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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">**32/27**
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294.135 cents
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The Pythagorean minor third of 32/27 is the interval between [[9_8|9/8]] and [[4_3|4/3]] which arises naturally in 3-limit just intonation. It is 352/351 sharp of [[13_11|13/11]], and tempering 352/351 out equates it with 13/11 and leads to [[minthmic chords]].</pre></div>
The '''Pythagorean minor third''' of '''32/27''' is the interval between [[9/8]] and [[4/3]] which arises naturally in [[3-limit]] [[just intonation]].  Compared to the more typical [[6/5]]- with which it is conflated in [[meantone]]- this interval is more dissonant, with a [[harmonic entropy]] level roughly on par with that of 9/8.
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It is 352/351 sharp of [[13/11]], and tempering 352/351 out equates it with 13/11 and leads to [[minthmic chords]].
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== Temperaments ==
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32/27 is treated as a comma in edos 3 & 6, where the best approximation of a perfect 5th is the 800 cent interval that wraps around to the octave again after only three iterations, producing [[alteraugment]]. Temperaments it can be interpreted as if used as a generator include [[Kleismic_family#Kleiboh|Kleiboh]] or [[Gariberttet]].
The Pythagorean minor third of 32/27 is the interval between &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/9_8"&gt;9/8&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/4_3"&gt;4/3&lt;/a&gt; which arises naturally in 3-limit just intonation. It is 352/351 sharp of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13_11"&gt;13/11&lt;/a&gt;, and tempering 352/351 out equates it with 13/11 and leads to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/minthmic%20chords"&gt;minthmic chords&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
== Approximation ==
{{Interval edo approximation|32/27}}
== See also ==
* [[27/16]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[81/64]] – its [[fifth complement]]
* [[9/8]] – its [[fourth complement]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Pythagorean tuning]]
 
[[Category:Third]]
[[Category:Minor third]]

Latest revision as of 20:52, 1 June 2026

Interval information
Ratio 32/27
Factorization 25 × 3-3
Monzo [5 -3
Size in cents 294.135¢
Name Pythagorean minor third
Color name w3, wa 3rd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{m3} }[/math]
Special properties reduced,
reduced subharmonic
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 9.75489
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 10
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 19

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The Pythagorean minor third of 32/27 is the interval between 9/8 and 4/3 which arises naturally in 3-limit just intonation. Compared to the more typical 6/5- with which it is conflated in meantone- this interval is more dissonant, with a harmonic entropy level roughly on par with that of 9/8.

It is 352/351 sharp of 13/11, and tempering 352/351 out equates it with 13/11 and leads to minthmic chords.

Temperaments

32/27 is treated as a comma in edos 3 & 6, where the best approximation of a perfect 5th is the 800 cent interval that wraps around to the octave again after only three iterations, producing alteraugment. Temperaments it can be interpreted as if used as a generator include Kleiboh or Gariberttet.

Approximation

Edo approximations for 32/27 (294.13 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
4 1\4 300.00 +5.87 +1.96
8 2\8 300.00 +5.87 +3.91
12 3\12 300.00 +5.87 +5.87
16 4\16 300.00 +5.87 +7.82
20 5\20 300.00 +5.87 +9.78
33 8\33 290.91 -3.23 -8.87
37 9\37 291.89 -2.24 -6.92
41 10\41 292.68 -1.45 -4.96
45 11\45 293.33 -0.80 -3.01
49 12\49 293.88 -0.26 -1.05
53 13\53 294.34 +0.20 +0.90
57 14\57 294.74 +0.60 +2.86
61 15\61 295.08 +0.95 +4.81
65 16\65 295.38 +1.25 +6.77
69 17\69 295.65 +1.52 +8.72

See also