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=== Charic ===
=== Charic ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.17
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.17
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 5 | 0 1 0 -1 | 0 0 1 -1 }}


Patent EDO tunings with [[relative error]] < 1/3 for all generators: {{Optimal ET sequence|3, 9, 10, 12, 15, 21, 22, 24, 31, 32, 34, 43, 44, 46, 55, 56, 58, 65, 68, 77, 80, 111, 114, 145 }}
Patent EDO tunings with [[relative error]] < 1/3 for all generators: {{Optimal ET sequence|3, 9, 10, 12, 15, 21, 22, 24, 31, 32, 34, 43, 44, 46, 55, 56, 58, 65, 68, 77, 80, 111, 114, 145 }}
{{mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 5 | 0 1 0 -1 | 0 0 1 -1 }}


[[CTE]] generators: (2/1,) 3/2 = 702.647, 5/4 = 387.798  
[[CTE]] generators: (2/1,) 3/2 = 702.647, 5/4 = 387.798  
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=== [[Srutal archagall]] ===
=== [[Srutal archagall]] ===
By also tempering the [[semitonisma]], [[256/255]], an efficient temperament known as [[Srutal archagall]] is achieved, which is equivalently described as [[charic]] [[semitonic]].
By also tempering the semitonisma ([[289/288]]), an efficient temperament known as [[Srutal archagall]] is achieved, which is equivalently described as [[charic]] [[semitonic]].


This is because of a general fact of [[S-expression]]s; in this case it manifests as that: {[[diaschisma|S16<sup>2</sup> × S17]] , [[24576/24565|S16/S17]]} = {[[256/255|S16]], [[289/288|S17]]}
This is because of a general fact of [[S-expression]]s; in this case it manifests as that: {[[diaschisma|S16<sup>2</sup> × S17]] , [[24576/24565|S16/S17]]} = {[[256/255|S16]], [[289/288|S17]]}
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The "char" in the name ''charisma'' (or ''char comma'') refers to the char data type in C-derived programming languages, where the char represents a byte of at least or exactly 8 bits. Thereby, the maximum unsigned value for an 8-bit char is 255 and the number of values an 8-bit char can take is 256, hence 256/255.
The "char" in the name ''charisma'' (or ''char comma'') refers to the char data type in C-derived programming languages, where the char represents a byte of at least or exactly 8 bits. Thereby, the maximum unsigned value for an 8-bit char is 255 and the number of values an 8-bit char can take is 256, hence 256/255.


The former name ''diasemisma'' was proposed by [[User:Xenllium|Xenllium]] in May 2023. It is a contraction of ''diatonic semitone'' into a single word. In some contexts, both [[16/15]] and [[17/16]] are considered minor second (ie. [[diatonic semitone]]), namely classical diatonic semitone and minor diatonic semitone respectively. However, a rename to ''charisma'' was proposed as part of an effort to make naming more standardised and for a number of reasons including potential confusion with [[diasem]] and the former nonconforming naming of [[horcrux]] in the 11- and 13-limit (which were formerly named "charisma" and "charismic", creating a potential false impression that the former was a comma, not a temperament, and that the latter was the temperament defined by tempering that comma in the corresponding prime limit); specifically, see [[Talk:256/255]] and [[Temperament naming #Contemporary rules]] for details.
The former name ''diasemisma'' was proposed by [[User:Xenllium|Xenllium]] in May 2023. It is a contraction of ''diatonic semitone'' into a single word. In some contexts, both [[16/15]] and [[17/16]] are considered minor second (ie. [[diatonic semitone]]), namely classical diatonic semitone and minor diatonic semitone respectively. However, a rename to ''charisma'' was proposed as part of an effort to make naming more standardised and for a number of reasons including potential confusion with [[diasem]] and the former nonconforming naming of [[horcrux]] in the 11- and 13-limit (which were formerly named "charisma" and "charismic", creating a potential false impression that the former was a comma, not a temperament, and that the latter was the temperament defined by tempering that comma in the corresponding prime limit); specifically, see the [[Talk:256/255|talk page]] and [[Temperament naming #Contemporary rules]] for details.


The rename took place as Starshine (from the [[XA Discord]] server) suggested (half-jokingly) that a chance had been missed to name it the ''charisma'' in December 2023, a name which [[User:Godtone|Godtone]] took favor to and championed which then caused awareness of nonconforming names of two [[horcrux]] temeraments. A revision to ''charsma'' (no-''i'' spelling) was proposed by Xenllium in January 2024 for disambiguation but this would cause inconsistency with the -ic/-ismic/-isma rule which is a reason that those same temperaments were already being proposed to be renamed.
The rename took place as Starshine (from the [[XA Discord]] server) suggested (half-jokingly) that a chance had been missed to name it the ''charisma'' in December 2023, a name which [[User:Godtone|Godtone]] took favor to and championed which then caused awareness of nonconforming names of two [[horcrux]] temeraments. A revision to ''charsma'' (no-''i'' spelling) was proposed by Xenllium in January 2024 for disambiguation but this would cause inconsistency with the -ic/-ismic/-isma rule which is a reason that those same temperaments were already being proposed to be renamed.