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Revision as of 12:55, 10 May 2023
Unnoticeable commas are very small intervals. These commas are called "unnoticeable" because, being equal to or less than 3.5 cents, they are smaller than the average peak JND (just-noticeable difference) of human pitch perception, as illustrated by the research of Aaron Andrew Hunt. It is improbable that even a trained listener would be able to notice these intervals, and as such they a prime target for psychoacoustically informed microtempering. (However, a considerably larger comma can be unnoticeable in an adaptive tuning context. Instead of one large pitch shift of the entire comma, there can be many small pitch shifts of a fraction of a comma, one per chord change.)
For commas over 100 cents in size, see Large comma; for commas in between 30 and 100 cents in size, see Medium comma; and for commas over 3.5 cents in size, see Small comma.
Due to the wide range of sizes, cents values here and on the other commas pages are listed to 5 significant digits, instead of to a fixed number of decimal places as is the convention elsewhere on the wiki. Except for the 3-limit commas, the color name refers to both the comma and the temperament created when it is tempered out.
List of commas, by prime limit
3-limit commas
Name(s) | Color Name | Monzo | Cents | Denomination | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
359-comma | Wa-359 | w-359 | [-569 359⟩ | 1.8453 | |
Sasktel comma | Wa-306 | w-306 | [485 -306⟩ | 1.7697 | |
Satanic comma | Wa-665 | w-665 | [-1054 665⟩ | 0.075575 | |
15601-comma | Wa-15601 | w-15601 | [24727 -15601⟩ | 0.031499 | |
31867-comma | Wa-31867 | w-31867 | [-50508 31867⟩ | 0.012577 | |
Archangelic comma | Wa-190537 comma | w-190537 | [301994 -190537⟩ | 0.000112 | Aura (2022) |
5-limit commas
Name(s) | Color Name | Ratio | Monzo | Cents | Denomination | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Dodifo comma | Quadla-sepquinyo | L4y35-9 | [-67 -9 35⟩ | 3.3850 | ||
Vishnuzma, semisuper comma | Sasepbigu | sg144 | 6115295232/6103515625 | [23 6 -14⟩ | 3.3380 | |
Enneadeca, 19-tone-comma | Neyo | y19-4 | 19073486328125/19042491875328 | [-14 -19 19⟩ | 2.8155 | |
Vavoom comma | Quinla-seyo | L5y17-7 | [-68 18 17⟩ | 2.5232 | ||
Tricot comma | Quadsa-triyo | s4y33 | 68719476736000/68630377364883 | [39 -29 3⟩ | 2.2461 | |
Schisma | Layo | Ly-2 | 32805/32768 | [-15 8 1⟩ | 1.9537 | |
Counterschisma | Tribilagu | L6g-5 | [-69 45 -1⟩ | 1.6613 | ||
Septendecima | Lala-sebiyo | LLy34-8 | [-52 -17 34⟩ | 1.4313 | ||
Luna comma, hemithirds comma | Sasa-quintrigu | ssg155 | 274877906944/274658203125 | [38 -2 -15⟩ | 1.3843 | |
Minortone comma, minortonma | Trila-segu | L3g172 | [-16 35 -17⟩ | 1.0919 | ||
Ennealimma | Satritribiyo | sy18-3 | 7629394531250/7625597484987 | [1 -27 18⟩ | 0.86183 | Paul Erlich, Gene Ward Smith (2001) |
Astro comma | Tribisa-thiwegu | s6g3110 | [91 -12 -31⟩ | 0.81486 | ||
Gaster | Quadbila-negu | L8g19-3 | [-70 72 -19⟩ | 0.79950 | ||
Kwazy | Quadla-quadquadyo | L4y16-6 | [-53 10 16⟩ | 0.56943 | ||
Whoosh | Saletrigu | sg337 | [37 25 -33⟩ | 0.52246 | ||
Egads | Setriyo | y51-9 | [-36 -52 51⟩ | 0.33936 | ||
Monzisma | Quinsa-yoyo | s5yy4 | [54 -37 2⟩ | 0.29240 | Margo Schulter (2001) | |
Fortune | Tritrila-sepbiyo | L9y14-9 | [-107 47 14⟩ | 0.27703 | ||
Gross | Quinbisa-fosegu | s10g4715 | [144 -22 -47⟩ | 0.24543 | ||
Senior | Quadla-sepquingu | L4g354 | [-17 62 -35⟩ | 0.23007 | ||
665&3684 comma | Quintritrilayo | L45y-31 | [-500 314 1⟩ | 0.18399 | ||
Raider | Tritrisa-thiseyo | s9y371 | [71 -99 37⟩ | 0.062327 | ||
Pirate | Quinla-sepsepyo | L5y49-12 | [-90 -15 49⟩ | 0.046966 | ||
Viking | Nela-siweyo | L19y61-23 | [-251 69 61⟩ | 0.031605 | ||
Kirnberger's atom | Sepbisa-quadtrigu | s14g1212 | [161 -84 -12⟩ | 0.015361 | ||
Selenia | [-433 -137 280⟩ | 0.0047636 | ||||
Titania | [2746 -521 -827⟩ | 0.0031829 | ||||
Quark | Twethebila-sequinyo | [-573 237 85⟩ | 8.8361 × 10-4 | |||
Scamp | [-5836 4293 -417⟩ | 3.3472 × 10-5 | ||||
Rover | [1634 1502 -1729⟩ | 2.7513 × 10-5 | ||||
Rascal | [-7470 2791 1312⟩ | 5.9596 × 10-6 |
7-limit commas
Name(s) | Color Name | Ratio | Monzo | Cents | Denomination | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Decovulture comma | Sasa-birugugu | ssrrg42 | 67108864/66976875 | [26 -7 -4 -2⟩ | 3.4083 | Xenllium (2021) |
Rainy comma | Laquinzo-atriyo | Lz5y32 | 2100875/2097152 | [-21 0 3 5⟩ | 3.0706 | +merlan #flirora (2020) |
Pontiqak comma | Lazozotritriyo | Lzzy9-2 | 95703125/95551488 | [-17 -6 9 2⟩ | 2.7452 | Xenllium (2021) |
Pessoalisma | 2147483648/2144153025 | [31 -6 -2 -6⟩ | 2.6871 | Aura (2023) | ||
Mitonisma | Laquadzo-agu | Lz4g2 | 5250987/5242880 | [-20 7 -1 4⟩ | 2.6749 | Xenllium (2021) |
Horwell | Lazoquinyo | Lzy5-2 | 65625/65536 | [-16 1 5 1⟩ | 2.3495 | |
Forge comma | 1640558367/163840000 | [-19 14 -5 3⟩ | 2.2792 | Aura (2022) | ||
Neptunisma | Laruruleyo | Lrry11-4 | 48828125/48771072 | [-12 -5 11 -2⟩ | 2.0240 | Xenllium (2021) |
Septiennealimma | Tritrizo | z95 | 40353607/40310784 | [-11 -9 0 9⟩ | 1.8382 | Eliora, Flora Canou (2021) |
Meter | Latriru-asepyo | Lr3y7-4 | 703125/702464 | [-11 2 7 -3⟩ | 1.6283 | |
Skeetsma | Lala-rutrigu | LLrg3-2 | 14348907/14336000 | [-14 15 -3 -1⟩ | 1.5580 | Jerdle (2021) |
Wizma | Quinzo-ayoyo | z5yy3 | 420175/419904 | [-6 -8 2 5⟩ | 1.1170 | |
Supermatertisma | Lasepru-atritriyo | Lr7y9-6 | 52734375/52706752 | [-6 3 9 -7⟩ | 0.90708 | Xenllium (2021) |
Trienstonisma | Laquinru-agu | Lr5g-4 | 43046721/43025920 | [-9 16 -1 -5⟩ | 0.83677 | Xenllium (2021) |
Breedsma | Bizozogu | z4gg3 | 2401/2400 | [-5 -1 -2 4⟩ | 0.72120 | |
171-9/7-comma | Quadtribisa-netritrizo | [62 -342 0 171⟩ | 0.61971 | |||
Supermasesquartisma | Laquadbiru-aquinyo | Lr8y5-6 | 184528125/184473632 | [-5 10 5 -8⟩ | 0.51133 | Xenllium (2021) |
571-7-comma | [1603 0 0 -571⟩ | 0.40741 | ||||
Ragisma | Zoquadyo | zy41 | 4375/4374 | [-1 -7 4 1⟩ | 0.39576 | |
Septiruthenia | Nela-lequadzo | L19z448 | [-263 88 0 44⟩ | 0.37996 | Eliora (2022) | |
Akjaysma | Trisa-seprugu | s3r7g71 | [47 -7 -7 -7⟩ | 0.33765 | ||
Landscape comma | Trizogugu | z3g63 | 250047/250000 | [-4 6 -6 3⟩ | 0.32544 | |
Izar comma, bapbo schismina | Saquadtrizo-asepgu | sz12g78 | 13841287201/13839609375 | [0 -11 -7 12⟩ | 0.20987 | |
Nanisma | Quinbisaru | s10r7 | [109 -67 0 -1⟩ | 0.18904 | ||
laleruyo (171&1547&3125) | Laleruyo | Lr11y11-8 | 3955078125/3954653486 | [-1 4 11 -11⟩ | 0.18588 | |
87-fold starling comma | Twenetri-zotrigu | [86 174 -261 87⟩ | 0.14469 | |||
Starscape comma | Latritriru-ayo | Lr9y-6 | 645700815/645657712 | [-4 17 1 -9⟩ | 0.11557 | |
quinla-zoyoyo (12&53&612) | Quinla-zoyoyo | L5zzy-4 | [-55 30 2 1⟩ | 0.10336 | ||
Euzenius comma | Sabiruquinyo | srry10-3 | 78125000/78121827 | [3 -13 10 -2⟩ | 0.070314 | |
171&1547&4973 comma | Satwethezo-atritribigu | sz23g1815 | [1 -15 -18 23⟩ | 0.023986 | ||
trisa-quinbiru-agu (441&1848&3125) | Trisa-quinbiru-agu | s3r10g-3 | [51 -13 -1 -10⟩ | 0.012210 | ||
Termite | Satritribiru-athiseyo | sr18y37-14 | [9 -28 37 -18⟩ | 0.0010723 | ||
Neutrino | [1889 -2145 138 424⟩ | 1.6361 × 10-10 |
11-limit commas
Name(s) | Color Name | Ratio | Monzo | Cents | Denomination | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Swetisma | Lururuyo | 1urry-2 | 540/539 | [2 3 1 -2 -1⟩ | 3.2090 | |
Wizardharry | Triluyo | 1u3y31 | 4000/3993 | [5 -1 3 0 -3⟩ | 3.0323 | |
Symbiotic comma | Salozo | s1oz2 | 19712/19683 | [8 -9 0 1 1⟩ | 2.5488 | Aura (2020) |
Vishdel | Saloquadgu | s1og42 | 5632/5625 | [9 -2 -4 0 1⟩ | 2.1531 | |
Nexus comma, nexisma | Tribilo | 1o6-2 | 1771561/1769472 | [-16 -3 0 0 6⟩ | 2.0427 | Aura (2020) |
Tinge | Lolotrizo | 1ooz32 | 41503/41472 | [-9 -4 0 3 2⟩ | 1.2936 | Gayle Young (2018), Todd Harrop (2020) |
Olympia | Salururu | s1urr1 | 131072/130977 | [17 -5 0 -2 -1⟩ | 1.2552 | Flora Canou (2021) |
11-cycle schisma, 37-11-comma | Quinsa-thiselu | s51u379 | [128 0 0 0 -37⟩ | 1.2361 | ||
Undecimal hemifourths comma | Bilozogugu | 1oozzg42 | 160083/160000 | [-8 3 -4 2 2⟩ | 0.89784 | |
Sesdecal | Laquadlu-asepyo | L1u4y7-2 | 234375/234256 | [-4 1 7 0 -4⟩ | 0.87923 | |
Frameshift comma | Quadla-trilu | L41u3-3 | [-34 28 0 0 -3⟩ | 0.78620 | Aura (2021) | |
Hemigail | Quadlo-atriru | 1o4r3-3 | 43923/43904 | [-7 1 0 -3 4⟩ | 0.74905 | |
Lehmerisma | Loloruyoyo | 1ooryy-2 | 3025/3024 | [-4 -3 2 -1 2⟩ | 0.57240 | |
Quartisma | Saquinlu-azo | s1u5z3 | 117440512/117406179 | [24 -6 0 1 -5⟩ | 0.50619 | Aura (2020) |
Kalisma, Gauss' comma | Bilorugu | 1oorrgg-2 | 9801/9800 | [-3 4 -2 -2 2⟩ | 0.17665 | Margo Schulter (2000) |
Odiheim | Luluquinzo-aquadgu | 1uuz5g44 | 151263/151250 | [-1 2 -4 5 -2⟩ | 0.14879 | |
Parimo | Satribilo-agu | s1o6g1 | 1771561/1771470 | [-1 -11 -1 0 6⟩ | 0.088931 | |
Parisma | Laquadlu-arurugu | L1u4rrg-2 | 14348907/14348180 | [-2 15 -1 -2 -4⟩ | 0.087717 | |
Ultimo | Quadlo-asepru-ayoyo | 1o4r7yy-5 | 3294225/3294172 | [-2 2 2 -7 4⟩ | 0.027854 | |
Parismina | Sasa-quinbilo-azozo | ss1o10zz2 | [1 -26 0 2 10⟩ | 0.0012141 |
13-limit commas
Name(s) | Color Name | Ratio | Monzo | Cents | Denomination | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Wilschisma | Sathoyo | s3oy2 | 532480/531441 | [13 -12 1 0 0 1⟩ | 3.3814 | Flora Canou (2021) |
Bean | Sathuquinlu | s3u1u52 | 2097152/2093663 | [21 0 0 0 -5 -1⟩ | 2.8826 | |
Tunbarsma | Thuquadyo | 3uy4-2 | 625/624 | [-4 -1 4 0 0 -1⟩ | 2.7722 | |
Island comma | Bithogu | 3oogg2 | 676/675 | [2 -3 -2 0 0 2⟩ | 2.5629 | |
Squbema | Lathuru | L3ur-2 | 729/728 | [-3 6 0 -1 0 -1⟩ | 2.3764 | |
Petrma | Trithu-aloyoyo | 3u31oyy-2 | 2200/2197 | [3 0 2 0 1 -3⟩ | 2.3624 | |
Nicola | Thululuzoyoyo | 3u1uuzyy1 | 1575/1573 | [0 2 2 1 -2 -1⟩ | 2.1998 | |
Sinbadma | Tholozotrigu | 3o1ozg32 | 1001/1000 | [-3 0 -3 1 1 1⟩ | 1.7303 | |
Cantonisma | Trithoru-ayo | 3o3r3y-2 | 10985/10976 | [-5 0 1 -3 0 3⟩ | 1.4190 | |
Lummic comma | Tholotriru-agu | 3o1or3g-2 | 1716/1715 | [2 1 -1 -3 1 1⟩ | 1.0092 | |
Ibnsinma | Tholuruyo | 3o1ury1 | 2080/2079 | [5 -3 1 -1 -1 1⟩ | 0.83252 | Margo Schulter (2012) |
Phaotic comma, phaotisma | Sathotriyo | s3uy31 | 256000/255879 | [11 -9 3 0 0 -1⟩ | 0.81847 | Aura (2021) |
Schismina | Sathurugu | s3urg1 | 4096/4095 | [12 -2 -1 -1 0 -1⟩ | 0.42272 | |
Leprechaun comma | Thotholuyoyo | 3oo1uyy1 | 4225/4224 | [-7 -1 2 0 -1 2⟩ | 0.40981 | Margo Schulter (2012) |
Jacobin comma | Thotrilu-agu | 3o1u3g2 | 6656/6655 | [9 0 -1 0 -3 1⟩ | 0.26012 | |
Harmonisma | Thuthutrilo-aru | 3uu1o3r-2 | 10648/10647 | [3 -2 0 -1 3 -2⟩ | 0.16260 | Margo Schulter (2002) |
Pentonisma | Saquinthuzogu | s3u5z5g54 | [24 -5 -5 5 0 -5⟩ | 0.14765 | Xenllium (2022) | |
Chalmersia | Lathotholurugugu | L3oo1urgg1 | 123201/123200 | [-6 6 -2 -1 -1 2⟩ | 0.014052 | Gene Ward Smith (2003) |
17-limit commas
Name(s) | Color Name | Ratio | Monzo | Cents | Denomination | |
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Dakotisma | 595/594 | [-1 -3 1 1 -1 0 1⟩ | 2.9121 | Praveen Venkataramana (2022) | ||
September comma | Sutholoruyo | 17u3o1ory-2 | 715/714 | [-1 -1 1 -1 1 1 -1⟩ | 2.4230 | Scott Dakota (2021) |
Horizma, horizon comma | Sothuzozo | 17o3uzz2 | 833/832 | [-6 0 0 2 0 -1 1⟩ | 2.0796 | Jerdle (2021) |
Ainos comma, ainma | Sutholugu | 17u3o1ug1 | 936/935 | [3 2 -1 0 -1 1 -1⟩ | 1.8506 | Aura (2020) |
Fidesma | 2025/2023 | [0 4 2 -1 0 0 -2⟩ | 1.7107 | Aura (2023) | ||
Twosquare comma | Sulolo | 17u1oo-2 | 1089/1088 | [-6 2 0 0 2 0 -1⟩ | 1.5905 | Kaiveran (2018) |
Quadrantonisma | Sosolurugu | 17oo1urg2 | 1156/1155 | [2 -1 -1 -1 -1 0 2⟩ | 1.4983 | Flora Canou (2023) |
Noellisma | Subizoyo | 17uzzyy1 | 1225/1224 | [-3 -2 2 2 0 0 -1⟩ | 1.4138 | Flora Canou (2022) |
Palingenetic comma, palingenesis | 1701/1700 | [-2 5 -2 1 0 0 -1⟩ | 1.0181 | Aura (2021) | ||
Xenisma | Sululutrizo | 17u1uuz32 | 2058/2057 | [1 1 0 3 -2 0 -1⟩ | 0.84143 | Margo Schulter (2000) |
Cyclops comma | 11016/11011 | [3 4 0 -1 -2 -1 1⟩ | 0.78596 | Eliora (2022) | ||
Sperasma | 2500/2499 | [2 -1 4 -2 0 0 -1⟩ | 0.69263 | Aura (2023) | ||
Sextantonisma | Sosothugugu | 17oo3ugg2 | 2601/2600 | [-3 2 -2 0 0 -1 2⟩ | 0.66573 | Flora Canou (2023) |
Chlorisma | Sutriru | 17ur3-3 | 5832/5831 | [3 6 0 -3 0 0 -1⟩ | 0.29688 | Jerdle (2021) |
(18/17)11(16/15) comma | Lalesu-agu | L17u11g-7 | [14 21 -1 0 0 0 -11⟩ | 0.23180 | ||
Flashma | Sotholuzotrigu | 17o3o1uzg33 | 12376/12375 | [3 -2 -3 1 -1 1 1⟩ | 0.13989 | Kaiveran (2016) |
Sparkisma | Sululuruyoyo | 17u1uuryy-2 | 14400/14399 | [6 2 2 -1 -2 0 -1⟩ | 0.12023 | Kaiveran (2016) |
Scintillisma | Lasuthuluquadzo-agu | L17u3u1uz4g2 | 194481/194480 | [-4 4 -1 4 -1 -1 -1⟩ | 0.0089018 | Margo Schulter (2012) |
19-limit commas
Name(s) | Color Name | Ratio | Monzo | Cents | Denomination | |
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Undevicesimal comma, undevicesimal schisma, Boethius' comma, Hunt 19-minor mediant comma |
Lano | L19o1 | 513/512 | [-9 3 0 0 0 0 0 1⟩ | 3.3780 | Plainsound Music Edition (2020)[1] |
Password, Eratosthenes' comma | Sanogu | s19og2 | 1216/1215 | [6 -5 -1 0 0 0 0 1⟩ | 1.4243 | |
Aureusma | Nunusosoyo | 19uu17ooy1 | 1445/1444 | [-2 0 1 0 0 0 2 -2⟩ | 1.1985 | Flora Canou (2021) |
Pinkanberry | Nuthothogu | 19u3o3og1 | 1521/1520 | [-4 2 -1 0 0 2 0 -1⟩ | 1.1386 | Kaiveran (2021) |
Ramanujanisma | Nothozo | 19o3oz2 | 1729/1728 | [-6 -3 0 1 0 1 0 1⟩ | 1.0016 | Frédéric Gagné (2021) |
Blumeyer comma | Nosuthulu | 19o17u3u1u1 | 2432/2431 | [7 0 0 0 -1 -1 -1 1⟩ | 0.71200 | Douglas Blumeyer (2015) |
BMO schismina | Sabinothu | s19oo3uu2 | 369664/369603 | [10 -7 0 0 0 -2 0 2⟩ | 0.28570 | |
Frouggie comma | Nusuquinthu-aquadlo | 19u17u3u51o4-3 | 119939072/119927639 | [13 0 0 0 4 -5 -1 -1⟩ | 0.16503 | |
Pollar comma | Nunusuquintho-alulu | 19uu17u3o51uu1 | 742586/742577 | [1 0 0 0 -2 5 -1 -2⟩ | 0.020982 | |
Decimillisma, 19-limit decimill | Sanosorurutrigu | s19o17orrg32 | 165376/165375 | [9 -3 -3 -2 0 0 1 1⟩ | 0.010469 |
23-limit commas
Name(s) | Color Name | Ratio | Monzo | Cents | Denomination | |
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Worcester comma | Twethugugu | 23ugg1 | 576/575 | [6 2 -2 0 0 0 0 0 -1⟩ | 3.00823 | Kaiveran (2023) |
Kaifsma | Twethunosutholuzozogu | 23u19o17u3o1uzzg2 | 193648/193545 | [4 -2 -1 2 -1 1 -1 1 -1⟩ | 0.92108 | Kaiveran (2022) |
Higher-limit commas
Name(s) | Color Name | Ratio | Monzo | Cents | Denomination | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Cmloegcmluinisma (/ˈʃmlɛg.ʃmlɪ.nɪs.mə/) | Twenutwethonu | 29u23o19u1 | 552/551 | 2.3.19.23.29 [3 1 -1 1 -1⟩ | 3.13914 | Douglas Blumeyer (2021) |
Owowhatsthisma | Thiwutwethogu | 31u23og2 | 621/620 | 2.3.5.23.31 [-2 3 -1 1 -1⟩ | 2.79006 | HEHEHE I AM A SUPAHSTAR SAGA (2021) |
Minimyna | Thisunulo | 37u19u1o-2 | 704/703 | 2.11.19.37 [6 1 -1 -1⟩ | 2.46088 | Kaiveran (2023) |
Eroğluisma | Bifowutweno | 41uu29oo2 | 1682/1681 | 2.29.41 [1 2 -2⟩ | 1.02958 | Douglas Blumeyer (2021) |
Misericorde | Thisuthulozoyoyo | 37u3u1ozyy-2 | 1925/1924 | 2.5.7.11.13.37 [-2 2 1 1 -1 -1⟩ | 0.89958 | Kaiveran (2023) |
Yunzee comma | Lathiwuzozo | L31uzz2 | 3969/3968 | 2.3.7.31 [-7 4 2 -1⟩ | 0.43624 | Kaiveran (2021) |
Pulsar comma | 7777/7776 | 2.3.7.11.101 [-5 -5 1 1 1⟩ | 0.22262 | Eliora (2022) | ||
Palimilli | 1003001o23o1u1 | 23069023/23068672 | 2.11.23.1003001 [-21 -1 1 1⟩ | 0.026341 | Kaiveran (2021) |
Notes
- ↑ The Helmholtz-Ellis JI Pitch Notation (HEJI) for undevicesimal schisma