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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
89edo has a harmonic 3 less than a cent flat and a harmonic 5 less than five cents sharp, with a 7 two cents sharp and an 11 1.5 cents sharp. It thus delivers reasonably good 11-limit harmony and very good no-fives harmony along with the very useful approximations represented by its commas | 89edo has a [[3/1|harmonic 3]] less than a cent flat and a [[5/1|harmonic 5]] less than five cents sharp, with a [[7/1|7]] two cents sharp and an [[11/1|11]] 1.5 cents sharp. It thus delivers reasonably good 11-limit harmony and very good no-fives harmony along with the very useful approximations represented by its commas. | ||
It [[tempering out|tempers out]] 32805/32768 ([[schisma]]) in the 5-limit; [[126/125]], [[1728/1715]], and [[2401/2400]] in the 7-limit; and [[176/175]], [[243/242]], [[441/440]] and [[540/539]] in the 11-limit. It is an especially good tuning for the [[myna]] temperament, both in the [[7-limit]], tempering out 126/125 and 1728/1715, and in the [[11-limit]], where 176/175 is tempered out also. It is likewise a good tuning for the rank-3 temperament [[thrush]], tempering out 126/125 and 176/175. | |||
The [[13-limit]] is a little tricky as [[13/1|13]] is tuned distinctly flat, tempering out [[169/168]], [[364/363]], [[729/728]], [[832/825]], and [[1287/1280]]. [[13/10]] and [[15/13]] are particularly out of tune in this system, each being about 9 cents off. The alternative 89f val fixes that but tunes [[13/8]] much sharper, conflating it with [[18/11]]. It tempers out [[144/143]], [[196/195]], [[351/350]], and [[352/351]] instead, and [[support]]s 13-limit myna and thrush. However, [[58edo]] is a better tuning for those purposes. | |||
Harmonic [[17/1|17]] is tuned fairly well, and harmonic [[19/1|19]] is tuned very well, making it [[consistent]] to the no-13 [[21-odd-limit]]. The equal temperament tempers out [[256/255]] and [[561/560]] in the 17-limit; and [[171/170]], [[361/360]], [[513/512]] (Boethius' comma), and [[1216/1215]] in the 19-limit. Not only this, but the small tuning error in harmonic 19 is almost the same as the small error in harmonic 3, the error being extremely close to one quarter of Boethius' comma flat (and since the comma is small to begin with, that is also not very far from one third of this comma flat), enabling the use of the extremely accurate Boethius' major third ~[[24/19]] as a substitute for the less accurate classic major third ~[[5/4]], and the still very accurate Boethius' minor third ~[[19/16]] to substitute for the less accurate classic minor third ~[[6/5]], thereby obtaining [[meantone]] ease of use with a near-just (slightly flat) harmonic 3, as demonstrated in some of the music below (see [[#Music]]). Thus, 89edo is audibly indistinguishable from quarter-comma [[boethian]] temperament. | |||
89edo is the 11th in the {{w|Fibonacci sequence}}, which means its 55th step approximates logarithmic φ (i.e. 1200{{nowrap|(φ − 1)}}{{c}} within a fraction of a cent. | |||
=== Prime harmonics === | === Prime harmonics === | ||
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=== Subsets and supersets === | === Subsets and supersets === | ||
89edo is the 24th [[prime edo]], and | 89edo is the 24th [[prime edo]], following [[83edo]] and before [[97edo]]. | ||
== Intervals == | |||
{{Interval table}} | |||
== Notation == | |||
=== Ups and downs notation === | |||
89edo can be notated with [[Kite's ups and downs notation]]: | |||
{{Ups and downs sharpness}} | |||
Alternatively, ups and downs with [[Helmholtz–Ellis]] accidentals can be used: | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp8}} | |||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
{| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6" | {| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6" | ||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | [[Subgroup]] | ! rowspan="2" | [[Subgroup]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list | ! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]] | ! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve | ! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve stretch (¢) | ||
! colspan="2" | Tuning | ! colspan="2" | Tuning error | ||
|- | |- | ||
! [[TE error|Absolute]] (¢) | ! [[TE error|Absolute]] (¢) | ||
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| 2.3 | | 2.3 | ||
| {{monzo| -141 89 }} | | {{monzo| -141 89 }} | ||
| | | {{mapping| 89 141 }} | ||
| +0.262 | | +0.262 | ||
| 0.262 | | 0.262 | ||
| Line 33: | Line 51: | ||
| 2.3.5 | | 2.3.5 | ||
| 32805/32768, 10077696/9765625 | | 32805/32768, 10077696/9765625 | ||
| | | {{mapping| 89 141 207 }} | ||
| | | −0.500 | ||
| 1.098 | | 1.098 | ||
| 8.15 | | 8.15 | ||
| Line 40: | Line 58: | ||
| 2.3.5.7 | | 2.3.5.7 | ||
| 126/125, 1728/1715, 32805/32768 | | 126/125, 1728/1715, 32805/32768 | ||
| | | {{mapping| 89 141 207 250 }} | ||
| | | −0.550 | ||
| 0.955 | | 0.955 | ||
| 7.08 | | 7.08 | ||
| Line 47: | Line 65: | ||
| 2.3.5.7.11 | | 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
| 126/125, 176/175, 243/242, 16384/16335 | | 126/125, 176/175, 243/242, 16384/16335 | ||
| | | {{mapping| 89 141 207 250 308 }} | ||
| | | −0.526 | ||
| 0.855 | | 0.855 | ||
| 6.35 | | 6.35 | ||
|} | |} | ||
=== Rank-2 temperaments === | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all left-5" | |||
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator | |||
|- | |||
! Periods<br />per 8ve | |||
! Generator* | |||
! Cents* | |||
! Associated<br />ratio* | |||
! Temperaments | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 13\89 | |||
| 175.28 | |||
| 72/65 | |||
| [[Sesquiquartififths]] / [[sesquart]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 21\89 | |||
| 283.15 | |||
| 13/11 | |||
| [[Neominor]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 23\89 | |||
| 310.11 | |||
| 6/5 | |||
| [[Myna]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 29\89 | |||
| 391.01 | |||
| 5/4 | |||
| [[Amigo]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 37\89 | |||
| 498.87 | |||
| 4/3 | |||
| [[Grackle]] | |||
|} | |||
<nowiki/>* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct | |||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
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* [[Myna11]] | * [[Myna11]] | ||
* [[Myna15]] | * [[Myna15]] | ||
== Instruments == | |||
; Lumatone | |||
''See [[Lumatone mapping for 89edo]].'' | |||
== Music == | == Music == | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Du9RfDUqCs Singing Golden Myna] | ; [[Bryan Deister]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JNIeqvXKlM ''microtonal improvisation in 89edo''] (2025) (demonstrates a highly xenharmonic take on 89edo) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mU4KcJd6E7U ''89edo improv''] (2026) (demonstrates 89edo as quarter-comma boethian temperament) | |||
; [[Francium]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Du9RfDUqCs ''Singing Golden Myna''] (2022) – Myna[11] in 89edo | |||
[[Category:Listen]] | |||
[[Category:Myna]] | [[Category:Myna]] | ||
[[Category:Thrush]] | [[Category:Thrush]] | ||
Latest revision as of 08:35, 18 April 2026
| ← 88edo | 89edo | 90edo → |
89 equal divisions of the octave (abbreviated 89edo or 89ed2), also called 89-tone equal temperament (89tet) or 89 equal temperament (89et) when viewed under a regular temperament perspective, is the tuning system that divides the octave into 89 equal parts of about 13.5 ¢ each. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 21/89, or the 89th root of 2.
Theory
89edo has a harmonic 3 less than a cent flat and a harmonic 5 less than five cents sharp, with a 7 two cents sharp and an 11 1.5 cents sharp. It thus delivers reasonably good 11-limit harmony and very good no-fives harmony along with the very useful approximations represented by its commas.
It tempers out 32805/32768 (schisma) in the 5-limit; 126/125, 1728/1715, and 2401/2400 in the 7-limit; and 176/175, 243/242, 441/440 and 540/539 in the 11-limit. It is an especially good tuning for the myna temperament, both in the 7-limit, tempering out 126/125 and 1728/1715, and in the 11-limit, where 176/175 is tempered out also. It is likewise a good tuning for the rank-3 temperament thrush, tempering out 126/125 and 176/175.
The 13-limit is a little tricky as 13 is tuned distinctly flat, tempering out 169/168, 364/363, 729/728, 832/825, and 1287/1280. 13/10 and 15/13 are particularly out of tune in this system, each being about 9 cents off. The alternative 89f val fixes that but tunes 13/8 much sharper, conflating it with 18/11. It tempers out 144/143, 196/195, 351/350, and 352/351 instead, and supports 13-limit myna and thrush. However, 58edo is a better tuning for those purposes.
Harmonic 17 is tuned fairly well, and harmonic 19 is tuned very well, making it consistent to the no-13 21-odd-limit. The equal temperament tempers out 256/255 and 561/560 in the 17-limit; and 171/170, 361/360, 513/512 (Boethius' comma), and 1216/1215 in the 19-limit. Not only this, but the small tuning error in harmonic 19 is almost the same as the small error in harmonic 3, the error being extremely close to one quarter of Boethius' comma flat (and since the comma is small to begin with, that is also not very far from one third of this comma flat), enabling the use of the extremely accurate Boethius' major third ~24/19 as a substitute for the less accurate classic major third ~5/4, and the still very accurate Boethius' minor third ~19/16 to substitute for the less accurate classic minor third ~6/5, thereby obtaining meantone ease of use with a near-just (slightly flat) harmonic 3, as demonstrated in some of the music below (see #Music). Thus, 89edo is audibly indistinguishable from quarter-comma boethian temperament.
89edo is the 11th in the Fibonacci sequence, which means its 55th step approximates logarithmic φ (i.e. 1200(φ − 1) ¢ within a fraction of a cent.
Prime harmonics
| Harmonic | 2 | 3 | 5 | 7 | 11 | 13 | 17 | 19 | 23 | 29 | 31 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Error | Absolute (¢) | +0.00 | -0.83 | +4.70 | +1.96 | +1.49 | -4.57 | +2.91 | -0.88 | +5.43 | -4.86 | +1.03 |
| Relative (%) | +0.0 | -6.2 | +34.8 | +14.5 | +11.1 | -33.9 | +21.6 | -6.6 | +40.3 | -36.0 | +7.7 | |
| Steps (reduced) |
89 (0) |
141 (52) |
207 (29) |
250 (72) |
308 (41) |
329 (62) |
364 (8) |
378 (22) |
403 (47) |
432 (76) |
441 (85) | |
Subsets and supersets
89edo is the 24th prime edo, following 83edo and before 97edo.
Intervals
| Steps | Cents | Approximate ratios | Ups and downs notation |
|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0 | 1/1 | D |
| 1 | 13.5 | ^D, ^^E♭♭ | |
| 2 | 27 | ^^D, ^3E♭♭ | |
| 3 | 40.4 | 41/40, 42/41 | ^3D, v4E♭ |
| 4 | 53.9 | 31/30, 32/31, 33/32, 34/33 | ^4D, v3E♭ |
| 5 | 67.4 | 27/26 | v3D♯, vvE♭ |
| 6 | 80.9 | 22/21 | vvD♯, vE♭ |
| 7 | 94.4 | 19/18, 37/35 | vD♯, E♭ |
| 8 | 107.9 | 33/31 | D♯, ^E♭ |
| 9 | 121.3 | 15/14, 29/27 | ^D♯, ^^E♭ |
| 10 | 134.8 | 40/37 | ^^D♯, ^3E♭ |
| 11 | 148.3 | 12/11, 37/34 | ^3D♯, v4E |
| 12 | 161.8 | 34/31 | ^4D♯, v3E |
| 13 | 175.3 | 21/19, 31/28, 41/37 | v3D𝄪, vvE |
| 14 | 188.8 | 29/26 | vvD𝄪, vE |
| 15 | 202.2 | 9/8 | E |
| 16 | 215.7 | 17/15 | ^E, ^^F♭ |
| 17 | 229.2 | 8/7 | ^^E, ^3F♭ |
| 18 | 242.7 | 23/20, 38/33 | ^3E, v4F |
| 19 | 256.2 | 22/19, 36/31 | ^4E, v3F |
| 20 | 269.7 | 7/6 | v3E♯, vvF |
| 21 | 283.1 | 20/17, 33/28 | vvE♯, vF |
| 22 | 296.6 | 19/16, 32/27 | F |
| 23 | 310.1 | ^F, ^^G♭♭ | |
| 24 | 323.6 | 41/34 | ^^F, ^3G♭♭ |
| 25 | 337.1 | 17/14 | ^3F, v4G♭ |
| 26 | 350.6 | 38/31 | ^4F, v3G♭ |
| 27 | 364 | 21/17, 37/30 | v3F♯, vvG♭ |
| 28 | 377.5 | 41/33 | vvF♯, vG♭ |
| 29 | 391 | vF♯, G♭ | |
| 30 | 404.5 | 24/19 | F♯, ^G♭ |
| 31 | 418 | 14/11 | ^F♯, ^^G♭ |
| 32 | 431.5 | 41/32 | ^^F♯, ^3G♭ |
| 33 | 444.9 | 22/17, 31/24 | ^3F♯, v4G |
| 34 | 458.4 | 30/23 | ^4F♯, v3G |
| 35 | 471.9 | 21/16 | v3F𝄪, vvG |
| 36 | 485.4 | 41/31 | vvF𝄪, vG |
| 37 | 498.9 | 4/3 | G |
| 38 | 512.4 | 39/29 | ^G, ^^A♭♭ |
| 39 | 525.8 | 23/17, 42/31 | ^^G, ^3A♭♭ |
| 40 | 539.3 | 15/11, 41/30 | ^3G, v4A♭ |
| 41 | 552.8 | 11/8 | ^4G, v3A♭ |
| 42 | 566.3 | v3G♯, vvA♭ | |
| 43 | 579.8 | 7/5 | vvG♯, vA♭ |
| 44 | 593.3 | 31/22, 38/27 | vG♯, A♭ |
| 45 | 606.7 | 27/19 | G♯, ^A♭ |
| 46 | 620.2 | 10/7 | ^G♯, ^^A♭ |
| 47 | 633.7 | ^^G♯, ^3A♭ | |
| 48 | 647.2 | 16/11 | ^3G♯, v4A |
| 49 | 660.7 | 22/15, 41/28 | ^4G♯, v3A |
| 50 | 674.2 | 31/21, 34/23 | v3G𝄪, vvA |
| 51 | 687.6 | vvG𝄪, vA | |
| 52 | 701.1 | 3/2 | A |
| 53 | 714.6 | ^A, ^^B♭♭ | |
| 54 | 728.1 | 32/21, 35/23 | ^^A, ^3B♭♭ |
| 55 | 741.6 | 23/15 | ^3A, v4B♭ |
| 56 | 755.1 | 17/11 | ^4A, v3B♭ |
| 57 | 768.5 | v3A♯, vvB♭ | |
| 58 | 782 | 11/7 | vvA♯, vB♭ |
| 59 | 795.5 | 19/12 | vA♯, B♭ |
| 60 | 809 | A♯, ^B♭ | |
| 61 | 822.5 | 37/23 | ^A♯, ^^B♭ |
| 62 | 836 | 34/21 | ^^A♯, ^3B♭ |
| 63 | 849.4 | 31/19 | ^3A♯, v4B |
| 64 | 862.9 | 28/17 | ^4A♯, v3B |
| 65 | 876.4 | v3A𝄪, vvB | |
| 66 | 889.9 | vvA𝄪, vB | |
| 67 | 903.4 | 27/16, 32/19 | B |
| 68 | 916.9 | 17/10 | ^B, ^^C♭ |
| 69 | 930.3 | 12/7 | ^^B, ^3C♭ |
| 70 | 943.8 | 19/11, 31/18 | ^3B, v4C |
| 71 | 957.3 | 33/19, 40/23 | ^4B, v3C |
| 72 | 970.8 | 7/4 | v3B♯, vvC |
| 73 | 984.3 | 30/17 | vvB♯, vC |
| 74 | 997.8 | 16/9 | C |
| 75 | 1011.2 | ^C, ^^D♭♭ | |
| 76 | 1024.7 | 38/21 | ^^C, ^3D♭♭ |
| 77 | 1038.2 | 31/17 | ^3C, v4D♭ |
| 78 | 1051.7 | 11/6 | ^4C, v3D♭ |
| 79 | 1065.2 | 37/20 | v3C♯, vvD♭ |
| 80 | 1078.7 | 28/15, 41/22 | vvC♯, vD♭ |
| 81 | 1092.1 | vC♯, D♭ | |
| 82 | 1105.6 | 36/19 | C♯, ^D♭ |
| 83 | 1119.1 | 21/11 | ^C♯, ^^D♭ |
| 84 | 1132.6 | ^^C♯, ^3D♭ | |
| 85 | 1146.1 | 31/16, 33/17 | ^3C♯, v4D |
| 86 | 1159.6 | 41/21 | ^4C♯, v3D |
| 87 | 1173 | v3C𝄪, vvD | |
| 88 | 1186.5 | vvC𝄪, vD | |
| 89 | 1200 | 2/1 | D |
Notation
Ups and downs notation
89edo can be notated with Kite's ups and downs notation:
Alternatively, ups and downs with Helmholtz–Ellis accidentals can be used:
| Step offset | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sharp symbol | |
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| Flat symbol |
Regular temperament properties
| Subgroup | Comma list | Mapping | Optimal 8ve stretch (¢) |
Tuning error | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Absolute (¢) | Relative (%) | ||||
| 2.3 | [-141 89⟩ | [⟨89 141]] | +0.262 | 0.262 | 1.95 |
| 2.3.5 | 32805/32768, 10077696/9765625 | [⟨89 141 207]] | −0.500 | 1.098 | 8.15 |
| 2.3.5.7 | 126/125, 1728/1715, 32805/32768 | [⟨89 141 207 250]] | −0.550 | 0.955 | 7.08 |
| 2.3.5.7.11 | 126/125, 176/175, 243/242, 16384/16335 | [⟨89 141 207 250 308]] | −0.526 | 0.855 | 6.35 |
Rank-2 temperaments
| Periods per 8ve |
Generator* | Cents* | Associated ratio* |
Temperaments |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 13\89 | 175.28 | 72/65 | Sesquiquartififths / sesquart |
| 1 | 21\89 | 283.15 | 13/11 | Neominor |
| 1 | 23\89 | 310.11 | 6/5 | Myna |
| 1 | 29\89 | 391.01 | 5/4 | Amigo |
| 1 | 37\89 | 498.87 | 4/3 | Grackle |
* Octave-reduced form, reduced to the first half-octave, and minimal form in parentheses if distinct
Scales
Instruments
- Lumatone
See Lumatone mapping for 89edo.
Music
- microtonal improvisation in 89edo (2025) (demonstrates a highly xenharmonic take on 89edo)
- 89edo improv (2026) (demonstrates 89edo as quarter-comma boethian temperament)
- Singing Golden Myna (2022) – Myna[11] in 89edo





































