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31-limit is quite high! Also - excessively complex ratios and fix wiki markup
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added ups-and-downs template and another possible notation for completeness
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! Evo
! Evo
| rowspan="2" | {{Sagittal| |( }}
| rowspan="2" | <big>{{Sagittal| |( }}</big>
| rowspan="2" | {{Sagittal| )|( }}
| rowspan="2" | <big>{{Sagittal| )|( }}</big>
| rowspan="2" | {{Sagittal| ~|( }}
| rowspan="2" | <big>{{Sagittal| ~|( }}</big>
| rowspan="2" | {{Sagittal| /| }}
| rowspan="2" | <big>{{Sagittal| /| }}</big>
| rowspan="2" | {{Sagittal| |) }}
| rowspan="2" | <big>{{Sagittal| |) }}</big>
| rowspan="2" | {{Sagittal| (| }}
| rowspan="2" | <big>{{Sagittal| (| }}</big>
| rowspan="2" | {{Sagittal| (|( }}
| rowspan="2" | <big>{{Sagittal| (|( }}</big>
| rowspan="2" | {{Sagittal| //| }}
| rowspan="2" | <big>{{Sagittal| //| }}</big>
| rowspan="2" | {{Sagittal| /|) }}
| rowspan="2" | <big>{{Sagittal| /|) }}</big>
| rowspan="2" | {{Sagittal| /|\ }}
| rowspan="2" | <big>{{Sagittal| /|\ }}</big>
| {{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| \!/ }}
| <big>{{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| \!/ }}</big>
| {{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| \!) }}
| <big>{{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| \!) }}</big>
| {{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| \\! }}
| <big>{{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| \\! }}</big>
| {{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| (!( }}
| <big>{{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| (!( }}</big>
| {{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| (! }}
| <big>{{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| (! }}</big>
| {{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| !) }}
| <big>{{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| !) }}</big>
| {{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| \! }}
| <big>{{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| \! }}</big>
| {{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| ~!( }}
| <big>{{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| ~!( }}</big>
| {{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| )!( }}
| <big>{{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| )!( }}</big>
| {{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| !( }}
| <big>{{Sagittal|#}}{{sagittal| !( }}</big>
| {{Sagittal|#}}
| <big>{{Sagittal|#}}</big>
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! Revo
! Revo
| {{Sagittal| (|) }}
| <big>{{Sagittal| (|) }}</big>
| {{Sagittal| (|\ }}
| <big>{{Sagittal| (|\ }}</big>
| {{Sagittal| )||( }}
| <big>{{Sagittal| )||( }}</big>
| {{Sagittal| ~||( }}
| <big>{{Sagittal| ~||( }}</big>
| {{Sagittal| )||~ }}
| <big>{{Sagittal| )||~ }}</big>
| {{Sagittal| ||) }}
| <big>{{Sagittal| ||) }}</big>
| {{Sagittal| ||\ }}
| <big>{{Sagittal| ||\ }}</big>
| {{Sagittal| (||( }}
| <big>{{Sagittal| (||( }}</big>
| {{Sagittal| //|| }}
| <big>{{Sagittal| //|| }}</big>
| {{Sagittal| /||) }}
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=== Ups-and-downs notation ===
=== Ups-and-downs notation ===
The 5-up (quup) alteration neatly maps to the pythagorean-septimal comma.
The 5-up (quup) alteration neatly maps to the pythagorean-septimal comma.{{Ups and downs sharpness|217|false}}
 
=== 31edo-based meantone notation ===
Since {{nowrap| 217 {{=}} 31 × 7 }}, one ''could'' base the notation on its inherited meantone fifth 126\217 (18\31) instead of its best fifth.
 
This could be useful when [[31edo]] is used as a base tuning, where the whole palette of 217edo is only used to provide subtle inflections of the 31edo pitches, similar to how one might use [[159edo]] to provide subtle corrections of [[53edo]] pitches. It also can be written with SZ half-sharps and up/down. The main drawback of this notation is that the best fifth is '''^P5''', so that ~4:5:6 is from C written as C-E-^G, compared to C-^<E-G to the usual chain-of-fifths ups-and-downs notation.


{| class="wikitable center-all"
{| class="wikitable center-all"
|+Ups-and-downs notation
|+Alternative 31edo-based notation
|-
! Steps
! Steps
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! rowspan="2" | Symbol
| ^
| rowspan="2" | ^
| ^^
| rowspan="2" | ^^
| ^^^
| rowspan="2" | ^^^
| vvvt
| vvt
| vt
| t
| ^t
| ^^t
| ^^^t
| v#
| vv#
| vvv#
| #
|-
| v>
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| >
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|-
| <<<<#
| ^<<<<#
| vvv<<<#
| vv<<<#
| v<<<#
| <<<#
| ^<<<#
| vvv<<#
| vv<<#
| v<<#
|-
! Steps
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| ^>>
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| rowspan="2" | #
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| <<#
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|}


=== 31edo-based notation ===
=== '''7edo-based whitewood notation''' ===
Since {{nowrap| 217 {{=}} 31 × 7 }}, one ''could'' base the notation on its inherited meantone fifth 126\217 (18\31) instead of its best fifth.
Since {{nowrap| 217 {{=}} 7 × 31}}, one '''''could''''' use the inherited [[Whitewood family|whitewood]] fifth, ditch sharps and flats, and instead use ups and downs to represent pitch deviations from the perfect nominals. Since 31=15*2+1, all pitches can be notated with ups, downs, quips and quids. ~4:5:6 becomes C-^^^>E-^^^G.
 
This could be useful when [[31edo]] is used as a base tuning, where the whole palette of 217edo is only used to provide subtle inflections of the 31edo pitches, similar to how one might use [[159edo]] to provide subtle corrections of [[53edo]] pitches.
 
{| class="wikitable center-all"
{| class="wikitable center-all"
|+Alternative 31edo-based notation
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|-
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!Flat
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