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== Theory == | |||
59edo's best [[3/2|fifth]] is stretched about 9.91 cents from the just interval, and yet its [[5/4]] is nearly pure (stretched only 0.127{{c}}), as the denominator of a convergent to log<sub>2</sub>5. It is a good [[porcupine]] tuning, giving in fact the [[optimal patent val]] for [[11-limit]] porcupine. This patent val tempers out [[250/243]] in the [[5-limit]], [[64/63]] and [[16875/16807]] in the [[7-limit]], and [[55/54]], [[100/99]] and [[176/175]] in the [[11-limit]]. | |||
Using the flat fifth instead of the sharp one allows for the {{nowrap|12 & 35}} temperament, which is a kind of bizarre cousin to [[garibaldi]] with a generator of an approximate 15/14, tuned to the size of a whole tone, rather than a fifth. The flat fifth also acts as a generator for [[flattertone]] temperament in the 59bcd val, a variant of meantone with very flat fifths. | |||
{| class="wikitable" | As every other step of [[118edo]], 59edo is an excellent tuning for the 2.9.5.21.11 11-limit [[k*N subgroups|2*59 subgroup]], on which it takes the same tuning and tempers out the same commas. This can be extended to the 19-limit 2*59 subgroup 2.9.5.21.11.39.17.57, for which the [[50edo|50]] & 59 temperament with a subminor third generator provides an interesting temperament. | ||
=== Odd harmonics === | |||
{{Harmonics in equal|59|columns=13}} | |||
=== Subsets and supersets === | |||
59edo is the 17th [[prime edo]], following [[53edo]] and before [[61edo]]. As noted above, 118edo is a superset that yields most of the same tuning properties, but it also adds a near-just third harmonic to enable strong full 11-limit tuning. | |||
== Intervals == | |||
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Steps | |||
! Cents | |||
! Approximate ratios<br>(2.9.5.21.11.39.17-subgroup) | |||
! Ratios of 3, 7, 13<br>(tending sharp) | |||
! Ratios of 3, 7, 13<br>(tending flat) | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | 1 | | 0 | ||
| | | | 0.0 | ||
| [[1/1]] | |||
| | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 1 | ||
| | | | 20.3 | ||
| [[81/80]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 2 | ||
| | | | 40.7 | ||
| [[40/39]], [[45/44]] | |||
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| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 3 | ||
| | | | 61.0 | ||
| [[27/26]], [[28/27]] | |||
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| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 4 | ||
| | | | 81.4 | ||
| [[21/20]], [[22/21]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 5 | ||
| | | | 101.7 | ||
| [[17/16]], [[18/17]], [[35/33]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 6 | ||
| | | | 122.0 | ||
| [[15/14]], [[14/13]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 7 | ||
| | | | 142.4 | ||
| [[13/12]] | |||
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| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 8 | ||
| | | | 162.7 | ||
| [[11/10]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | 10 | | 9 | ||
| | | | 183.1 | ||
| [[10/9]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 10 | ||
| | | | 203.4 | ||
| [[9/8]], [[44/39]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 11 | ||
| | | | 223.7 | ||
| [[25/22]] | |||
| [[8/7]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | 13 | | 12 | ||
| | | | 244.1 | ||
| [[15/13]], [[39/34]] | |||
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| [[8/7]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 13 | ||
| | | | 264.4 | ||
| [[7/6]], [[64/55]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 14 | ||
| | | | 284.7 | ||
| [[20/17]], [[33/28]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 15 | ||
| | | | 305.1 | ||
| [[25/21]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 16 | ||
| | | | 325.4 | ||
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| | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 17 | ||
| | | | 345.8 | ||
| [[11/9]], [[39/32]], [[128/105]] | |||
| [[16/13]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 18 | ||
| | | | 366.1 | ||
| [[21/17]] | |||
| | |||
| [[16/13]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 19 | ||
| | | | 386.4 | ||
| [[5/4]] | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 20 | ||
| | | | 406.8 | ||
| [[81/64]] | |||
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| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 21 | ||
| | | | 427.1 | ||
| [[32/25]], [[50/39]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 22 | ||
| | | | 447.5 | ||
| [[22/17]], [[35/27]], [[128/99]] | |||
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| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 23 | ||
| | | | 467.8 | ||
| [[21/16]], [[64/49]] | |||
| | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 24 | ||
| | | | 488.1 | ||
| [[45/34]], [[85/64]] | |||
| [[4/3]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | 26 | | 25 | ||
| | | | 508.5 | ||
| [[35/26]] | |||
| | |||
| [[4/3]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 26 | ||
| | | | 528.8 | ||
| [[34/25]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 27 | ||
| | | | 549.2 | ||
| [[11/8]], [[48/35]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 28 | ||
| | | | 569.5 | ||
| [[25/18]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 29 | ||
| | | | 589.8 | ||
| [[45/32]], [[128/91]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 30 | ||
| | | | 610.2 | ||
| [[64/45]], [[91/64]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 31 | ||
| | | | 630.5 | ||
| [[36/25]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 32 | ||
| | | | 650.8 | ||
| [[16/11]], [[35/24]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 33 | ||
| | | | 671.2 | ||
| [[25/17]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | 35 | | 34 | ||
| | | | 691.5 | ||
| [[52/35]] | |||
| | |||
| [[3/2]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 35 | ||
| | | | 711.9 | ||
| [[68/45]], [[128/85]] | |||
| [[3/2]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 36 | ||
| | | | 732.2 | ||
| [[32/21]], [[49/32]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 37 | ||
| | | | 752.5 | ||
| [[17/11]], [[54/35]], [[99/64]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | 39 | | 38 | ||
| | | | 772.9 | ||
| [[25/16]], [[39/25]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 39 | ||
| | | | 793.2 | ||
| [[128/81]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 40 | ||
| | | | 813.6 | ||
| [[8/5]] | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 41 | ||
| | | | 833.9 | ||
| [[34/21]] | |||
| | |||
| [[13/8]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 42 | ||
| | | | 854.2 | ||
| [[18/11]], [[64/39]], [[105/64]] | |||
| [[13/8]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 43 | ||
| | | | 874.6 | ||
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| | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 44 | ||
| | | | 894.9 | ||
| [[42/25]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 45 | ||
| | | | 915.3 | ||
| [[17/10]], [[56/33]] | |||
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| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 46 | ||
| | | | 935.6 | ||
| [[12/7]], [[55/32]] | |||
| | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 47 | ||
| | | | 955.9 | ||
| [[26/15]], [[68/39]] | |||
| | |||
| [[7/4]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 48 | ||
| | | | 976.3 | ||
| [[44/25]] | |||
| [[7/4]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | | 49 | ||
| | | | 996.6 | ||
| [[16/9]], [[39/22]] | |||
| | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 50 | ||
| | | | 1016.9 | ||
| [[9/5]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 51 | ||
| | | | 1037.3 | ||
| [[20/11]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 52 | ||
| | | | 1057.6 | ||
| [[24/13]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 53 | ||
| | | | 1078.0 | ||
| [[13/7]], [[28/15]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 54 | ||
| | | | 1098.3 | ||
| [[17/9]], [[32/17]], [[66/35]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 55 | ||
| | | | 1118.6 | ||
| [[21/11]], [[40/21]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | | 56 | ||
| | | | 1139.0 | ||
| [[27/14]], [[52/27]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
| | 58 | | 57 | ||
| | | | 1159.3 | ||
|} | | [[39/20]], [[88/45]] | ||
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|- | |||
| 58 | |||
| 1179.7 | |||
| [[160/81]] | |||
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|- | |||
| 59 | |||
| 1200.0 | |||
| [[2/1]] | |||
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|}{{Todo|inline=1|complete table}} | |||
== Notation == | |||
=== Sagittal notation === | |||
==== Best fifth notation ==== | |||
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as [[66edo#Sagittal notation|66-EDO]]. | |||
===== Evo flavor ===== | |||
<imagemap> | |||
File:59-EDO_Evo_Sagittal.svg | |||
desc none | |||
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]] | |||
rect 300 0 743 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation] | |||
rect 20 80 190 106 [[Fractional_3-limit_notation#Bad-fifths_apotome-fraction_notation | apotome-fraction notation]] | |||
rect 190 80 320 106 [[144/143]] | |||
rect 320 80 430 106 [[81/80]] | |||
rect 430 80 570 106 [[1053/1024]] | |||
default [[File:59-EDO_Evo_Sagittal.svg]] | |||
</imagemap> | |||
===== Revo flavor ===== | |||
<imagemap> | |||
File:59-EDO_Revo_Sagittal.svg | |||
desc none | |||
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]] | |||
rect 300 0 743 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation] | |||
rect 20 80 190 106 [[Fractional_3-limit_notation#Bad-fifths_apotome-fraction_notation | apotome-fraction notation]] | |||
rect 190 80 320 106 [[144/143]] | |||
rect 320 80 430 106 [[81/80]] | |||
rect 430 80 570 106 [[1053/1024]] | |||
default [[File:59-EDO_Revo_Sagittal.svg]] | |||
</imagemap> | |||
In the diagrams above, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's [[Sagittal notation#Primary comma|primary comma]] (the comma it ''exactly'' represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it ''approximately'' represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this EDO. | |||
==== Second-best fifth notation ==== | |||
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as EDOs [[45edo#Sagittal notation|45]] and [[52edo#Sagittal notation|52]]. | |||
===== Evo flavor ===== | |||
<imagemap> | |||
File:59b_Evo_Sagittal.svg | |||
desc none | |||
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]] | |||
rect 300 0 687 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation] | |||
rect 20 80 130 106 [[36/35]] | |||
default [[File:59b_Evo_Sagittal.svg]] | |||
</imagemap> | |||
===== Revo flavor ===== | |||
<imagemap> | |||
File:59b_Revo_Sagittal.svg | |||
desc none | |||
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]] | |||
rect 300 0 695 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation] | |||
rect 20 80 130 106 [[36/35]] | |||
default [[File:59b_Revo_Sagittal.svg]] | |||
</imagemap> | |||
===== Evo-SZ flavor ===== | |||
<imagemap> | |||
File:59b_Evo-SZ_Sagittal.svg | |||
desc none | |||
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]] | |||
rect 300 0 655 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation] | |||
rect 20 80 130 106 [[36/35]] | |||
default [[File:59b_Evo-SZ_Sagittal.svg]] | |||
</imagemap> | |||
Because it contains no Sagittal symbols, this Evo-SZ Sagittal notation is also a Stein–Zimmerman notation. | |||
== Octave stretch or compression == | |||
59edo’s approximations of 3/1, 7/1 and 11/1 are improved by [[93edt]], a [[Octave stretch|stretched-octave]] version of 59edo. The trade-off is a slightly worse 2/1 and 5/1. | |||
[[ed12|211ed12]] is also a solid stretched-octave option, which improves 59edo's 3/1, doing a little, but not much, damage to most other primes. | |||
If one prefers ''[[Octave shrinking|compressed octaves]]'', then [[ed6|153ed6]] is a viable option. It improves upon 59edo’s 3/1, 7/1 and 13/1 at the cost of a slightly worse 2/1 and 5/1, but substantially worse 11/1. | |||
== Scales == | |||
; [[Porcupine]] scales | |||
* Porcupine[7]: 8 8 8 11 8 8 8 | |||
* Porcupine[15]: 3 5 3 5 3 5 3 5 3 5 3 5 3 5 3 | |||
* Porcupine[22]: 3 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 | |||
* [[User:BudjarnLambeth/Antechinus|Antechinus]] (''nonoctave period'') | |||
== Instruments == | |||
; Lumatone | |||
See [[Lumatone mapping for 59edo]]. | |||
== Music == | |||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UsnINWSvzo ''Microtonal improvisation in 59edo''] (2025) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/unVwXrAWnzI ''icosa - Oliver Buckland (microtonal cover in 59edo)''] (2025) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XYr4j6Abwlw ''Le Ciel - Malice Mizer (microtonal cover in 59edo)''] (2026) | |||
; [[Francium]] | |||
* "too powerful if i had social skills" from ''Melancholie'' (2023) – [https://open.spotify.com/track/1J8zDrAstQNKgLnXPjKwdm Spotify] | [https://francium223.bandcamp.com/track/too-powerful-if-i-had-social-skills Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyzN0P6icf0 YouTube] | |||
* "Stay Away From The Fog" from ''Void'' (2025) – [https://open.spotify.com/track/6swFGV70cPYwruPrnu3iHX Spotify] | [https://francium223.bandcamp.com/track/stay-away-from-the-fog Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVsjM-LRjNo YouTube] | |||
; [[Budjarn Lambeth]] | |||
* [https://youtu.be/YDbqf3g88BE ''The Odd Effects of Breathing the Fairy Dust''] (2026) | |||
; [[Ray Perlner]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ4B47S1TUI ''Chinchillian Fugue''] – first mode of the Porcupine[7] scale in 59edo | |||
[[Category:Porcupine]] | [[Category:Porcupine]] | ||
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