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Don't fight me on this. Char has a lower accuracy that is more associated with 120/119 than with this comma. If that temp should make this a char comma then it'd also make the marvel comma a char comma
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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Name = charisma, char comma, septendecimal kleisma, octave-reduced 255th subharmonic
| Name = charisma, septendecimal kleisma, octave-reduced 255th subharmonic
| Color name = 17ug1, sugu 1sn, Sugu comma
| Color name = 17ug1, sugu 1sn, Sugu comma
| Comma = yes
| Comma = yes
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{{Redirect-distinguish|Charisma|Horcrux}}
{{Redirect-distinguish|Charisma|Horcrux}}


'''256/255''', the '''septendecimal kleisma''', '''charisma''' or '''octave-reduced 255th subharmonic''' is a [[small comma|small]] [[17-limit]] [[superparticular]] comma about 6.8 [[cent]]s in size. It is the difference between [[16/15]] (the classical diatonic semitone) and [[17/16]] (the large septendecimal semitone), the difference between [[128/85]] (the archagall fifth) and [[3/2]] (the just perfect fifth), and the amount by which a stack consisting of [[15/8]] and 17/16 falls short of an [[octave]]. It is a [[Mersenne comma]].
'''256/255''', the '''charisma''', '''septendecimal kleisma''', or '''octave-reduced 255th subharmonic''' is a [[small comma|small]] [[17-limit]] [[superparticular]] comma about 6.8 [[cent]]s in size. It is the difference between [[16/15]] (the classical diatonic semitone) and [[17/16]] (the large septendecimal semitone), the difference between [[128/85]] (the archagall fifth) and [[3/2]] (the just perfect fifth), and the amount by which a stack consisting of [[15/8]] and 17/16 falls short of an [[octave]]. It is a [[Mersenne comma]].


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
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By also tempering out the semitonisma ([[289/288]] = S17), an efficient but lower accuracy temperament known as [[srutal archagall]] is achieved, which has [[17/15]]~[[9/8]] and therefore makes the minor third reached by the circle of fifths equal to ~[[20/17]].
By also tempering out the semitonisma ([[289/288]] = S17), an efficient but lower accuracy temperament known as [[srutal archagall]] is achieved, which has [[17/15]]~[[9/8]] and therefore makes the minor third reached by the circle of fifths equal to ~[[20/17]].


=== Char temperament ===
=== Char ===
The charic temperament has an immediate 2.3.5.7.17 subgroup extension, the [[Marvel family #Char|char temperament]]. It tempers out both [[225/224|S15]] and S16, which has [[17/15]]~[[8/7]] and [[20/17]]~[[7/6]].  
The charic temperament has an immediate 2.3.5.7.17 subgroup extension, the [[Marvel family #Char|char]] temperament. It tempers out both [[225/224|S15]] and S16, as well as their sum, [[120/119]], which induces the equivalences [[17/15]]~[[8/7]] and [[20/17]]~[[7/6]].


== Etymology and history ==
== Etymology and history ==