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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
45edo effectively has two approximate [[5/4 | 45edo effectively has two approximate [[5/4]] major thirds, each almost equally far from just, but the flat one is slightly closer. Combined with a [[3/2|perfect fifth]] 8.6 cents flat of just, it can be used as a [[meantone]] tuning, forming a good approximation to [[2/5-comma meantone]] (in fact falling into the [[flattone]] range). It is a flat-tending system in the [[7-limit]], with harmonics [[3/1|3]], [[5/1|5]], and [[7/1|7]] all flat. However, harmonics [[11/1|11]] and [[13/1|13]] are sharp, but this can be fixed with the 45ef val. | ||
=== Odd harmonics === | === Odd harmonics === | ||
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=== Subsets and supersets === | === Subsets and supersets === | ||
Since 45 factors into primes as {{nowrap| 3<sup>2</sup> × 5 }}, 45edo has subset edos {{EDOs| 3, 5, 9, and 15 }}. [[135edo]], which triples it, corrects its primes 3, 7, and 11 to near-just qualities, and 270edo offers even more. | Since 45 factors into primes as {{nowrap| 3<sup>2</sup> × 5 }}, 45edo has subset edos {{EDOs| 3, 5, 9, and 15 }}. [[135edo]], which triples it, corrects its primes 3, 7, and 11 to near-just qualities, and 270edo offers even more. | ||
=== Comparison with [[27edo]] === | |||
45edo can be thought of as a mirror twin of [[27edo]] in the [[7-limit]]. In 27edo, harmonics 3, 5, and 7 are all noticeably sharp; in 45edo, they are all flat, with almost the same absolute errors pointing in the opposite direction. | |||
Both tunings inherit [[9edo]]’s remarkably accurate approximation of [[7/6]]: 266.667 cents, only about 0.204 cents flat. Consequently, harmonics 3 and 7 have almost identical tuning errors within each system: nearly the same sharpness in 27edo, and nearly the same flatness in 45edo. Their shared displacement preserves an almost pure relationship between them. | |||
An especially interesting detail is that, in both tunings, the error of harmonic 5 is almost exactly 50% greater in magnitude than the error of harmonic 3. When harmonic 9 is constructed consistently as 3 × 3, its error is twice that of 3. This places the error of 5 almost exactly halfway between those of 3 and 9. In 27edo, these errors are approximately +9.16, +13.69, and +18.31 cents; in 45edo, they are −8.62, −12.98, and −17.24 cents. In both cases, the midpoint relationship is accurate to within 0.05 cents. | |||
Musically, this offers an explanation for why the 5 can blend so well into the 1:3:5:7:9 chord in both tunings: its deviation fits naturally into the pattern established by 3 and 9, while 7 closely follows 3. The chord takes on a strongly stretched character in 27edo and a strongly compressed character in 45edo. | |||
== Intervals == | == Intervals == | ||
{| class="wikitable | {| class="wikitable center-1 right-2 center-5 center-6" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! # | |||
! Cents | ! Cents | ||
! | ! Approximate ratios* | ||
! | ! colspan="4" | [[Ups and downs notation]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
| 0. | | 0.0 | ||
| [[1/1]] | | [[1/1]] | ||
| Perfect Unison | | Perfect Unison | ||
| P1 | | P1 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 26. | | 26.7 | ||
| [[ | | [[49/48]], [[50/49]] | ||
| Up unison | | Up unison | ||
| ^1 | | ^1 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 2 | | 2 | ||
| 53. | | 53.3 | ||
| [[ | | [[36/35]], ''[[25/24]]'', ''[[64/63]]'' | ||
| Augmented Unison | | Augmented Unison | ||
| A1 | | A1 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 3 | | 3 | ||
| 80. | | 80.0 | ||
| [[ | | [[21/20]] | ||
| Diminished 2nd | | Diminished 2nd | ||
| d2 | | d2 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 4 | | 4 | ||
| 106. | | 106.7 | ||
| [[ | | [[15/14]] | ||
| Downminor 2nd | | Downminor 2nd | ||
|vm2 | | vm2 | ||
| vEb | | vEb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 5 | | 5 | ||
| 133. | | 133.3 | ||
| [[27/25]] | | [[13/12]], [[14/13]], [[27/25]], ''[[16/15]]'' | ||
| Minor 2nd | | Minor 2nd | ||
| m2 | | m2 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 6 | | 6 | ||
| 160. | | 160.0 | ||
| [[ | | [[54/49]] | ||
| Mid 2nd | | Mid 2nd | ||
| ~2 | | ~2 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 7 | | 7 | ||
| 186. | | 186.7 | ||
| [[10/9]] | | [[10/9]], ''[[9/8]]'' | ||
| Major 2nd | | Major 2nd | ||
| M2 | | M2 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 8 | | 8 | ||
| 213. | | 213.3 | ||
| | | | ||
| Upmajor 2nd | | Upmajor 2nd | ||
| ^M2 | | ^M2 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 9 | | 9 | ||
| 240. | | 240.0 | ||
| [[8/7]] | | [[8/7]], [[15/13]] | ||
| Augmented 2nd | | Augmented 2nd | ||
| A2 | | A2 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 266. | | 266.7 | ||
| [[7/6]] | | [[7/6]] | ||
| Diminished 3rd | | Diminished 3rd | ||
| d3 | | d3 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 11 | | 11 | ||
| 293. | | 293.3 | ||
| [[ | | [[25/21]] | ||
| Downminor 3rd | | Downminor 3rd | ||
| vm3 | | vm3 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 12 | | 12 | ||
| 320. | | 320.0 | ||
| [[6/5]] | | [[6/5]] | ||
| Minor 3rd | | Minor 3rd | ||
| m3 | | m3 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 13 | | 13 | ||
| 346. | | 346.7 | ||
| [[ | | [[49/40]], [[60/49]] | ||
| Mid 3rd | | Mid 3rd | ||
| ~3 | | ~3 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 14 | | 14 | ||
| 373. | | 373.3 | ||
| [[5/4]] | | [[5/4]], [[26/21]], ''[[16/13]]'' | ||
| Major 3rd | | Major 3rd | ||
| M3 | | M3 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 15 | | 15 | ||
| 400. | | 400.0 | ||
| [[63/50]] | | [[63/50]] | ||
| Upmajor 3rd | | Upmajor 3rd | ||
| ^M3 | | ^M3 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 16 | | 16 | ||
| 426. | | 426.7 | ||
| [[9/7]] | | [[9/7]] | ||
| Augmented 3rd | | Augmented 3rd | ||
| A3 | | A3 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 17 | | 17 | ||
| 453. | | 453.3 | ||
| [[13/10]] | | [[13/10]], ''[[21/16]]'' | ||
| Diminished 4th | | Diminished 4th | ||
| d4 | | d4 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 18 | | 18 | ||
| 480. | | 480.0 | ||
| [[ | | ''[[64/49]]'' | ||
| Down 4th | | Down 4th | ||
| v4 | | v4 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 19 | | 19 | ||
| 506. | | 506.7 | ||
| [[4/3]] | | [[4/3]] | ||
| Perfect 4th | | Perfect 4th | ||
| P4 | | P4 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 20 | | 20 | ||
| 533. | | 533.3 | ||
| [[49/36]] | | [[49/36]] | ||
| Up 4th or Mid 4th | | Up 4th or Mid 4th | ||
| ^4, ~4 | | ^4, ~4 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 21 | | 21 | ||
| 560. | | 560.0 | ||
| [[18/13]] | | [[18/13]] | ||
| Augmented 4th | | Augmented 4th | ||
| A4 | | A4 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 22 | | 22 | ||
| 586. | | 586.7 | ||
| [[7/5]] | | [[7/5]] | ||
| Upaugmented 4th | | Upaugmented 4th | ||
| ^A4 | | ^A4 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 23 | | 23 | ||
| 613. | | 613.3 | ||
| [[10/7]] | | [[10/7]] | ||
| Downdiminshed 5th | | Downdiminshed 5th | ||
| vd5 | | vd5 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 24 | | 24 | ||
| 640. | | 640.0 | ||
| [[13/9]] | | [[13/9]] | ||
| Diminished 5th | | Diminished 5th | ||
| d5 | | d5 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 25 | | 25 | ||
| 666. | | 666.7 | ||
| [[72/49]] | | [[72/49]] | ||
| Down 5th or Mid 5th | | Down 5th or Mid 5th | ||
| v5, ~5 | | v5, ~5 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 26 | | 26 | ||
| 693. | | 693.3 | ||
| [[3/2]] | | [[3/2]] | ||
| Perfect 5th | | Perfect 5th | ||
| P5 | | P5 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 27 | | 27 | ||
| 720. | | 720.0 | ||
| [[32 | | ''[[49/32]]'' | ||
| Up 5th | | Up 5th | ||
| ^5 | | ^5 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 28 | | 28 | ||
| 746. | | 746.7 | ||
| [[20/13]] | | [[20/13]], ''[[32/21]]'' | ||
| Augmented 5th | | Augmented 5th | ||
| A5 | | A5 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 29 | | 29 | ||
| 773. | | 773.3 | ||
| [[14/9]] | | [[14/9]] | ||
| Diminished 6th | | Diminished 6th | ||
| d6 | | d6 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 30 | | 30 | ||
| 800. | | 800.0 | ||
| [[100/63]] | | [[100/63]] | ||
| Downminor 6th | | Downminor 6th | ||
| vm6 | | vm6 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 31 | | 31 | ||
| 826. | | 826.7 | ||
| [[8/5]] | | [[8/5]], [[21/13]], ''[[13/8]]'' | ||
| Minor 6th | | Minor 6th | ||
| m6 | | m6 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 32 | | 32 | ||
| 853. | | 853.3 | ||
| [[ | | [[49/30]], [[80/49]] | ||
| Mid 6th | | Mid 6th | ||
| ~6 | | ~6 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 33 | | 33 | ||
| 880. | | 880.0 | ||
| [[5/3]] | | [[5/3]] | ||
| Major 6th | | Major 6th | ||
| M6 | | M6 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 34 | | 34 | ||
| 906. | | 906.7 | ||
| [[ | | [[42/25]] | ||
| Upmajor 6th | | Upmajor 6th | ||
| ^M6 | | ^M6 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 35 | | 35 | ||
| 933. | | 933.3 | ||
| [[12/7]] | | [[12/7]] | ||
| Augmented 6th | | Augmented 6th | ||
| A6 | | A6 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 36 | | 36 | ||
| 960. | | 960.0 | ||
| [[7/4]] | | [[7/4]], [[26/15]] | ||
| Diminished 7th | | Diminished 7th | ||
| d7 | | d7 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 37 | | 37 | ||
| 986. | | 986.7 | ||
| | | | ||
| Downminor 7th | | Downminor 7th | ||
| vm7 | | vm7 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 38 | | 38 | ||
| 1013. | | 1013.3 | ||
| [[9/5]] | | [[9/5]], ''[[16/9]]'' | ||
| Minor 7th | | Minor 7th | ||
| m7 | | m7 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 39 | | 39 | ||
| 1040. | | 1040.0 | ||
| [[ | | [[49/27]] | ||
| Mid 7th | | Mid 7th | ||
| ~7 | | ~7 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 40 | | 40 | ||
| 1066. | | 1066.7 | ||
| [[50/27]] | | [[13/7]], [[24/13]], [[50/27]], ''[[15/8]]'' | ||
| Major 7th | | Major 7th | ||
| M7 | | M7 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 41 | | 41 | ||
| 1093. | | 1093.3 | ||
| [[ | | [[28/15]] | ||
| Upmajor 7th | | Upmajor 7th | ||
| ^M7 | | ^M7 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 42 | | 42 | ||
| 1120. | | 1120.0 | ||
| [[21 | | [[40/21]] | ||
| Augmented 7th | | Augmented 7th | ||
| A7 | | A7 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 43 | | 43 | ||
| 1146. | | 1146.7 | ||
| [[ | | [[35/18]], ''[[48/25]]'', ''[[63/32]]'' | ||
| Diminished 8ve | | Diminished 8ve | ||
| d8 | | d8 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 44 | | 44 | ||
| 1173. | | 1173.3 | ||
| [[ | | [[49/25]], [[96/49]] | ||
| Down 8ve | | Down 8ve | ||
| v8 | | v8 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 45 | | 45 | ||
| 1200. | | 1200.0 | ||
| [[2/1]] | | [[2/1]] | ||
| Perfect Octave | | Perfect Octave | ||
| P8 | | P8 | ||
| D | | D | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki/>* As a 2.3.5.7.13-subgroup temperament, using the 45f val | |||
== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
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In the following diagrams, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's [[Sagittal notation#Primary comma|primary comma]] (the comma it ''exactly'' represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it ''approximately'' represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this EDO. | In the following diagrams, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's [[Sagittal notation#Primary comma|primary comma]] (the comma it ''exactly'' represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it ''approximately'' represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this EDO. | ||
== Approximation to JI== | |||
=== Interval mappings === | |||
{{Q-odd-limit intervals|45}}{{Q-odd-limit intervals|44.9|apx=val|header=none|tag=none|title=15-odd-limit intervals by 45ef val mapping}} | |||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
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| [[Pentadecal]] | | [[Pentadecal]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki/>* [[Normal forms|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct | <nowiki/>* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct | ||
== Octave stretch and compression == | == Octave stretch and compression == | ||
45edo's approximations of 3/1, 5/1, 7/1, 11/1 and 13/1 and 17/1 are all improved by a [[Octave stretch|stretched-octave]] version of 45edo, such as [[ed12|161ed12]] or [[ed6|116ed6]]. The trade-off is a slightly worse 2/1. | 45edo's approximations of 3/1, 5/1, 7/1, 11/1 and 13/1 and 17/1 are all improved by a [[Octave stretch|stretched-octave]] version of 45edo, such as [[ed12|161ed12]] or [[ed6|116ed6]]. The trade-off is a slightly worse 2/1. [[207zpi]] also improves on all of those harmonics except for 17/1. | ||
The tuning [[equal tuning|183ed17]] may also be used, it improves 3/1, 5/1, 7/1, 11/1, 13/1 ''and'' 17/1 (with different mappings for many) but at the cost of a noticeably worse 2/1 than the others. | The tuning [[equal tuning|183ed17]] may also be used, it improves 3/1, 5/1, 7/1, 11/1, 13/1 ''and'' 17/1 (with different mappings for many) but at the cost of a noticeably worse 2/1 than the others. | ||
[[71edt]] is notable as an octave-stretched version of 45edo for having an extremely accurate 3/1, 5/1 and 11/1. | |||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
* [[Cloudtone]][10] - recommended by [[Maeve Gutierrez]]: 8 1 8 1 8 1 8 1 8 1 | * [[Cloudtone]][10] - recommended by [[Maeve Gutierrez]]: 8 1 8 1 8 1 8 1 8 1 | ||
* [[JUMBLE]]'s "moment of chaos scale": 3 9 6 1 4 7 2 5 8 (used in several works including [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqEOi4cd1Og ''Archipelago Arpeggio''] and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iwJFVIWEII ''FERAL (45edo microtonal ambient track)'']) | |||
* 13-tone 5&9edo scale: 5 4 1 5 3 2 5 2 3 5 1 4 5 | * 13-tone 5&9edo scale: 5 4 1 5 3 2 5 2 3 5 1 4 5 | ||
* 12-tone 5&9edo scale{{idio}}: 5 4 1 5 3 2 5 2 3 5 5 5 | * 12-tone 5&9edo scale{{idio}}: 5 4 1 5 3 2 5 2 3 5 5 5 | ||
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== Music == | == Music == | ||
=== Modern renderings === | |||
; {{W|Brakence}} (Randall Todd Findell) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sXIMdX5-9UA ''Crystallized''] (2026) — microtonal cover in 45edo by [[Bryan Deister]] (2026) | |||
=== 21st century === | |||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | ; [[Bryan Deister]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/33tKBiWZvXM ''(short clip) Fantasy in 45edo''] (2025) | * [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/33tKBiWZvXM ''(short clip) Fantasy in 45edo''] (2025) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xblr-4aGBtM ''<nowiki>Twin Arrows [45edo]</nowiki>''] (2026) | |||
; [[JUMBLE]] | ; [[JUMBLE]] | ||
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24gnhAbHtiw ''Qúchze úzeq Qávka''] (2025) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24gnhAbHtiw ''Qúchze úzeq Qávka''] (2025) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2p7HOI3TUE ''Sodium Light (45edo Microtonal Chillwave)''] (2026) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2p7HOI3TUE ''Sodium Light (45edo Microtonal Chillwave)''] (2026) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex9WfmWVibY ''Yēú Zee Kiidhai (45edo microtonal ambient)''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iwJFVIWEII ''FERAL (45edo microtonal ambient track)''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXZ3RkTDE-I ''Chmelui-Múzeq - Haoýoze (45edo Microtonal Ambient)''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK_Obi5B9bQ ''Chmelui-Múzeq - Luásoidq (45edo microtonal ambient)''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJjGdwolEOY ''Chmelui-Múzeq - Qidloloba (45edo microtonal dark ambient)''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItyazeyLfW8 ''JOYRIDE! (Funky 45edo Driving Music)''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ejEWLb-KMY ''may you live in boring times''] (2026) | |||
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[[Category:Quartismic]] | [[Category:Quartismic]] | ||
[[Category:Listen]] | [[Category:Listen]] | ||
{{todo|add rank 2 temperaments table|add scales list}} | |||
Latest revision as of 11:41, 7 November 2026
| ← 44edo | 45edo | 46edo → |
45 equal divisions of the octave (abbreviated 45edo or 45ed2), also called 45-tone equal temperament (45tet) or 45 equal temperament (45et) when viewed under a regular temperament perspective, is the tuning system that divides the octave into 45 equal parts of about 26.7 ¢ each. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 21/45, or the 45th root of 2.
Theory
45edo effectively has two approximate 5/4 major thirds, each almost equally far from just, but the flat one is slightly closer. Combined with a perfect fifth 8.6 cents flat of just, it can be used as a meantone tuning, forming a good approximation to 2/5-comma meantone (in fact falling into the flattone range). It is a flat-tending system in the 7-limit, with harmonics 3, 5, and 7 all flat. However, harmonics 11 and 13 are sharp, but this can be fixed with the 45ef val.
Odd harmonics
| Harmonic | 3 | 5 | 7 | 9 | 11 | 13 | 15 | 17 | 19 | 21 | 23 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Error | Absolute (¢) | -8.6 | -13.0 | -8.8 | +9.4 | +8.7 | +12.8 | +5.1 | +1.7 | -4.2 | +9.2 | +11.7 |
| Relative (%) | -32.3 | -48.7 | -33.1 | +35.3 | +32.6 | +48.0 | +19.0 | +6.4 | -15.7 | +34.6 | +44.0 | |
| Steps (reduced) |
71 (26) |
104 (14) |
126 (36) |
143 (8) |
156 (21) |
167 (32) |
176 (41) |
184 (4) |
191 (11) |
198 (18) |
204 (24) | |
As a tuning of other temperaments
It tempers out 81/80, 525/512, 875/864, and 3125/3087 in the 7-limit, and 45/44 in the 11-limit. It provides the optimal patent val for 7- and 11-limit flattone temperament, and the 45f val is an excellent tuning for 13-limit flattone. It also provides the optimal patent val for the 7-limit rank-3 avicennmic temperament, tempering out 525/512, the 11-limit calliope temperament, tempering out 45/44 and 81/80, and the rank-4 temperament tempering out 45/44. It is also the unique equal temperament tuning whose patent val tempers out both the syntonic comma and the ennealimma.
45edo tempers out the quartisma and provides an excellent tuning for the 2.7/3.33-subgroup direct quartismic temperament, in which it approximates the 33/32 quartertone with 2 steps and 7/6 with 10 steps. A bit more broadly, it maps the 2.27.25.63.33.65.17 subgroup to great precision; this is the part of the 17-limit shared with 270edo.
Otherwise, it can be treated as a 2.5/3.7/3-subgroup system (borrowing 5/3 from 15edo and 7/3 from 9edo) and is a good tuning for gariberttet, defined by tempering out 3125/3087 in this subgroup, approximating 2/5-comma gariberttet.
Subsets and supersets
Since 45 factors into primes as 32 × 5, 45edo has subset edos 3, 5, 9, and 15. 135edo, which triples it, corrects its primes 3, 7, and 11 to near-just qualities, and 270edo offers even more.
Comparison with 27edo
45edo can be thought of as a mirror twin of 27edo in the 7-limit. In 27edo, harmonics 3, 5, and 7 are all noticeably sharp; in 45edo, they are all flat, with almost the same absolute errors pointing in the opposite direction.
Both tunings inherit 9edo’s remarkably accurate approximation of 7/6: 266.667 cents, only about 0.204 cents flat. Consequently, harmonics 3 and 7 have almost identical tuning errors within each system: nearly the same sharpness in 27edo, and nearly the same flatness in 45edo. Their shared displacement preserves an almost pure relationship between them.
An especially interesting detail is that, in both tunings, the error of harmonic 5 is almost exactly 50% greater in magnitude than the error of harmonic 3. When harmonic 9 is constructed consistently as 3 × 3, its error is twice that of 3. This places the error of 5 almost exactly halfway between those of 3 and 9. In 27edo, these errors are approximately +9.16, +13.69, and +18.31 cents; in 45edo, they are −8.62, −12.98, and −17.24 cents. In both cases, the midpoint relationship is accurate to within 0.05 cents.
Musically, this offers an explanation for why the 5 can blend so well into the 1:3:5:7:9 chord in both tunings: its deviation fits naturally into the pattern established by 3 and 9, while 7 closely follows 3. The chord takes on a strongly stretched character in 27edo and a strongly compressed character in 45edo.
Intervals
| # | Cents | Approximate ratios* | Ups and downs notation | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0.0 | 1/1 | Perfect Unison | P1 | D | |
| 1 | 26.7 | 49/48, 50/49 | Up unison | ^1 | ^D | |
| 2 | 53.3 | 36/35, 25/24, 64/63 | Augmented Unison | A1 | D# | |
| 3 | 80.0 | 21/20 | Diminished 2nd | d2 | Ebb | |
| 4 | 106.7 | 15/14 | Downminor 2nd | vm2 | vEb | |
| 5 | 133.3 | 13/12, 14/13, 27/25, 16/15 | Minor 2nd | m2 | Eb | |
| 6 | 160.0 | 54/49 | Mid 2nd | ~2 | vE | |
| 7 | 186.7 | 10/9, 9/8 | Major 2nd | M2 | E | |
| 8 | 213.3 | Upmajor 2nd | ^M2 | ^E | ||
| 9 | 240.0 | 8/7, 15/13 | Augmented 2nd | A2 | E# | |
| 10 | 266.7 | 7/6 | Diminished 3rd | d3 | Fb | |
| 11 | 293.3 | 25/21 | Downminor 3rd | vm3 | vF | |
| 12 | 320.0 | 6/5 | Minor 3rd | m3 | F | |
| 13 | 346.7 | 49/40, 60/49 | Mid 3rd | ~3 | ^F | |
| 14 | 373.3 | 5/4, 26/21, 16/13 | Major 3rd | M3 | F# | |
| 15 | 400.0 | 63/50 | Upmajor 3rd | ^M3 | ^F# | |
| 16 | 426.7 | 9/7 | Augmented 3rd | A3 | Fx | |
| 17 | 453.3 | 13/10, 21/16 | Diminished 4th | d4 | Gb | |
| 18 | 480.0 | 64/49 | Down 4th | v4 | vG | |
| 19 | 506.7 | 4/3 | Perfect 4th | P4 | G | |
| 20 | 533.3 | 49/36 | Up 4th or Mid 4th | ^4, ~4 | ^G | |
| 21 | 560.0 | 18/13 | Augmented 4th | A4 | G# | |
| 22 | 586.7 | 7/5 | Upaugmented 4th | ^A4 | ^G# | |
| 23 | 613.3 | 10/7 | Downdiminshed 5th | vd5 | vAb | |
| 24 | 640.0 | 13/9 | Diminished 5th | d5 | Ab | |
| 25 | 666.7 | 72/49 | Down 5th or Mid 5th | v5, ~5 | vA | |
| 26 | 693.3 | 3/2 | Perfect 5th | P5 | A | |
| 27 | 720.0 | 49/32 | Up 5th | ^5 | ^A | |
| 28 | 746.7 | 20/13, 32/21 | Augmented 5th | A5 | A# | |
| 29 | 773.3 | 14/9 | Diminished 6th | d6 | Bbb | |
| 30 | 800.0 | 100/63 | Downminor 6th | vm6 | vBb | |
| 31 | 826.7 | 8/5, 21/13, 13/8 | Minor 6th | m6 | Bb | |
| 32 | 853.3 | 49/30, 80/49 | Mid 6th | ~6 | vB | |
| 33 | 880.0 | 5/3 | Major 6th | M6 | B | |
| 34 | 906.7 | 42/25 | Upmajor 6th | ^M6 | ^B | |
| 35 | 933.3 | 12/7 | Augmented 6th | A6 | B# | |
| 36 | 960.0 | 7/4, 26/15 | Diminished 7th | d7 | Cb | |
| 37 | 986.7 | Downminor 7th | vm7 | vC | ||
| 38 | 1013.3 | 9/5, 16/9 | Minor 7th | m7 | C | |
| 39 | 1040.0 | 49/27 | Mid 7th | ~7 | ^C | |
| 40 | 1066.7 | 13/7, 24/13, 50/27, 15/8 | Major 7th | M7 | C# | |
| 41 | 1093.3 | 28/15 | Upmajor 7th | ^M7 | ^C# | |
| 42 | 1120.0 | 40/21 | Augmented 7th | A7 | Cx | |
| 43 | 1146.7 | 35/18, 48/25, 63/32 | Diminished 8ve | d8 | Db | |
| 44 | 1173.3 | 49/25, 96/49 | Down 8ve | v8 | vD | |
| 45 | 1200.0 | 2/1 | Perfect Octave | P8 | D | |
* As a 2.3.5.7.13-subgroup temperament, using the 45f val
Notation
Ups and downs notation
Spoken as up, sharp, upsharp, etc. Note that up can be respelled as downsharp.
Quarter-tone notation
Since a sharp raises by two steps, quarter-tone accidentals can also be used.
| Step offset | −4 | −3 | −2 | −1 | 0 | +1 | +2 | +3 | +4 |
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Sagittal notation
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as EDOs 52 and 59b.
Evo flavor

Revo flavor

Evo-SZ flavor

Because it contains no Sagittal symbols, this Evo-SZ Sagittal notation is also a Stein-Zimmerman notation.
In the following diagrams, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's primary comma (the comma it exactly represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it approximately represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this EDO.
Approximation to JI
Interval mappings
The following tables show how 15-odd-limit intervals are represented in 45edo. Prime harmonics are in bold; inconsistent intervals are in italics.
| Interval and complement | Error (abs, ¢) | Error (rel, %) |
|---|---|---|
| 1/1, 2/1 | 0.000 | 0.0 |
| 7/6, 12/7 | 0.204 | 0.8 |
| 11/9, 18/11 | 0.741 | 2.8 |
| 13/10, 20/13 | 0.881 | 3.3 |
| 13/9, 18/13 | 3.382 | 12.7 |
| 15/11, 22/15 | 3.617 | 13.6 |
| 13/11, 22/13 | 4.124 | 15.5 |
| 7/5, 10/7 | 4.154 | 15.6 |
| 9/5, 10/9 | 4.263 | 16.0 |
| 5/3, 6/5 | 4.359 | 16.3 |
| 11/10, 20/11 | 5.004 | 18.8 |
| 13/7, 14/13 | 5.035 | 18.9 |
| 15/8, 16/15 | 5.065 | 19.0 |
| 13/12, 24/13 | 5.239 | 19.6 |
| 15/13, 26/15 | 7.741 | 29.0 |
| 9/7, 14/9 | 8.417 | 31.6 |
| 3/2, 4/3 | 8.622 | 32.3 |
| 11/8, 16/11 | 8.682 | 32.6 |
| 7/4, 8/7 | 8.826 | 33.1 |
| 11/7, 14/11 | 9.159 | 34.3 |
| 11/6, 12/11 | 9.363 | 35.1 |
| 9/8, 16/9 | 9.423 | 35.3 |
| 15/14, 28/15 | 12.776 | 47.9 |
| 13/8, 16/13 | 12.806 | 48.0 |
| 5/4, 8/5 | 12.980 | 48.7 |
| Interval and complement | Error (abs, ¢) | Error (rel, %) |
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| 1/1, 2/1 | 0.000 | 0.0 |
| 7/6, 12/7 | 0.204 | 0.8 |
| 13/11, 22/13 | 4.124 | 15.5 |
| 7/5, 10/7 | 4.154 | 15.6 |
| 9/5, 10/9 | 4.263 | 16.0 |
| 5/3, 6/5 | 4.359 | 16.3 |
| 9/7, 14/9 | 8.417 | 31.6 |
| 3/2, 4/3 | 8.622 | 32.3 |
| 11/8, 16/11 | 8.682 | 32.6 |
| 7/4, 8/7 | 8.826 | 33.1 |
| 15/14, 28/15 | 12.776 | 47.9 |
| 13/8, 16/13 | 12.806 | 48.0 |
| 5/4, 8/5 | 12.980 | 48.7 |
| 9/8, 16/9 | 17.243 | 64.7 |
| 11/6, 12/11 | 17.304 | 64.9 |
| 11/7, 14/11 | 17.508 | 65.7 |
| 13/12, 24/13 | 21.427 | 80.4 |
| 15/8, 16/15 | 21.602 | 81.0 |
| 13/7, 14/13 | 21.632 | 81.1 |
| 11/10, 20/11 | 21.662 | 81.2 |
| 13/10, 20/13 | 25.786 | 96.7 |
| 11/9, 18/11 | 25.925 | 97.2 |
| 13/9, 18/13 | 30.049 | 112.7 |
| 15/11, 22/15 | 30.284 | 113.6 |
| 15/13, 26/15 | 34.408 | 129.0 |
| Interval and complement | Error (abs, ¢) | Error (rel, %) |
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| 1/1, 2/1 | 0.000 | 0.0 |
| 7/6, 12/7 | 0.204 | 0.8 |
| 11/9, 18/11 | 0.741 | 2.8 |
| 13/10, 20/13 | 0.881 | 3.3 |
| 13/9, 18/13 | 3.382 | 12.7 |
| 15/11, 22/15 | 3.617 | 13.6 |
| 13/11, 22/13 | 4.124 | 15.5 |
| 7/5, 10/7 | 4.154 | 15.6 |
| 9/5, 10/9 | 4.263 | 16.0 |
| 5/3, 6/5 | 4.359 | 16.3 |
| 11/10, 20/11 | 5.004 | 18.8 |
| 13/7, 14/13 | 5.035 | 18.9 |
| 13/12, 24/13 | 5.239 | 19.6 |
| 15/13, 26/15 | 7.741 | 29.0 |
| 9/7, 14/9 | 8.417 | 31.6 |
| 3/2, 4/3 | 8.622 | 32.3 |
| 7/4, 8/7 | 8.826 | 33.1 |
| 11/7, 14/11 | 9.159 | 34.3 |
| 11/6, 12/11 | 9.363 | 35.1 |
| 15/14, 28/15 | 12.776 | 47.9 |
| 5/4, 8/5 | 12.980 | 48.7 |
| 13/8, 16/13 | 13.861 | 52.0 |
| 9/8, 16/9 | 17.243 | 64.7 |
| 11/8, 16/11 | 17.985 | 67.4 |
| 15/8, 16/15 | 21.602 | 81.0 |
Regular temperament properties
| Subgroup | Comma list | Mapping | Optimal 8ve stretch (¢) |
Tuning error | |
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| Absolute (¢) | Relative (%) | ||||
| 2.3 | [-71 45⟩ | [⟨45 71]] | +2.72 | 2.73 | 10.2 |
| 2.3.5 | 81/80, [-27 1 11⟩ | [⟨45 71 104]] | +3.68 | 2.61 | 9.75 |
| 2.3.5.7 | 81/80, 525/512, 2401/2400 | [⟨45 71 104 126]] | +3.55 | 2.27 | 8.49 |
| 2.3.5.7.13 | 65/64, 81/80, 105/104, 2401/2400 | [⟨45 71 104 126 166]] (45f) | +3.59 | 2.03 | 7.60 |
Commas
This is a partial list of the commas that 45et tempers out with its patent val, ⟨45 71 104 126 143 156 167].
| Prime limit |
Ratio[note 1] | Monzo | Cents | Color name | Name(s) |
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| 5 | 81/80 | [-4 4 -1⟩ | 21.51 | Gu | Syntonic comma, Didymus' comma, meantone comma |
| 5 | (26 digits) | [1 -27 18⟩ | 0.86 | Satritribiyo | Ennealimma |
| 7 | 16807/16384 | [-14 0 0 5⟩ | 44.13 | Laquinzo | Cloudy comma |
| 7 | 525/512 | [-9 1 2 1⟩ | 43.41 | Lazoyoyo | Avicennma, Avicenna's enharmonic diesis |
| 7 | 875/864 | [-5 -3 3 1⟩ | 21.90 | Zotrigu | Keema |
| 7 | 3125/3087 | [0 -2 5 -3⟩ | 21.18 | Triru-aquinyo | Gariboh comma |
| 7 | (16 digits) | [-11 -9 0 9⟩ | 1.84 | Tritrizo | Septimal ennealimma |
| 7 | 4375/4374 | [-1 -7 4 1⟩ | 0.40 | Zoquadyo | Ragisma |
| 11 | 45/44 | [-2 2 1 0 -1⟩ | 38.91 | Luyo | Undecimal 1/5-tone |
| 11 | 385/384 | [-7 -1 1 1 1⟩ | 4.50 | Lozoyo | Keenanisma |
| 11 | (18 digits) | [24 -6 0 1 -5⟩ | 0.51 | Saquinlu-azo | Quartisma |
- ↑ Ratios longer than 10 digits are presented by placeholders with informative hints.
Rank-2 temperaments
| Periods per 8ve |
Generator* | Cents* | Associated ratio* |
Temperament |
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| 1 | 1\45 | 26.7 | 49/48 | Sfourth |
| 1 | 2\45 | 53.3 | 36/35 | Chromo |
| 1 | 7\45 | 186.7 | 10/9 | Mintone |
| 1 | 11\45 | 293.3 | 25/21 | Quasitemp |
| 1 | 14\45 | 373.3 | 5/4 | Submerged |
| 1 | 16\45 | 426.7 | 9/7 | Squares |
| 1 | 23\45 | 453.3 | 13/10 | Maja |
| 1 | 19\45 | 506.7 | 4/3 | Flattone |
| 3 | 19\45 (4\45) |
506.7 (106.7) |
4/3 (15/14) |
Lithium |
| 5 | 19\45 (1\45) |
506.7 (26.7) |
4/3 (49/48) |
Cloudtone |
| 9 | 12\45 (2\45) |
320.0 (53.3) |
6/5 (36/35) |
Ennealimmal |
| 15 | 19\45 (1\45) |
506.7 (26.7) |
4/3 (126/125) |
Pentadecal |
* Octave-reduced form, reduced to the first half-octave, and minimal form in parentheses if distinct
Octave stretch and compression
45edo's approximations of 3/1, 5/1, 7/1, 11/1 and 13/1 and 17/1 are all improved by a stretched-octave version of 45edo, such as 161ed12 or 116ed6. The trade-off is a slightly worse 2/1. 207zpi also improves on all of those harmonics except for 17/1.
The tuning 183ed17 may also be used, it improves 3/1, 5/1, 7/1, 11/1, 13/1 and 17/1 (with different mappings for many) but at the cost of a noticeably worse 2/1 than the others.
71edt is notable as an octave-stretched version of 45edo for having an extremely accurate 3/1, 5/1 and 11/1.
Scales
- Cloudtone[10] - recommended by Maeve Gutierrez: 8 1 8 1 8 1 8 1 8 1
- JUMBLE's "moment of chaos scale": 3 9 6 1 4 7 2 5 8 (used in several works including Archipelago Arpeggio and FERAL (45edo microtonal ambient track))
- 13-tone 5&9edo scale: 5 4 1 5 3 2 5 2 3 5 1 4 5
- 12-tone 5&9edo scale[idiosyncratic term]: 5 4 1 5 3 2 5 2 3 5 5 5
Instruments
Lumatone
See Lumatone mapping for 45edo
Music
Modern renderings
- Brakence (Randall Todd Findell)
- Crystallized (2026) — microtonal cover in 45edo by Bryan Deister (2026)
21st century
- (short clip) Fantasy in 45edo (2025)
- Twin Arrows [45edo] (2026)
- Fishbowl (2023)
- Archipelago Arpeggio (2024)
- Fallen Angel (2024)
- Solar Guardian (2024)
- Qúchze úzeq Qávka (2025)
- Sodium Light (45edo Microtonal Chillwave) (2026)
- Yēú Zee Kiidhai (45edo microtonal ambient) (2026)
- FERAL (45edo microtonal ambient track) (2026)
- Chmelui-Múzeq - Haoýoze (45edo Microtonal Ambient) (2026)
- Chmelui-Múzeq - Luásoidq (45edo microtonal ambient) (2026)
- Chmelui-Múzeq - Qidloloba (45edo microtonal dark ambient) (2026)
- JOYRIDE! (Funky 45edo Driving Music) (2026)
- may you live in boring times (2026)