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The '''ragismic family''' of temperaments are rank-3 microtemperaments which temper out [[4375/4374]].
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">Comma: 4375/4374


7-limit minimax
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:
[|1 0 0 0&gt;, |-1/7 0 4/7 1/7&gt;,
* ''[[Sensigh]]'' → [[Sensamagic family #Sensigh|Sensamagic family]]
|0 0 1 0&gt;, |0 0 0 1&gt;]
* ''[[Catakleismoid]]'' → [[Marvel family #Catakleismoid|Marvel family]]
Eigenmonzos: 2, 5, 7
* ''[[Ennealimmic]]'' → [[Breed family #Ennealimmic|Breed family]]


9-limit minimax
Considered below are beyla, ulmo, thor, heimdall, bragi, and vidar.
||1 0 0 0&gt;, |0 1 0 0&gt;,  
|1/5 7/5 1/5 -1/5&gt;, |1/5 7/5 -4/5 4/5&gt;]
Eigenmonzos: 2, 3, 7/5


Map: [&lt;1 0 0 1|, &lt;0 1 0 7|, &lt;0 0 1 -4|]
== Ragismic ==
Generators: 2, 3, 5
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
Edos: 7, 19, 26, 27, 45, 46, 53, 65, 72, 80, 91, 99, 171, 270, 441, 612, 935, 1106, 1277, 1376, 1547, 1718, 1889, 2923, 3166, 3436, 3877, 3535, 4390, 5496, 5937, 6450, 9058


==11 limit children==
[[Comma list]]: [[4375/4374]]


===Thor===
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 1 | 0 1 0 7 | 0 0 1 -4 }}
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024


Minimax tuning
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5


Eigenmonzos: 2, 11/10, 8/7
[[Mapping to lattice]]: [{{val| 0 -1 -1 -3 }}, {{val| 0 -1 -2 1 }}]


Map: [&lt;2 0 0 2 5|, &lt;0 1 0 7 5|, &lt;0 0 1 -4 -3|]
Lattice basis:  
Generators: 99/70, 3, 5
: 10/9 length = 0.789, 6/5 length = 0.921
: Angle (10/9, 6/5) = 105.299°


13-limit
[[Minimax tuning]]:
* [[7-odd-limit]] [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.5.7
* [[9-odd-limit]] [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.3.7/5


====Donar====
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 27, 45, 46, 53, 72, 99, 171, 441, 612, 935, 1106, 1277, 1547, 1718, 4983, 6701, 8419, 17279c }}
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024, 4225/4224


====Thunor====
[[Projection pair]]: ~7 = ~4374/625
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024, 1716/1715</pre></div>
 
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Scales: [[Ragismic19]], [[Ragismic chromatic]]
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Ragisma family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;Comma: 4375/4374&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
== Beyla ==
7-limit minimax&lt;br /&gt;
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
[|1 0 0 0&amp;gt;, |-1/7 0 4/7 1/7&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
 
|0 0 1 0&amp;gt;, |0 0 0 1&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Comma list]]: 385/384, 4375/4374
Eigenmonzos: 2, 5, 7&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 1 6 | 0 1 0 7 -6 | 0 0 1 -4 3 }}
9-limit minimax&lt;br /&gt;
 
||1 0 0 0&amp;gt;, |0 1 0 0&amp;gt;, &lt;br /&gt;
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 19, 26, 45, 46, 53, 72, 118, 190, 315e, 361e, 433de, 623cdee }}
|1/5 7/5 1/5 -1/5&amp;gt;, |1/5 7/5 -4/5 4/5&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
 
Eigenmonzos: 2, 3, 7/5&lt;br /&gt;
[[Badness]]: 0.721 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
&lt;br /&gt;
 
Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 0 1|, &amp;lt;0 1 0 7|, &amp;lt;0 0 1 -4|]&lt;br /&gt;
=== 13-limit ===
Generators: 2, 3, 5&lt;br /&gt;
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Edos: 7, 19, 26, 27, 45, 46, 53, 65, 72, 80, 91, 99, 171, 270, 441, 612, 935, 1106, 1277, 1376, 1547, 1718, 1889, 2923, 3166, 3436, 3877, 3535, 4390, 5496, 5937, 6450, 9058&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
Comma list: 169/168, 325/324, 385/384
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc0"&gt;&lt;a name="x-11 limit children"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 --&gt;11 limit children&lt;/h2&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 1 6 2 | 0 1 0 7 -6 4 | 0 0 1 -4 3 -2 }}
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:&amp;lt;h3&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h3 id="toc1"&gt;&lt;a name="x-11 limit children-Thor"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 --&gt;Thor&lt;/h3&gt;
 
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024&lt;br /&gt;
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 19, 26, 46, 53, 72, 118f, 125f, 171ef, 190ff, 197ef, 243eff }}
&lt;br /&gt;
 
Minimax tuning&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.840 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
&lt;br /&gt;
 
Eigenmonzos: 2, 11/10, 8/7&lt;br /&gt;
== Ulmo ==
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 0 2 5|, &amp;lt;0 1 0 7 5|, &amp;lt;0 0 1 -4 -3|]&lt;br /&gt;
 
Generators: 99/70, 3, 5&lt;br /&gt;
[[Comma list]]: 176/175, 2200/2187
&lt;br /&gt;
 
13-limit&lt;br /&gt;
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 1 -3 | 0 1 0 7 7 | 0 0 1 -4 -2 }}
&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:&amp;lt;h4&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h4 id="toc2"&gt;&lt;a name="x-11 limit children-Thor-Donar"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 --&gt;Donar&lt;/h4&gt;
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 39, 46, 53, 80, 126, 179, 259cd, 385bcd }}
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024, 4225/4224&lt;br /&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Badness]]: 1.23 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:&amp;lt;h4&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h4 id="toc3"&gt;&lt;a name="x-11 limit children-Thor-Thunor"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 --&gt;Thunor&lt;/h4&gt;
 
Commas: 4375/4374, 3025/3024, 1716/1715&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 169/168, 176/175, 325/324
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 1 -3 2 | 0 1 0 7 7 4 | 0 0 1 -4 -2 -2 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 39, 46, 53, 80, 133d, 179, 312cdf }}
 
Badness: 0.932 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
== Thor ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
 
[[Comma list]]: 3025/3024, 4375/4374
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 0 2 5 | 0 1 0 7 5 | 0 0 1 -4 -3 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~5
 
[[Minimax tuning]]:
* [[11-odd-limit]] [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.7.11/5
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 26, 34d, 46, 72, 118, 152, 224, 270, 342, 494, 612, 836, 1106, 1448, 2554, 4002e, 5720e, 7168cee }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.0888 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
[[Projection pair]]s: 2 = ~9801/4900, ~7 = ~21434787/3062500, ~11 = ~2310905821257/210087500000 to 3.5.14/11
 
=== Thunor ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 1716/1715, 2080/2079, 3025/3024
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 0 2 5 -3 | 0 1 0 7 5 15 | 0 0 1 -4 -3 -8 }}
 
Mapping to lattice: [{{val| 0 -1 -2 -3 -2 -7 }}, {{val| 0 -1 -2 1 1 1 }}] 
 
Lattice basis:  
: 10/9 length = 0.4234, 6/5 length = 0.8426
: Angle (10/9, 6/5) = 84.126°
 
Minimax tuning:
* 13- and 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 26, 46, 72, 152f, 198, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1258 }}
 
Badness: 0.341 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
=== Rym ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 3025/3024, 4096/4095, 4375/4374
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 0 2 5 22 | 0 1 0 7 5 -9 | 0 0 1 -4 -3 3 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 46, 72f, 106, 118, 152, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1106, 1376, 1870 }}
 
Badness: 0.549 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
=== Donar ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 3025/3024, 4225/4224, 4375/4374
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 1 -2 2 7 | 0 1 0 7 5 3 | 0 0 2 -8 -6 -5 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~220/117
 
Mapping to lattice: [{{val| 0 2 2 6 4 1 }}, {{val| 0 -1 -2 1 1 2 }}]
 
Lattice basis:  
: 44/39 length = 0.3480, 6/5 length = 0.7828
: Angle (44/39, 6/5) = 85.3977°
 
Minimax tuning:
* 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.11/5
* 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.15/11
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 34d, 46, 80, 144, 178, 190, 224, 494, 684, 764, 954, 1178, 1448, 6970ceeff, 8418ceeff }}
 
Badness: 0.322 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
 
Scales: [[Donar46]]
 
== Heimdall ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
 
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 117649/117612
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 1 2 | 0 2 0 14 37 | 0 0 1 -4 -12 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~343/198, ~5
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 72, 198, 270, 342, 612, 954, 1205, 1475, 1547, 1817, 2159, 4660, 4930, 6819, 7089, 9590d, 11749d }}
 
== Bragi ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
 
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 2097152/2096325
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 2 -7 8 | 0 1 0 7 -3 | 0 0 3 -12 2 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~320/297
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 46, 111d, 159d, 178, 205, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1053, 1277, 1323, 1547, 1817, 4128, 10073bdee, 14201bdeee }}
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 2080/2079, 4375/4374, 10985/10976
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 2 -7 8 -6 | 0 1 0 7 -3 7 | 0 0 3 -12 2 -13 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 46, 111df, 159df, 178, 205, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1258, 1771, 2041f, 2265, 2535f }}
 
== Vidar ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
 
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 100663296/100656875
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 1 5 | 0 1 4 -9 -3 | 0 0 -5 20 4 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~96/55
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 46, 91, 133d, 137d, 178, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1395, 1619, 1665, 1889, 2159, 2653, 4812, 7735, 9894 }}
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 4225/4224, 4375/4374, 6656/6655
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 1 5 6 | 0 1 4 -9 -3 -5 | 0 0 -5 20 4 7 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 46, 87d, 91, 133d, 137d, 178, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1125, 1395, 1619, 1665, 1889, 4048, 4542, 6431f }}
 
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This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

The ragismic family of temperaments are rank-3 microtemperaments which temper out 4375/4374.

Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:

Considered below are beyla, ulmo, thor, heimdall, bragi, and vidar.

Ragismic

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 4375/4374

Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 1], ⟨0 1 0 7], ⟨0 0 1 -4]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5

Mapping to lattice: [⟨0 -1 -1 -3], ⟨0 -1 -2 1]]

Lattice basis:

10/9 length = 0.789, 6/5 length = 0.921
Angle (10/9, 6/5) = 105.299°

Minimax tuning:

Optimal ET sequence: 19, 27, 45, 46, 53, 72, 99, 171, 441, 612, 935, 1106, 1277, 1547, 1718, 4983, 6701, 8419, 17279c

Projection pair: ~7 = ~4374/625

Scales: Ragismic19, Ragismic chromatic

Beyla

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 385/384, 4375/4374

Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 1 6], ⟨0 1 0 7 -6], ⟨0 0 1 -4 3]]

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 19, 26, 45, 46, 53, 72, 118, 190, 315e, 361e, 433de, 623cdee

Badness: 0.721 × 10-3

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 169/168, 325/324, 385/384

Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 1 6 2], ⟨0 1 0 7 -6 4], ⟨0 0 1 -4 3 -2]]

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 19, 26, 46, 53, 72, 118f, 125f, 171ef, 190ff, 197ef, 243eff

Badness: 0.840 × 10-3

Ulmo

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 176/175, 2200/2187

Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 1 -3], ⟨0 1 0 7 7], ⟨0 0 1 -4 -2]]

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 39, 46, 53, 80, 126, 179, 259cd, 385bcd

Badness: 1.23 × 10-3

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 169/168, 176/175, 325/324

Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 1 -3 2], ⟨0 1 0 7 7 4], ⟨0 0 1 -4 -2 -2]]

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 39, 46, 53, 80, 133d, 179, 312cdf

Badness: 0.932 × 10-3

Thor

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 3025/3024, 4375/4374

Mapping: [⟨2 0 0 2 5], ⟨0 1 0 7 5], ⟨0 0 1 -4 -3]]

mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~5

Minimax tuning:

Optimal ET sequence: 26, 34d, 46, 72, 118, 152, 224, 270, 342, 494, 612, 836, 1106, 1448, 2554, 4002e, 5720e, 7168cee

Badness: 0.0888 × 10-3

Projection pairs: 2 = ~9801/4900, ~7 = ~21434787/3062500, ~11 = ~2310905821257/210087500000 to 3.5.14/11

Thunor

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 1716/1715, 2080/2079, 3025/3024

Mapping: [⟨2 0 0 2 5 -3], ⟨0 1 0 7 5 15], ⟨0 0 1 -4 -3 -8]]

Mapping to lattice: [⟨0 -1 -2 -3 -2 -7], ⟨0 -1 -2 1 1 1]]

Lattice basis:

10/9 length = 0.4234, 6/5 length = 0.8426
Angle (10/9, 6/5) = 84.126°

Minimax tuning:

  • 13- and 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.9/7.13

Optimal ET sequence: 26, 46, 72, 152f, 198, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1258

Badness: 0.341 × 10-3

Rym

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 3025/3024, 4096/4095, 4375/4374

Mapping: [⟨2 0 0 2 5 22], ⟨0 1 0 7 5 -9], ⟨0 0 1 -4 -3 3]]

Optimal ET sequence: 46, 72f, 106, 118, 152, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1106, 1376, 1870

Badness: 0.549 × 10-3

Donar

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 3025/3024, 4225/4224, 4375/4374

Mapping: [⟨2 0 1 -2 2 7], ⟨0 1 0 7 5 3], ⟨0 0 2 -8 -6 -5]]

mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~220/117

Mapping to lattice: [⟨0 2 2 6 4 1], ⟨0 -1 -2 1 1 2]]

Lattice basis:

44/39 length = 0.3480, 6/5 length = 0.7828
Angle (44/39, 6/5) = 85.3977°

Minimax tuning:

  • 13-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.11/5
  • 15-odd-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.15/11

Optimal ET sequence: 34d, 46, 80, 144, 178, 190, 224, 494, 684, 764, 954, 1178, 1448, 6970ceeff, 8418ceeff

Badness: 0.322 × 10-3

Scales: Donar46

Heimdall

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 4375/4374, 117649/117612

Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 1 2], ⟨0 2 0 14 37], ⟨0 0 1 -4 -12]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~343/198, ~5

Optimal ET sequence: 72, 198, 270, 342, 612, 954, 1205, 1475, 1547, 1817, 2159, 4660, 4930, 6819, 7089, 9590d, 11749d

Bragi

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 4375/4374, 2097152/2096325

Mapping: [⟨1 0 2 -7 8], ⟨0 1 0 7 -3], ⟨0 0 3 -12 2]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~320/297

Optimal ET sequence: 46, 111d, 159d, 178, 205, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1053, 1277, 1323, 1547, 1817, 4128, 10073bdee, 14201bdeee

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 2080/2079, 4375/4374, 10985/10976

Mapping: [⟨1 0 2 -7 8 -6], ⟨0 1 0 7 -3 7], ⟨0 0 3 -12 2 -13]]

Optimal ET sequence: 46, 111df, 159df, 178, 205, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1258, 1771, 2041f, 2265, 2535f

Vidar

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 4375/4374, 100663296/100656875

Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 1 5], ⟨0 1 4 -9 -3], ⟨0 0 -5 20 4]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~96/55

Optimal ET sequence: 46, 91, 133d, 137d, 178, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1395, 1619, 1665, 1889, 2159, 2653, 4812, 7735, 9894

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 4225/4224, 4375/4374, 6656/6655

Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 1 5 6], ⟨0 1 4 -9 -3 -5], ⟨0 0 -5 20 4 7]]

Optimal ET sequence: 46, 87d, 91, 133d, 137d, 178, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1125, 1395, 1619, 1665, 1889, 4048, 4542, 6431f

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