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== Marveltwin and marvel ==
== Marveltwin and marvel ==
The marveltwin comma, [[325/324]], bears a curiously close analogy to the marvel comma, [[225/224]]. 325/324 can be added to the [[11-limit]] version of marvel, which tempers out 225/224 and 385/384, to get [[13-limit]] marvel, aka hecate. But it's also interesting to leave 11 out of it. From 225/224 we get that a 5-limit approximation for 7 is 225/224 * 7 = 225/32. Similarly from 325/324 we get a 5-limit approximation of 13 from 324/325 * 13 = 324/25. If we define the major/minor transformation of the 5-limit as the result of fixing 2 and 3 and replacing 5 by 24/5, then major/minor applied to 225/32 is 162/25, which is (324/25)/2. Similarly, major/minor applied to 324/25 is 225/16 = 2 * (225/32). 225/224 tells us that two 16/15 in a row are an approximate 8/7, and 325/324 tells us two 10/9 in a row are an approximate 16/13. Needless to say, major/minor applied to 16/15 is 10/9, and applied to 10/9 is 16/15.
The marveltwin comma, [[325/324]], bears a curiously close analogy to the marvel comma, [[225/224]]. 325/324 can be added to the [[11-limit]] version of marvel, which tempers out 225/224 and 385/384, to get [[13-limit]] marvel, aka hecate. But it's also interesting to leave 11 out of it. From 225/224 we get that a 5-limit approximation for 7 is 225/224 * 7 = 225/32. Similarly from 325/324 we get a 5-limit approximation of 13 from 324/325 * 13 = 324/25. If we define the major/minor transformation of the 5-limit as the result of fixing 2 and 3 and replacing 5 by 24/5, then major/minor applied to 225/32 is 162/25, which is (324/25)/2. Similarly, major/minor applied to 324/25 is 225/16 = 2 * (225/32). 225/224 tells us that two 16/15 in a row are an approximate 8/7, and 325/324 tells us two 10/9 in a row are an approximate 16/13. Needless to say, major/minor applied to 16/15 is 10/9, and applied to 10/9 is 16/15.
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: 3 pure; 5, 7, 11 and 13 all flat by (325/324)<sup>1/3</sup>, which is 1.778 cents.  
: 3 pure; 5, 7, 11 and 13 all flat by (325/324)<sup>1/3</sup>, which is 1.778 cents.  
: [[eigenmonzo basis|eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis]]: 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5
: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5


[[Complexity spectrum]]: 4/3, 6/5, 10/9, 5/4, 9/8, 8/7, 16/15, 18/13, 13/12, 7/6, 16/13, 7/5, 11/8, 9/7, 12/11, 15/14, 11/10, 11/9, 13/10, 14/13, 15/13, 14/11, 15/11, 13/11
[[Complexity spectrum]]: 4/3, 6/5, 10/9, 5/4, 9/8, 8/7, 16/15, 18/13, 13/12, 7/6, 16/13, 7/5, 11/8, 9/7, 12/11, 15/14, 11/10, 11/9, 13/10, 14/13, 15/13, 14/11, 15/11, 13/11
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[[Minimax tuning]]s:  
[[Minimax tuning]]s:  
* 13-limit eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.7.11/5.13/5
* 13-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.11/5.13/5
* 15-limit eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.7.15/11.15/13
* 15-limit unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.7.15/11.15/13


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 19, 41, 53, 72, 166 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 19, 41, 53, 72, 166 }}
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=== 385/384 ===
=== 385/384 ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13
See [[Keenanismic family #Martwin]].  
 
[[Comma list]]: 325/324, 385/384
 
[[Complexity spectrum]]: 4/3, 6/5, 10/9, 5/4, 9/8, 8/7, 11/8, 7/6, 12/11, 16/15, 18/13, 13/12, 9/7, 7/5, 16/13, 11/9, 11/10, 13/11, 14/13, 15/14, 15/11, 13/10, 15/13, 14/11
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 15, 19, 26, 34, 41, 46, 53, 72, 87, 140, 159, 212, 299 }}
 
[[Badness]]: 2.206 × 10<sup>-6</sup>


=== 364/363 ===
=== 364/363 ===
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== Rank-3 temperaments ==
== Rank-3 temperaments ==
=== Portending ===
Notable rank-3 temperaments of marveltwin include:  
Commas: 325/324, 364/363, 441/440
 
Spectrum: 8/7, 4/3, 11/8, 6/5, 14/11, 7/6, 10/9, 12/11, 5/4, 13/11, 9/8, 7/5, 11/9, 9/7, 18/13, 13/12, 16/15, 11/10, 15/14, 16/13, 14/13, 15/11, 13/10, 15/13
 
Edos: 15, 26, 41, 46, 72, 87, 159
 
10^5 * Badness: 62.715
 
=== Marvel (hecate) ===
Commas: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384


Spectrum: 4/3, 5/4, 16/15, 15/14, 6/5, 9/8, 7/5, 9/7, 7/6, 10/9, 8/7, 18/13, 11/8, 12/11, 13/12, 11/9, 11/10, 15/13, 15/11, 16/13, 13/11, 14/13, 13/10, 14/11
* [[Portent|Portending]] → [[Gamelismic family #Portending|Gamelismic family]]
 
: +385/384, 441/440
Edos: 19, 41, 53, 72, 166
* [[Marvel|Marvel (hecate)]] → [[Marvel family #Hecate|Marvel family]]
 
: +225/224, 385/384
10^5 * Badness: 72.113
* [[Enlil|Enlil a.k.a. sumatra]] → [[Kleismic rank-3 family #Enlil|Kleismic rank-3 family]]
 
: +385/384, 625/624
=== Sumatra ===
Commas: 325/324, 385/384, 625/624
 
Spectrum: 6/5, 18/13, 15/13, 5/4, 4/3, 10/9, 13/12, 13/10, 16/15, 9/8, 8/7, 11/8, 11/10, 7/5, 12/11, 7/6, 16/13, 15/11, 15/14, 11/9, 9/7, 13/11, 14/13, 14/11
 
Edos: 15, 19, 34, 53, 72, 87, 140, 159, 212, 299
 
Optimal patent val: [[299edo|299edo]]
 
10^5 * Badness: 68.005


[[Category:Regular temperament theory]]
[[Category:Regular temperament theory]]
[[Category:Commatic realms]]
[[Category:Commatic realms]]
[[Category:Marveltwin]]
[[Category:Marveltwin]]
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