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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| JI glyph = [[File:5_4_glyph.png|x48px]]
| Name = just major third, classic(al) major third, ptolemaic major third
| Ratio = 5/4
| Color name = y3, yo 3rd
| Monzo = -2 0 1
| Cents = 386.31371
| Name = just major third
| Sound = jid_5_4_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
| Sound = jid_5_4_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
| Color name = y3, yo 3rd
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In [[Just Intonation]], '''5/4''' is the frequency ratio between the 5th and 4th harmonics. Measuring about 386.3[[cent|¢]], it is about 13.away from [[12edo]]'s major third of 400¢. It has a distinctive "sweet" sound, and has been described as more "laid back" than its 12edo counterpart. Providing a novel consonance after 3, it is the basis for [[5-limit]] harmony. It is distinguished from the [[Pythagorean]] major third of [[81/64]] by the syntonic comma of [[81/80]], which measures about 21.. 81/64 and 5/4 are both just intonation "major thirds," 81/64 having a more active and discordant quality, 5/4 sounding more "restful".
In [[5-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''5/4''' is the [[frequency ratio]] between the 5th and 4th [[harmonic]]s. It has been called the '''just major third''', '''classic(al) major third''', or '''ptolemaic major third'''<ref>For reference, see [[5-limit]].</ref> to distinguish it from other intervals in that neighborhood. Measuring about 386.[[cent|¢]], it is about 13.7{{c}} away from [[12edo]]'s major third of 400{{c}}. It has a distinctive "sweet" sound, and has been described as more "laid back" than its 12edo counterpart. Providing a novel consonance after 3, it is the basis for [[5-limit]] harmony. It is distinguished from the [[Pythagorean]] major third of [[81/64]] by the syntonic comma of [[81/80]], which measures about 21.5{{c}}, and from the Pythagorean diminished fourth of [[8192/6561]] by the [[schisma]], which measures about 1.95{{c}}. 81/64 and 5/4 are both just intonation "major thirds", 81/64 having a more active and discordant quality, 5/4 sounding more "restful".  
 
In the context of the harmonic series, 5/4 can be heard between the 4th and 5th member of the series, demonstrated here melodically in singing into a resonant [http://udderbot.wikispaces.com/home udderbot] (from the fundamental up to 5 and then noodling between 5 and 4).
 
[[File:5-4.mp3]] <br/> [[:File:5-4.mp3|5-4.mp3]]


5/4 converted to cents (¢): 1200 * log (5/4) / log (2) = 386.314...
In the context of the harmonic series, 5/4 can be heard between the 4th and 5th member of the series, demonstrated in [[:File: 5-4.mp3]] melodically in singing into a resonant [[udderbot]] (from the fundamental up to 5 and then noodling between 5 and 4).


5/4 the interval, like all ''intervals'', refers to a ''relation'' between two pitches. It has been called the ''just major third'' to distinguish it from the other intervals in that neighborhood.
== Approximations by edos ==
Following [[edo]]s (up to 200) contain good approximations<ref>error magnitude below 7, both, absolute (in ¢) and relative (in r¢)</ref> of the interval 5/4.
{{Interval edo approximation|interval = 5/4| max_edo=200}}


:'' See also [[Gallery of Just Intervals]]''
== See also ==
* [[8/5]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[6/5]] – its [[fifth complement]]
* [[16/15]] – its [[fourth complement]]
* [[5/2]] – the interval up one [[octave]] which sounds even more [[consonant]]
* [[Ed5/4]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]


[[Category:5-limit]]
== Notes ==
[[Category:Interval]]
<references/>
[[Category:just_interval]]
[[Category:major_third]]
[[Category:ratio]]
[[Category:superparticular]]


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