Limmic temperaments

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This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

Limmic temperaments are temperaments that temper out the Pythagorean limma, 256/243. As a consequence, 3/2 is always represented by 3\5, 720 cents assuming pure octaves. While quite sharp, this is close enough to a just fifth to serve as a fifth, and some people are fond of it.

Blackwood

Blackwood is the 5edo circle of fifths with an independent dimension for the harmonic 5. It can be described as the 5 & 10 temperament. 15edo is an obvious tuning.

The only extension to the 7-limit that makes any sense is to map the harmonic seventh to 4\5, tempering out 28/27, 49/48, and 64/63. This is known as blacksmith in earlier materials, including Graham Breed's temperament finder.

5-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 256/243

Mapping[5 8 0], 0 0 1]]

mapping generators: ~9/8, ~5

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~9/8 = 240.000, ~5/4 = 386.314
error map: 0.000 +18.045 0.000]
  • POTE: ~9/8 = 240.000, ~5/4 = 399.594
error map: 0.000 +18.045 +13.280]

Optimal ET sequence5, 10, 15

Badness (Smith): 0.063760

7-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 28/27, 49/48

Mapping[5 8 0 14], 0 0 1 0]]

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~5/4 = 386.313
error map: 0.000 +18.045 0.000 -8.826]
  • POTE: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~5/4 = 392.767
error map: 0.000 +18.045 +6.454 -8.826]

Optimal ET sequence5, 10, 15, 40b

Badness (Smith): 0.025640

Undecimal blackwood

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 28/27, 49/48, 55/54

Mapping: [5 8 0 14 29], 0 0 1 0 -1]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~8/7 = 240.000, ~5/4 = 394.948

Optimal ET sequence: 5, 10, 15, 40be, 55be, 70bde, 85bcde

Badness (Smith): 0.024641

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 28/27, 40/39, 49/48, 55/54

Mapping: [5 8 0 14 29 7], 0 0 1 0 -1 1]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~8/7 = 240.000, ~5/4 = 391.037

Optimal ET sequence: 5, 10, 15, 25e, 40bef

Badness (Smith): 0.020498

Farrier

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 28/27, 49/48, 77/75

Mapping: [5 8 0 14 -6], 0 0 1 0 2]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~8/7 = 240.000, ~5/4 = 398.070

Optimal ET sequence: 5e, 10e, 15

Badness (Smith): 0.029200

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 28/27, 40/39, 49/48, 66/65

Mapping: [5 8 0 14 -6 7], 0 0 1 0 2 1]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~8/7 = 240.000, ~5/4 = 396.812

Optimal ET sequence: 5e, 10e, 15

Badness (Smith): 0.022325

Ferrum

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 28/27, 35/33, 49/48

Mapping: [5 8 0 14 6], 0 0 1 0 1]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~8/7 = 240.000, ~5/4 = 374.763

Optimal ET sequence: 5e, 10

Badness (Smith): 0.030883

Blackweed

Blackweed is a variant of blackwood as it tempers out 256/243 alike but in the 2.3.11/7 subgroup. 20edo is close to the optimum, which has 4\20 as the period and 420 ¢ as the generator.

Subgroup: 2.3.11/7

Comma list: [8 -5 (256/243)

Sval mapping[5 8 0], 0 0 1]]

sval mapping generators: ~9/8, ~11/7

Optimal tuning (subgroup POTE): ~9/8 = 240.0000, ~11/7 = 786.2215

Optimal ET sequence15, 20, 35b