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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
49edo is very much on the sharp side of things, with sharp tunings of [[harmonic]]s [[3/1|3]], [[5/1|5]], [[7/1|7]], and [[11/1|11]]. It is the [[optimal patent val]] for [[superpyth]] temperament in the 7- and 11-limit, [[Archytas family #Archytas|archytas]] ([[7-limit]]) and [[Archytas family #Ares|ares]] ([[11-limit]]) planar temperaments, being almost exactly equal to {{frac|3|10}}-comma superpyth | 49edo is very much on the sharp side of things, with sharp tunings of [[harmonic]]s [[3/1|3]], [[5/1|5]], [[7/1|7]], and [[11/1|11]]. It is the [[optimal patent val]] for [[superpyth]] temperament in the 7- and 11-limit, [[Archytas family #Archytas|archytas]] ([[7-limit]]), and [[Archytas family #Ares|ares]] ([[11-limit]]) planar temperaments, being almost exactly equal to {{frac|3|10}}-comma superpyth. It [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[64/63]], [[245/243]], and [[3125/3087]] in the 7-limit, and [[100/99]], [[540/539]], and [[1375/1372]] in the 11-limit. In the 13-limit, its [[patent val]] {{val| 49 78 114 138 170 181 }}, has a rather flat (by relative error) harmonic [[13/1|13]], which leads to inconsistent mappings; but using the 49f val {{val| 49 78 114 138 170 182 }} improves 13-limit consistency, and in this val it tempers out [[364/363]] and [[847/845]]. | ||
=== Harmonics === | === Harmonics === | ||
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=== Subsets and supersets === | === Subsets and supersets === | ||
Since 49 factors into | Since 49 factors into primes as 7<sup>2</sup>, 49edo contains [[7edo]] as its only nontrivial subset. 49edo is the first square edo with a [[enfactoring|non-enfactored]] diatonic fifth. Doubling it produces [[98edo]], a respectable (if overly complex) [[meantone]] tuning. | ||
== Intervals == | == Intervals == | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-3" | {| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-3" | ||
! # | |- | ||
! # | |||
! Cents | ! Cents | ||
! Approximate | ! Approximate ratios* | ||
! [[Ups and downs notation | ! [[Ups and downs notation]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
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| 9 | | 9 | ||
| 220.408 | | 220.408 | ||
| [[8/7]], ''[[9/8]]'' | | [[8/7]], ''[[9/8]]'', [[25/22]] | ||
| {{UDnote|step=9}} | | {{UDnote|step=9}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| 40 | | 40 | ||
| 979.592 | | 979.592 | ||
| [[7/4]], ''[[16/9]]'' | | [[7/4]], ''[[16/9]]'', [[44/25]] | ||
| {{UDnote|step=40}} | | {{UDnote|step=40}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
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== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
=== Ups and downs notation === | === Ups and downs notation === | ||
49edo can be notated using [[ups and downs notation|ups and downs]]. Trup is equivalent to quudsharp, trudsharp is equivalent to quup, etc. | |||
{{Ups and downs sharpness}} | |||
Alternatively, sharps and flats with arrows borrowed from [[Helmholtz–Ellis notation]] can be used: | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp7}} | {{Sharpness-sharp7}} | ||
===Sagittal notation=== | === Sagittal notation === | ||
====Evo flavor==== | ==== Evo flavor ==== | ||
<imagemap> | <imagemap> | ||
File:49-EDO_Evo_Sagittal.svg | File:49-EDO_Evo_Sagittal.svg | ||
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</imagemap> | </imagemap> | ||
====Revo flavor==== | ==== Revo flavor ==== | ||
<imagemap> | <imagemap> | ||
File:49-EDO_Revo_Sagittal.svg | File:49-EDO_Revo_Sagittal.svg | ||
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== Approximation to JI == | == Approximation to JI == | ||
[[File:49ed2.svg|250px|thumb|right|alt=alt : Your browser has no SVG support.|Selected 19-limit intervals approximated in 49edo]] | [[File:49ed2.svg|250px|thumb|right|alt=alt : Your browser has no SVG support.|Selected 19-limit intervals approximated in 49edo]] | ||
=== Interval mappings === | === Interval mappings === | ||
{{Q-odd-limit intervals|49}} | {{Q-odd-limit intervals|49}} | ||
{{Q-odd-limit intervals|49.1|apx=val|header=none|tag=none|title=15-odd-limit intervals by 49f val mapping}} | |||
=== Zeta peaks === | === Zeta peaks === | ||
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== Approximation to irrational intervals == | == Approximation to irrational intervals == | ||
=== Acoustic ϕ and ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup> | === Acoustic ϕ and ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>−1</sup></sup> === | ||
49edo has a very close approximation of both [[acoustic phi]] and ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>-1</sup></sup>, a kind of logarithmic phi that divides [[acoustic phi]] logarithmically by phi ([[Logarithmic phi|instead of dividing 2/1]]). | 49edo has a very close approximation of both [[acoustic phi]] and [[phith root of phi|ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>-1</sup></sup>]], a kind of logarithmic phi that divides [[acoustic phi]] logarithmically by phi ([[Logarithmic phi|instead of dividing 2/1]]). | ||
ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>-1</sup></sup> has interesting applications as [[Metallic MOS]], and in particular the fractal-like possibilities of self-similar subdivision of musical scales within [[acoustic phi]]. | The [[phith root of phi|phith root of phi (ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>-1</sup></sup>)]] has interesting applications as [[Metallic MOS]], and in particular the fractal-like possibilities of self-similar subdivision of musical scales within [[acoustic phi]]. | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
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! #\49 | ! #\49 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| ϕ / ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup> | | {{nowrap|ϕ / ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>−1</sup></sup> {{=}} ϕ<sup>(2 − ϕ)</sup>}} | ||
| 0.155 | | 0.155 | ||
| 13 | | 13 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| ϕ | | ϕ | ||
| | | −0.437 | ||
| 34 | | 34 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup> | | ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>−1</sup></sup> | ||
| | | −0.592 | ||
| 21 | | 21 | ||
|} | |} | ||
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=== Music === | === Music === | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZyAm-D3nlk&ab_channel=Sevish Sevish - Star Nursery] uses a scale based on [[acoustic phi]] and ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup> | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZyAm-D3nlk&ab_channel=Sevish Sevish - Star Nursery] uses a scale based on [[acoustic phi]] and ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>−1</sup></sup>. 49edo provides a suitable approximation for this scale with the mode: 5 3 5 5 3 5 3 5 | ||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
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| {{monzo| 78 -49 }} | | {{monzo| 78 -49 }} | ||
| {{mapping| 49 78 }} | | {{mapping| 49 78 }} | ||
| | | −2.60 | ||
| 2.60 | | 2.60 | ||
| 10.62 | | 10.62 | ||
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| 15625/15552, 20480/19683 | | 15625/15552, 20480/19683 | ||
| {{mapping| 49 78 114 }} | | {{mapping| 49 78 114 }} | ||
| | | −2.53 | ||
| 2.12 | | 2.12 | ||
| 8.69 | | 8.69 | ||
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| 64/63, 245/243, 3125/3087 | | 64/63, 245/243, 3125/3087 | ||
| {{mapping| 49 78 114 138 }} | | {{mapping| 49 78 114 138 }} | ||
| | | −2.85 | ||
| 1.92 | | 1.92 | ||
| 7.87 | | 7.87 | ||
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| 64/63, 100/99, 245/243, 1331/1323 | | 64/63, 100/99, 245/243, 1331/1323 | ||
| {{mapping| 49 78 114 138 170 }} | | {{mapping| 49 78 114 138 170 }} | ||
| | | −2.97 | ||
| 1.74 | | 1.74 | ||
| 7.11 | | 7.11 | ||
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[Seville]] (49c) | | style="text-align: left;" | [[Seville]] (49c) | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki/>* [[Normal | <nowiki />* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct | ||
== Octave stretch or compression == | |||
49edo's [[prime]]s 3, 5, 7 and 11 are all tuned sharp, so 49edo can benefit from [[octave shrinking]]. Some compressed-octave tunings of 49edo include (least to most compression): [[ed12|176ed12]], [[ed5|114ed5]], [[zpi|233zpi]], [[ed6|127ed6]], [[ed7|138ed7]] and [[78edt]]. | |||
=== Nonoctave temperament === | |||
The TE-optimized [[Triple BP|triple Bohlen–Pierce scale]] is obtained by taking every second degree of 49edo with the octave compressed by 3.861 cents to 1196.139 cents. It realizes the Tenney–Euclidean regular temperament on the 3.5.7.11.13 subgroup mapped as [⟨78 114 138 170 182]]. Under this compression, the primes map to the 49fgh val in the 23-limit. | |||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
=== MOS scales === | === MOS scales === | ||
{{main|List of MOS scales in 49edo}} | {{main|List of MOS scales in 49edo}} | ||
* Bohpier[8]: 6 6 6 6 7 6 6 6 | |||
* Catalan[7]: 3 10 3 10 3 10 10 (vaugely diminished-like) | |||
* Catalan[11]: 3 7 3 3 7 3 3 7 3 3 7 | |||
* Catalan[19]: 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 | |||
* Clyde[5]: 5 13 5 13 13 (mysterious, adventurous) | |||
* Didacus[6]: 8 8 8 8 8 9 (like the whole tone scale) | |||
* Didacus[13]: 1 7 1 7 1 7 1 7 1 7 1 7 1 | |||
* Infraorwell[5]: 11 11 5 11 11 | |||
* Infraorwell[22]: 1 4 1 4 1 1 4 1 4 1 1 4 1 4 1 4 1 1 4 1 4 1 | |||
* Kleiboh[5]: 12 12 12 12 1 | |||
* Kleiboh[13]: 1 10 1 1 10 1 1 1 10 1 1 10 1 | |||
* Magus[7]: 1 15 1 15 1 15 1 (vaguely augmented-like) | |||
* Passion[12]: 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 4 4 4 4 4 (like [[12edo]]) | |||
* Passion[23]: 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 | |||
* Sevond[21]/Seville[21]: 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 | |||
* Superpyth[5]: 11 9 9 11 9 (in between minor pentatonic and [[equipentatonic]]) | |||
* Superpyth[7]: 9 2 9 9 9 2 9 (Dorian mode; rotate for other modes) | |||
* Superpyth[12]: 2 7 2 7 2 2 7 2 7 2 7 2 (same melodic shape as [[12edo]] but much more [[xenharmonic]] harmonies) | |||
* Superpyth[27]: 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 | |||
=== Other scales === | |||
* [[6ed7/3#6ed7/3+7edo scale|The 6ed7/3+7edo scale]] ''(non-octave-repeating)'' | |||
== Instruments == | == Instruments == | ||
; | === Lumatone === | ||
* [[Lumatone mapping for 49edo]] | |||
=== Skip fretting === | |||
'''Skip fretting system 49 3 7''' is a [[skip fretting]] system for [[49edo]]. All examples are for 5-string bass. | |||
; Harmonics | |||
1/1: string 2 open | |||
2/1: not easily accessible | |||
3/2: string 4 fret 5 and string 1 fret 12 | |||
5/4: string 3 fret 3 | |||
7/4: string 3 fret 11 | |||
11/8: string 3 fret 5 | |||
== Music == | == Music == | ||
=== Modern renderings === | |||
; {{W|The Cure}} | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHslu-ZWspk ''Boys Don't Cry''] (1979) – Lumatone cover by [[YoVariable]] (2025) | |||
=== 21st century === | |||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pK-JcIrd18 Deltarune – ''Man'' (cover)] (2023) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V8t7MyP2Nuo ''microtonal improv in 49edo''] (2024) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zb1Z6o-Uvuw ''weathergirl - FLAVOR FOLEY (microtonal cover in 49edo)''] (2025) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/73PfAAWubVs ''I'm Your Captain Now (The Ancients) - The Recovery System (microtonal cover in 49edo)''] (2026) {{todo|research|comment=Identify the original composers.}} | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/34w7euOF-Ss ''49edo improv''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_yNrDI6nS1I ''49edo riff''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BcBtD3nuEQs ''49edo groove''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VmUIxWb8NCY ''49edo prelude''] (2026) | |||
; [[Mercury Amalgam]] | ; [[Mercury Amalgam]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_kzhcMMHWM&pp=ygUFNDllZG8%3D ''Wrong Generation | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_kzhcMMHWM&pp=ygUFNDllZG8%3D ''Wrong Generation''] (2022 demo version) | ||
; [[ | ; [[Cam Taylor]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fns6688IRpg ''49-equal: 7-equal meets superpyth''] (2023) | ||
[[Category:Archytas]] | [[Category:Archytas]] | ||
Latest revision as of 10:43, 25 April 2026
| ← 48edo | 49edo | 50edo → |
49 equal divisions of the octave (abbreviated 49edo or 49ed2), also called 49-tone equal temperament (49tet) or 49 equal temperament (49et) when viewed under a regular temperament perspective, is the tuning system that divides the octave into 49 equal parts of about 24.5 ¢ each. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 21/49, or the 49th root of 2.
Theory
49edo is very much on the sharp side of things, with sharp tunings of harmonics 3, 5, 7, and 11. It is the optimal patent val for superpyth temperament in the 7- and 11-limit, archytas (7-limit), and ares (11-limit) planar temperaments, being almost exactly equal to 3⁄10-comma superpyth. It tempers out 64/63, 245/243, and 3125/3087 in the 7-limit, and 100/99, 540/539, and 1375/1372 in the 11-limit. In the 13-limit, its patent val ⟨49 78 114 138 170 181], has a rather flat (by relative error) harmonic 13, which leads to inconsistent mappings; but using the 49f val ⟨49 78 114 138 170 182] improves 13-limit consistency, and in this val it tempers out 364/363 and 847/845.
Harmonics
| Harmonic | 3 | 5 | 7 | 9 | 11 | 13 | 15 | 17 | 19 | 21 | 23 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Error | Absolute (¢) | +8.2 | +5.5 | +10.8 | -8.0 | +11.9 | -7.9 | -10.7 | -7.0 | -3.6 | -5.5 | +8.5 |
| Relative (%) | +33.7 | +22.6 | +44.0 | -32.6 | +48.8 | -32.2 | -43.8 | -28.6 | -14.8 | -22.4 | +34.5 | |
| Steps (reduced) |
78 (29) |
114 (16) |
138 (40) |
155 (8) |
170 (23) |
181 (34) |
191 (44) |
200 (4) |
208 (12) |
215 (19) |
222 (26) | |
Subsets and supersets
Since 49 factors into primes as 72, 49edo contains 7edo as its only nontrivial subset. 49edo is the first square edo with a non-enfactored diatonic fifth. Doubling it produces 98edo, a respectable (if overly complex) meantone tuning.
Intervals
| # | Cents | Approximate ratios* | Ups and downs notation |
|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0.000 | 1/1 | D |
| 1 | 24.490 | 50/49 | ^D, vE♭ |
| 2 | 48.980 | 28/27, 36/35, 49/48, 81/80 | ^^D, E♭ |
| 3 | 73.469 | 22/21, 25/24, 33/32 | ^3D, ^E♭ |
| 4 | 97.959 | 16/15, 21/20 | v3D♯, ^^E♭ |
| 5 | 122.449 | 15/14 | vvD♯, ^3E♭ |
| 6 | 146.939 | 12/11 | vD♯, v3E |
| 7 | 171.429 | 10/9, 11/10 | D♯, vvE |
| 8 | 195.918 | 28/25 | ^D♯, vE |
| 9 | 220.408 | 8/7, 9/8, 25/22 | E |
| 10 | 244.898 | 125/108, 144/125 | ^E, vF |
| 11 | 269.388 | 7/6 | F |
| 12 | 293.878 | 25/21, 33/28 | ^F, vG♭ |
| 13 | 318.367 | 6/5 | ^^F, G♭ |
| 14 | 342.857 | 11/9 | ^3F, ^G♭ |
| 15 | 367.347 | 27/22 | v3F♯, ^^G♭ |
| 16 | 391.837 | 5/4 | vvF♯, ^3G♭ |
| 17 | 416.327 | 14/11 | vF♯, v3G |
| 18 | 440.816 | 9/7 | F♯, vvG |
| 19 | 465.306 | 125/96, 162/125 | ^F♯, vG |
| 20 | 489.796 | 4/3, 21/16 | G |
| 21 | 514.286 | 75/56 | ^G, vA♭ |
| 22 | 538.776 | 15/11, 27/20 | ^^G, A♭ |
| 23 | 563.265 | 11/8 | ^3G, ^A♭ |
| 24 | 587.755 | 7/5 | v3G♯, ^^A♭ |
| 25 | 612.245 | 10/7 | vvG♯, ^3A♭ |
| 26 | 636.735 | 16/11 | vG♯, v3A |
| 27 | 661.244 | 22/15, 40/27 | G♯, vvA |
| 28 | 685.714 | 112/75 | ^G♯, vA |
| 29 | 710.204 | 3/2, 32/21 | A |
| 30 | 734.694 | 125/81, 192/125 | ^A, vB♭ |
| 31 | 759.184 | 14/9 | ^^A, B♭ |
| 32 | 783.673 | 11/7 | ^3A, ^B♭ |
| 33 | 808.163 | 8/5 | v3A♯, ^^B♭ |
| 34 | 832.653 | 44/27 | vvA♯, ^3B♭ |
| 35 | 857.143 | 18/11 | vA♯, v3B |
| 36 | 881.633 | 5/3 | A♯, vvB |
| 37 | 906.122 | 42/25, 56/33 | ^A♯, vB |
| 38 | 930.612 | 12/7 | B |
| 39 | 955.102 | 125/72, 216/125 | ^B, vC |
| 40 | 979.592 | 7/4, 16/9, 44/25 | C |
| 41 | 1004.082 | 25/14 | ^C, vD♭ |
| 42 | 1028.571 | 9/5, 20/11 | ^^C, D♭ |
| 43 | 1053.061 | 11/6 | ^3C, ^D♭ |
| 44 | 1077.551 | 28/15 | v3C♯, ^^D♭ |
| 45 | 1102.041 | 15/8, 40/21 | vvC♯, ^3D♭ |
| 46 | 1126.531 | 21/11, 48/25, 64/33 | vC♯, v3D |
| 47 | 1151.020 | 27/14, 35/18, 96/49, 160/81 | C♯, vvD |
| 48 | 1175.510 | 49/25 | ^C♯, vD |
| 49 | 1200.000 | 2/1 | D |
* Based on 49edo's 11-limit patent val ⟨49 78 114 138 170] mapping
Notation
Ups and downs notation
49edo can be notated using ups and downs. Trup is equivalent to quudsharp, trudsharp is equivalent to quup, etc.
Alternatively, sharps and flats with arrows borrowed from Helmholtz–Ellis notation can be used:
| Step offset | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sharp symbol | |
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| Flat symbol |
Sagittal notation
Evo flavor

Revo flavor

Approximation to JI

Interval mappings
The following tables show how 15-odd-limit intervals are represented in 49edo. Prime harmonics are in bold; inconsistent intervals are in italics.
| Interval and complement | Error (abs, ¢) | Error (rel, %) |
|---|---|---|
| 1/1, 2/1 | 0.000 | 0.0 |
| 13/9, 18/13 | 0.117 | 0.5 |
| 11/7, 14/11 | 1.181 | 4.8 |
| 15/11, 22/15 | 1.825 | 7.5 |
| 7/6, 12/7 | 2.517 | 10.3 |
| 5/3, 6/5 | 2.726 | 11.1 |
| 15/13, 26/15 | 2.843 | 11.6 |
| 15/14, 28/15 | 3.006 | 12.3 |
| 11/6, 12/11 | 3.698 | 15.1 |
| 11/9, 18/11 | 4.551 | 18.6 |
| 13/11, 22/13 | 4.668 | 19.1 |
| 7/5, 10/7 | 5.243 | 21.4 |
| 5/4, 8/5 | 5.523 | 22.6 |
| 9/7, 14/9 | 5.732 | 23.4 |
| 13/7, 14/13 | 5.849 | 23.9 |
| 11/10, 20/11 | 6.424 | 26.2 |
| 13/8, 16/13 | 7.875 | 32.2 |
| 9/8, 16/9 | 7.992 | 32.6 |
| 3/2, 4/3 | 8.249 | 33.7 |
| 13/12, 24/13 | 8.366 | 34.2 |
| 15/8, 16/15 | 10.718 | 43.8 |
| 7/4, 8/7 | 10.766 | 44.0 |
| 9/5, 10/9 | 10.975 | 44.8 |
| 13/10, 20/13 | 11.092 | 45.3 |
| 11/8, 16/11 | 11.947 | 48.8 |
| Interval and complement | Error (abs, ¢) | Error (rel, %) |
|---|---|---|
| 1/1, 2/1 | 0.000 | 0.0 |
| 11/7, 14/11 | 1.181 | 4.8 |
| 15/11, 22/15 | 1.825 | 7.5 |
| 7/6, 12/7 | 2.517 | 10.3 |
| 5/3, 6/5 | 2.726 | 11.1 |
| 15/14, 28/15 | 3.006 | 12.3 |
| 11/6, 12/11 | 3.698 | 15.1 |
| 11/9, 18/11 | 4.551 | 18.6 |
| 7/5, 10/7 | 5.243 | 21.4 |
| 5/4, 8/5 | 5.523 | 22.6 |
| 9/7, 14/9 | 5.732 | 23.4 |
| 11/10, 20/11 | 6.424 | 26.2 |
| 13/8, 16/13 | 7.875 | 32.2 |
| 3/2, 4/3 | 8.249 | 33.7 |
| 7/4, 8/7 | 10.766 | 44.0 |
| 9/5, 10/9 | 10.975 | 44.8 |
| 11/8, 16/11 | 11.947 | 48.8 |
| 13/10, 20/13 | 13.398 | 54.7 |
| 15/8, 16/15 | 13.772 | 56.2 |
| 13/12, 24/13 | 16.124 | 65.8 |
| 9/8, 16/9 | 16.498 | 67.4 |
| 13/7, 14/13 | 18.641 | 76.1 |
| 13/11, 22/13 | 19.822 | 80.9 |
| 15/13, 26/15 | 21.647 | 88.4 |
| 13/9, 18/13 | 24.373 | 99.5 |
| Interval and complement | Error (abs, ¢) | Error (rel, %) |
|---|---|---|
| 1/1, 2/1 | 0.000 | 0.0 |
| 13/9, 18/13 | 0.117 | 0.5 |
| 11/7, 14/11 | 1.181 | 4.8 |
| 15/11, 22/15 | 1.825 | 7.5 |
| 7/6, 12/7 | 2.517 | 10.3 |
| 5/3, 6/5 | 2.726 | 11.1 |
| 15/13, 26/15 | 2.843 | 11.6 |
| 15/14, 28/15 | 3.006 | 12.3 |
| 11/6, 12/11 | 3.698 | 15.1 |
| 11/9, 18/11 | 4.551 | 18.6 |
| 13/11, 22/13 | 4.668 | 19.1 |
| 7/5, 10/7 | 5.243 | 21.4 |
| 5/4, 8/5 | 5.523 | 22.6 |
| 9/7, 14/9 | 5.732 | 23.4 |
| 13/7, 14/13 | 5.849 | 23.9 |
| 11/10, 20/11 | 6.424 | 26.2 |
| 3/2, 4/3 | 8.249 | 33.7 |
| 13/12, 24/13 | 8.366 | 34.2 |
| 7/4, 8/7 | 10.766 | 44.0 |
| 9/5, 10/9 | 10.975 | 44.8 |
| 13/10, 20/13 | 11.092 | 45.3 |
| 11/8, 16/11 | 11.947 | 48.8 |
| 15/8, 16/15 | 13.772 | 56.2 |
| 9/8, 16/9 | 16.498 | 67.4 |
| 13/8, 16/13 | 16.615 | 67.8 |
Zeta peaks
The strongest local zeta peak around 49edo is its second closest, 49.141 edo. One step is 24.419 cents, and two steps, 48.839 cents, is a good generator for Triple BP.
Approximation to irrational intervals
Acoustic ϕ and ϕϕ−1
49edo has a very close approximation of both acoustic phi and ϕϕ-1, a kind of logarithmic phi that divides acoustic phi logarithmically by phi (instead of dividing 2/1).
The phith root of phi (ϕϕ-1) has interesting applications as Metallic MOS, and in particular the fractal-like possibilities of self-similar subdivision of musical scales within acoustic phi.
| Interval | Error (abs, ¢) | #\49 |
|---|---|---|
| ϕ / ϕϕ−1 = ϕ(2 − ϕ) | 0.155 | 13 |
| ϕ | −0.437 | 34 |
| ϕϕ−1 | −0.592 | 21 |
Not until 592 do we find a better edo in terms of relative error on these two intervals (but whose edo-steps upon which these intervals are mapped are not based on the Fibonacci sequence, unlike 49edo).
Music
- Sevish - Star Nursery uses a scale based on acoustic phi and ϕϕ−1. 49edo provides a suitable approximation for this scale with the mode: 5 3 5 5 3 5 3 5
Regular temperament properties
| Subgroup | Comma list | Mapping | Optimal 8ve stretch (¢) |
Tuning error | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Absolute (¢) | Relative (%) | ||||
| 2.3 | [78 -49⟩ | [⟨49 78]] | −2.60 | 2.60 | 10.62 |
| 2.3.5 | 15625/15552, 20480/19683 | [⟨49 78 114]] | −2.53 | 2.12 | 8.69 |
| 2.3.5.7 | 64/63, 245/243, 3125/3087 | [⟨49 78 114 138]] | −2.85 | 1.92 | 7.87 |
| 2.3.5.7.11 | 64/63, 100/99, 245/243, 1331/1323 | [⟨49 78 114 138 170]] | −2.97 | 1.74 | 7.11 |
Rank-2 temperaments
| Periods per 8ve |
Generator* | Cents* | Associated ratio* |
Temperament |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1\49 | 24.5 | 99/98 | Sengagen |
| 1 | 4\49 | 98.0 | 16/15 | Passion |
| 1 | 6\49 | 146.9 | 12/11 | Bohpier |
| 1 | 8\49 | 195.9 | 28/25 | Didacus |
| 1 | 11\49 | 269.4 | 7/6 | Infraorwell |
| 1 | 12\49 | 293.9 | 25/21 | Kleiboh |
| 1 | 13\49 | 318.4 | 6/5 | Catalan |
| 1 | 16\49 | 391.8 | 5/4 | Magus |
| 1 | 17\49 | 416.3 | 14/11 | Sqrtphi |
| 1 | 18\49 | 440.8 | 9/7 | Clyde |
| 1 | 19\49 | 465.3 | 55/36 | Semisept |
| 1 | 20\49 | 489.8 | 4/3 | Superpyth |
| 7 | 20\49 (1\49) |
489.8 (24.5) |
4/3 (250/243) |
Sevond (49) |
| 4/3 (25/24) |
Seville (49c) |
* Octave-reduced form, reduced to the first half-octave, and minimal form in parentheses if distinct
Octave stretch or compression
49edo's primes 3, 5, 7 and 11 are all tuned sharp, so 49edo can benefit from octave shrinking. Some compressed-octave tunings of 49edo include (least to most compression): 176ed12, 114ed5, 233zpi, 127ed6, 138ed7 and 78edt.
Nonoctave temperament
The TE-optimized triple Bohlen–Pierce scale is obtained by taking every second degree of 49edo with the octave compressed by 3.861 cents to 1196.139 cents. It realizes the Tenney–Euclidean regular temperament on the 3.5.7.11.13 subgroup mapped as [⟨78 114 138 170 182]]. Under this compression, the primes map to the 49fgh val in the 23-limit.
Scales
MOS scales
- Bohpier[8]: 6 6 6 6 7 6 6 6
- Catalan[7]: 3 10 3 10 3 10 10 (vaugely diminished-like)
- Catalan[11]: 3 7 3 3 7 3 3 7 3 3 7
- Catalan[19]: 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 1 3 3
- Clyde[5]: 5 13 5 13 13 (mysterious, adventurous)
- Didacus[6]: 8 8 8 8 8 9 (like the whole tone scale)
- Didacus[13]: 1 7 1 7 1 7 1 7 1 7 1 7 1
- Infraorwell[5]: 11 11 5 11 11
- Infraorwell[22]: 1 4 1 4 1 1 4 1 4 1 1 4 1 4 1 4 1 1 4 1 4 1
- Kleiboh[5]: 12 12 12 12 1
- Kleiboh[13]: 1 10 1 1 10 1 1 1 10 1 1 10 1
- Magus[7]: 1 15 1 15 1 15 1 (vaguely augmented-like)
- Passion[12]: 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 4 4 4 4 4 (like 12edo)
- Passion[23]: 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1
- Sevond[21]/Seville[21]: 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1 1 5 1
- Superpyth[5]: 11 9 9 11 9 (in between minor pentatonic and equipentatonic)
- Superpyth[7]: 9 2 9 9 9 2 9 (Dorian mode; rotate for other modes)
- Superpyth[12]: 2 7 2 7 2 2 7 2 7 2 7 2 (same melodic shape as 12edo but much more xenharmonic harmonies)
- Superpyth[27]: 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 2 2
Other scales
- The 6ed7/3+7edo scale (non-octave-repeating)
Instruments
Lumatone
Skip fretting
Skip fretting system 49 3 7 is a skip fretting system for 49edo. All examples are for 5-string bass.
- Harmonics
1/1: string 2 open
2/1: not easily accessible
3/2: string 4 fret 5 and string 1 fret 12
5/4: string 3 fret 3
7/4: string 3 fret 11
11/8: string 3 fret 5
Music
Modern renderings
- Boys Don't Cry (1979) – Lumatone cover by YoVariable (2025)
21st century
- Deltarune – Man (cover) (2023)
- microtonal improv in 49edo (2024)
- weathergirl - FLAVOR FOLEY (microtonal cover in 49edo) (2025)
- I'm Your Captain Now (The Ancients) - The Recovery System (microtonal cover in 49edo) (2026)
- 49edo improv (2026)
- 49edo riff (2026)
- 49edo groove (2026)
- 49edo prelude (2026)
- Wrong Generation (2022 demo version)

































