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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Icon =
| Name = tannisma, prototannisma
| Ratio = 273/272
| Color name = 17u3oz1, suthozo 1sn,<br>Suthozo comma
| Monzo = -4 1 0 1 0 1 -1
| Comma = yes
| Cents = 6.35316
| Name = tannisma
| Color name = Suthozo
| FJS name =
| Sound =  
}}
}}


'''273/272''', the '''tannisma''', is a [[small comma|small]] [[17-limit]] comma with a value of roughly 6.35 [[cent]]s. It forms the difference between [[21/17]] and [[16/13]], as well as the difference between [[39/32]] and [[17/14]]. Equating these two sets of intervals is characteristic of '''tannismic temperaments'''.
'''273/272''', the '''tannisma''', or the '''prototannisma''', is a [[small comma|small]] [[17-limit]] (also 2.3.7.13.17 [[subgroup]]) [[comma]] with a value of roughly 6.35 [[cent]]s. It forms the difference between [[21/17]] and [[16/13]], and the difference between [[39/32]] and [[17/14]], as well as the difference between [[17/13]] and [[21/16]].  


[[Category:17-limit]]
== Commatic relations ==
[[Category:Small comma]]
This comma is the difference between the following superparticular pairs:
[[Category:Superparticular]]
* [[35/34]] and [[40/39]]
* [[52/51]] and [[64/63]]
* [[65/64]] and [[85/84]]
* [[91/90]] and [[136/135]]
* [[154/153]] and [[352/351]]
* [[169/168]] and [[442/441]]
* [[221/220]] and [[1156/1155]]
* [[225/224]] and [[1275/1274]]
* [[256/255]] and [[4096/4095]]
 
It factors into the following superparticular pairs:  
* [[441/440]] and [[715/714]]
* [[385/384]] and [[936/935]]
* [[375/374]] and [[1001/1000]]
* [[364/363]] and [[1089/1088]]
* [[351/350]] and [[1225/1224]]
* [[325/324]] and [[1701/1700]]
* [[289/288]] and [[4914/4913]]
 
== Temperaments ==
Tempering out this comma in the 17-limit leads to the rank-6 '''prototannismic temperament''', or in the 2.3.7.13.17 subgroup, the rank-4 '''prototannic temperament''', both characterized by the equivalences introduced above, and lead to a type of essentially tempered chords called [[prototannismic chords]]. The prototannic temperament has a notable [[extension|weak extension]] to the full 17-limit called [[tannic]]. However, that is not all, as according to [[Scott Dakota]], tannic is actually of similar overall utility to [[marvel temperament]]<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/497105067092502/posts/1158638974272438/ Relevant Facebook post by Scott Dakota]</ref>.
 
=== Prototannismic ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
 
[[Comma list]]: 273/272
 
[[Mapping]]: <br>
{| class="right-all"
|-
| [⟨ || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || -4 || ],
|-
| ⟨ || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || ],
|-
| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || ],
|-
| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 1 || ],
|-
| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || ],
|-
| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 1 || ]]
|}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5, ~7, ~11, ~13
 
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 701.5638, ~5/4, ~7/4 = 967.5985, ~11/8, ~13/8 = 838.3951
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17cg, 19eg, 22, 26, 27eg, 29g, 31, 41, 46, 72, 103, 130g, 149, 159, 221ef, 262df, 308def, 334cdf }}
 
=== Prototannic ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.7.13.17
 
[[Comma list]]: 273/272
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 0 -4 | 0 1 0 0 1 | 0 0 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 1 1 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~7, ~13
 
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 701.5638, ~7/4 = 967.5985, ~13/8 = 838.3951
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 17g, 24, 26, 31, 36, 113, 149 }}
 
== Etymology ==
This comma was named by Scott Dakota, who also devised tannic temperament, as the ''tannisma'' no later than 2017. The name ''tannisma'' does not adhere to the wiki comma logging standard that a comma name "X-isma" should not be associated to a temperament "X-ic" if "X-ic" is a weak extension of the temperament induced by the comma, since 17-limit tannic is a weak extension of 2.3.7.13.17[273/272] (see above). ''Prototannisma'' has thus been proposed as an alternative name.
 
== References ==
<references/>
 
[[Category:Prototannismic]]
[[Category:Commas with unknown etymology]]

Latest revision as of 00:39, 16 November 2024

Interval information
Ratio 273/272
Factorization 2-4 × 3 × 7 × 13 × 17-1
Monzo [-4 1 0 1 0 1 -1⟩
Size in cents 6.35316¢
Names tannisma,
prototannisma
Color name 17u3oz1, suthozo 1sn,
Suthozo comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{P1}^{7,13}_{17} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced
Tenney height (log2 nd) 16.1802
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 16.1855
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 48
Comma size small
Open this interval in xen-calc

273/272, the tannisma, or the prototannisma, is a small 17-limit (also 2.3.7.13.17 subgroup) comma with a value of roughly 6.35 cents. It forms the difference between 21/17 and 16/13, and the difference between 39/32 and 17/14, as well as the difference between 17/13 and 21/16.

Commatic relations

This comma is the difference between the following superparticular pairs:

It factors into the following superparticular pairs:

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma in the 17-limit leads to the rank-6 prototannismic temperament, or in the 2.3.7.13.17 subgroup, the rank-4 prototannic temperament, both characterized by the equivalences introduced above, and lead to a type of essentially tempered chords called prototannismic chords. The prototannic temperament has a notable weak extension to the full 17-limit called tannic. However, that is not all, as according to Scott Dakota, tannic is actually of similar overall utility to marvel temperament[1].

Prototannismic

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 273/272

Mapping:

[⟨ 1 0 0 0 0 0 -4 ],
⟨ 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 ],
⟨ 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 ],
⟨ 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 ],
⟨ 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 ],
⟨ 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 ]]
mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5, ~7, ~11, ~13

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 701.5638, ~5/4, ~7/4 = 967.5985, ~11/8, ~13/8 = 838.3951

Optimal ET sequence: 17cg, 19eg, 22, 26, 27eg, 29g, 31, 41, 46, 72, 103, 130g, 149, 159, 221ef, 262df, 308def, 334cdf

Prototannic

Subgroup: 2.3.7.13.17

Comma list: 273/272

Mapping: [⟨1 0 0 0 -4], ⟨0 1 0 0 1], ⟨0 0 1 0 1], ⟨0 0 0 1 1]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~7, ~13

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 701.5638, ~7/4 = 967.5985, ~13/8 = 838.3951

Optimal ET sequence: 10, 17g, 24, 26, 31, 36, 113, 149

Etymology

This comma was named by Scott Dakota, who also devised tannic temperament, as the tannisma no later than 2017. The name tannisma does not adhere to the wiki comma logging standard that a comma name "X-isma" should not be associated to a temperament "X-ic" if "X-ic" is a weak extension of the temperament induced by the comma, since 17-limit tannic is a weak extension of 2.3.7.13.17[273/272] (see above). Prototannisma has thus been proposed as an alternative name.

References

  1. ↑ Relevant Facebook post by Scott Dakota
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