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Revision as of 13:35, 9 March 2024
| ← 42edo | 43edo | 44edo → |
Template:EDO intro One step of 43edo was named méride by Joseph Sauveur (1653-1716) in 1696. The méride and eptaméride were the first logarithmic interval measures proposed. Sauveur favoured 43-tone equal temperament because the small intervals are well represented in it. [1]
Theory
43edo is strongly associated with meantone, particularly 1/5-comma meantone, being a good tuning system in the 5, 7, 11, and 13-limit. In the 7-limit, it supports septimal meantone, as it tempers out 3136/3125, along with 126/125 and 225/224. The version of 11-limit meantone is the one tempering out 99/98, 176/175 and 441/440, sometimes called Huygens. 43-equal has the first good 13-limit meantone available as an equal division of the octave. The baroque, French, ironically hearing and speech impaired acoustician Joseph Sauveur based his system on 43 equal tones to the octave, calling them "merides". Further information: Tonalsoft encyclopedia entry of meride.
The composer Juhan Puhm uses 43edo in some of his meantone suites for fortepiano and prefers it to 31edo.
In the 13-limit, we get two versions of meantone equivalent in 43et, one, meridetone, tempering out 78/77, the other, grosstone, 144/143. Meridetone has generator map ⟨0 1 4 10 18 27], and grosstone ⟨0 1 4 10 18 -16]; 43 supplies the optimal patent val for meridetone.
The 43 patent val ⟨43 68 100 121 149 159] maps 5 to 100 steps, allowing the divison of 5 into 20 equal parts, leading to the jerome temperament, an interesting higher-limit system for which 43 supplies the optimal patent val in the 7-, 11-, 13-, 17-, 19- and 23-limit. It also provides the optimal patent val for the 11- and 13-limit amavil temperament, which is not a meantone temperament. The thuja temperament is also a possibility, in which five generators, (~11/8)5 = ~5/1, with mos of 15 and 28.
Prime harmonics
Although not consistent, it performs quite well in very high prime limits. It has unambiguous mappings for all prime harmonics up to 113, with the sole exceptions of 23, 71, 89, and 103, making a great Ringer scale. Mappings for composite harmonics and ratios between these prime harmonics can then be derived from those for the primes themselves, allowing for an almost-complete version of the first 32 harmonics in the harmonic series, although the limited consistency will give some unusual results. Indeed, the step size of 43edo is very close to the septimal comma (64/63), while two steps is close to 32/31, and four steps to 16/15.
| Harmonic | 2 | 3 | 5 | 7 | 11 | 13 | 17 | 19 | 23 | 29 | 31 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Error | Absolute (¢) | +0.0 | -4.3 | +4.4 | +7.9 | +6.8 | -3.3 | +6.7 | +9.5 | +13.6 | +3.0 | -0.8 |
| Relative (%) | +0.0 | -15.3 | +15.7 | +28.4 | +24.4 | -11.9 | +23.9 | +33.9 | +48.7 | +10.7 | -3.0 | |
| Steps (reduced) |
43 (0) |
68 (25) |
100 (14) |
121 (35) |
149 (20) |
159 (30) |
176 (4) |
183 (11) |
195 (23) |
209 (37) |
213 (41) | |
Divisors
43edo is the 14th prime edo, following 41edo and coming before 47edo.
Intervals
The distance from C to C# is 3 edosteps (or keys, frets). Thus one edostep equals one third of a sharp.
| # | Cents | Approximate 17-limit Ratios | Ups and Downs Notation | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0.000 | 1/1 | P1 | perfect unison | D |
| 1 | 27.907 | 36/35, 50/49, 64/63, 65/64, 66/65 | ^1, d2 | up unison, dim 2nd | ^D, Ebb |
| 2 | 55.814 | 49/48, 33/32 | vA1, ^d2 | downaug unison, updim 2nd | vD#, ^Ebb |
| 3 | 83.721 | 25/24, 21/20, 28/27, 22/21, 18/17 | vm2 | downminor 2nd | vEb |
| 4 | 111.628 | 16/15, 15/14, 17/16 | m2 | minor 2nd | Eb |
| 5 | 139.535 | 12/11, 13/12, 14/13 | ^m2 | upminor 2nd | ^Eb |
| 6 | 167.442 | 11/10 | vM2 | downmajor 2nd | vE |
| 7 | 195.349 | 9/8, 10/9 | M2 | major 2nd | E |
| 8 | 223.256 | 8/7 | ^M2 | upmajor 2nd | ^E |
| 9 | 251.163 | 15/13 | vA2, ^d3 | downaug 2nd, updim 3rd | vE#, ^Fb |
| 10 | 279.070 | 7/6, 13/11 | vm3 | downminor 3rd | vF |
| 11 | 306.977 | 6/5 | m3 | minor 3rd | F |
| 12 | 334.884 | 39/32, 17/14 | ^m3 | upminor 3rd | ^F |
| 13 | 362.791 | 16/13, 21/17, 11/9 | vM3 | downmajor 3rd | vF# |
| 14 | 390.698 | 5/4 | M3 | major 3rd | F# |
| 15 | 418.605 | 9/7, 14/11 | ^M3 | upmajor 3rd | ^F# |
| 16 | 446.512 | 13/10 | vA3, ^d4 | downaug 3rd, updim 4th | vFx, ^Gb |
| 17 | 474.419 | 21/16 | v4 | down 4th | vG |
| 18 | 502.326 | 4/3 | P4 | perfect 4th | G |
| 19 | 530.233 | 15/11 | ^4 | up 4th | ^G |
| 20 | 558.140 | 11/8, 18/13 | vA4 | downaug 4th | vG# |
| 21 | 586.047 | 45/32, 7/5, 24/17 | A4, vd5 | aug 4th, downdim 5th | G#, ^Ab |
| 22 | 613.953 | 64/45, 10/7, 17/12 | ^A4, d5 | upaug 4th, dim 5th | ^G#, Ab |
| 23 | 641.860 | 16/11, 13/9 | ^d5 | updim 5th | ^Ab |
| 24 | 669.767 | 22/15 | v5 | down 5th | vA |
| 25 | 697.674 | 3/2 | P5 | perfect 5th | A |
| 26 | 725.581 | 32/21 | ^5 | up 5th | ^A |
| 27 | 753.488 | 20/13 | vA5, ^d6 | downaug 5th, updim 6th | vA#, ^Bbb |
| 28 | 781.395 | 14/9, 11/7 | vm6 | downminor 6th | vBb |
| 29 | 809.302 | 8/5 | m6 | minor 6th | Bb |
| 30 | 837.209 | 13/8, 34/21, 18/11 | ^m6 | upminor 6th | ^Bb |
| 31 | 865.116 | 64/39, 28/17 | vM6 | downmajor 6th | vB |
| 32 | 893.023 | 5/3 | M6 | major 6th | B |
| 33 | 920.930 | 12/7, 22/13 | ^M6 | upmajor 6th | ^B |
| 34 | 948.837 | 26/15 | vA6, ^d7 | downaug 6th, updim 7th | vB#, ^Cb |
| 35 | 976.744 | 7/4 | vm7 | downminor 7th | vC |
| 36 | 1004.651 | 16/9, 9/5 | m7 | minor 7th | C |
| 37 | 1032.558 | 20/11 | ^m7 | upminor 7th | ^C |
| 38 | 1060.465 | 11/6, 24/13, 13/7 | vM7 | downmajor 7th | vC# |
| 39 | 1088.372 | 15/8, 28/15, 32/17 | M7 | major 7th | C# |
| 40 | 1116.279 | 48/25, 40/21, 27/14, 21/11, 17/9 | ^M7 | upmajor 7th | ^C# |
| 41 | 1144.186 | 96/49, 64/33 | vA7, ^d8 | downaug 7th, updim 8ve | vCx, ^Db |
| 42 | 1172.093 | 35/18, 49/25, 63/32, 65/33, 128/65 | A7, v8 | aug 7th, down 8ve | Cx, vD |
| 43 | 1200.000 | 2/1 | P8 | perfect 8ve | D |
Chords can be named using ups and downs as C upminor, D downmajor seven, etc. See Ups and Downs Notation #Chords and Chord Progressions.
JI approximation
Selected just intervals
15-odd-limit mappings
The following table shows how 15-odd-limit intervals are represented in 43edo. Prime harmonics are in bold; inconsistent intervals are in italic.
| Interval, complement | Error (abs, ¢) | Error (rel, %) |
|---|---|---|
| 16/15, 15/8 | 0.103 | 0.4 |
| 13/12, 24/13 | 0.962 | 3.4 |
| 14/11, 11/7 | 1.097 | 3.9 |
| 11/10, 20/11 | 2.438 | 8.7 |
| 16/13, 13/8 | 3.318 | 11.9 |
| 15/13, 26/15 | 3.422 | 12.3 |
| 7/5, 10/7 | 3.534 | 12.7 |
| 4/3, 3/2 | 4.281 | 15.3 |
| 5/4, 8/5 | 4.384 | 15.7 |
| 18/13, 13/9 | 5.243 | 18.8 |
| 15/11, 22/15 | 6.718 | 24.1 |
| 11/8, 16/11 | 6.822 | 24.4 |
| 13/10, 20/13 | 7.702 | 27.6 |
| 15/14, 28/15 | 7.815 | 28.0 |
| 8/7, 7/4 | 7.918 | 28.4 |
| 9/8, 16/9 | 8.561 | 30.7 |
| 6/5, 5/3 | 8.665 | 31.0 |
| 13/11, 22/13 | 10.140 | 36.3 |
| 12/11, 11/6 | 11.102 | 39.8 |
| 14/13, 13/7 | 11.237 | 40.3 |
| 9/7, 14/9 | 11.428 | 40.9 |
| 7/6, 12/7 | 12.199 | 43.7 |
| 11/9, 18/11 | 12.524 | 44.9 |
| 10/9, 9/5 | 12.945 | 46.4 |
The following tables show how 15-odd-limit intervals are represented in 43edo. Prime harmonics are in bold; inconsistent intervals are in italics.
| Interval and complement | Error (abs, ¢) | Error (rel, %) |
|---|---|---|
| 1/1, 2/1 | 0.000 | 0.0 |
| 15/8, 16/15 | 0.103 | 0.4 |
| 13/12, 24/13 | 0.962 | 3.4 |
| 11/7, 14/11 | 1.097 | 3.9 |
| 11/10, 20/11 | 2.438 | 8.7 |
| 13/8, 16/13 | 3.318 | 11.9 |
| 15/13, 26/15 | 3.422 | 12.3 |
| 7/5, 10/7 | 3.534 | 12.7 |
| 3/2, 4/3 | 4.281 | 15.3 |
| 5/4, 8/5 | 4.384 | 15.7 |
| 13/9, 18/13 | 5.243 | 18.8 |
| 15/11, 22/15 | 6.718 | 24.1 |
| 11/8, 16/11 | 6.822 | 24.4 |
| 13/10, 20/13 | 7.702 | 27.6 |
| 15/14, 28/15 | 7.815 | 28.0 |
| 7/4, 8/7 | 7.918 | 28.4 |
| 9/8, 16/9 | 8.561 | 30.7 |
| 5/3, 6/5 | 8.665 | 31.0 |
| 13/11, 22/13 | 10.140 | 36.3 |
| 11/6, 12/11 | 11.102 | 39.8 |
| 13/7, 14/13 | 11.237 | 40.3 |
| 9/7, 14/9 | 11.428 | 40.9 |
| 7/6, 12/7 | 12.199 | 43.7 |
| 11/9, 18/11 | 12.524 | 44.9 |
| 9/5, 10/9 | 12.945 | 46.4 |
| Interval and complement | Error (abs, ¢) | Error (rel, %) |
|---|---|---|
| 1/1, 2/1 | 0.000 | 0.0 |
| 15/8, 16/15 | 0.103 | 0.4 |
| 13/12, 24/13 | 0.962 | 3.4 |
| 11/7, 14/11 | 1.097 | 3.9 |
| 11/10, 20/11 | 2.438 | 8.7 |
| 13/8, 16/13 | 3.318 | 11.9 |
| 15/13, 26/15 | 3.422 | 12.3 |
| 7/5, 10/7 | 3.534 | 12.7 |
| 3/2, 4/3 | 4.281 | 15.3 |
| 5/4, 8/5 | 4.384 | 15.7 |
| 13/9, 18/13 | 5.243 | 18.8 |
| 15/11, 22/15 | 6.718 | 24.1 |
| 11/8, 16/11 | 6.822 | 24.4 |
| 13/10, 20/13 | 7.702 | 27.6 |
| 15/14, 28/15 | 7.815 | 28.0 |
| 7/4, 8/7 | 7.918 | 28.4 |
| 9/8, 16/9 | 8.561 | 30.7 |
| 5/3, 6/5 | 8.665 | 31.0 |
| 13/11, 22/13 | 10.140 | 36.3 |
| 11/6, 12/11 | 11.102 | 39.8 |
| 13/7, 14/13 | 11.237 | 40.3 |
| 7/6, 12/7 | 12.199 | 43.7 |
| 9/5, 10/9 | 12.945 | 46.4 |
| 11/9, 18/11 | 15.383 | 55.1 |
| 9/7, 14/9 | 16.479 | 59.1 |
Notation
Red-Blue Notation
Because 43edo is a meantone system, this makes it easier to adapt traditional Western notation to it than to some other tunings. A# and Bb are distinct and the distance between them is one meride. The whole tone is divided into seven merides so this means we can use "third-sharps", "two-thirds-sharps", "third-flats", and "two-thirds-flats" to reach the remaining notes between A and B; notes elsewhere on the scale can be notated similarly.
Alternatively, a red-note/blue-note system (similar to that proposed for sixth-tones/36edo) can be used. (This is a different use of color than Kite's color notation.) Now we have the following sequence of notes, each separated by one meride: A, red A, blue A#, A#, Bb, red Bb, blue B, B. (Note that there are red flats and blue sharps, but no red sharps or blue flats, because the latter are enharmonically equivalent to simpler notes: blue Bb is actually just A#, for instance).
The diatonic semitone is four steps, so for the region between B and C (or, E and F), we can use: B, Cb, red Cb/blue B# (they are enharmonic equivalents), B#, and C. All of the notes in 43edo therefore have unambiguous names except for two: red Cb/blue B#, and red Fb/blue E#. It might also be possible to design special symbols for those two notes (resembling a cross between the letters B and C in the former case, and E and F in the latter).
If red Cb and blue B# (and red Fb/blue E#) are instead forced to be distinct, but the requirement that all notes be equally spaced is maintained, then we end up with a completely unambiguous red-note/blue-note notation for 45edo, which is another meantone (actually, a flattone) system.
Sagittal
The following table shows sagittal notation accidentals in one apotome for 43do.
| Steps | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Symbol |
Regular temperament properties
| Subgroup | Comma List | Mapping | Optimal 8ve Stretch (¢) |
Tuning Error | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Absolute (¢) | Relative (%) | ||||
| 2.3 | [-68 43⟩ | [⟨43 68]] | +1.35 | 1.35 | 4.84 |
| 2.3.5 | 81/80, 50331648/48828125 | [⟨43 68 100]] | +0.27 | 1.88 | 6.75 |
| 2.3.5.7 | 81/80, 126/125, 17280/16807 | [⟨43 68 100 121]] | -0.51 | 2.11 | 7.56 |
| 2.3.5.7.11 | 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 864/847 | [⟨43 68 100 121 149]] | -0.80 | 1.98 | 7.08 |
| 2.3.5.7.11.13 | 78/77, 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 144/143 | [⟨43 68 100 121 149 159]] | -0.52 | 1.91 | 6.85 |
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | 78/77, 81/80, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125, 144/143 | [⟨43 68 100 121 149 159 176]] | -0.52 | 1.81 | 6.49 |
Commas
This is a partial list of the commas that 43edo tempers out with its patent val, ⟨43 68 100 121 149 159 176].
| Prime Limit |
Ratio[2] | Monzo | Cents | Color name | Name(s) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3 | (42 digits) | [-68 43⟩ | 184.07 | 43-comma | |
| 5 | (18 digits) | [20 5 -12⟩ | 74.01 | ||
| 5 | 81/80 | [-4 4 -1⟩ | 21.51 | Gu | Syntonic comma, Didymus comma, meantone comma |
| 5 | (20 digits) | [32 -7 -9⟩ | 9.49 | Sasa-tritrigu | Escapade comma |
| 5 | (42 digits) | [-68 18 17⟩ | 2.52 | Vavoom comma | |
| 7 | 126/125 | [1 2 -3 1⟩ | 13.80 | Zotrigu | Starling comma |
| 7 | 3136/3125 | [6 0 -5 2⟩ | 6.08 | Zozoquingu | Hemimean comma |
| 7 | 225/224 | [-5 2 2 -1⟩ | 7.71 | Ruyoyo | Marvel comma |
| 11 | 99/98 | [-1 2 0 -2 1⟩ | 17.58 | Loruru | Mothwellsma |
| 11 | 176/175 | [4 0 -2 -1 1⟩ | 9.86 | Lorugugu | Valinorsma |
| 11 | 441/440 | [-3 2 -1 2 -1⟩ | 3.93 | Luzozogu | Werckisma |
| 13 | 78/77 | [1 1 0 -1 -1 1⟩ | 22.34 | Tholuru | Negustma |
| 13 | 144/143 | [4 2 0 0 -1 -1⟩ | 12.06 | Thulu | Grossma |
| 13 | 169/168 | [-3 -1 0 -1 0 2⟩ | 10.27 | Thothoru | Buzurgisma, dhanvantarisma |
| 17 | 221/220 | [-2 0 -1 0 -1 1 1⟩ | 7.85 | Sotholugu | Minor naiadma |
| 17 | 256/255 | [8 -1 -1 0 0 0 -1⟩ | 6.78 | Sugu | Charisma, septendecimal kleisma |
| 17 | 120/119 | [3 1 1 -1 0 0 -1⟩ | 14.49 | Suruyo | Lynchisma |
| 19 | 96/95 | [5 1 -1 0 0 0 0 -1⟩ | 18.13 | Nugu | 19th Partial chroma |
| 19 | 209/208 | [-4 0 0 0 1 -1 0 1⟩ | 8.30 | Nothulo | Yama comma |
| 19 | 273/272 | [5 1 -1 0 0 0 0 -1⟩ | 18.13 | Suthozo | Tannisma |
Rank-2 temperaments
| Periods per 8ve |
Generator (Reduced) |
Cents (Reduced) |
Associated Ratio (Reduced) |
Temperament |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1\43 | 27.91 | 64/63 | Arch |
| 1 | 2\43 | 55.81 | 33/32 | Escapade |
| 1 | 4\43 | 111.63 | 16/15 | Vavoom |
| 1 | 5\43 | 139.53 | 13/12 | Jerome |
| 1 | 7\43 | 195.35 | 28/25 | Didacus |
| 1 | 8\43 | 223.26 | 8/7 | Kumonga |
| 1 | 9\43 | 251.16 | 15/13 | Hemimeantone |
| 1 | 10\43 | 279.07 | 75/64 | Decipentic |
| 1 | 11\43 | 334.88 | 17/14 | Cohemimabila |
| 1 | 13\43 | 362.79 | 16/13 | Submajor (43e) / interpental (43) |
| 1 | 14\43 | 390.70 | 5/4 | Amigo |
| 1 | 16\43 | 446.51 | 13/10 | Supersensi |
| 1 | 18\43 | 502.33 | 4/3 | Meantone |
| 1 | 19\43 | 530.23 | 15/11 | Amavil |
| 1 | 20\43 | 558.14 | 11/8 | Thuja |
| 1 | 21\43 | 586.05 | 7/5 | Merman |
Detemperaments
Ringer 43
The metaphorical color palette that the intervals of 43edo present can be quite appealing for various reasons such as being meantone and splitting 4/3 into 6 equal parts and 3/2 into 5 equal parts, but the accuracy leaves one wanting in many cases, which is why an excellent alternative (given the unambiguity of mappings of all primes in the 109-limit except 71 and 89) is Ringer 43, a Ringer scale with 43 notes per octave period:
55:56:57:58:59:60:61:62:63:64:65:66:67:68:69:70:72:73:74:75:76:78:79:80:82:83:84:86:87:88:90:91:92:94:96:97:98:100:102:104:106:108:109:110
Or equivalently in the form of reduced, rooted intervals:
65/64, 33/32, 67/64, 17/16, 69/64, 35/32, 9/8, 73/64, 37/32, 75/64, 19/16, 39/32, 79/64, 5/4, 41/32, 83/64, 21/16, 43/32, 87/64, 11/8, 45/32, 91/64, 23/16, 47/32, 3/2, 97/64, 49/32, 25/16, 51/64, 13/8, 53/32, 27/16, 109/64, 55/32, 7/4, 57/32, 29/16, 59/32, 15/8, 61/32, 31/16, 63/32, 2/1
Scales
Music
Modern renderings
- "Contrapunctus 4" from The Art of Fugue, BWV 1080 (1742–1749) – rendered by Claudi Meneghin (2024)
- Prelude in E Minor "The Great" – rendered by Claudi Meneghin (2023)
21st century
- 43 edo counterpoint.mid mp3[dead link] – in meantone (late 2011)
- Meantone Suite V in D Minor score (2017)
- Time Travel (2021)
Articles
- Harmonic Resources of 43Et EMT and 43EBMT by Juhan Puhm (2018)
Diagrams
- Keys and Modes of 43Et by Juhan Puhm (2016)
- Keyboard Mapping for 43Et by Juhan Puhm (2017)
- Mapping Range for 43Et by Juhan Puhm (2017)
Instruments
References
- ↑ Stichting Huygens-Fokker: Logarithmic Interval Measures
- ↑ Ratios longer than 10 digits are presented by placeholders with informative hints