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{{Infobox Interval

~~| Ratio = 25/24~~

| Name = just chromatic semitone, classic(al) chromatic semitone, diptolemaic chromatic semitone, dicot comma

~~| Monzo = -3 -1 2~~

~~| Cents = 70.67243~~

| Name = classic~~/just~~ chromatic semitone, ~~<br>chroma~~

| Color name = yy1, yoyo unison

~~| FJS name = A1<sup>25</sup>~~

| Sound = jid_25_24_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3

| Comma = yes

}}

'''25/24''', the '''just chromatic semitone''', '''classic(al) chromatic semitone''' or '''diptolemaic chromatic semitone''', 70.672{{cent}}, is the [[superparticular]] ratio which marks the difference between the [[5-limit]] seconds, [[16/15]] and [[10/9]], thirds, [[6/5]] and [[5/4]], sixths, [[8/5]] and [[5/3]], and sevenths, [[9/5]] and [[15/8]]. It is therefore the amount which sharpens or flattens a 5-limit second, third, sixth, or seventh, and when notating 5-limit just intonation it can be associated with the sharp or flat symbol, and along with an additional symbol for the [[81/80]] comma, it can be used for a complete system of [[5-limit]] notation as an extension of diatonic.

'''25/24''', the '''~~classic~~''' or '''~~just~~ chromatic semitone''' ~~(short:~~ '''~~chroma~~'''), 70.672{{cent}}, is the [[superparticular]] ratio which marks the difference between the [[5-limit]] seconds, [[16/15]] and [[10/9~~]], [[27/25]] and [[9/8~~]], thirds, [[6/5]] and [[5/4]], sixths, [[8/5]] and [[5/3]], and sevenths, ~~[[16/9]] and [[50/27]], and~~ [[9/5]] and [[15/8]] . It is therefore the amount which sharpens or flattens a 5-limit second, third, sixth, or seventh, and when notating 5-limit just intonation it can be associated with the sharp or flat symbol, and along with an additional symbol for the [[81/80]] comma, it can be used for a complete system of [[5-limit]] notation.

== Approximation ==

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== Temperaments ==

If 25/24 is treated as a comma to be tempered out, ~~you remove~~ the distinction between major and minor thirds and ~~get~~ only a single neutral interval ~~in their place~~ as in [[~~dicot family~~]], ~~and edos like~~ [[10edo]] or 17edo.

If 25/24 is treated as a comma to be tempered out, it may be called the '''dicot comma'''. Doing so leads to the [[dicot]] temperament, where the distinction between 5-limit major and minor thirds are removed and there is only a single neutral interval functioning as both, as in [[7edo]], [[10edo]], and [[17edo]]. See [[dicot family]] for the rank-2 family where it is tempered out.

==See also==

== See also ==

* [[36/25]] – its [[fifth complement]]

* [[48/25]] – its [[octave complement]]

* [[~~Dicot family~~]]~~, where it is tempered out~~

* [[Sqrt(25/24)]] – its exact half

* [[Gallery of just intervals]]

* [[Medium comma]]

* [[List of superparticular intervals]]

* [[~~Chroma~~]] – a generalising concept for [[~~MOS~~]] ~~scales~~

* [[Chromatic semitone]] – a generalising concept for the [[5L 2s|diatonic]] scale

* [[~~2187/2048~~]] – ~~the Pythagorean chromatic semitone~~

* [[Chroma]] – a generalising concept for all [[mos]] scales

~~[[Category:5-limit]]~~

[[Category:Chroma]]

[[Category:Semitone]]

[[Category:Third tone]]

[[Category:~~Superparticular~~]]

[[Category:Dicot]]

[[Category:Commas named for how they divide the fifth]]

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 {{Infobox Interval
-| Ratio = 25/24
+| Name = just chromatic semitone, classic(al) chromatic semitone, diptolemaic chromatic semitone, dicot comma
-| Monzo = -3 -1 2
-| Cents = 70.67243
-| Name = classic/just chromatic semitone, <br>chroma
 | Color name = yy1, yoyo unison
-| FJS name = A1<sup>25</sup>
 | Sound = jid_25_24_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
+| Comma = yes
 }}
+'''25/24''', the '''just chromatic semitone''', '''classic(al) chromatic semitone''' or '''diptolemaic chromatic semitone''', 70.672{{cent}}, is the [[superparticular]] ratio which marks the difference between the [[5-limit]] seconds, [[16/15]] and [[10/9]], thirds, [[6/5]] and [[5/4]], sixths, [[8/5]] and [[5/3]], and sevenths, [[9/5]] and [[15/8]]. It is therefore the amount which sharpens or flattens a 5-limit second, third, sixth, or seventh, and when notating 5-limit just intonation it can be associated with the sharp or flat symbol, and along with an additional symbol for the [[81/80]] comma, it can be used for a complete system of [[5-limit]] notation as an extension of diatonic.
-'''25/24''', the '''classic''' or '''just chromatic semitone''' (short: '''chroma'''), 70.672{{cent}}, is the [[superparticular]] ratio which marks the difference between the [[5-limit]] seconds, [[16/15]] and [[10/9]], [[27/25]] and [[9/8]], thirds, [[6/5]] and [[5/4]], sixths, [[8/5]] and [[5/3]], and sevenths, [[16/9]] and [[50/27]], and [[9/5]] and [[15/8]] . It is therefore the amount which sharpens or flattens a 5-limit second, third, sixth, or seventh, and when notating 5-limit just intonation it can be associated with the sharp or flat symbol, and along with an additional symbol for the [[81/80]] comma, it can be used for a complete system of [[5-limit]] notation.
 == Approximation ==
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 == Temperaments ==
-If 25/24 is treated as a comma to be tempered out, you remove the distinction between major and minor thirds and get only a single neutral interval in their place as in [[dicot family]], and edos like [[10edo]] or 17edo.
+If 25/24 is treated as a comma to be tempered out, it may be called the '''dicot comma'''. Doing so leads to the [[dicot]] temperament, where the distinction between 5-limit major and minor thirds are removed and there is only a single neutral interval functioning as both, as in [[7edo]], [[10edo]], and [[17edo]]. See [[dicot family]] for the rank-2 family where it is tempered out.
-==See also==
+== See also ==
 * [[36/25]] – its [[fifth complement]]
 * [[48/25]] – its [[octave complement]]
-* [[Dicot family]], where it is tempered out
+* [[Sqrt(25/24)]] – its exact half
 * [[Gallery of just intervals]]
 * [[Medium comma]]
 * [[List of superparticular intervals]]
-* [[Chroma]] – a generalising concept for [[MOS]] scales
+* [[Chromatic semitone]] – a generalising concept for the [[5L 2s|diatonic]] scale
-* [[2187/2048]] – the Pythagorean chromatic semitone
+* [[Chroma]] – a generalising concept for all [[mos]] scales
-[[Category:5-limit]]
 [[Category:Chroma]]
 [[Category:Semitone]]
 [[Category:Third tone]]
-[[Category:Superparticular]]
+[[Category:Dicot]]
+[[Category:Commas named for how they divide the fifth]]