness: 0.032768
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 65/63, 99/98
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -12 6 13 18], ⟨0 1 9 -2 -6 -9]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 708.703
Optimal ET sequence: 17, 22, 83cdf
Badness: 0.036336
Quasisuper
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 2430/2401
Mapping: [⟨1 0 23 6], ⟨0 1 -13 -2]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 1 -13 -2 -23 -6 32 ]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 708.328
Optimal ET sequence: 17c, 22, 61d
Badness: 0.063794
Quasisupra
Quasisupra can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.11 temperament supra, with the quasisuper mapping of 5 thrown in, rather than the superpyth mapping of 5 (which results in suprapyth).
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 64/63, 99/98, 121/120
Mapping: [⟨1 0 23 6 13], ⟨0 1 -13 -2 -6]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 708.205
Optimal ET sequence: 17c, 22, 39d, 61d
Badness: 0.032203
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 121/120
Mapping: [⟨1 0 23 6 13 18], ⟨0 1 -13 -2 -6 -9]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 708.004
Optimal ET sequence: 17c, 22, 39d, 61df, 100bcdf
Badness: 0.030219
Quasisoup
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2430/2401
Mapping: [⟨1 0 23 6 -22], ⟨0 1 -13 -2 16]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 709.021
Optimal ET sequence: 5ce, 17ce, 22
Badness: 0.083490
Ultrapyth
Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 oceanfront temperament, with mapping 5th harmonic to 14 fifths.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 6860/6561
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -20 6], ⟨0 1 14 -2]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 1 14 -2 20 -6 -44 ]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 713.651
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 32, 37
Badness: 0.108466
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2401/2376
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -20 6 21], ⟨0 1 14 -2 -11]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 713.395
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 32, 37
Badness: 0.068238
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 1573/1568
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -20 6 21 -25], ⟨0 1 14 -2 -11 18]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 713.500
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 32, 37
Badness: 0.049172
Ultramarine
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 3773/3645
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -20 6 -38], ⟨0 1 14 -2 26]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 713.791
Optimal ET sequence: 5e, 32e, 37, 79bce, 116bbce
Badness: 0.078068
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 847/845
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -20 6 -38 -25], ⟨0 1 14 -2 26 18]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 713.811
Optimal ET sequence: 5e, 32e, 37, 79bcef, 116bbcef
Badness: 0.045653
Schism
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 360/343
Mapping: [⟨1 0 15 6], ⟨0 1 -8 -2]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 1 -8 -2 -15 -6 18 ]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 701.556
Optimal ET sequence: 12, 41d, 53d
Badness: 0.056648
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 45/44, 64/63, 99/98
Mapping: [⟨1 0 15 6 13], ⟨0 1 -8 -2 -6]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 702.136
Optimal ET sequence: 12, 29de, 41de
Badness: 0.037482
Beatles
- For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Beatles.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 686/675
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4], ⟨0 2 -9 -4]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 2 -9 -4 -19 -12 16 ]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~49/40 = 355.904
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 17c, 27, 64b, 91bcd, 118bcd
Badness: 0.045872
- Music
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11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 686/675
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4 10], ⟨0 2 -9 -4 -22]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~49/40 = 356.140
Optimal ET sequence: 27e, 37, 64be, 91bcde
Badness: 0.045639
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4 10 4], ⟨0 2 -9 -4 -22 -1]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~16/13 = 356.229
Optimal ET sequence: 27e, 37, 64be
Badness: 0.030161
Ringo
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 540/539
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4 2], ⟨0 2 -9 -4 5]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~11/9 = 355.419
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 17c, 27e
Badness: 0.032863
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 91/90
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4 2 4], ⟨0 2 -9 -4 5 -1]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~11/9 = 355.456
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 17c, 27e
Badness: 0.022619
Beetle
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 686/675
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4 -1], ⟨0 2 -9 -4 15]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~49/40 = 356.710
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 27, 37
Badness: 0.058084
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 169/168
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4 -1 4], ⟨0 2 -9 -4 15 -1]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~16/13 = 356.701
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 27, 37
Badness: 0.033971
Fervor
- For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Fervor.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 9604/9375
Mapping: [⟨1 4 -2 -2], ⟨0 -5 9 10]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 5 -9 -10 -26 -30 2 ]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 577.776
Optimal ET sequence: 2, 25, 27
Badness: 0.108455
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 1350/1331
Mapping: [⟨1 4 -2 -2 3], ⟨0 -5 9 10 1]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 577.850
Optimal ET sequence: 2, 25e, 27e
Badness: 0.052054
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 507/500
Mapping: [⟨1 4 -2 -2 3 -4], ⟨0 -5 9 10 1 16]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 578.060
Optimal ET sequence: 2f, 25ef, 27e
Badness: 0.039705
Progress
- For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Progress.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 392/375
Mapping: [⟨1 0 5 6], ⟨0 3 -5 -6]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 3 -5 -6 -15 -18 0 ]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 562.122
Optimal ET sequence: 2, 13, 15, 32c, 79bcc, 111bcc
Badness: 0.066400
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 77/75
Mapping: [⟨1 0 5 6 4], ⟨0 3 -5 -6 -1]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 562.085
Optimal ET sequence: 2, 13, 15, 32c, 47bc, 79bcce
Badness: 0.031036
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 66/65, 77/75
Mapping: [⟨1 0 5 6 4 0], ⟨0 3 -5 -6 -1 7]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 562.365
Optimal ET sequence: 15, 17c, 32cf
Badness: 0.026214
Progressive
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 26/25, 56/55, 64/63, 77/75
Mapping: [⟨1 0 5 6 4 9], ⟨0 3 -5 -6 -1 -10]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~7/5 = 563.239
Optimal ET sequence: 15f, 17c, 32c, 49c
Badness: 0.032721
Sixix
Subgroup: 2.3.5
Comma list: 3125/2916
Mapping: [⟨1 3 4], ⟨0 -5 -6]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 338.365
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 25, 32
Badness: 0.153088
7-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 3125/2916
Mapping: [⟨1 3 4 0], ⟨0 -5 -6 10]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 5 6 -10 -2 -30 -40 ]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 337.442
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 25, 32
Badness: 0.158903