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It also appears in chords such as 8:11:14, the principal triad of [[orgone]] temperament.  
It also appears in chords such as 8:11:14, the principal triad of [[orgone]] temperament.  
== Approximation ==
== Approximation ==
{{Interval_Edo_Approximation | 14/11}}
{{Interval edo approximation|14/11}}
== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[11/7]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[11/7]] – its [[octave complement]]

Revision as of 13:04, 3 November 2025

Interval information
Ratio 14/11
Factorization 2 × 7 × 11-1
Monzo [1 0 0 1 -1
Size in cents 417.508¢
Names undecimal major third,
pentacircle major third
Color name 1uz4, luzo 4th
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{P4}^{7}_{11} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 7.26679
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 7.61471
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 20

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In 11-limit just intonation, 14/11 is an undecimal major third, specifically the pentacircle major third, or neogothic major third, a major or supermajor third of about 417.5¢. It represents the difference between the 11th and 14th harmonics of the harmonic series.

In many notation systems based on the 3-limit with commatic alterations (e.g. FJS, HEJI), it is an imperfect fourth, as it is a perfect fourth (4/3) minus an instance of 22/21, which is a stack consisting of an undecimal quartertone (33/32) and a septimal comma (64/63), neither of which changes the scale degree or quality. However, it is only sharp of the Pythagorean (3-limit) major third of 81/64 (about 407.8¢) by a pentacircle comma (896/891), which makes it function more often as a major third, hence the names.

14/11 can function as a neo-Gothic major third, as it falls between 5/4 and 9/7. Indeed, it is the mediant ratio between those simpler intervals, as it is (5 + 9)/(4 + 7), and is 56/55 sharp of 5/4, 99/98 flat of 9/7. Other relatively simple thirds in this region can be generated by taking the mediant between 5/4 and 14/11 (which is (5 + 14)/(4 + 11) = 19/15, about 409.2¢) and between 14/11 and 9/7 (which is (14 + 9)/(11 + 7) = 23/18, about 424.4¢. The fact that this interval functions as a type of third is one of the reasons why 7/4, the octave reduced version of the 14th harmonic, can be argued to be a type of "sinth" – a cross between a sixth and a seventh- as opposed to merely a subminor seventh.

It also appears in chords such as 8:11:14, the principal triad of orgone temperament.

Approximation

Edo approximations for 14/11 (417.51 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
3 1\3 400.00 -17.51 -4.38
6 2\6 400.00 -17.51 -8.75
17 6\17 423.53 +6.02 +8.53
20 7\20 420.00 +2.49 +4.15
23 8\23 417.39 -0.12 -0.22
26 9\26 415.38 -2.12 -4.60
29 10\29 413.79 -3.71 -8.98
40 14\40 420.00 +2.49 +8.31
43 15\43 418.60 +1.10 +3.93
46 16\46 417.39 -0.12 -0.45
49 17\49 416.33 -1.18 -4.82
52 18\52 415.38 -2.12 -9.20
63 22\63 419.05 +1.54 +8.08
66 23\66 418.18 +0.67 +3.71
69 24\69 417.39 -0.12 -0.67
72 25\72 416.67 -0.84 -5.05
75 26\75 416.00 -1.51 -9.42

See also

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