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* [[Jove]] (+441/440 or 540/539) → [[Breed family #Jove|Breed family]] | * [[Jove]] (+441/440 or 540/539) → [[Breed family #Jove|Breed family]] | ||
* ''[[Hagrid]]'' (+9801/9800) → [[Cataharry family #Hagrid|Cataharry family]] | * ''[[Hagrid]]'' (+9801/9800) → [[Cataharry family #Hagrid|Cataharry family]] | ||
Considered below are spectacle, mirwomo, mandos, cuckoo, parahemif, urania, rabic, and mirage. | |||
== Spectacle == | == Spectacle == | ||
Spectacle, named by [[Gene Ward Smith]] in 2010<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_17700.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Spectacle temperament?'']</ref>, can be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 34d & 41 }} temperament. It tempers out 225/224, making it a sort of marvel infested with neutral thirds. It is therefore generated by octaves, major thirds, and neutral thirds. 3/2 is equated with a stack of two 11/9's as a corollary of 243/242 being tempered out, 7/4 is equated with a stack of four 11/9's and two 5/4's, 11/8 is equated with a stack of five 11/9's, 13/8 is equated with a stack of two 18/11's and four 5/4's, and 17/16 is equated with three 18/11's and three 5/4's. Every harmonic is reached with help of other intervals at most with three 5/4's. | Spectacle, named by [[Gene Ward Smith]] in 2010<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_17700.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Spectacle temperament?'']</ref>, can be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 34d & 41 }} temperament. It tempers out 225/224, making it a sort of marvel infested with neutral thirds. It is therefore generated by octaves, major thirds, and neutral thirds. 3/2 is equated with a stack of two 11/9's as a corollary of 243/242 being tempered out, 7/4 is equated with a stack of four 11/9's and two 5/4's, 11/8 is equated with a stack of five 11/9's, 13/8 is equated with a stack of two 18/11's and four 5/4's, and 17/16 is equated with three 18/11's and three 5/4's. Every harmonic is reached with help of other intervals at most with three 5/4's. | ||
It is [[associated temperament|associated]] with the [[marvo]] temperamment. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 0 -3 2 | 0 2 0 4 5 | 0 0 1 2 0 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 0 -3 2 | 0 2 0 4 5 | 0 0 1 2 0 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9, ~5 | : mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9, ~5 | ||
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.1758{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.0951{{c}} | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.1758{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.0951{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.603 -2.219 +0.068 -0.439 }} | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.603 -2.219 +0.068 -0.439 }} | ||
[[Minimax tuning]]: | [[Minimax tuning]]: | ||
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: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/5.11 | : [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/5.11 | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 31, 41, 65d, 72, 247c, 281, 353c, 425bc, 497bc }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 24d, 31, 41, 65d, 72, 247c, 281, 353c, 425bc, 497bc }} | ||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.599 | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.599 | ||
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Scales: [[spectacle31]] | Scales: [[spectacle31]] | ||
=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
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* WE: ~2 = 1200.6024{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.1004{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.5435{{c}} | * WE: ~2 = 1200.6024{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.1004{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.5435{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.0393{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.5866{{c}} | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.0393{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.5866{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 65d, 72, 103, 175f, 312bf, 384bcf, 487bceff }} <nowiki>*</nowiki> | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 65d, 72, 103, 175f, 312bf, 384bcf, 487bceff }} <nowiki>*</nowiki> | ||
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Badness (Sintel): 0.944 | Badness (Sintel): 0.944 | ||
== Mirwomo == | == Mirwomo == | ||
: ''For the 7-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 7-limit temperaments #Mirwomo]].'' | |||
[[ | |||
Mirwomo tempers out 385/384 and may be described as the {{nowrap| 24 & 31 & 41 }} temperament, equating the undecimal quartertone ~33/32 with the septimal quartertone ~36/35. | |||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 0 6 2 | 0 2 0 -3 5 | 0 0 1 -1 0 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 0 6 2 | 0 2 0 -3 5 | 0 0 1 -1 0 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9, ~5 | |||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.0035{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.0785{{c}} | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.0035{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.0785{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.948 -2.235 -2.915 -1.301 }} | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.948 -2.235 -2.915 -1.301 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17, 21e, 24, 31, 41, 72, 247c, 312bd, 384bcdd, 456bcdde, 528bcdde, 631bbccdde }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17, 21e, 24, 31, 41, 72, 247c, 312bd, 384bcdd, 456bcdde, 528bcdde, 631bbccdde }} | ||
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[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.770 | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.770 | ||
== | == Mandos == | ||
Mandos tempers out 176/175 and may be described as the {{nowrap| 24 & 27e & 31 }} temperament. | |||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 0 6 2 | 0 2 0 5 5 | 0 0 1 -2 0 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 0 6 2 | 0 2 0 5 5 | 0 0 1 -2 0 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9, ~5 | : mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9, ~5 | ||
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.5548{{c}}, ~5/4 = 390.2690{{c}} | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.5548{{c}}, ~5/4 = 390.2690{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.845 +3.955 +3.410 +1.456 }} | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.845 +3.955 +3.410 +1.456 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 24, 27e, 31, 58, 89, 154d, 181cde, 212cde, 301ccde }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 24, 27e, 31, 58, 89, 154d, 181cde, 212cde, 301ccde }} | ||
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* WE: ~2 = 1198.5555{{c}}, ~11/9 = 351.0300{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.0458{{c}} | * WE: ~2 = 1198.5555{{c}}, ~11/9 = 351.0300{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.0458{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 351.1554{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.1227{{c}} | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 351.1554{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.1227{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, 27e, 31, 58, 123df, 181cdeff, 239ccddeefff }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, 27e, 31, 58, 123df, 181cdeff, 239ccddeefff }} | ||
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Badness (Sintel): 0.863 | Badness (Sintel): 0.863 | ||
== | == Cuckoo == | ||
Cuckoo, named by [[Johannes Werpup]] in 2014<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_106371.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Temperament ideas: A cuckoo, and two oracles'']</ref>, tempers out 126/125 and may be described as the {{nowrap| 24d & 27e & 31 }} temperament. | |||
[[ | |||
[[ | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 243/242 | |||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~ | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 0 -3 2 | 0 2 0 -4 5 | 0 0 1 3 0 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9, ~5 | |||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199. | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.8222{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.4356{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.8478{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0. | : [[error map]]: {{val| -0.178 -1.262 +3.178 -1.558 +0.504 }} | ||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~ | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.4213{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.7308{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 + | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.112 +3.417 -1.318 +0.788 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 24d, 27e, 31, 58, 89, 154, 185 }} | |||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.12 | |||
=== 13-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 243/242 | |||
[[ | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 0 -3 2 -5 | 0 2 0 -4 5 -10 | 0 0 1 3 0 5 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7103{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.5840{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.8071{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 350.5682{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.6104{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 27e, 31, 58, 96d, 154 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.23 | |||
== Parahemif == | |||
: ''For the 7-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 7-limit temperaments #Parahemif]].'' | |||
Parahemif tempers out 896/891 and may be described as the {{nowrap| 24 & 34d & 41 }} temperament. It is related to [[hemif]], the no-5 rank-2 temperament that tempers out the same list of commas. As such, it finds the interval class of 7 at +13 generator steps, as a semi-augmented sixth (C–At). In the 13-limit, it tempers out 144/143, 352/351, 364/363 among others, and finds ~16/13 at the same neutral third as ~11/9. | |||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 0 -1 2 | 0 2 0 13 5 | 0 0 1 0 0 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 0 -1 2 | 0 2 0 13 5 | 0 0 1 0 0 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9, ~5 | |||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 351.4593{{c}}, ~5/4 = 387.4226{{c}} | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 351.4593{{c}}, ~5/4 = 387.4226{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.964 +1.109 +0.145 +5.979 }} | : error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.964 +1.109 +0.145 +5.979 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 24, 34d, 41, 58, 99e }} * | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 24, 34d, 41, 58, 99e }} * | ||
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* WE: ~2 = 1198.7603{{c}}, ~11/9 = 351.3275{{c}}, ~5/4 = 388.7872{{c}} | * WE: ~2 = 1198.7603{{c}}, ~11/9 = 351.3275{{c}}, ~5/4 = 388.7872{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 351.6042{{c}}, ~5/4 = 388.4720{{c}} | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 351.6042{{c}}, ~5/4 = 388.4720{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 17c, 24, 34d, 41, 58, 99ef, 157eff, 290cdeeefff }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 17c, 24, 34d, 41, 58, 99ef, 157eff, 290cdeeefff }} | ||
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== Urania == | == Urania == | ||
Urania tempers out 81/80, the syntonic comma. It is essentially [[mohaha]] with an independent generator for prime 7. | |||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 0 0 2 | 0 2 8 0 5 | 0 0 0 1 0 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 0 0 2 | 0 2 8 0 5 | 0 0 0 1 0 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9, ~7 | : mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9, ~7 | ||
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 348.3793{{c}}, ~7/4 = 965.6304{{c}} | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 348.3793{{c}}, ~7/4 = 965.6304{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -5.196 +0.721 -3.196 -9.421 }} | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -5.196 +0.721 -3.196 -9.421 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 14c, 17c, 24, 31, 100de, 131bdee, 162bdee }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 14c, 17c, 24, 31, 100de, 131bdee, 162bdee }} | ||
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Scales: [[urania24]] | Scales: [[urania24]] | ||
== Rabic == | |||
If the rastma is added to the list of commas along with the [[Alpharabian comma]], you end up with rabic, which splits the octave into 24 equal parts. This temperament is named as such by [[Aura]] in 2022 because tempering out both the Alpharabian comma and the rastma automatically tempers out the [[Betarabian comma]]. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 243/242, 131769/131072 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 24 38 0 0 83 | 0 0 1 0 0 | 0 0 0 1 0 }} | |||
: mapping generators: ~33/32, ~5, ~7 | |||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | |||
* [[WE]]: ~33/32 = 50.0220{{c}}, ~5/4 = 385.0647{{c}}, ~7/4 = 967.3158{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.538 -1.104 -0.002 -0.002 +0.541 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~33/32 = 50.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 385.0647{{c}}, ~7/4 = 967.3158{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 -0.937 -1.133 -1.318 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 24, 48(d), 72, 264, 336b, 408b, 480bcde }} | |||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 7.30 | |||
=== Gunn === | |||
{{Todo|inline=1|complete section|unify precision|comment= Sort the comma basis. Normalize the mapping. Unify the cent values in optimal tunings to 4 decimal places. Add the optimal ET sequence. <br>Add the data for the 13- and 17-limit versions. }} | |||
==== 19-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | |||
Comma list: 729/728, 273/272, 153/152, 364/363, 1729/1728 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 24 38 48 48 83 108 98 102 | 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 1 0 -1 0 0 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~33/32 = 50.030{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.859{{c}}, ~7/4 = 965.679{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| +0.724 -0.809 -0.007 -1.700 +1.185 -2.949 -2.000 +5.563 }} | |||
* CWE: ~33/32 = 50.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.837{{c}}, ~7/4 = 965.136{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| -0.000 -1.955 -1.476 -3.690 -1.318 -5.663 -4.955 2.487 }} | |||
Supporting ETs: {{Edos| 24p, 72, 48f, 24c, 24df, 48cf, 48d, 96d, 48cd, 24cdf }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 3.285 | |||
== Mirage == | |||
Mirage is [[miracle]] with an independent generator for prime 13. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 243/242, 385/384 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 3 3 2 0 | 0 6 -7 -2 15 0 | 0 0 0 0 0 1 }} | |||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~15/14, ~13 | |||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | |||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.7626{{c}}, ~15/14 = 116.7069{{c}}, ~13/8 = 838.2364{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.763 -0.951 -0.974 +0.048 +0.810 -0.004 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~15/14 = 116.6469{{c}}, ~13/8 = 838.2123{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -2.074 -2.842 -2.120 -1.615 -2.315 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 31, 41, 62, 72, 103, 175f, 216c, 288cdf, 391bcdef }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.691 | |||
=== 17-limit === | |||
Mirage is very naturally a 17-limit temperament, relating 13 and 17 by tempering out [[273/272]], [[715/714]], [[833/832]], and [[936/935]]. Instead of 13/8, the second generator can also be the small comma tempered out by [[miraculous]]. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | |||
Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 385/384 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 3 3 2 0 0 | 0 6 -7 -2 15 0 4 | 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.7628{{c}}, ~15/14 = 116.6995{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.1672{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~15/14 = 116.6395{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.1424{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 41, 62, 72, 103, 175f, 360bcdff, 463bccdeff }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.715 | |||
=== 19-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | |||
Comma list: 210/209, 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 343/342 | |||
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}} | |||
==== 23-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23 | |||
Comma list: 210/209, 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 300/299, 385/384 | |||
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}} | |||
=== Prism === | |||
{{Redirect|Prism|the scale|Prism (scale)}} | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | |||
Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 324/323, 385/384 | |||
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}} | |||
==== 23-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23 | |||
Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 300/299, 324/323, 385/384 | |||
{{Todo|complete temperament data|inline=1}} | |||
== References == | == References == | ||
[[Category:Rastmic rank-3 clan| ]] <!-- main article --> | |||
[[Category:Temperament clans]] | [[Category:Temperament clans]] | ||
[[Category: | [[Category:Catalogs of rank-3 temperaments]] | ||