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The '''sperasma''' is the [[17-limit]] [[superparticular]] [[comma]] with a ratio of '''2500/2499'''. Among other things, it equates a stack of two [[25/21]]s with a [[17/12]].
'''2500/2499''', the '''sperasma''', is an [[unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[17-limit]] [[superparticular]] [[comma]] with a size of about 0.693 [[cent]]s. Among other things, it is the difference between the small septimal sixth-tone of [[50/49]] and the large septendecimal sixth-tone of [[51/50]]. It also represents the little gap between [[17/12]] and a stack of two [[25/21]]'s.


== Commatic relations ==
== Commatic relations ==
This comma is the difference between the following superparticular pairs:  
This comma is the difference between the following superparticular pairs:  
* [[50/49]] and [[51/50]]
* [[120/119]] and [[126/125]]
* [[120/119]] and [[126/125]]
* [[375/374]] and [[441/440]]
* [[375/374]] and [[441/440]]
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== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
Tempering out this comma in the 17-limit results in the rank-6 '''sperasmic temperament''', or in the the 2.3.5.7.17 subgroup, the rank-4 '''speric temperament'''. You may find a list of good equal temperaments that support these temperaments below.  
Tempering out this comma in the 17-limit results in the rank-6 '''sperasmic''' temperament, or in the the 2.3.5.7.17 subgroup, the rank-4 '''speric''' temperament. You may find a list of good equal temperaments that support these temperaments below.  
 
=== Speric ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.17
 
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 0 0 2 | 0 1 0 0 -1 | 0 0 1 0 4 | 0 0 0 1 -2 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5, ~7
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.9902{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9772{{c}}, ~5/4 = 386.2274{{c}}, ~7/4 = 968.9230{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9754{{c}}, ~5/4 = 386.2178{{c}}, ~7/4 = 968.9184{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 27g, 31, 41g, 56, 60, 68, 72, 99, 171, 494, 525, 581, 593, 665, 764, 836, 935, 1771, 1942, 2706, 2877, 4477, 4648 }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.122


=== Sperasmic ===
=== Sperasmic ===
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| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || ]]
| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || ]]
|}
|}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5, ~7, ~11, ~13
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5, ~7, ~11, ~13


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 701.9677, ~5/4 = 386.2047, ~7/4 - 968.9056, ~11/8, ~13/8
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.9902{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9772{{c}}, ~5/4 = 386.2274{{c}}, ~7/4 = 968.9230{{c}}, ~11/8 = 551.3474{{c}}, ~13/8 = 840.5571{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9754{{c}}, ~5/4 = 386.2178{{c}}, ~7/4 = 968.9184{{c}}, ~11/8 = 551.3352{{c}}, ~13/8 = 840.5461{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 24d, 27eg, 29g, 31, 41g, 43, 53g, 58g, 60e, 68, 72, 103, 111, 140, 171, 183, 239f, 243e, 270, 311, 354, 414, 422, 494, 581, 764, 935, 1075, 1106, 1178, 1672, 1942, 2113, 2253, 2535, 2805g, 3299d, 3713, 3983g, 4477 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 24d, 27eg, 29g, 31, 41g, 43, 53g, 58g, 60e, 68, 72, 103, 111, 140, 171, 183, 239f, 243e, 270, 311, 354, 414, 422, 494, 581, 764, 935, 1075, 1106, 1178, 1672, 1942, 2113, 2253, 2535, 2805g, 3299d, 3713, 3983g, 4477 }}


=== Speric ===
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.13
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.17
 
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 0 0 2 | 0 1 0 0 -1 | 0 0 1 0 4 | 0 0 0 1 -2 }}
 
: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5, ~7
 
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 701.9677, ~5/4 = 386.2047, ~7/4 - 968.9056
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 27g, 31, 41g, 56, 60, 68, 72, 99, 171, 494, 525, 581, 593, 665, 764, 836, 935, 1771, 1942, 2706, 2877, 4477, 4648 }}


== Etymology ==
== Etymology ==
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== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Unnoticeable comma]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]


== References ==
== References ==
<references/>
<references/>
[[Category:Sperasmic]]
[[Category:Commas named by translating something into another language]]

Latest revision as of 07:49, 29 March 2026

Interval information
Ratio 2500/2499
Factorization 22 × 3-1 × 54 × 7-2 × 17-1
Monzo [2 -1 4 -2 0 0 -1
Size in cents 0.6926322¢
Name sperasma
Color name 17urry4-3, subiruyoyo negative 3rd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{ddd}{-3}^{5,5,5,5}_{7,7,17} }[/math]
Special properties square superparticular,
reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 22.5748
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 22.5754
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 58
Comma size unnoticeable
S-expression S50
Open this interval in xen-calc

2500/2499, the sperasma, is an unnoticeable 17-limit superparticular comma with a size of about 0.693 cents. Among other things, it is the difference between the small septimal sixth-tone of 50/49 and the large septendecimal sixth-tone of 51/50. It also represents the little gap between 17/12 and a stack of two 25/21's.

Commatic relations

This comma is the difference between the following superparticular pairs:

Not to mention some nonsuperparticular but useful relations:

It factors into the following superparticular pairs:

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma in the 17-limit results in the rank-6 sperasmic temperament, or in the the 2.3.5.7.17 subgroup, the rank-4 speric temperament. You may find a list of good equal temperaments that support these temperaments below.

Speric

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.17

Subgroup-val mapping[1 0 0 0 2], 0 1 0 0 -1], 0 0 1 0 4], 0 0 0 1 -2]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5, ~7

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.9902 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.9772 ¢, ~5/4 = 386.2274 ¢, ~7/4 = 968.9230 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.9754 ¢, ~5/4 = 386.2178 ¢, ~7/4 = 968.9184 ¢

Optimal ET sequence19, 27g, 31, 41g, 56, 60, 68, 72, 99, 171, 494, 525, 581, 593, 665, 764, 836, 935, 1771, 1942, 2706, 2877, 4477, 4648

Badness (Sintel): 0.122

Sperasmic

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Mapping:

[⟨ 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 ],
0 1 0 0 0 0 -1 ],
0 0 1 0 0 0 4 ],
0 0 0 1 0 0 -2 ],
0 0 0 0 1 0 0 ],
0 0 0 0 0 1 0 ]]
mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5, ~7, ~11, ~13

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.9902 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.9772 ¢, ~5/4 = 386.2274 ¢, ~7/4 = 968.9230 ¢, ~11/8 = 551.3474 ¢, ~13/8 = 840.5571 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.9754 ¢, ~5/4 = 386.2178 ¢, ~7/4 = 968.9184 ¢, ~11/8 = 551.3352 ¢, ~13/8 = 840.5461 ¢

Optimal ET sequence19, 24d, 27eg, 29g, 31, 41g, 43, 53g, 58g, 60e, 68, 72, 103, 111, 140, 171, 183, 239f, 243e, 270, 311, 354, 414, 422, 494, 581, 764, 935, 1075, 1106, 1178, 1672, 1942, 2113, 2253, 2535, 2805g, 3299d, 3713, 3983g, 4477

Badness (Sintel): 1.13

Etymology

The sperasma was named by Aura in 2023. It comes from the Latin verb "spērāre" meaning "to hope" or "to fear"[1].

See also

References